The Housing Bubble

Hello RealTroll.

Great scandal, though, isn’t it? It’s got everything, sex, money and race.

I guess there’s a wronged wife who got upset because her hubby was thinking with his dong and giving some major gifts to his mistress. Looks like she filed a lawsuit for the return of community property. The mistress sees the meal ticket slipping away and starts recording the conversations. And releasing the recordings. I guess, if she’s gonna go down (pun intended) she’s going to take the husband and wife with her.

She’s doing a pretty good job, but what’s her shelf life after this?

What’s even more delightful is watching Obama get down from his lofty perch and wallow in the mud by weighing in on something that is little more than a cheap sex hustle. Oh, wait….

* Do you take destination vacations at least once a year?

Guilty

* Do any of your extracurricular activities include the following (golf, tennis, skiing/snowboarding, scuba diving, offshore(saltwater) fishing, trap/skeet shooting)?

Guilty

* Do you have enough money in your checking account where you don’t bother to worry about making an incidental purchase at any point during the month or balancing said check book?

Guilty

* Do you have savings outside of your retirement accounts?

Guilty

* Could you afford to pay cash for one or more years of your child’s college education?

Guilty

destination vacations? does sleeping in a tent or in the back of my truck 50+ nights a year count?

no kids.

newest vehicle is 6 years old, oldest is 15 years old.

dine out / take out? prepare 99% of my own meals.

extracurriculars? too many to list.

own zero residences.

balance my checking account at least twice a week, just because i like tracking every penny. and there are plenty of pennies in there.

no lawn. thats’s the landlord’s job, silly!

savings outside of retirement accounts? if bill in los angeles had a son, he would look like me.

child’s college education? if we become married dink’s does paying for our dogs’ obedience school count?

see also the book ‘the millionaire next door’

I like the list and appreciate it, but I think you need to take dining out once a week off the list. People eat out faaaar more often than 30 years ago. You could be going to Chipotle, have 5 grand in checking and 5 grand in savings and pay a gardener 75-100 bucks a month and be considered upper middle class.

Also maybe take out golf, skiing, fishing and tennis, lots do these now also.

+1 Goon!

If you only knew. In 1992 before Mosaic was big (precursor to Netscape, which itself was precursor to Internet Explorer), I was making my own food. But I had house payments. Okay go back 2 years. I was making my own food and renting a 2 bedroom place for $475. Wasn’t paid much but I graduated with MSCS that May (1990).

I had several directions to go. 1) work on a phd, all expenses paid by USN, 2) get out of the federal employment and go private enterprise, maybe consulting, which I knew nothing about and how to get in, or 3) buy a house and stay a feral employee.

I chose the dumbest of them. I chose 3.

I think that there are probably couples with a $400k income who say that they’re upper middle class. Remember the guy who calls himself Overtaxed? It sounded as if he and his wife had a combined income over $300,000 and he didn’t think that he was rich. That’s the sort of person who calls himself upper middle class.

You didn’t answer the question. What proof is there that she’s white?

you didn’t get my answer. she doesn’t need to prove she’s white simply because there’s no advantage to being white. the advantage comes from being cherokee. if she’s going to take advantage of being cherokee, she needs to prove she’s ‘entitled’ to that advantage. again, she doesn’t need to prove she’s white. she needs to prove she’s at least 1/16 cherokee. get it now?

What proof is there that she’s white?

Have you seen a picture of her? She’s white… as for “proof”, given the minority status given those of American Indian heritage, I would argue the proof is needed if you claim privileged minority status as opposed to the “unprivileged majority”.

FWIW, in MA, Native Americans can go to state universities like UMASS tuition free. How’s that for a minority perk? I had to enlist in the military to get anything similar and I had to have the paperwork proving I was a eligible for the GI Bill and tuition waivers… paperwork that showed I was affiliated with the Army. Where is Warren’s paperwork? Where is her proof? She took advantage of the system to advance her career and got called on it. Throw your cards on the table or be called a liar…

What I get is that you’re inventing a new rule that applies to anyone who wants to claim they’re not white, which would presumably apply to everyone that you would consider to be non-white. So we’re talking about a special requirement of everyone in the country who is not white.

How would it work exactly? How would someone go about proving that she’s Indian or black or Hispanic?

Has the cabal forced this injun on the Western Wall junket yet?

What I get is that you’re inventing a new rule that applies to anyone who wants to claim they’re not white, which would presumably apply to everyone that you would consider to be non-white.

then you must know what the ‘new rule’ i’m inventing is. tell it to me.

So we’re talking about a special requirement of everyone in the country who is not white.

you’re unbelievably dense. your stance makes you look ridiculous, not intelligent.

How would it work exactly? How would someone go about proving that she’s Indian or black or Hispanic?

yeah, this is a whole new area. proving things about your heritage.

what’s to stop anyone from claiming anything about themselves for gain, if they don’t have to prove anything? what’s to stop the whole country from claiming they’re 1/16 cherokee?

It’s not really a “stance”. In effect, you’re proposing that non-white people should have to prove that they’re not white. Just as Northeasterner wrote above that he had documents from the government proving that he served in the Army, where can people Indian or black or Hispanic get documents to prove who they are?

what’s to stop anyone from claiming anything about themselves for gain, if they don’t have to prove anything? what’s to stop the whole country from claiming they’re 1/16 cherokee?

You almost have a point here. However, if everyone claimed that they were part Cherokee, then no one would gain from all of those claims.

In effect, you’re proposing that non-white people should have to prove that they’re not white.

i said nothing even close to that. anyone reading this thread can see that.

where can people Indian or black or Hispanic get documents to prove who they are?

yes, birth records are really hard to come by these days.

You almost have a point here.

yeah, right. ‘almost’

However, if everyone claimed that they were part Cherokee, then no one would gain from all of those claims.

false, the gain might be equal, but it is still a gain. if everyone got $100 from the gov. for checking ‘1/16′ cherokee on a special form, then everyone would gain, even though everyone would gain the same.

of course some people wouldn’t do it because it would be dishonest. but that doesn’t stop tonto warren.

Mighty Mike, all they want is to make it seem like Warren only got to her position through affirmative action, and therefore isn’t worthy of being Senator, is unethical, should be removed from office, etc.

all they want is to make it seem like Warren only got to her position through affirmative action

how would anyone know now, since that’s what she did?

and therefore isn’t worthy of being Senator

she’s a corrupt liar, but she’s also incompetent. she’s a disaster on almost every front.

is unethical, should be removed from office, etc.

i don’t dare have such lofty expectations.

You wrote this:

the advantage comes from being cherokee. if she’s going to take advantage of being cherokee, she needs to prove she’s ‘entitled’ to that advantage. again, she doesn’t need to prove she’s white. she needs to prove she’s at least 1/16 cherokee. get it now?

I suppose that it could an unreasonable assumption that you think that all non-white Americans need to prove their non-white ancestry. Maybe you only want people who claim partial Indian ancestry to have to supply that proof, or maybe only Elizabeth Warren.

Then you wrote this:

yes, birth records are really hard to come by these days.

Are there states that issue birth certificates that identify people as being 1/16 Cherokee? I doubt it.

Well this is unfortunate:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/27/us-usa-basketball-clippers-idUSBREA3Q0KX20140427

‘The NAACP civil rights group will not honor Donald Sterling with a lifetime achievement award after the Los Angeles Clippers owner was allegedly caught making racially disparaging comments, the organization’s head said on Sunday.’

‘Sterling was severely criticized after the celebrity news site TMZ.com on Friday posted a 10-minute recording in which a person reported to be the NBA owner tells a woman not to post photographs of herself with black people online and not to bring African-Americans to Clippers games.’

‘The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, the oldest civil rights organization in the United States, had planned to give Sterling a lifetime achievement award at its May 15 banquet.’

“He is not receiving a lifetime achievement award from the NAACP that’s coming up in the next few weeks,” Lorraine Miller, the organization’s interim president and chief executive.’

A lifetime achievement award? Then there’s this:

‘NBA great Michael Jordan said in a statement: “In a league where the majority of players are African-American, we cannot and must not tolerate discrimination at any level,” he said.’

Wait a minute; could he be saying white people can’t play basketball? I’m offended! I demand that there be affirmative action to force racist white team owners to put more white guys in the NBA. At EQUAL pay, too! And I had a Cherokee great-grandmother, so I don’t want to hear any back talk on this.

I suppose that it could an unreasonable assumption that you think that all non-white Americans need to prove their non-white ancestry.

Maybe you only want people who claim partial Indian ancestry to have to supply that proof, or maybe only Elizabeth Warren.

you know better than this smarmy answer too. nowhere did i claim i want ‘only’ pocahontas warren to supply proof. i’ve been saying that ANYONE that gets special perks needs to supply proof. i wasn’t singling out sackageewarren for that.

Are there states that issue birth certificates that identify people as being 1/16 Cherokee?

another red herring. if you get special consideration for being partial any race, you should be required to prove that you qualify. the authority supplying the perks gets to set the requirements. that’s common. that’s the way it’s always been. one would assume that the authority handing out the perks wants those people to get them, so they’d make the requirements easy enough to comply with. if you know you’re 1/16 cherokee you should be able to prove it easy enough, else how would you know in the first place? and if you don’t know, then you probably aren’t, and what would you be looking for?

do you think she should have gotten the perks even if she’s lying?

your false insinuations and innuendos aren’t going to derail me from pointing out what a despicable liar she is. and as matter of fact, the more you protest, the more solid you make my case.

There are countless examples of highly qualified people who got fired after it was found out that they lied on their resume years prior.

It’s not about their ability to do the job. It’s about their integrity.

second paragraph is mine and should have been non-bolded.

And I had a Cherokee great-grandmother, so I don’t want to hear any back talk on this.

well that’s nothing! i’ve got high cheekbones and that proves i’m cherokee. where are my perks?

you know better than this smarmy answer too. nowhere did i claim i want ‘only’ pocahontas warren to supply proof. i’ve been saying that ANYONE that gets special perks needs to supply proof. i wasn’t singling out sackageewarren for that.

Up above, I wrote this:

In effect, you’re proposing that non-white people should have to prove that they’re not white.

And you wrote this:

i said nothing even close to that. anyone reading this thread can see that.

So who knew what you were getting at?

Now, you write this:

if you get special consideration for being partial any race, you should be required to prove that you qualify. the authority supplying the perks gets to set the requirements. that’s common. that’s the way it’s always been. one would assume that the authority handing out the perks wants those people to get them, so they’d make the requirements easy enough to comply with.

Apparrently, none of the universities that were told about her alleged required any documentation, so she must not have done anything wrong.

‘NBA great Michael Jordan said in a statement: “In a league where the majority of players are African-American, we cannot and must not tolerate discrimination at any level,” he said.’

Wait a minute; could he be saying white people can’t play basketball?

No, he didn’t say that, so don’t worry.

No, he didn’t say that, so don’t worry.

didn’t he just say he didn’t want to hear any backtalk? (sorry, this is just the liberal way)

Actually, it’s more often the conservative way and sometimes it’s a good thing.

I love this:

“if you get special consideration for being partial any race, you should be required to prove that you qualify. the authority supplying the perks gets to set the requirements.”

Your forebearers get figuratively and literally raped at the hands of the invaders, then you have to have to comply with some bastard named tj’s rules 5 generations later because he says so!

What if the Cherokees adopt the people of this land as their own TJ? Fellow man, sharing the earth and all that.

In effect, you’re proposing that non-white people should have to prove that they’re not white.

first, no i did not say anything of the kind. your “in effect” is just more tripe from you. you don’t reason very well and no one should give your “in effect” any value. if you think otherwise, quit saying “in effect” and say what the “effect” is that you’re claiming. i’ll you right now that it’s as bogus as you are.

So who knew what you were getting at?</b?

Apparrently, none of the universities that were told about her alleged required any documentation, so she must not have done anything wrong.

she lied then and she’s lying now. that may be nothing to you, but most people think there should be consequences for lying. but i understand.. “what difference does it make NOW” right?

Actually, it’s more often the conservative way

no, actually it’s not.

remember.. according to liberals AGW is settled science.

by the way, did you know that we have about 50 times more polar bears now than in 1950? did you also know that polar bears right now are in danger of dying because of the arctic’s unusual gain in polar ice?

‘then you have to have to comply with some bastard named tj’s rules 5 generations later’

I lived in Alaska one summer. I learned all sorts of things. One was that the natives get a share of the states oil funds. But they have to prove they are Alaskan natives. It’s the tribes that insist on this so no phoney’s get in on the money.

You were the one who wrote this:

the authority supplying the perks gets to set the requirements.

Think about it. Those universities who employed her were probably quite pleased to say that they had hired an Indian law professor. Their attitude may be, “Your family told you you part Indian? That’s good enough for us?”

Your forebearers get figuratively and literally raped at the hands of the invaders, then you have to have to comply with some bastard named tj’s rules 5 generations later because he says so!

ah yes, another reparations moron that thinks someone should pay for what their ancestors have done.

someone’s gonna rule for any number of generations. and the loser always gets ruled. but then you get some holier than thou creep that thinks he has a higher morality than anyone else.

how does feel to be up there so morally superior to everyone else? why don’t you be the first to start giving some of your possessions away to those you feel deserve it?

What if the Cherokees adopt the people of this land as their own TJ?

they’ll have to conquer it first. but you’re too dumb to see that that’s the way it works.

Those universities who employed her were probably quite pleased to say that they had hired an Indian law professor.

those universities weren’t using their own funds. they were using tax dollars that they were only too happy to give away to keep getting their overpriced student loans coming in.

Their attitude may be, “Your family told you you part Indian? That’s good enough for us?

of course that’s their attitude. why wouldn’t it be when they get to profit from that attitude?

And while the bickering continues, Wall Street owns both parties:

‘Wall Street Republicans’ dark secret: Hillary Clinton 2016′

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/04/wall-street-republicans-hillary-clinton-2016-106070.html

And while the bickering continues, Wall Street owns both parties:

Yes, that was the point that I made above. Wall Street prefers that its ownership of the two parties is not discussed. They would the prefer that the mob devote their time debating things like affirmative action or the so-called social issues and leave the running of the country to the elites.

Holy shiznit. I can’t believe the conversation that this post provoked.

But I guess that’s what the Media/Academia Race Hustlers Industrial Complex™ wants, right?

Then why bother defending Warren? Her book says stuff that she should have been calling press conferences about. Instead, she puts out a book, years later. She obviously didn’t want to rock the boat. No matter what you think of her, or what she thinks of herself, a person like that couldn’t reform a Girl Scout troop.

I don’t know about that. tj might say that the hustlers prefer that it is not debated.

I wasn’t defending everything that she has ever done in her life. I was just saying that the attacks on her regarding her claims of Indian ancestry don’t make a lot of sense.

There are a large number of stories about politicians and their histories or personalities that serve as distractions. For example, we’ve heard about how people like Dan Quayle, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush found ways to avoid serving in Vietnam while John McCain and John Kerry went and risked their lives over there. Those stories are really not important.

One could say the same thing about Richard Nixon and Watergate. It’s not that important. His decision to bomb Cambodia resulted in the deaths of many innocent civilians. On the other hand, he was the president who signed the law that established the EPA, which has probably saved many lives. Compared to things such as that, Watergate was just another distraction.

You need to go back to the first post. It is important and you were absolutely defending her. It…

“is important because it shows what you have done when you thought no one was watching. It is important because it shows what you have done when you thought you wouldn’t get caught. And it is important because it reveals you still think you can get away with it now that you have been caught.”

This is your great savior and reformer. You defend it and then later pretend to be some nonpartisan against all politicians type.

I said above at 2014-04-28 18:03:35 that I was only defending her on the Indian ancestry issue, not on everything that she’s ever done in her life.

Also, I never pretend to be some nonpartisan who is against all politicians. In fact it was just yesterday or Saturday that I was criticizing the “against all politicians” attitude.

‘I was just saying that the attacks on her regarding her claims of Indian ancestry don’t make a lot of sense’

I think you are missing the bigger issue here. When Geithner gave her the foam bit, she should have grabbed Barofsky by the arm and forced her way onto every network channel in the country to expose it. Doing so may have saved hundreds of thousands of families, maybe a million, from being used by Wall Street to save their asses. And it might have derailed this insane government bubble re-flation, which will probably cause even more untold misery. It was a historic opportunity and she blew it.

No, that’s my point exactly. Criticism of her job performance is something worth talking about. The Cherokee stuff is a distraction.

The Cherokee stuff is a distraction.

yes, you hate it when a lying liberal gets exposed. let’s not talk about her honesty and integrity.

you don’t care that she advanced her career though lies, do you? you’d like to talk about job performance. that’s much less hard hitting, no?

you can confuse people about her job performance like liberals always try (and mostly succeed) in confusing economics.

pure nonsense like her “you didn’t build that”.

it’s nonsense but it can be argued back and forth for a long time. and of course then people aren’t talking about what a lying, corrupt politician she is.

and what is the ‘cherokee stuff’ distracting FROM? what’s being done? nothing. that’s what liberals want to be done about their corrupt lying politicians. the only thing that matters to them is they parrot the liberal line.

“yes, you hate it when a lying liberal gets exposed.”

And they go frantic when they’re fished out. I must say you and a few others have done a great job at exposing the lying basturds.

Lola…. liberace…. you fraudsters.

And they go frantic when they’re fished out.

yes, and the only way we’re ever rid of a democrat politician, is either they die or expose their genitals in an email.

No, you’re still missing my point. In fact, I specifically gave the example of Nixon. People and their personalities and their ethics are simply not that important. It’s not how politics works.

Wait a minute; could he be saying white people can’t play basketball? I’m offended! I demand that there be affirmative action to force racist white team owners to put more white guys in the NBA. At EQUAL pay, too! And I had a Cherokee great-grandmother, so I don’t want to hear any back talk on this.

I love it. And if they end age discrimination in the NBA as well, then maybe I have a shot at a position.

I’m going to be a millionaire! Thank you, affirmative action!!

People and their personalities and their ethics are simply not that important.

so you think people that lie and steal and commit various other unethical immoral acts can still be good leaders. unbelievable. the lib education system has truly worked wonders with you. of course liberals need that type of thinking or hardly any of their ilk could get elected. anything goes with you. it has to. i can’t tell if you actually believe what you spew or not. my guess is that you really believe it.

this country really needs help as long as people like you are out voting.

what it all boils down to in this thread is that (for you) it’s ok for tonto warren to lie to get what she wants. ‘ethics’ aren’t important. great argument. i hope the libs make that one vocal. it sure speaks volumes about you.

Comment by LolaLOL
Your kids are going to see you at the nursing home once a month? Sad. Just sad.

You better hope your kids show up more than once a month because the nursing home attendants know who’s cared about (and watching them) and who isn’t.

“You” means everybody not just you LolaLOL, sounded harsh.

Been around this (rehab, not NH) the last couple of years. I have my mother at home, and will until it’s impossible. Seen enough of these places to say if I had my choice of how I’ll die, I’d like to be hit by a bus (rather than go to a nursing home.)

Explain the 10% year/year inventory drop in the Sacramento area? Fuzzy math?

Your quoting a source that doesn’t disclose their data source.