July 29, 2014

A Dark Cloud In The Distance

The Gainesville Sun reports from Florida. “Jennifer Beguiristain plans to be in Gainesville at least three more years to work on a master’s degree in speech pathology, so she traded in her $700-a-month apartment for a $988 mortgage payment and arranged to rent out two rooms for $400 each. The 27-year-old recently closed on the four-bedroom, 1,500-square-foot house in northwestern Gainesville for $139,000 with a 5 percent down payment. ‘I just feel like, renting, you’re throwing money out of the window,’ she said.”

“If she gets a job out of the area when she is done with graduate school, Beguiristain likes her chances to make money on the property. ‘The good thing about a house in that area is I do have the option to sell or rent it since it’s near Santa Fe (College) and the values are going up, so I think it was a very good investment,’ she said.”

“Matt and Hallie Johnson recently bought a three-bedroom, 1.5-bath home in Micanopy on a USDA loan with 100 percent financing after Hallie was accepted into the UF veterinary school. The Johnsons were paying $700 a month for a condo and wanted instead to put that money toward a $810 mortgage payment. ‘When you’re paying rent, you don’t have to worry about lawns, so we really didn’t have any financial burden in terms of taking care of the place, but I knew that home equity and being able to purchase our first home would allow us to put that monthly income of rent toward something that might actually make us some money in the future,’ Matt Johnson said.”

The Sun Sentinel. “More than 4,000 coastal condo units are coming to Broward County as developers trying to capitalize on an upbeat housing market. The number of units completed, under construction or planned has nearly doubled over the past year, according to the database created by the CondoVultures consulting firm in Bal Harbour. Some analysts wonder whether that’s even enough to satisfy demand from wealthy empty-nesters, retirees from the Northeast and opportunistic foreign investors.”

“‘People don’t want the hassle of mowing the lawn or maintaining the roof,’ said Dennis Eisinger, co-developer of a handful of boutique condos in Las Olas Isles, east of downtown. ‘And right now it makes much more sense to buy than rent.’”

“To be sure, Broward is no Miami-Dade County, where more than 27,000 units are completed or in the pipeline, prompting some market watchers to wonder whether Miami-Dade is destined for another downturn like the one that devastated the area from 2006 through 2011.”

The News Press. “Two of Southwest Florida’s biggest builders say condo skyscrapers could rise again here as the economy improves and inventory tightens. But it’s not clear that potential buyers are ready to shell out for the high life in Southwest Florida at the prices they’d have to pay, some say. ‘The problem is the new condos being built in Florida have primarily been contracted by high-end investors, who are predominantly interested in south Florida although there are some in Sarasota and Orlando,’ said Jack McCabe, a Deerfield Beach-based real estate consultant. ‘One of the worries I’ve heard is that the target pool of potential buyers is really retiring baby boomers,’ he said. ‘That west coast area between Fort Myers and Port Charlotte doesn’t have the attraction for major builders.’”

“The towers in downtown Fort Myers were conceived mainly during the last days of the real estate frenzy that gripped Lee County in 2004 and 2005. Some never got off the ground when the market crashed in early 2006, and even builders who managed to complete a project often were deserted by buyers who walked away from their deposits as prices plunged. Where demand is strong, builders are putting up a lot of towers, McCabe said, noting that statewide there are 227 new condo projects with almost 40,000 units announced or under construction. Most of those are in south Florida, he said.”

“As the towers return, the question arises whether coming years will see a repeat of the first decade of the century, when a frenzy of high-rise activity led to a crash in 2006. ‘I definitely think it’s going to happen in south Florida, maybe in Sarasota,’ McCabe said. ‘The people here can’t afford them. Builders are relying on out-of-state and out-of-country buyers.’”

The Orlando Sentinel. “The once-sizzling home-sales market has cooled off this summer in the Orlando area as sellers face increasing competition and buyers no longer have to wait in line with investors to buy houses. The number of listings has ballooned. In June 2013, about 7,600 houses were listed in the core Orlando market, which primarily covers Orange and Seminole counties. It’s still considered a seller’s market, but last month the area had more than 11,500 listings, according to the Orlando Regional Realtor Association.”

“One shift that has just started in Orlando could help determine future prices: Investment groups are bundling the single-family homes they own and trying to sell them in bulk. At least some of those groups are trying to sell to other real-estate companies that want homes for rental income. Last week, for example, a Naples-based group offered a portfolio of 43 houses in Orlando, Deltona, DeLand, Daytona Beach, Mount Dora, Sanford and Apopka for a total price of $3.1 million.”

“The prospect of investors selling off properties and lenders auctioning off their foreclosures could further increase the supply of home listings and reduce prices. ‘When there’s too much inventory on the market, there’s a dark cloud in the distance,’ said Orlando resident Justin Stamper, who has bought and sold about 90 foreclosed homes since the recession for Investment Homes Direct. ‘If the [investor groups] do unload their inventory, prices are going to go down. If they don’t, then prices will rise steadily.’”

The Palm Beach Post. “Aging foreclosures continue to linger in Florida’s court system with 33 percent of Palm Beach County’s backlogged cases at least two years old. According to new data from the Florida State Courts Administrator, the 15th circuit has 15,195 foreclosure cases pending, with 5,005 topping the 730-day mark. Statewide, 55,798 foreclosures are two years old or older. The total number of pending cases statewide is 185,823.”

“While new foreclosure files have fallen to levels more common pre-real estate crash, some foreclosure defense attorneys wonder whether there won’t be an uptick soon. Wellington attorney Malcolm Harrison said banks are struggling to adjust to new regulations issued by the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. ‘I have met with clients who have not made payments in over two years and who still have not received foreclosure papers,’ Harrison said. ‘The cases will eventually be opened against them but only when the old cases are resolved and the banks know how to comply with the new regulations.’”




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Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-07-29 04:00:25

“If she gets a job out of the area when she is done with graduate school, Beguiristain likes her chances to make money on the property. ‘The good thing about a house in that area is I do have the option to sell or rent it since it’s near Santa Fe (College) and the values are going up, so I think it was a very good investment,’ she said.”

Shoe-shine girl moment:

Savvy 27-year-old speech pathology graduate student assures the journalist who interviewed her that she is certain to make money on her real estate investment, because the values are gonna go up for sure…

Comment by Jingle Male
2014-07-29 07:13:31

She was paying $700/mon in rent.

Now she is a landlord with $988/mortgage willing to rent out two rooms for $400 each. So her monthly housing cost just dropped to $188/mon and she pays down principal about $280/mon. Even with vacancy and maintenance, it sounds like she just improved her cash flow in a meaningful way.

Cash flow is king. Pretty savvy move.

Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-07-29 07:16:15

Only using Liars Math which you seem quite familiar with J._Fraud.

The reality is she’s negative every single month.

 
Comment by Ben Jones
2014-07-29 07:16:43

The bonus is she gets to live with her tenants.

I could get 4 houses for that much money.

Comment by pazuzu
2014-07-29 17:32:04

“The bonus is she gets to live with her tenants.”

Great to have such easy access to your landlord when things need a fixin’. She’s got nowhere to run to.

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Comment by Ben Jones
2014-07-29 07:46:45

‘Pretty savvy move.’

Now that I think about it, I’m glad you chimed in on this, because you are always going on about “I used to post here in the way back and blah”. This is the exact same stuff. 27 years old, probably doesn’t have a job, getting low down, government backed loan to gamble. And here you sit on the front row cheering for it.

‘Click’

Comment by bink
2014-07-29 08:06:45

That’s a good point. Who gave her a loan?

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Comment by Jingle Male
2014-07-30 05:33:53

Ben, it is NOT the exact same stuff. She did not buy a house for $500,000 using a sub prime loan with payments she cannot afford.

She bought a house where the payment is roughly equivalent to her existing rent. Her plan will lower her net rent to $188/month and actually provide $250/mon in principal reduction.

This is much different from the past.

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Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-07-31 18:17:45

No J._Fraud. Her Monthly expenses rose due to depreciation.

Get your thinking straight and get honest.

 
 
 
 
Comment by snake charmer
2014-07-29 08:17:36

Gainesville as a whole is benefitting from the “meds and eds” economic development strategy, which, while presently effective, is getting a little long in the tooth. And where did this young woman come up with the money for this? Parents? Is she already indebted with respect to her education? With this mortgage added to student loans, she might be $250,000 in debt by the time she gets her masters degree. Score one for Mr. Banker.

I also agree that renting out space to students is going to be a lot more of a headache than she ever imagined.

Comment by Ben Jones
2014-07-29 09:05:48

‘benefitting from the “meds and eds”

‘The U.S. Treasury, which finances more than 90 percent of new student loans, is exploring ways to make repayment more affordable as defaults by almost 7 million Americans and other strapped borrowers restrain economic growth…as higher-education debt swells to a record $1.2 trillion’

‘Among the options under consideration is boosting participation in underused Education Department programs that reduce monthly payments by tying them to a percentage of income for those who struggle, while extending the term of the loan.’

‘the Treasury finances $100 billion of new student loans every year’

‘Critics such as Richard Vedder, director of the Washington-based Center for College Affordability and Productivity, a nonprofit research group, say the administration’s efforts fail to address the core issue: education costs increasing faster than inflation and income.’

‘The income-based repayment programs don’t encourage people to seek higher-paying jobs or major in the fields that lead to better salaries, Vedder said. The administration’s measures will alleviate “some of the problems that currently exist with the system, but will actually worsen things in the long run.”

‘The issue has wider consequences for the economy. Students who default suffer damage to their credit records, making it harder for them to borrow for homes and cars in the future. That weighs on growth.’

So the hamsters are getting bogged down enough to ‘weigh on growth’? Gosh we can’t have these people stop spending. Let’s get them to use student loans to pay mortgages in the hopes that Janet Yellens printing press will, oh never mind.

It does make you wonder though. Like, how can a house that cost $35,000 to build 40 years ago now cost $150,000? Or how can sitting in a room, that was paid off long ago, listening to one person talk, cost substantially more than 20 years ago? Could it be the financing of this stuff that’s making it more expensive? And why don’t the “officials” tackle the root problem instead of encouraging it?

Comment by snake charmer
2014-07-29 11:07:51

It seemed like just the other day when total outstanding student loan debt passed $1 trillion. But yeah, when the problem is phrased as debt defaults rather than people going into debt in the first place, then pretty much no solution is going to be effective.

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Comment by taxpayers
2014-07-29 12:06:52

bama fixed that
get a gov job and be clear in 10 years

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-07-29 04:06:23

“One shift that has just started in Orlando could help determine future prices: Investment groups are bundling the single-family homes they own and trying to sell them in bulk. At least some of those groups are trying to sell to other real-estate companies that want homes for rental income. Last week, for example, a Naples-based group offered a portfolio of 43 houses in Orlando, Deltona, DeLand, Daytona Beach, Mount Dora, Sanford and Apopka for a total price of $3.1 million.”

Given that the investors bought the single-family homes to generate rental income to begin with, why would they want to sell in bulk now if the homes were penciling out as rentals?

It sounds to me like this game of musical chairs may be winding down. Who will get caught out of his chair when the music stops playing remains to be determined.

Comment by taxpayers
2014-07-29 04:14:00

I thought inWesters were dumping as fast as the can

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-07-29 04:49:47

Why would investors who bought properties to rent them out be desperately trying to offload now, just as the rental income is beginning to justify purchase costs?

 
 
 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-07-29 04:10:24

‘When there’s too much inventory on the market, there’s a dark cloud in the distance,…’

Nice metaphor!

 
Comment by Michael Viking
2014-07-29 06:55:54

four-bedroom, 1,500-square-foot house in northwestern Gainesville for $139,000

There’s a nondescript 1500-square-foot house for sale in my nabe for $297,000. I consider it a wishing price, but maybe somebody with less brain cells than cash will buy it courtesy of our Mr. Banker.

One thing is happening here that I haven’t seen in a long time: the sheets in the flyer box on the for sale signs aren’t disappearing. Either all of a sudden Realtors (TM!) are busy keeping them stuffed, or nobody’s grabbing them. I’m guessing the latter.

Comment by Jingle Male
2014-07-29 07:15:15

The flyer box index! That’s a new one. I like it!

 
 
Comment by ocsandrenter
2014-07-29 07:35:18

“…in Micanopy on a USDA loan with 100 percent financing after Hallie was accepted into the UF veterinary school.” “…but I knew that home equity…”
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These 2 ding dongs can’t even save up for a 3.5% FHA downpayment, check; underwater by at least the 6% selling commission out the gate, check; and they already have visions of sugarplums and “equity”? WTF? I wonder how many applicants the UF veterinary school DOESN’T “accept”? Probably hasn’t turned away its first student loan debt slave yet, regardless of intelligence (or lack thereof) or potential ability to succeed and payoff loan to uncle Scam.
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Looking into my crystal ball, I see a student loan serf headed into foreclosure and bankruptcy, and the inevitable future bailout of the USDA accelerating into the present. Neil, please pass the popcorn…

Comment by snake charmer
2014-07-29 08:24:47

And that area is out in the sticks. The 1990s film “Doc Hollywood” was filmed on location in Micanopy. It could make sense if the couple planned to reside there on a permanent basis, and if she intended to found or join a veterinary practice that focused on livestock. But it sounds like they’re speculating.

And the band played on.

 
 
Comment by taxpayers
2014-07-29 12:05:23

1/3 of Americans in debt now
what was that number in the 50’s and 60’s?

 
Comment by Kidbuck
2014-07-29 12:40:30

You will pay for a roof and lawn mowing whether you live in a SFH or a condo. HOA fees take this into consideration.

Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-08-02 15:07:00

You’re dreaming.

 
 
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