Meet the “endies” - urban wage slaves stuck in dead end jobs and barely making ends meet in neo-liberalism’s ecoonomic utopia. Housing, of course, eats of most of their disposable income.
Another failure of Keynesian stimulous voodoo economics as Japan discovers that despite what Paul Krugman says, debt-based “growth” ends badly and you can’t print your way out of an economic blind alley.
Krugman was calling early on for a massive public works program to pump money into the economy, and fix the infrastructure that needs fixing so badly (roads, bridges, sewers, etc.). Rates were low, and still are, so then and now would be the best time to borrow money to fund these projects. But the tea baggers were afraid that a good economy would help Obama (news flash, he won reelection anyway). Now our roads still suck, and we have to rely on the Fed to prop up the economy. Instead of money going into the hands of construction workers and small businesses, it’s going to wall street and and defense contractors. Not all debt is bad when it’s paying for the right things, only when it’s being used to line the pockets of insiders.
Clearly you don’t understand why the Fed was created in 1913 - to faciliate the wholesale theft of wealth from the 99% to the 0.1%. Read “The Creature from Jekyl Island” and do some research on the Fed’s activities since its surreptitious founding and your vague “feeling” that the Fed is a rip-off of the productive might be validated.
“When you give a Congressman a dollar, he’ll take a hundred billion. The initial tax rates of 1% to 7% were rather modest. That did not last long. The top tax rate reached 92% during the 1950s and today rates are still 500% to 1,000% higher than they were in 1913. The government is addicted to tax revenue.”
Grand Illusion - The Federal Reserve
by James Quinn. March 11, 2009
1913 – A Bad Year for America
Karl Marx published his Communist Manifesto in 1848. It included 10 planks. Two of the ten planks were as follows:
A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
Centralization of credit in the hands of the State by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
Rothschild, J.P. Morgan & the Federal Reserve
“Those few who can understand the system (check book money and credit) will either be so interested in its profits, or so dependent on it favors, that there will be little opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear it burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests.” Rothschild’s Bros. of London
A recent article by David Galand from Casey Research pointed out the insidious methods by which the government extracts our money for their self serving schemes:
Accounts Receivable Tax Building Permit Tax
CDL License Tax Cigarette Tax
Corporate Income Tax Dog License Tax
Excise Tax Federal Income Tax
Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA) Fishing License Tax
Food License Tax Fuel Permit Tax
Gasoline Tax Gross Receipts Tax
Hunting License Tax Inheritance Tax
Inventory Tax IRS Interest /IRS Penalties
Liquor Tax Luxury Taxes
Marriage License Tax Medicare Tax
Personal Property Tax Property Tax
Real Estate Tax Service Charge Tax
Social Security Tax Road Usage Tax
Sales Tax Recreational Vehicle Tax
School Tax State Income Tax
State Unemployment Tax (SUTA) Telephone Federal Excise Tax
Utility Taxes Vehicle Sales Tax
Watercraft Registration Tax Well Permit Tax
Telephone State and Local Tax Telephone Usage Charge Tax
Vehicle License Registration Tax Workers Compensation Tax.
Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Tax
Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Taxes
Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax
Telephone Recurring and Non-recurring Charges Tax
After digesting this disgusting list, do you feel under taxed?
Depression, Collapse & Revival
The future is cloudy but the direction is clear. Government will spend trillions of dollars. Congress will increase taxes on the rich and secretly raise taxes on the masses by calling them cap and trade fees. The Federal Reserve will pull out all stops to create inflation. When you owe the rest of the world $11 trillion, inflation makes the debt less burdensome. The dollar will decline versus gold. With the enormous amount of currency creation and spending by the government, the economy will eventually pull out of this depression. The acceleration will take the Federal Reserve by surprise. They will be hesitant to raise interest rates. The inflation genie will get out of the bottle and will not go back. The hyperinflation that takes hold will lead to social unrest, rioting, and a drastic reduction in the American standard of living.
There is no solution that will not be painful to everyone in the United States. The only solution that would put America back on a path of sustainable prosperity would be a gold/precious metals backed currency that would force government and its citizens to live within its means. Congress would need to vote for something that would take away its power. With our current political system, this is impossible. Money is power. This leads to only one conclusion. The existing Ponzi scheme will have to collapse before we can adopt a rational financial system for America. It may take decades, or it may happen in 2010. No one knows. If the country can be convinced to follow the wisdom of Ron Paul, we still have a chance to avoid this fate.
When the Federal government spends more each year than it collects in tax revenues, it has three choices: It can raise taxes, print money, or borrow money. While these actions may benefit politicians, all three options are bad for average Americans.
What are the chances the Fed will punt on the taper due to incipient signs of economic weakness (esp. housing), thereby spurring a roaring 20’s style stock market rally?
It’s always amusing when the foreign policy of the nation sitting on the world’s largest arsenal of nuclear weapons is determined by people who believe that the earth is 6,000 years old.
In the not-so-distant future, the federal government will roll out its Housing Giveaway Program. Free houses for those on the public dole.
Think I’m kidding? Just who is it that owns/grants the vast majority of mortgages these days? Why not let taxpayers pay for free houses? It’s only fair.
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Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-09-15 08:01:46
“Why not let taxpayers pay for free houses?”
Are you trying to suggest this isn’t already occurring?
Comment by MacBeth
2014-09-15 08:17:02
Overtly, Whac, overtly. As in announcement of federal policy.
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-09-15 08:23:55
Why bother with overt announcements when covert action can accomplish the same objective sans blowback?
WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — Industrial production declined 0.1% in August to mark the first decline since January, and a series of revisions left output in July lower than previously estimated, according to data released Monday. Economists polled by MarketWatch expected a 0.3% gain. The 0.1% drop in output came as manufacturing output fell 0.4%, while mining output gained 0.5% and utilities output rose 1%. Motor vehicle and part output fell 7.6% after a 9% jump in July, and excluding this segment, factory output rose 0.1% in both July and August. Capacity utilization fell to 78.8% from 79.1%, as motor vehicle and part utilization fell back, to 81.4% from 88.2%.
How is the risk profile of your investment portfolio?
I can truthfully report that I persuaded my eighty-something parents to take a few $100Ks out of the Wall Street stock mutual fund casino earlier this year. Better safe than sorry in my book…
WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — Low volatility and compressed risk spreads are signs of high risk-taking, a Bank for International Settlements official said as part of the group’s quarterly review.
The BIS is often referred to as a central bank for central banks, and it’s been warning for years of the dangers of very low interest rates.
The chart above shows the implied volatility of the S&P 500, Euro Stoxx 50, FTSE 100 and Nikkei 225, weighed by market cap.
“A common mistake is to take unusually low volatility and risk spreads as a sign of low risk when, in fact, they are a sign of high risk-taking,” said Claudio Borio, head of the monetary and economic department at the BIS.
“It all looks rather familiar. The dance continues until the music eventually stops. And the longer the music plays and the louder it gets, the more deafening is the silence that follows.”
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The hopeless lemmings that I know personally who bought a house in the last 5 years were at the very bottom rungs of the economic ladder. It was as though the system was reconfigured just for them and they were herded in en mass. And today every one of them is sinking in one way or another. Lost job, can’t afford to fix the smoke belching malfunctioning boiler or leaky roof, borrowing money from anyone to pay the school taxes, borrowing cars because they can’t afford to pay someone to repair theirs.
If anyone suggests that the typical post 2008 house debtor isn’t a sub prime train wreck, they’re lying through their teeth.
• The Fed is not the first to notice that people value the slips of paper called currency.
• It is not the first to think that printing money will increase the prosperity of the society.
• And finally, it is not the first to miss the fact that increasing the money supply without any tangible improvement in the standard of living just makes people lose faith in the currency.
“The government operates as kind of a Robin Hood, taking/stealing from the rich and giving to the poor.”
They take from the middle class to give to the poor. Just ask Hillary who is not “truly well off” because she pays ordinary income.
Hillary Clinton says she’s unlike the ‘truly well off’
By Philip Rucker June 22
Hillary Rodham Clinton defended scrutiny on her and her husband’s personal wealth by contrasting herself in an interview published Sunday with other multimillionaires who are “truly well off.”
The comment immediately drew scorn from Republicans, who have highlighted a series of stumbles the former secretary of state and potential 2016 Democratic presidential candidate has made on her book tour this month when talking about her personal fortune and six-figure speaking fees.
In an interview with Britain’s Guardian newspaper, Clinton was asked whether she could be a credible champion for fighting income inequality in the United States despite her wealth.
“But they don’t see me as part of the problem,” she told the paper, “because we pay ordinary income tax, unlike a lot of people who are truly well off, not to name names; and we’ve done it through dint of hard work.” The Guardian wrote that Clinton let off “another burst of laughter” in answering the question, suggesting that she found the question “painful.”
Clinton and her husband, former president Bill Clinton, have earned well over $100 million giving paid speeches and writing books since leaving the White House in 2001.
Clinton’s quote could be interpreted in multiple ways. Rather than suggesting that she is not “truly well off,” she may be counting herself among the “truly well off” but saying that she, unlike other multimillionaires, pays “ordinary income tax.” A Clinton spokesman did not respond to a request for clarification of her remarks.
At the start of her book tour this month, Clinton sparked a conversation about her wealth by saying in an interview with ABC News that she and her husband were “dead broke” when they left the White House under a mountain of legal debt and “struggled” to buy two homes and pay for their daughter’s college education.
+1 “Corruption in Washington is driven more by extortion than bribery, Mr. Schweizer says. Bills have been introduced, “crises” manufactured primarily to extort contributions.”
David Stockman:
“Obama is on the same slippery slope that Woodrow Wilson stood on when he sent two million American GIs into the senseless slaughterhouse of northern France. It was to vindicate the freedom of Americans to sail into war zones, even on armed belligerent ships, he said.”
“Here’s the thing. Washington either means to eradicate the Islamic State root and branch in a Normandy style invasion and occupation of the Sunni-Euphrates valley or its just inviting vengeance and blowback that will pale into insignificance that which has occurred to date—including that which occurred exactly 13 years ago. Dropping bombs from high altitude aircraft, or launching Tomahawk missiles from distant ships or dispatching drone payloads via video consoles in Nevada may kill a few ISIS warriors and leaders along with thousands of innocent Sunni civilians in the territories they now occupy. But in the end it will amount to jabbing a hornets nest with a short stick.”
I say it’s the latter. We cannot afford the former. And we will suffer greatly like we did in 2001. We will get blowback. The lobbing of a few Tomahawks may kill a few ISIS types but not kill off the anti Americanism that is growing and it only encourages the growth of fundamentalist Muslims.
Jihadi John is a sadistic serial killer. He’s found his calling in the failed-state terrorist space. He enjoys beheading noncombatant hostages on film. Everyone’s got their kink. But, perspective: We have about 15,000 murders a year in this country. Many of them as brutal or more brutal than Jihadi John’s handiwork.
We know what terror groups are capable of. See 9/11. I’d suggest focusing on stopping that threat to the homeland plus the simple goal of doing justice to sadistic serial killers.
Learning the difference between Shia and Sunni would be a start. When I heard Kerry rule out inviting Iran to a summit dealing with ISIS, I thought, ‘These people aren’t serious about dealing with this threat. This smells like another attempt to get our armies ensnared in the Middle East.’
I have no doubt that these three handcuffed men did in fact die with bravery and dignity at the hands of a sadistic masked murderer. I have no doubt that the group that did this would love nothing more to inflict mass casualty attacks on the US.
I do think neutralizing this group is an important goal. I think capturing Jihadi John, wringing him for information, then efficiently dispatching him are useful and worthy courses of action.
But we shouldn’t be hemorrhaging blood and treasure in an attempt to reshape and occupy the Middle East with our armies. “Experience keeps a dear school but fools will learn in no other.” - Ben Franklin. We’ve already attended the school of experience. It would take a very special type of fool to ignore that course.
50% off all orders at Denver area Papa John’s the day after the Broncos win, after this year’s undefeated season, I will weigh 280 pounds. And after next week’s pummeling of the Seattle Fleahawks, I will consume three orders of cheese sticks and three large pepperoni pizzas in a single sitting.
Abreast of the Market Stock-Market Bears Turn Docile, Predict S&P 500 Gains
A Healthier Economy, Solid Corporate Profits and Low Rates Overwhelm Wall Street Pessimists
By Alexandra Scaggs and Steven Russolillo
Sept. 14, 2014 2:08 p.m. ET
The U.S. stock market’s bears have gone into hibernation.
With no end in sight to a market rally now in its fifth year, once-pessimistic Wall Street forecasters are espousing rosier views.
For some investors, the disappearance of negative views is cause for concern. They worry that with bulls so dominant, whenever any shocks do hit, the damage could be much worse than if there were more skeptical investors around.
But a healthier U.S. economy, solid corporate profits and low interest rates have persuaded many bearish analysts that a major pullback for stocks isn’t in the cards at least well into next year.
That is the case even though the Federal Reserve seems set to raise short-term interest rates next year. And, come October, it will have been three years since the S&P 500 last was in a decline of 10% or more. The S&P 500 closed at 1985.54 on Friday, up 7.4% for the year.
To be sure, the former bears are predicting only small gains for the S&P 500 for the remainder of the year, after a rally that has seen the index nearly triple from its financial-crisis lows.
Still, in the past month, three of the last bearish brokerage-firm strategists, who provide market forecasts and recommend strategies to investors, have waved the white flag and ditched their pessimistic predictions.
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You can say that again! I keep selling my biggest gaining stocks. Sold a bunch this morning! My cash balance is piling up I can buy five brand new models of the Toyota car I drive - and mine is a 2003 model. Then of course that does not count my Treasury notes, savings bonds, TIPs, and municipal bonds, but it does count my T-bills.
Do you own any long-term Treasurys? The reason I ask is that I expect these to do very well in the short run during the next 20% stock market correction. This is a contrarian play, as the conventional wisdom says bond yields will go up when the Fed raises rates. More likely scenario: They go up a little, but then drop like a rock during the ensuing stock market correction. (Check out what happened in October 1987 for a historic reference.)
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Comment by cactus
2014-09-15 08:41:35
Bonds go up when market goes down. And the market has been going up for a long time.
all this FED hanky panky will come to no good end I’m Afraid.
borrowing from a no growth future is a desperate move that won’t work.
I think in the end they will default
Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-09-15 08:49:21
All out war will be initiated before treasuries are ever defaulted on.
Comment by azdude
2014-09-15 15:47:51
good evening mr S H Y S T E R
Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-09-15 15:51:22
Data Az_Fraud data. Stick with the data.
Comment by azdude
2014-09-15 17:35:00
no one likes or respects your sh@tty data.
Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-09-15 17:42:42
Write a letter to zillow expressing your enragement Az_Fraud.
A bear has to love a never-ending Treasury bond rally against a backdrop of naysayers whose stopped-clock prediction of higher interest rates never seems to happen.
Credit Markets U.S. Government Bonds Trade Higher Market Is Taking a Pause, Fed Meeting Could Be a ‘Game-Changer,’ Trader Says
By Min Zeng
Updated Sept. 15, 2014 4:03 p.m. ET
U.S. Treasury bonds strengthened Monday following the biggest weekly selloff in a year, though investors and traders remain cautious before the Federal Reserve’s interest rate decision later this week.
In late afternoon trading, the benchmark 10-year note was 7/32 higher, yielding 2.589%. Yields fall as prices rise.
Buyers were drawn by the highest yields in more than two months. Also boosting demand for haven bonds: China’s industrial output growth expanded in August at its lowest level since the 2008 global financial crisis.
“The market is taking a pause,” said Anthony Cronin, a Treasury bond trader at Société Générale. “The Fed meeting could be a game-changer for the Treasury market.”
The 10-year Treasury yield tumbled below 2.4% in August to the lowest level in more than a year as investors sought refuge in relatively safe assets amid rising geopolitical tensions in Ukraine and the Middle East. Falling bond yields in the eurozone, driven by an expansion of the European Central Bank’s easy-money policies, made U.S. bonds more attractive to investors.
But U.S. bond yields have climbed in September as the path of the Fed’s interest rate outlook has taken the center stage. Investors are concerned that the Fed may send a stronger signal about raising its official interest rates when it concludes a two-day policy meeting Wednesday afternoon.
Higher interest rates make newly sold bonds more attractive to buy, causing the value of existing bond prices to fall.
The 10-year yield jumped by 0.15 percentage point last week, the most on a weekly basis since September 2013. Earlier Monday, the yield touched 2.621%, the highest intraday level since July 8.
Debate has grown among Fed officials about the timing on raising short-term interest rates, which have been held near zero since December 2008.
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Me thinks Colorado soon to follow - There is alot of existing inventory on the market - doesn’t seem to be moving - and yet the new stuff - can’t see a sign without “SOLD” on it anywhere - what’s with that?
The doucheballs driving these monstrosities are the most road rage drivers I encounter around town. They can pass me spewing exhaust in their 15 mile per gallon money pits and I just laugh.
Venezuelan women are complaining. While the citizens of the socialist utopia can withstand shortages of food, toilet paper, and now even news paper, in a nation thought to have one of the world’s highest plastic surgery rates, AP reports beauty-obsessed Venezuelans face a scarcity of brand-name breast implants, and women are so desperate that they and their doctors are turning to devices that are the wrong size or made in China, with less rigorous quality standards. No one is giving the frustrated women much sympathy, especially not the government where late President Hugo Chavez called the country’s plastic surgery fixation “monstrous,” and railed against the practice of giving implants to girls on their 15th birthdays. However, many have taken to Twitter under the hashtag “Without Boobs, There’s No Paradise.”
Unseen Toll: Wages of millions seized to pay past debts
by Paul Kiel, ProPublica, and Chris Arnold, NPR
NEW YORK CITY, N.Y.
September 15, 2014 9:37am
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• First-ever tally of how many employees lose up to a quarter of their paychecks over debts
• “It was a roundhouse from the right that just knocks you down and out”
Back in 2009, Kevin Evans was one of millions of Americans blindsided by the recession. His 25-year career selling office furniture collapsed. He shed the nice home he could no longer afford, but not a $7,000 credit card debt.
After years of spotty employment, Mr. Evans, 58, thought he’d finally recovered last year when he found a better-paying, full-time customer service job in Springfield, Mo. But early this year, he opened his paycheck and found a quarter of it missing. His credit card lender, Capital One, had garnished his wages. Twice a month, whether he could afford it or not, 25 percent of his pay — the legal limit — would go to his debt, which had ballooned with interest and fees to over $15,000.
“It was a roundhouse from the right that just knocks you down and out,” Mr. Evans said.
The recession and its aftermath have fueled an explosion of cases like Mr. Evans’. Creditors and collectors have pursued struggling cardholders and other debtors in court, securing judgments that allow them to seize a chunk of even meager earnings. The financial blow can be devastating — more than half of U.S. states allow creditors to take a quarter of after-tax wages. But despite the rise in garnishments, the number of Americans affected has remained unknown.
At the request of ProPublica, ADP, the nation’s largest payroll services provider, undertook a study of 2013 payroll records for 13 million employees. ADP’s report, released today, shows that more than one in 10 employees in the prime working ages of 35 to 44 had their wages garnished in 2013.
Roughly half of these debtors, unsurprisingly, owed child support. But a sizeable number had their earnings docked for consumer debts, such as credit cards, medical bills and student loans.
Extended to the entire population of U.S. employees, ADP’s findings indicate that 4 million workers — about 3 percent of all employees — had wages taken for a consumer debt in 2013.
Carolyn Carter of the National Consumer Law Center called the level of wage garnishment identified by ADP “alarming.” “States and the federal government should look on reforming our wage garnishment laws with some urgency,” she said.
The increase in consumer debt seizures is “a big change,” largely invisible to researchers because of the lack of data, said Michael Collins, faculty director of the Center for Financial Security at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. The potential financial hardship imposed by these seizures and their sheer number should grab the attention of policymakers, he said. “It is something we should care about.”
ADP’s study, the first large-scale look at how many employees are having their wages garnished and why, reveals what has been a hidden burden for working-class families. Wage seizures were most common among middle-aged, blue-collar workers and lower-income employees. Nearly 5 percent of those earning between $25,000 and $40,000 per year had a portion of their wages diverted to pay down consumer debts in 2013, ADP found.
Perhaps due to the struggling economy in the region, the rate was highest in the Midwest. There, over 6 percent of employees earning between $25,000 and $40,000 — one in 16 — had wages seized over consumer debt. Employees in the Northeast had the lowest rate. The statistics were not broken down by race.
Currently, debtors’ fates depend significantly on where they happen to live. State laws vary widely. Four states — Texas, Pennsylvania, North Carolina and South Carolina — largely prohibit wage garnishment stemming from consumer debt. Most states, however, allow creditors to seize a quarter of a debtor’s wages — the highest rate permitted under federal law.
Twice a month, whether he could afford it or not, 25 percent of his pay — the legal limit — would go to his debt, which had ballooned with interest and fees to over $15,000.
It’s unsecured debt. This is what bankruptcy is for, which is a pretty sweet deal - to be able to walk away from debts you’ve incurred (and presumably reaped benefits from)
Too many people have come to expect a lifestyle well beyond their earning capability. The banks deserve losses though since they issue credit cards too easily. The credit system is broken.
Nobody saw this coming. Just like nobody saw winter coming. Some Russian oligarchs in London better get ready to forfeit their mansions once enough Brits are freezing in the dark.
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Mount Vernon, VA Sale Prices Crater 9% YoY As Housing Demand Evaporates
http://www.zillow.com/mount-vernon-va/home-values/
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/what-millennials-want-in-a-home-2014-09-15
Again; “Why buy when I can rent for a fraction of the cost?”
I’m going to start my own blog called the Happy Housing Blog.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/7-things-that-are-wrong-with-your-house-2014-09-08
There have been some fluctuations in the housing market recently, but that doesn’t mean that now isn’t the best time to buy a home. Now always is!
You are the lamest troll ever. Really.
“Not ready to buy, but starting to fantasize”
And what a fantasy it is.
This article is a joke.
Just like the whole generation of millenials is a joke.
From the page you reference: “Mount Vernon home values have gone up 3.8% over the past year[...]”
Does that sound like cratering?
Read the data.
Effort my boy.
Edgewood, WA Sale Prices Plummet 8% YoY As Housing Decline Resumes Nationally
http://www.zillow.com/edgewood-wa/home-values/
From the page you reference: “Edgewood home values have gone up 2.7% over the past year[...]“
Read the data..
I just quoted you the data, from the very page that you linked to.
Please provide a citation for the 8% figure that you quoted, as it does not appear to come from the page that you referenced.
Did you just pull it from thin air?
You need to look at the data on the page.
Meet the “endies” - urban wage slaves stuck in dead end jobs and barely making ends meet in neo-liberalism’s ecoonomic utopia. Housing, of course, eats of most of their disposable income.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/meet-the-endies–city-dwellers-who-are-too-poor-to-have-fun-9732381.html
“…neo-liberalism’s ecoonomic
utopiadistopia.”Fixed it for ya…
China’s slowdown deepens. It seems they can’t print their way to prosperity and faked economic numbers can’t hide the true economic situation.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-09-14/li-s-options-narrow-as-china-growth-slowdown-deepens.html
Paging AB Dan…China’s dropping faster than Bristol Palin’s prom dress.
http://www.businessinsider.com/everything-associated-with-china-is-going-down-2014-9
Also “going down”
Also “going down”
She’s a trooper.
Another failure of Keynesian stimulous voodoo economics as Japan discovers that despite what Paul Krugman says, debt-based “growth” ends badly and you can’t print your way out of an economic blind alley.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-14/why-collapse-abenomics-important-its-large-scale-failure-keynesian-stimulus-real-tim
Krugman was calling early on for a massive public works program to pump money into the economy, and fix the infrastructure that needs fixing so badly (roads, bridges, sewers, etc.). Rates were low, and still are, so then and now would be the best time to borrow money to fund these projects. But the tea baggers were afraid that a good economy would help Obama (news flash, he won reelection anyway). Now our roads still suck, and we have to rely on the Fed to prop up the economy. Instead of money going into the hands of construction workers and small businesses, it’s going to wall street and and defense contractors. Not all debt is bad when it’s paying for the right things, only when it’s being used to line the pockets of insiders.
But the tea baggers were afraid that a good economy would help Obama
Those cussed tea baggers! I keep forgetting what a large majority of senators and congressmen the tea baggers are.
And lining the pockets of wall street and defense contractors is what they do best.
Have you completely lost your ability to recognize sarcasm?
Those “shovel ready” jobs didn’t turn out to be so shovel ready.
why I get the feeling there are a lot of people close to the printing press that are not working thus living off the production of other people?
Is collecting interest work?
Clearly you don’t understand why the Fed was created in 1913 - to faciliate the wholesale theft of wealth from the 99% to the 0.1%. Read “The Creature from Jekyl Island” and do some research on the Fed’s activities since its surreptitious founding and your vague “feeling” that the Fed is a rip-off of the productive might be validated.
Is collecting interest work?
It’s God’s work, at least according to Mr. Banker
“When you give a Congressman a dollar, he’ll take a hundred billion. The initial tax rates of 1% to 7% were rather modest. That did not last long. The top tax rate reached 92% during the 1950s and today rates are still 500% to 1,000% higher than they were in 1913. The government is addicted to tax revenue.”
Grand Illusion - The Federal Reserve
by James Quinn. March 11, 2009
1913 – A Bad Year for America
Karl Marx published his Communist Manifesto in 1848. It included 10 planks. Two of the ten planks were as follows:
A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
Centralization of credit in the hands of the State by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
Rothschild, J.P. Morgan & the Federal Reserve
“Those few who can understand the system (check book money and credit) will either be so interested in its profits, or so dependent on it favors, that there will be little opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear it burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests.” Rothschild’s Bros. of London
A recent article by David Galand from Casey Research pointed out the insidious methods by which the government extracts our money for their self serving schemes:
Accounts Receivable Tax Building Permit Tax
CDL License Tax Cigarette Tax
Corporate Income Tax Dog License Tax
Excise Tax Federal Income Tax
Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA) Fishing License Tax
Food License Tax Fuel Permit Tax
Gasoline Tax Gross Receipts Tax
Hunting License Tax Inheritance Tax
Inventory Tax IRS Interest /IRS Penalties
Liquor Tax Luxury Taxes
Marriage License Tax Medicare Tax
Personal Property Tax Property Tax
Real Estate Tax Service Charge Tax
Social Security Tax Road Usage Tax
Sales Tax Recreational Vehicle Tax
School Tax State Income Tax
State Unemployment Tax (SUTA) Telephone Federal Excise Tax
Utility Taxes Vehicle Sales Tax
Watercraft Registration Tax Well Permit Tax
Telephone State and Local Tax Telephone Usage Charge Tax
Vehicle License Registration Tax Workers Compensation Tax.
Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Tax
Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Taxes
Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax
Telephone Recurring and Non-recurring Charges Tax
After digesting this disgusting list, do you feel under taxed?
Depression, Collapse & Revival
The future is cloudy but the direction is clear. Government will spend trillions of dollars. Congress will increase taxes on the rich and secretly raise taxes on the masses by calling them cap and trade fees. The Federal Reserve will pull out all stops to create inflation. When you owe the rest of the world $11 trillion, inflation makes the debt less burdensome. The dollar will decline versus gold. With the enormous amount of currency creation and spending by the government, the economy will eventually pull out of this depression. The acceleration will take the Federal Reserve by surprise. They will be hesitant to raise interest rates. The inflation genie will get out of the bottle and will not go back. The hyperinflation that takes hold will lead to social unrest, rioting, and a drastic reduction in the American standard of living.
There is no solution that will not be painful to everyone in the United States. The only solution that would put America back on a path of sustainable prosperity would be a gold/precious metals backed currency that would force government and its citizens to live within its means. Congress would need to vote for something that would take away its power. With our current political system, this is impossible. Money is power. This leads to only one conclusion. The existing Ponzi scheme will have to collapse before we can adopt a rational financial system for America. It may take decades, or it may happen in 2010. No one knows. If the country can be convinced to follow the wisdom of Ron Paul, we still have a chance to avoid this fate.
When the Federal government spends more each year than it collects in tax revenues, it has three choices: It can raise taxes, print money, or borrow money. While these actions may benefit politicians, all three options are bad for average Americans.
http://www.financialsensearchive.com/editorials/quinn/2009/0311.html - 49k -
The hope ‘n change dupes of 2008 and 2012 are lining up to get fleeced again by Hillary. You can’t fix stupid.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-09-14/clinton-hints-at-2016-run-as-super-pac-packs-steak-fry.html
Note that the photo included with the article is from the Aspen Ideas Festival in June 2014.
That tells you who Hillary’s real “base” is, the Davos crowd of 0.01%er pigmen.
And the article includes a quote that Hillary already has such a rich donor base that defeating her in the primaries would be unpossible.
I didn’t know the Hillary Clinton poverty tour was still ongoing.
And the ‘tards shuffle into the sheep pen for another shearing.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/15/us/at-a-steak-fry-in-iowa-the-clintons-sell-their-brand-of-sizzle.html?_r=0
National Public Radio and the New York Times have confirmed the imminent coronation of Empress Hillary.
The Republican primaries and the general election itself are just radio static distracting you from the inevitable.
Which is, of course, the Permanent Democrat Supermajority.
What are the chances the Fed will punt on the taper due to incipient signs of economic weakness (esp. housing), thereby spurring a roaring 20’s style stock market rally?
Did you post this under the wrong thread?
The economy, the Fed, housing, all are irrelevant to the coming Permanent Democrat Supermajority.
Economy good? A revival of the Clinton 1990’s.
Economy bad? Only Hillary can save us.
And remember, real journalists will script the narrative.
Also part of the script:
Home ownership for everyone, especially low income buyers who need affordable financing to qualify them to buy $500,000 starter homes…
The Republican primaries and the general election itself are just radio static distracting you from the inevitable.
Those Republican debates were quite entertaining last time.
I wonder what kind of standup comics the RNC will field for the debates in the runup to the 2016 election?
“quite entertaining”
It’s always amusing when the foreign policy of the nation sitting on the world’s largest arsenal of nuclear weapons is determined by people who believe that the earth is 6,000 years old.
Permanent Stagflationary Depression
there is no ‘pent-up demand’ for $500,000 starter homes, not today, not tomorrow, not ever
http://www.denverpost.com/smart/ci_26523353/millenials-and-home-ownership-5-reasons-theyre-not
“Millenials and 5 reasons they’re not buying”
1) They’re broke
2) They’re broke
3) They’re broke
4) They’re broke
5) They’re broke
Theyre no different than any one else. They ask the simple question; “Why buy when I can rent for a fraction of the cost?”
All is okay.
In the not-so-distant future, the federal government will roll out its Housing Giveaway Program. Free houses for those on the public dole.
Think I’m kidding? Just who is it that owns/grants the vast majority of mortgages these days? Why not let taxpayers pay for free houses? It’s only fair.
“Why not let taxpayers pay for free houses?”
Are you trying to suggest this isn’t already occurring?
Overtly, Whac, overtly. As in announcement of federal policy.
Why bother with overt announcements when covert action can accomplish the same objective sans blowback?
a nation of broke @ss loosers
http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-09-12/america-s-poor-deeper-in-debt-than-ever
How do you vaporize demand and destroy your business forever?
Just raise prices.
Where are the fraudsters to report on their liquidation of their “investment” portfolios?
We know it is happening fraudsters. The numbers have turned against you and the trend is not your friend.
Tell us about the meeting where your boss came in, shut the door, and told everyone about the new plan to exit as quickly as possible.
Rental Watch already said that his employer (an REIT fund) is selling stuff. Or maybe it was Jingle Male. I get them mixed up.
Industrial production drops 0.1% in August for first fall in seven months
Published: Sept 15, 2014 9:17 a.m. ET
By Steve Goldstein
D.C. bureau chief
WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — Industrial production declined 0.1% in August to mark the first decline since January, and a series of revisions left output in July lower than previously estimated, according to data released Monday. Economists polled by MarketWatch expected a 0.3% gain. The 0.1% drop in output came as manufacturing output fell 0.4%, while mining output gained 0.5% and utilities output rose 1%. Motor vehicle and part output fell 7.6% after a 9% jump in July, and excluding this segment, factory output rose 0.1% in both July and August. Capacity utilization fell to 78.8% from 79.1%, as motor vehicle and part utilization fell back, to 81.4% from 88.2%.
How is the risk profile of your investment portfolio?
I can truthfully report that I persuaded my eighty-something parents to take a few $100Ks out of the Wall Street stock mutual fund casino earlier this year. Better safe than sorry in my book…
Low volatility is a sign of high risk-taking, BIS official says
By Steve Goldstein
Published: Sept 15, 2014 8:52 a.m. ET
WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — Low volatility and compressed risk spreads are signs of high risk-taking, a Bank for International Settlements official said as part of the group’s quarterly review.
The BIS is often referred to as a central bank for central banks, and it’s been warning for years of the dangers of very low interest rates.
The chart above shows the implied volatility of the S&P 500, Euro Stoxx 50, FTSE 100 and Nikkei 225, weighed by market cap.
“A common mistake is to take unusually low volatility and risk spreads as a sign of low risk when, in fact, they are a sign of high risk-taking,” said Claudio Borio, head of the monetary and economic department at the BIS.
“It all looks rather familiar. The dance continues until the music eventually stops. And the longer the music plays and the louder it gets, the more deafening is the silence that follows.”
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They will thank you for it.
The hopeless lemmings that I know personally who bought a house in the last 5 years were at the very bottom rungs of the economic ladder. It was as though the system was reconfigured just for them and they were herded in en mass. And today every one of them is sinking in one way or another. Lost job, can’t afford to fix the smoke belching malfunctioning boiler or leaky roof, borrowing money from anyone to pay the school taxes, borrowing cars because they can’t afford to pay someone to repair theirs.
If anyone suggests that the typical post 2008 house debtor isn’t a sub prime train wreck, they’re lying through their teeth.
Just remember: Today’s low-income home buyer is tomorrow’s foreclosure victim and bailout recipient.
• The Fed is not the first to notice that people value the slips of paper called currency.
• It is not the first to think that printing money will increase the prosperity of the society.
• And finally, it is not the first to miss the fact that increasing the money supply without any tangible improvement in the standard of living just makes people lose faith in the currency.
I see a level of stasis in the government:
The government operates as kind of a Robin Hood, taking/stealing from the rich and giving to the poor.
The Fed operates as kind of a reverse Robin Hood, taking/stealing from the poor and middle class and giving to the rich.
“The government operates as kind of a Robin Hood, taking/stealing from the rich and giving to the poor.”
They take from the middle class to give to the poor. Just ask Hillary who is not “truly well off” because she pays ordinary income.
Hillary Clinton says she’s unlike the ‘truly well off’
By Philip Rucker June 22
Hillary Rodham Clinton defended scrutiny on her and her husband’s personal wealth by contrasting herself in an interview published Sunday with other multimillionaires who are “truly well off.”
The comment immediately drew scorn from Republicans, who have highlighted a series of stumbles the former secretary of state and potential 2016 Democratic presidential candidate has made on her book tour this month when talking about her personal fortune and six-figure speaking fees.
In an interview with Britain’s Guardian newspaper, Clinton was asked whether she could be a credible champion for fighting income inequality in the United States despite her wealth.
“But they don’t see me as part of the problem,” she told the paper, “because we pay ordinary income tax, unlike a lot of people who are truly well off, not to name names; and we’ve done it through dint of hard work.” The Guardian wrote that Clinton let off “another burst of laughter” in answering the question, suggesting that she found the question “painful.”
Clinton and her husband, former president Bill Clinton, have earned well over $100 million giving paid speeches and writing books since leaving the White House in 2001.
Clinton’s quote could be interpreted in multiple ways. Rather than suggesting that she is not “truly well off,” she may be counting herself among the “truly well off” but saying that she, unlike other multimillionaires, pays “ordinary income tax.” A Clinton spokesman did not respond to a request for clarification of her remarks.
At the start of her book tour this month, Clinton sparked a conversation about her wealth by saying in an interview with ABC News that she and her husband were “dead broke” when they left the White House under a mountain of legal debt and “struggled” to buy two homes and pay for their daughter’s college education.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…/22/hillary-clinton-says-shes-unlike-the-truly-well-off/ -
As far as…
“The Fed operates as kind of a reverse Robin Hood, taking/stealing from the poor and middle class and giving to the rich.”
Better have some more False Flags to take the Second Amendment away from the poor and middle class before they figure that out.
Hillary is a crony-socialist.
Excusing her own less-than-stellar behavior by pointing the finger of blame and judgment toward others.
Next, it will be the “everyone else does it, so why shouldn’t I,” statement typical of crony-socialists.
Bill and Hillary Clinton are the epitomes of crony capitalism and sleaze.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2014/07/06/crony_capitalism_infects_washington_123219.html
+1 “Corruption in Washington is driven more by extortion than bribery, Mr. Schweizer says. Bills have been introduced, “crises” manufactured primarily to extort contributions.”
The federal government takes less from the rich (and gives them more) than at any time in the history of the United States.
And don’t even start with the whole “there didn’t used to be a federal income tax” bit. There were other types of taxes to make up for it.
David Stockman:
“Obama is on the same slippery slope that Woodrow Wilson stood on when he sent two million American GIs into the senseless slaughterhouse of northern France. It was to vindicate the freedom of Americans to sail into war zones, even on armed belligerent ships, he said.”
http://davidstockmanscontracorner.com/barack-we-hardly-knew-ye/
More:
“Here’s the thing. Washington either means to eradicate the Islamic State root and branch in a Normandy style invasion and occupation of the Sunni-Euphrates valley or its just inviting vengeance and blowback that will pale into insignificance that which has occurred to date—including that which occurred exactly 13 years ago. Dropping bombs from high altitude aircraft, or launching Tomahawk missiles from distant ships or dispatching drone payloads via video consoles in Nevada may kill a few ISIS warriors and leaders along with thousands of innocent Sunni civilians in the territories they now occupy. But in the end it will amount to jabbing a hornets nest with a short stick.”
I say it’s the latter. We cannot afford the former. And we will suffer greatly like we did in 2001. We will get blowback. The lobbing of a few Tomahawks may kill a few ISIS types but not kill off the anti Americanism that is growing and it only encourages the growth of fundamentalist Muslims.
Jihadi John is a sadistic serial killer. He’s found his calling in the failed-state terrorist space. He enjoys beheading noncombatant hostages on film. Everyone’s got their kink. But, perspective: We have about 15,000 murders a year in this country. Many of them as brutal or more brutal than Jihadi John’s handiwork.
We know what terror groups are capable of. See 9/11. I’d suggest focusing on stopping that threat to the homeland plus the simple goal of doing justice to sadistic serial killers.
Learning the difference between Shia and Sunni would be a start. When I heard Kerry rule out inviting Iran to a summit dealing with ISIS, I thought, ‘These people aren’t serious about dealing with this threat. This smells like another attempt to get our armies ensnared in the Middle East.’
I have no doubt that these three handcuffed men did in fact die with bravery and dignity at the hands of a sadistic masked murderer. I have no doubt that the group that did this would love nothing more to inflict mass casualty attacks on the US.
I do think neutralizing this group is an important goal. I think capturing Jihadi John, wringing him for information, then efficiently dispatching him are useful and worthy courses of action.
But we shouldn’t be hemorrhaging blood and treasure in an attempt to reshape and occupy the Middle East with our armies. “Experience keeps a dear school but fools will learn in no other.” - Ben Franklin. We’ve already attended the school of experience. It would take a very special type of fool to ignore that course.
“Jihadi John is a sadistic serial killer.”
Wouldn’t a hefty bounty shut down his act?
Let some Shia shut down his act. It’s a 1400 year old quarrel that we can’t fix.
Tonight I will dine like royalty:
http://www.denverpost.com/broncos
50% off all orders at Denver area Papa John’s the day after the Broncos win, after this year’s undefeated season, I will weigh 280 pounds. And after next week’s pummeling of the Seattle Fleahawks, I will consume three orders of cheese sticks and three large pepperoni pizzas in a single sitting.
Not a peep from Region X, sorry kidz but your teamz are loosers…
Not a peep from Region X, sorry kidz but your teamz are loosers…
Region X checking in; but you must have mistaken me for someone who cares about ConcussionBall.
(I know, I know, I’m off script…)
Have Wall Street stock market bears been added to the list of endangered species?
There has never been a better time to sell.
Abreast of the Market
Stock-Market Bears Turn Docile, Predict S&P 500 Gains
A Healthier Economy, Solid Corporate Profits and Low Rates Overwhelm Wall Street Pessimists
By Alexandra Scaggs and Steven Russolillo
Sept. 14, 2014 2:08 p.m. ET
The U.S. stock market’s bears have gone into hibernation.
With no end in sight to a market rally now in its fifth year, once-pessimistic Wall Street forecasters are espousing rosier views.
For some investors, the disappearance of negative views is cause for concern. They worry that with bulls so dominant, whenever any shocks do hit, the damage could be much worse than if there were more skeptical investors around.
But a healthier U.S. economy, solid corporate profits and low interest rates have persuaded many bearish analysts that a major pullback for stocks isn’t in the cards at least well into next year.
That is the case even though the Federal Reserve seems set to raise short-term interest rates next year. And, come October, it will have been three years since the S&P 500 last was in a decline of 10% or more. The S&P 500 closed at 1985.54 on Friday, up 7.4% for the year.
To be sure, the former bears are predicting only small gains for the S&P 500 for the remainder of the year, after a rally that has seen the index nearly triple from its financial-crisis lows.
Still, in the past month, three of the last bearish brokerage-firm strategists, who provide market forecasts and recommend strategies to investors, have waved the white flag and ditched their pessimistic predictions.
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There has never been a better time to sell.
You can say that again! I keep selling my biggest gaining stocks. Sold a bunch this morning! My cash balance is piling up I can buy five brand new models of the Toyota car I drive - and mine is a 2003 model. Then of course that does not count my Treasury notes, savings bonds, TIPs, and municipal bonds, but it does count my T-bills.
Debt is dumb!
Where is Amy the shill?
Do you own any long-term Treasurys? The reason I ask is that I expect these to do very well in the short run during the next 20% stock market correction. This is a contrarian play, as the conventional wisdom says bond yields will go up when the Fed raises rates. More likely scenario: They go up a little, but then drop like a rock during the ensuing stock market correction. (Check out what happened in October 1987 for a historic reference.)
Bonds go up when market goes down. And the market has been going up for a long time.
all this FED hanky panky will come to no good end I’m Afraid.
borrowing from a no growth future is a desperate move that won’t work.
I think in the end they will default
All out war will be initiated before treasuries are ever defaulted on.
good evening mr S H Y S T E R
Data Az_Fraud data. Stick with the data.
no one likes or respects your sh@tty data.
Write a letter to zillow expressing your enragement Az_Fraud.
A bear has to love a never-ending Treasury bond rally against a backdrop of naysayers whose stopped-clock prediction of higher interest rates never seems to happen.
Credit Markets
U.S. Government Bonds Trade Higher
Market Is Taking a Pause, Fed Meeting Could Be a ‘Game-Changer,’ Trader Says
By Min Zeng
Updated Sept. 15, 2014 4:03 p.m. ET
U.S. Treasury bonds strengthened Monday following the biggest weekly selloff in a year, though investors and traders remain cautious before the Federal Reserve’s interest rate decision later this week.
In late afternoon trading, the benchmark 10-year note was 7/32 higher, yielding 2.589%. Yields fall as prices rise.
Buyers were drawn by the highest yields in more than two months. Also boosting demand for haven bonds: China’s industrial output growth expanded in August at its lowest level since the 2008 global financial crisis.
“The market is taking a pause,” said Anthony Cronin, a Treasury bond trader at Société Générale. “The Fed meeting could be a game-changer for the Treasury market.”
The 10-year Treasury yield tumbled below 2.4% in August to the lowest level in more than a year as investors sought refuge in relatively safe assets amid rising geopolitical tensions in Ukraine and the Middle East. Falling bond yields in the eurozone, driven by an expansion of the European Central Bank’s easy-money policies, made U.S. bonds more attractive to investors.
But U.S. bond yields have climbed in September as the path of the Fed’s interest rate outlook has taken the center stage. Investors are concerned that the Fed may send a stronger signal about raising its official interest rates when it concludes a two-day policy meeting Wednesday afternoon.
Higher interest rates make newly sold bonds more attractive to buy, causing the value of existing bond prices to fall.
The 10-year yield jumped by 0.15 percentage point last week, the most on a weekly basis since September 2013. Earlier Monday, the yield touched 2.621%, the highest intraday level since July 8.
Debate has grown among Fed officials about the timing on raising short-term interest rates, which have been held near zero since December 2008.
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Over heard a local Realtor talking Saturday, hard to make out but I did get “bad nothings selling” “the 800K market really bad”
93021
Me thinks Colorado soon to follow - There is alot of existing inventory on the market - doesn’t seem to be moving - and yet the new stuff - can’t see a sign without “SOLD” on it anywhere - what’s with that?
$60,000 trucks are for debt donkeys
http://www.foxbusiness.com/industries/2014/09/11/pickup-trucks-go-upscale/
Even with a 6 year loan the monthly nut would be over $1000.
For a truck?
The doucheballs driving these monstrosities are the most road rage drivers I encounter around town. They can pass me spewing exhaust in their 15 mile per gallon money pits and I just laugh.
most of the POS will have a recall I bet.
Give me old chevy and I’ll get it fixed.
“$60,000 trucks are for debt donkeys”
Upscale trucks during a depression?
No matter what the outcome of Scotland’s independence vote, the winners will face a deeply polarized Scotland - unsettling for markets and investors.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/scottish-independence/scottish-independence-police-will-be-on-high-alert-on-friday-whatever-the-result-9734233.html
All is well. The banks are passing their stress tests. Just like they did in Greece and Cyprus and Portugual before….
Hey, wait a second.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/morgan-stanley-unveils-results-of-stress-test-2014-09-15?link=MW_home_latest_news
Pop goes the weasel (the first of many).
http://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-is-getting-obliterated-2014-9
What to do if you’re a regulator in a crony-capitalist casino and you see the law being flouted? Make a new rule, of course.
http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=229410
Sh!t just got real in Venezuela (or maybe more surreal). Another socialist paradise running out of other people’s money.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-15/last-straw-venezuela-runs-out-fake-breasts
Venezuelan women are complaining. While the citizens of the socialist utopia can withstand shortages of food, toilet paper, and now even news paper, in a nation thought to have one of the world’s highest plastic surgery rates, AP reports beauty-obsessed Venezuelans face a scarcity of brand-name breast implants, and women are so desperate that they and their doctors are turning to devices that are the wrong size or made in China, with less rigorous quality standards. No one is giving the frustrated women much sympathy, especially not the government where late President Hugo Chavez called the country’s plastic surgery fixation “monstrous,” and railed against the practice of giving implants to girls on their 15th birthdays. However, many have taken to Twitter under the hashtag “Without Boobs, There’s No Paradise.”
Unseen Toll: Wages of millions seized to pay past debts
by Paul Kiel, ProPublica, and Chris Arnold, NPR
NEW YORK CITY, N.Y.
September 15, 2014 9:37am
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• First-ever tally of how many employees lose up to a quarter of their paychecks over debts
• “It was a roundhouse from the right that just knocks you down and out”
Back in 2009, Kevin Evans was one of millions of Americans blindsided by the recession. His 25-year career selling office furniture collapsed. He shed the nice home he could no longer afford, but not a $7,000 credit card debt.
After years of spotty employment, Mr. Evans, 58, thought he’d finally recovered last year when he found a better-paying, full-time customer service job in Springfield, Mo. But early this year, he opened his paycheck and found a quarter of it missing. His credit card lender, Capital One, had garnished his wages. Twice a month, whether he could afford it or not, 25 percent of his pay — the legal limit — would go to his debt, which had ballooned with interest and fees to over $15,000.
“It was a roundhouse from the right that just knocks you down and out,” Mr. Evans said.
The recession and its aftermath have fueled an explosion of cases like Mr. Evans’. Creditors and collectors have pursued struggling cardholders and other debtors in court, securing judgments that allow them to seize a chunk of even meager earnings. The financial blow can be devastating — more than half of U.S. states allow creditors to take a quarter of after-tax wages. But despite the rise in garnishments, the number of Americans affected has remained unknown.
At the request of ProPublica, ADP, the nation’s largest payroll services provider, undertook a study of 2013 payroll records for 13 million employees. ADP’s report, released today, shows that more than one in 10 employees in the prime working ages of 35 to 44 had their wages garnished in 2013.
Roughly half of these debtors, unsurprisingly, owed child support. But a sizeable number had their earnings docked for consumer debts, such as credit cards, medical bills and student loans.
Extended to the entire population of U.S. employees, ADP’s findings indicate that 4 million workers — about 3 percent of all employees — had wages taken for a consumer debt in 2013.
Carolyn Carter of the National Consumer Law Center called the level of wage garnishment identified by ADP “alarming.” “States and the federal government should look on reforming our wage garnishment laws with some urgency,” she said.
The increase in consumer debt seizures is “a big change,” largely invisible to researchers because of the lack of data, said Michael Collins, faculty director of the Center for Financial Security at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. The potential financial hardship imposed by these seizures and their sheer number should grab the attention of policymakers, he said. “It is something we should care about.”
ADP’s study, the first large-scale look at how many employees are having their wages garnished and why, reveals what has been a hidden burden for working-class families. Wage seizures were most common among middle-aged, blue-collar workers and lower-income employees. Nearly 5 percent of those earning between $25,000 and $40,000 per year had a portion of their wages diverted to pay down consumer debts in 2013, ADP found.
Perhaps due to the struggling economy in the region, the rate was highest in the Midwest. There, over 6 percent of employees earning between $25,000 and $40,000 — one in 16 — had wages seized over consumer debt. Employees in the Northeast had the lowest rate. The statistics were not broken down by race.
Currently, debtors’ fates depend significantly on where they happen to live. State laws vary widely. Four states — Texas, Pennsylvania, North Carolina and South Carolina — largely prohibit wage garnishment stemming from consumer debt. Most states, however, allow creditors to seize a quarter of a debtor’s wages — the highest rate permitted under federal law.
http://www.centralvalleybusinesstimes.com/stories/001/?ID=26717
Twice a month, whether he could afford it or not, 25 percent of his pay — the legal limit — would go to his debt, which had ballooned with interest and fees to over $15,000.
It’s unsecured debt. This is what bankruptcy is for, which is a pretty sweet deal - to be able to walk away from debts you’ve incurred (and presumably reaped benefits from)
Too many people have come to expect a lifestyle well beyond their earning capability. The banks deserve losses though since they issue credit cards too easily. The credit system is broken.
Check Your Region
Nobody saw this coming. Just like nobody saw winter coming. Some Russian oligarchs in London better get ready to forfeit their mansions once enough Brits are freezing in the dark.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1106382/Europe-plunged-energy-crisis-Russia-cuts-gas-supply-Ukraine.html
Oh my. More black swans for Fed/central bank asset bubbles.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2756283/Scottish-independence-referendum-House-prices-fall-30-000.html
More “protect and serve,” Democrat public union-style.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/15/new-mexico-sheriff-indicted-as-federal-charges-mount-in-case
Clarence Carter - I’m Qualified
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4qI4_05874
Otis Redding - Hard To Handle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZxN9iQM7OY
Jimi Hendrix - If Six Was Nine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iaJWrLsJlI
‘Cause I got my own world to live through,
And I ain’t gonna copy you…
Feelin’ alright?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIYLZOp_Bzc
Today’s celebrity greedhead price-slashing winner:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2757136/Daryl-Hannah-relists-country-like-Malibu-compound-17-6-acres-land-4-25-million.html
Be it ever so humble there’s no place like Region IV
phony scandals