September 17, 2014

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Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-09-17 01:54:26

Silverdale, WA Sale Prices Plummet 8% YoY On Looming Inventory

http://www.zillow.com/silverdale-wa/home-values/

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Comment by iftheshoefits
2014-09-17 07:32:30

People taking on 30 yr mortgages at 3.5% down in their late 50’s are going to have a bit of a problem with this…

Reverse mortgages - a new way to make it look like you own your home when you really don’t.

 
Comment by phony scandals
2014-09-17 15:08:14

Sandy!

 
 
Comment by Guillotine Renovator
2014-09-17 10:11:12

Your link shows prices UP over 4%!

Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-09-17 10:23:33

Nope. Sale Price down 8% and falling.

Comment by Guillotine Renovator
2014-09-17 12:18:07

No, it doesn’t. When you click on sale price on your link, it show prices UP. At least link to something which supports your claims. C’mon, man, you’re as sloppy as a REALTOR.

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Comment by AmazingRuss
2014-09-17 12:58:01

Down is up. Double plus good!

 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-09-17 13:29:42

Nnnnope.

What is it about falling housing prices that enrages you so?

 
Comment by "Auntie Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2014-09-17 14:04:09

Their spreadsheet doesn’t match their chart.

- Median sale prices is down
- Median per sq ft is down
- “Sold for loss” is up

 
Comment by Guillotine Renovator
2014-09-17 16:18:04

I actually LIKE falling house prices. What I don’t like are lies and misrepresentation.

 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-09-17 16:32:05

Then don’t lie about it.

 
Comment by Guillotine Renovator
2014-09-17 18:38:48

I’ve never lied about anything on this blog. You, on the other hand, lie every day. I think people are tired of it, and you in general. When you resort to the same bogus propaganda that REALTORS use, you’ve lowered yourself to their level. Stop lying, and snap out of your BLIND RAGE.

 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-09-17 19:15:06

Prices are falling. Get over it and get on with your life.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-09-17 01:55:35

Grants Pass, OR Sale Prices Crater 8% YoY As Housing Demand Plunges Nationally

http://www.zillow.com/grants-pass-or/home-values/

 
Comment by real journalists
2014-09-17 03:15:23

realtors are liars

Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-09-17 03:46:25

You can say that again….

 
Comment by Dman
2014-09-17 04:56:04

But 6% of what they say is the truth.

Comment by Shillow
2014-09-17 06:11:09

Inventory is exploding

 
Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2014-09-17 08:20:45

But 6% of what they say is the truth.

LOL… Nice. :-)

Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-09-17 08:22:29

Yet still notorious liars.

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Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-09-17 04:03:11
Comment by azdude
2014-09-17 07:25:59

no one cares

Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-09-17 07:27:14

Data Az_Fraud. Stick with the data

 
 
 
Comment by oxide
2014-09-17 04:39:11

I heard this on the radio this morning and found the article:

“Below are the top-paying majors and the median amounts they earn, according to FiveThirtyEightEconomics:

1.Petroleum engineering - $110,000
2.Mining and mineral engineering - $75,000
3.Metallurgical engineering - $73,000
4.Naval architecture and marine engineering - $70,000
5.Chemical engineering - $65,000
6.Nuclear engineering - $65,000
7.Actuarial science - $62,000
8.Astronomy and astrophysics - $$62,000
9.Mechanical engineering - $60,000
10.Electrical engineering - $60,000

[real] Journalism gets recent grads about $35,000 a year.

Other low-paying majors include zoology at $26,000 and library science at $22,000. ”

(wtop dot com)

Comment by real journalists
2014-09-17 06:22:29

Colorado School of Mines in Golden graduates average some of the highest starting salaries in the country. But there are no womyn students there, because math and science are misogynistic (and probably racis).

 
Comment by Blue Skye
2014-09-17 06:29:44

LOL, it’s good to be number 1! That hasn’t changed in the last four decades.

In the real world, more money is to be made by abandoning the actual work and going into technical sales.

Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2014-09-17 08:39:53

In the real world, more money is to be made by abandoning the actual work and going into technical sales.

My brother took that route, initially boosting his comp by a nice margin; but in the end, he got laid off during the last downturn, and ended up as a civilian employee for the military/gov. His comp has not recovered.

I’ve been glad that I stayed on the technical side instead.

Comment by AmazingRuss
2014-09-17 13:00:18

There is no hell worse than being a civvie working for the military. It’s the dustbin of people that can’t get hired anywhere else.

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Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-09-17 06:45:36

Ceo’s earn $1 million + but there isnt much demand for them nor will the average $35k/year worker become a Ceo or an engineer.

Comment by azdude
2014-09-17 07:27:26

ceos try and boost the stock price anyway so they can get sweet bonus and catch out their stock options at a higher price.

Do you really think they care about the peon shareholder?

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-09-17 07:59:48

CEO get-rich-quick game plan:

Borrow money, buy shares, borrow more money, buy more shares, etc etc etc…

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Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-09-17 13:34:35

Save every dollar and penny you can get your hands on. You’re going to need every last one.

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Comment by rms
2014-09-17 07:14:04

“[real] Journalism gets recent grads about $35,000 a year.”

Journalism 101 - follow the money!

Comment by Shillow
2014-09-17 07:22:33

Drink a Red Bull and pound out some nonsense, that’s journalism today. It’s ancient history anyway what with blogs and all. They are lucky to even make 35K, should be more like 35 cents (which most won’t even pay for a paper today).

Comment by real journalists
2014-09-17 07:29:20

Real journalists aren’t in it for the money. They all have parental trust funds or are married to 0.1%ers anyway. The purpose of real journalism is not to report the “news” but to script a narrative.

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Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2014-09-17 17:39:42

+1. Today’s MSM presstitutes are all about parroting the approved DNC talking points and corporate propaganda. Real news and real truth are considered subversive in those newsrooms. Mustn’t upset the advertisers or oligarchs.

 
 
 
 
Comment by iftheshoefits
2014-09-17 07:35:19

I keep trying to point this out to Amy! Nothing you’ll ever do with a house feels as goog as having a real job.

Comment by iftheshoefits
2014-09-17 07:37:43

OK, I didn’t claim that engineers could spell.

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-09-17 08:01:47

That’s funny! A guy I grew up with is now one of the top engineers at his firm. The thing I recall about his scholastic abilities was that he was great at math but couldn’t spell English to save his life.

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Comment by cactus
2014-09-17 09:58:34

10.Electrical engineering - $60,000

Right out of college with a 4 year only.

 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2014-09-17 13:06:27

Below are the top-paying majors and the median amounts they earn…Petroleum engineering ……Mining and mineral engineering -
…Metallurgical engineering….etc

They might make some money but that list sounds like one seriously boring and tunnel-visioned BBQ party. (A Liberal-Arts party would be more interesting and fun.)

Comment by MightyMike
2014-09-17 15:26:34

I wouldn’t jump to that conclusion. I knew a chemistry major in college who synthesized his own LSD.

 
 
 
Comment by taxpayers
2014-09-17 04:54:19

acording to movoto ft myers is booming- but it ain’t folks
http://www.movoto.com/fort-myers-fl/market-trends/

as I’ve said before movo doesn’t have enough data points to be useful.

Comment by Ben Jones
2014-09-17 06:20:32

‘I’ve said before’

I know. Yet somehow they caught the inventory surge and price drops before everybody. And it’s a crowded field now.

Movoto isn’t very good on small markets. Are any of them? You’ve been told that before too.

Comment by oxide
2014-09-17 12:30:32

What is a “small” market? If a market is defined by commuter time or radius, then the DC area may as well be about 20 separate small markets in which case Movato is no good at all.

Comment by "Auntie Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2014-09-17 15:43:08

Movoto breaks it down by city, so a small market on
Movoto is a small city.

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Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-09-17 15:50:15

The backpedalling on falling prices by any metric is hilarious.

RUN!

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Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-09-17 06:22:39

You just don’t like what the data shows my friend.

Comment by azdude
2014-09-17 07:29:31

doomsday again? Don’t you think they will print a few more trillion before letting sh@t hit the fan?

Currency crisis?

Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-09-17 07:53:12

Dont be silly Az_Fraud. Falling housing prices to dramatically lower and more affordable levels is positively bullish and good for the economy.

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Comment by "Auntie Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2014-09-17 10:42:05

Movoto uses the MLS.

 
 
Comment by oxide
2014-09-17 04:57:56

More on the college majors, and the link.

“Typcial” full-time college grad: 36,000
Miscellaneous engineering technologies: 40,000
Meterology, biology, ecology: 35,000
Psychology (most popular major): 31500
Court reporting, food science, public policy: 50,000
Nurses (not necessarily the major): 48,000
Pre-med (stopping at BS degree): 51,000

And the bottom 10:

164. Comm. Disorders Sciences and Services (health): 28,000
165. Early Childhood Education: 28,000
166. Other Foreign Languages: 27,500
167. Drama and Theater Arts: 27,000
168. Composition and Rhetoric: 27,000
169. Zoology: 26,000
170. Educational Psychology: 25,000
171. Clinical Psychology: 25,000
172. Counseling Psychology: 23,400
173. Library Science: 22,000

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-economic-guide-to-picking-a-college-major/

Comment by Shillow
2014-09-17 06:12:59

What’s five thirty eight have to say about November?

 
Comment by Salinasron
2014-09-17 06:20:58

You need figures for prison guards, CHP, and firemen in the state of CA. Not just base pay but the average with overtime and what their average retirement pays.

Comment by Blue Skye
2014-09-17 06:32:04

If they didn’t go to college, it doesn’t count.

 
Comment by Shillow
2014-09-17 07:25:47

Good luck finding those figures. The unions do a wonderful job hiding them and making statements about the “average” pension beneficiary. But becuase that includes all kinds of outliers to massage the average (like people who were only in it for 5 years but vested and left) that prevent a clear view of what the typical public pension retiree makes.

Comment by cactus
2014-09-17 10:04:11

http://transparentcalifornia.com/

All right here i’ve looked up people I know they are all there and they make good money and really nice retirements.

Highest paid work for the universities .. gee go figure

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Comment by Shillow
2014-09-17 18:42:11

That site doesn’t give aggregates does it, just individuals. Not really transparent.

 
 
 
 
Comment by In Colorado
2014-09-17 08:59:28

173. Library Science: 22,000

If a Library Science major can actually land a job as a librarian, s/he will do better than that (my wife makes $20/hr as a Librarian level 1). I suspect that few do land a librarian job straight out of school and they probably start out working as shelvers and clerks for $8-9/hr at the library, hoping to work their way up to Librarian.

Comment by Army No. Va.
2014-09-17 09:12:38

Google and Amazon pay better than that. But you need the quant or marketing degree too. What’s a librarian in 2030 doing anyway?

Comment by In Colorado
2014-09-17 10:11:27

FWIW, our local library is always busy. It was recently expanded and according to surveys its one of the most appreciated services offered by the city.

You can do a lot more than just check out paper books at the library, that said, many people still do that. Homeschoolers use it a lot. There is a computer lab. There is a 3D printer which you can use if you pay for the consumables (it’s very popular). You can also check out digital books and even borrow a reader if you don’t have one.

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Comment by oxide
2014-09-17 11:21:30

Commie!

 
Comment by In Colorado
2014-09-17 13:11:39

Commie!

Actually, the expansion was paid for via fundraising, ten+ years worth. The city didn’t have to borrow a penny to double the size of the library.

 
 
 
 
Comment by "Auntie Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2014-09-17 10:35:26

“Court reporting, food science, public policy” …

Those are three things that all belong in the same category.

 
 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-09-17 05:09:29

Is global warming finally real, or is this just a record-breaking heat wave?

Time will tell.

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-09-17 05:24:35

Lightning and Flooding to Parts of SoCal; Possible Funnel Cloud Spotted
Posted 3:40 PM, September 16, 2014, by Melissa Pamer, Steve Kuzj, Tracy Bloom and Kacey Montoya, Updated at 12:57am, September 17, 2014
A funnel cloud moved over the Big Bear area about 4:30 p.m. on Sept. 16, 2014. (Credit: Ryan Whitcher)

A staff member described the frightening moments of being caught up in the storm, likening it to a movie.

“It was insane. It was like that scene in ‘Twister’ where everything is flying around. I was waiting to see the cow to go by,” said Shannon Atkins, a staff member at the school. “We couldn’t get to safety, we were just right there holed up and there was nothing we could do.

“There was lightning right over the top of us, and winds blowing sideways. We had hail…just pelting us. It was just, the girls were crying,” she said.

 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-09-17 05:28:32

SoCal heat wave: Where temperatures have tied, broken records
The setting suns sets clouds aglow as they pass over the Los Angeles skyline.
By Amy Hubbard
September 16, 2014
The Southern California heat wave is breaking temperature records across the region

September’s heat wave has affected almost every corner of Southern California in recent days, but the map below shows some of the hardest-hit hot spots.

On Monday, Thermal lived up to its name but failed to break its record for the date, set in 2000. Meanwhile, heat champ Woodland Hills broke a 25-year-old record by 1 degree. Sandberg, at 96, topped its record from 1995. Camarillo tied a record of 90 from 2012. Newport Beach beat its record for the day from 1997, but its September average is 72, so that comfortable coastal temperature is par for the course.

Comment by cactus
2014-09-17 10:07:38

My cactus are happy they think they are back in Arizona

Comment by "Auntie Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2014-09-17 10:27:33

Is that how you chose your handle? You’re a cactus aficionado?

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Comment by 2banana
2014-09-17 05:44:35

record breaking cold in the midwest and the NE…

To include blizzards.

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-09-17 05:48:23

I’m sure the warmists have a perfectly logical, ready-made explanation for all of it.

Comment by taxpayers
2014-09-17 06:08:43

it’s rasis

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Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2014-09-17 13:16:39

I’m sure the warmists have a perfectly logical, ready-made explanation for all of it.

Science and math and understanding the world is a lot bigger than your American region which doesn’t amount to a hill of beans in the big picture?

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Comment by real journalists
2014-09-17 06:00:14

www dot drudgereport dot com

plenty of warmist clickbait there

 
 
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Comment by ibbots
2014-09-17 05:49:44

Thunderstorms in San diego, I bet everyone freaked out. Hurricanes are so rare down there. I forget when the last one made landfall near SD, but it was a long time ago. The waters too cold.

Comment by ibbots
2014-09-17 06:07:07

When I was a kid, my parents to me that thunder was when the angels were bowling and one of them had made a strike.

My wife’s Portuguese parents told her thunder was the sound of the devil and the angels wrestling for control of her soul.

Naturally, she now hates thunder.

Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-09-17 06:20:12

That’s nice

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Comment by iftheshoefits
2014-09-17 07:41:16

Wow, that’s a long forgotten memory! Same here (Your experience, not your wife’s)

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Comment by "Auntie Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2014-09-17 10:31:13

Thunder happens every year in San Diego. Hurricanes are for the east coast, not west. Coastal currents and all.

Comment by MightyMike
2014-09-17 11:05:27

I guess that nobody told those Pacific hurricanes that they’re in the wrong ocean.

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Comment by ibbots
2014-09-17 11:20:56

Not the type of storms that had yesterday, that is unusual.

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Comment by Oddfellow
2014-09-17 07:29:41

Arctic Shipping Set for Record as Sea Ice Melts

Financial Times

Comment by Oddfellow
2014-09-17 07:42:52

Financial Times piece requires a subscription.

Thanks to Global Warming, Arctic Shipping Has Quadrupled in the Past Year

“And recent studies suggest that the long-sought Northwest Passage off of Canada’s north coast is likely to open for business in the decades to come as well.”

http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2013/07/23/arctic_shipping_quadruples_in_past_year_as_global_warming_melts_sea_ice.html

 
Comment by real journalists
2014-09-17 07:48:35

Financial Times?

Isn’t that the one that’s printed on pink paper for all the floppy wristed sissyboys?

The most accurate source for your warmist warming news is the Drudge Report.

The reason 97% of scientists believe in global warming is because 97% of scientists are gay.

And if you feel insecure in your masculinity, buy a F-350. Nothing says “I’m not gay” better than driving an F-350.

And make sure to read the Drudge Report.

Comment by Oddfellow
2014-09-17 08:57:57

” pink paper for all the floppy wristed sissyboys”

And they read it while riding on the Tube.

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Comment by reedalberger
2014-09-17 12:43:17

“Is global warming finally real”

No. It’s still just another global progressive movement designed to overthrow capitalism. Nothing more, nothing less.

Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2014-09-17 13:21:41

just another global progressive movement designed to overthrow capitalism

Progressives will not “overthrow capitalism” - and most don’t want to. Our current supply-side/trickle-down’s growing wealth inequality is capitalism’s greatest threat. Can’t you see the root cause of why capitalism is under attack? Because its current brand is failing most people which was not the promise of capitalism.

Nothing more, nothing less.

 
Comment by "Auntie Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2014-09-17 14:08:38

Do you have any evidence that the scientists who collected and presented the data have actually been secretly planning to overthrow capitalism since the 1970s? What other scientific facts are actually conspiracies? Do you believe in viruses? What about evolution?

 
Comment by Oddfellow
2014-09-17 19:13:47

“just another global progressive movement designed to overthrow capitalism. ”

How are they faking that newly available shipping channel through the Arctic Ocean? Do the progressives have a secret fleet of icebreakers?

 
 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2014-09-17 13:13:46

Is global warming finally real, or is this just a record-breaking heat wave?

I don’t think it works like that but here’s a climate change/real estate story. Follow the money.

“Climate change has become a focal point in real estate discussions”

Climate change concerns weigh on Cape home-buying decisions

http://www.bostonglobe.com/lifestyle/real-estate/2014/09/13/climate-change-concerns-weigh-cape-home-buying-decisions/SnTafe2lwWiOsLt5AtezHK/story.html

TRURO — About five years ago, Neil Leifer and Ellen Carno decided to build a vacation home on Cape Cod and wanted a place within biking distance of the fast ferry from Boston to avoid summer traffic.

Provincetown was too busy, they said, so they narrowed their search to the Truro area.

Friends told them to stay away from the ocean side of the Cape, saying the bay side is less prone to storm damage and erosion. The Newton couple had met people who were forced to move their ocean-side homes farther back from the shore because of the eroding sand.

“Not something we wanted to get into,” Carno said.

They spotted a home on the water along Cape Cod Bay in Truro that seemed to tick off all of their boxes.

Having just sold their condo in New Hampshire’s Waterville Valley, they were not in a hurry and let a few months pass before returning to Truro. Those few months were winter ones that included strong storms.

“When we came back. . . . The house was twice as close to the water as it had been,” Carno said. “We decided then and there [that] we wanted to be on the second row back from the water.”

‘You do it for the romance of it, for the beauty of it, the sheer love of living on Cape Cod.’

Climate change has become a focal point in real estate discussions like this on Cape Cod.

 
 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-09-17 05:30:06

Is it a given that China will use stimulus to keep its highly-touted 7.5% GDP growth rate intact?

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-09-17 05:33:11

China Joins ECB in Adding Stimulus as Fed Scales Back
By Bloomberg News Sep 17, 2014 2:15 AM PT
Sept. 17 (Bloomberg) –- Bloomberg’ Stephen Engle reports on China’s central bank providing liquidity to the top five banks to bolster loan growth and shore up the economy. He speaks to Angie Lau on “First Up.” (Source: Bloomberg)

China’s central bank joined its European counterpart in boosting liquidity to address weakening growth, underscoring a divergence in direction among the world’s biggest economies as the U.S. reduces stimulus.

The People’s Bank of China is injecting 500 billion yuan ($81 billion) into the nation’s largest banks, according to a government official familiar with the matter, signaling the deepest concern yet with an economic slowdown. Federal Reserve Chair Janet Yellen will announce another $10 billion cut to its monthly bond purchases after this week’s meeting, economists forecast, as she steers toward gradual interest-rate increases.

China’s credit expansion builds on targeted measures to shore up growth while stopping short of broad-based stimulus seen in the U.S. in the wake of the global financial crisis and still being pushed in Europe and Japan. By attaching a three-month term to its injection, China is taking a step down that path while maintaining control of a process designed to fuel demand for credit in an already debt-laden economy.

“It’s like quantitative easing with Chinese characteristics,” said Louis Kuijs, Royal Bank of Scotland Group Plc’s chief Greater China economist in Hong Kong, who formerly worked at the World Bank. “The threat is that growth is slowing down below the comfort level of policy makers and that will then also warrant further easing steps.”

 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-09-17 05:55:34

China housing a “bubble on eve of destruction”
Posted by Houses and Holes in China Economy at 12:12am on September 17, 2014

Below is an op-ed by Gu Jun, a professor of sociology at Shanghai University, talking about the empty residential buildings all over the Chinese coast as a metaphor for the failure of central planning. He closes by tying it to Premier Li Keqiang’s reform efforts. This op-ed was the top headline in the real estate section of iFeng’s website on Sunday.

The title can roughly be translated as “this bubble is on the even of destruction.”

This bubble is not in Wenzhou, Ordos or Yulin, but on the shore. It is in Dalian , Yingkou, Qinhuangdao, Yantai, Weihai, Qingdao on the Shandong Peninsula, in Huizhou, Sanya and Beihai in the south, where the “ocean view apartment” is on the eve of destruction. Many rushed in to buy homes, but when night falls there are dark, empty buildings. In 2008, in Weihai, Shandong, homes were bought for more than ¥500,000; today they sell for ¥200,000, but there is little interest. There is a price, but no market.

When insiders describe the chaotic development of the coastline, they give three reasons. The first is that the timing wasn’t right, and they “over drafted” the coastline’s resources. The second is a lack of good planning; the developers moved as a herd and destructive development followed. Third, there was no core industry support, without a healthy ecosystem it could not continue growing. Valuable coastal ecosystems were destroyed, plans for scenic development fell through, now there is only a concrete and rebar forest, in the still of the night there are only a few lonely lights for comfort in this sad and lonely place.

This so called “coordinated” development, where government makes the decisions instead of independent actors, has turned into uncoordinated confusion. The BATs fly overseas (Baidu, Alibaba and Tencent), there is fake packaging scandals and shoreline destruction. Yet people still believe the government can implement the highest reason, they have a superstitious belief in planning, that government will somehow deliver long-term planning for the good of all society. Government is just another interest group though, and in the race to get promoted, officials pushed development to get ahead.

From the official’s standpoint, coastal ecology has nothing to do with me; fishermen, farmers and city residents need for a supply chain has nothing to do with me; scenic development needs what type of development and continuous promotion, has nothing to do with me; if the home buyers can even see the ocean, has nothing to do with me. It is the same with the losses in high speed rail, the world’s fastest M2 growth, and the investigation of the “tigers” and “houseflies.”

With this background, go back and understand Li Keqiang’s statement, “Whatever the market or society can do, will be left to the market or society” and the State Council’s powerful push to eliminate administrative approval, it is not hard to understand the meaning. Government and planning are the same as human reason, they are imperfect and flawed, waiting for the spontaneous action of countless individuals to correct.

Comment by Dman
2014-09-17 10:45:12

“Coastal ecology has nothing to do with me.”

Isn’t this the state motto of Florida?

 
Comment by Kidbuck
2014-09-18 00:41:27

This guy understands Hayek and spontaneous orders. Great article.

 
 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-09-17 05:58:11

Bloomberg News
Property Trusts Pull Support as Mounting Debt Due: China Credit

By Bloomberg News September 16, 2014
Cranes operate at a residential construction site in Beijing, China. “Given the bad housing sales, fewer trust companies are willing to help property companies raise money,” said a bond analyst in Shanghai at Haitong Securities Co.
Photographer: Brent Lewin/Bloomberg

Property trusts are funneling the least amount of money into Chinese developers in almost five years as maturing debt balloons, escalating default concerns.

Issuance of trusts for real-estate projects, which target wealthy individuals, slid to 30 billion yuan ($4.9 billion) this quarter from 67.8 billion yuan in the three months to June 30, the least since the start of 2010, data from research firm Use Trust show. Borrowing costs are rising as developers face $9.1 billion in bonds and loans maturing by year-end. Hubei Fuxin Science & Technology Co. sold AA rated securities with a 9.2 percent coupon Aug. 26, above the 6.38 percent average yield for similar-rated notes.

Cash from operations are also facing a squeeze as home sales fell 10.9 percent in the first eight months of the year in the world’s second-largest economy, which is forecast by the government to expand at the slowest pace in 24 years. Standard & Poor’s sees a risk that a developer may default in the coming 12 months, highlighting weak earnings at Renhe Commercial Holdings Co. and Glorious Property Holdings Ltd.

“Given the bad housing sales, fewer trust companies are willing to help property companies raise money,” said Li Ning, a bond analyst in Shanghai at Haitong Securities Co., the nation’s second-biggest brokerage. “Default risks are rising rapidly before so much debt is due next quarter.”

 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-09-17 06:00:24

China
China May Soon Go the Way of Japan, Says Merrill Lynch

By Peter Coy September 10, 2014
A Chinese investor looks at prices of shares at a stock brokerage house in Fuyang city, east China’s Zhejiang province on Aug. 28 Zhejiang province on Aug. 28
Photograph by Imaginechina via AP Photo

China is weaker than it appears and “may be entering into an asset-deflation phase” like Japan’s, says a report today by two analysts at Bank of America Merrill Lynch (BAC). China has vaulted ahead of Japan to become the world’s second-largest economy after the U.S. But like Japan, says the Merrill Lynch report, China is marked by “imbalanced growth, government stimulus, overcapacity, an overwrought housing market, and a severely under-capitalized financial system.”

The report, called “Will China Repeat Japan’s Experience?” is by Naoki Kamiyama, an equity analyst in Japan, and David Cui, a strategist in Singapore. They say that the China of 2014 resembles the Japan of 1992, when a historic real estate bubble was beginning to deflate. “In general, it appears to us that the problem facing China today may be more serious than Japan’s in the late 1980s and early 1990s,” they write.

Japan’s lost decade of the 1990s came about when the Bank of Japan began raising interest rates in 1989 to prick a real-estate bubble. Higher interest rates coupled with a global economic downturn caused real estate values to plummet. Properties became worth less than the loans on them. Lenders, not wanting to acknowledge losses, kept extending fresh credit to property owners so they could pay interest on old loans. The economy slumped.

 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-09-17 06:02:46

India
Role Reversal: India’s Growth May Surpass China’s by 2016
By Bruce Einhorn September 16, 2014
Electronic ticker boards at the National Stock Exchange in Mumbai, India
Photograph by Dhiraj Singh/Bloomberg

China’s President Xi Jinping is due to arrive in India tomorrow, and for a change he’s the one with an economy heading in the wrong direction, not Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi. After several dismal years, growth in India is rebounding, and the stock prices of companies selling to Indian consumers are benefiting from the surge in optimism that accompanied Modi’s landslide election victory in May. Britannia Industries (BRIT:IN), the Kolkata-based maker of cookies and other food products, is up 55 percent so far this year and today hit a 52-week high. “The Indian consumption story is back,” Credit Suisse analysts Neelkanth Mishra and Ravi Shankar wrote in a report published today.

Meanwhile, China is struggling as the troubled banking system and property markets put a damper on the economy. Hit by a slump in the property market, the Chinese economy expanded at an annual rate of 6.3 percent in August, a dramatic slowdown from the 7.4 percent growth in July and nowhere close to the government’s target of 7.5 percent. So far this year, the area of new property under development has declined 14.4 percent. The data from last month “made depressing reading,” Bloomberg economist Tom Orlik wrote in a report published yesterday.

The role reversal could lead to a world-turned-upside-down moment as early as 2016. That’s when India, always the laggard, may pull ahead of China and became the fastest-growing of Asia’s giants. India is likely to enjoy 7.2 percent growth in 2016, says Rajeev Malik, senior economist in Singapore with CLSA, compared with China’s 7.1 percent. Given the structural problems Xi faces and the slack Modi inherited, “China has to slow down, and India can do much better,” he says.

 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-09-17 06:05:12

Wherever he may be these days, I hope former HBB poster AlbuquerqueDan is thoroughly enjoying his barbecued crow dinner.

Comment by "Auntie Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2014-09-17 10:18:18

He would simply deny it.

 
 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-09-17 06:12:17

World Affairs 9/14/2014 @ 12:18PM
IMF Formula: China GDP Grew 2.2% In 2013

“Ten to 15 years ago, to create 1 million jobs, China needed 1.4% GDP growth,” said Markus Rodlauer, the chief of the IMF’s China mission, in an interview with the official Xinhua News Agency released Friday. “Five to 10 years ago, it needed 1%. Now it only needed 0.8% GDP growth.”

According to China’s Ministry of Human Resources and Social Security, the country added 2.73 million jobs in 2013. If the IMF formula is correct, China grew 2.2% last year.

So what did the IMF forecast for Chinese growth for 2013? On October 8 of that year, the organization issued a prediction of 7.5%.

Obviously something is wrong at the IMF as it is not possible to reconcile 7.5%, the forecast, with 2.2%, the result of applying Rodlauer’s formula. And to make matters worse, the IMF cannot argue that the 2.73 million figure is an anomaly. Low job creation is not a new phenomenon in China: the Human Resources Ministry reported that the number of jobs created in 2012 was 2.84 million.

What is going on? China, like many countries, supplies data on a confidential basis to the IMF so that it can conduct what are known as Article IV Consultations. The data China supplied to that organization may not have been the same as the figures the National Bureau of Statistics released to the public. If so, it means the IMF had been staying silent as Beijing issued different—and undoubtedly inaccurate—statistics to the public.

Some justify the IMF’s silence on the commonsense belief that Chinese officials would not work with the organization if it were to release Beijing’s real numbers. Yet whether the IMF is right or wrong to receive numbers under such conditions—I believe it is almost always wrong for multilateral organizations to not challenge member states for deception—Rodlauer’s formula has exposed an impossible-to-explain discrepancy.

So how fast is China growing? The IMF formula, despite its stark result, is not out of line with others of its type. Premier Li Keqiang, for example, last year said that each percentage point of GDP growth created 1.4 million jobs. That means China grew 2.0% in 2013. The Morgan Stanley formula—1.6 million to 1.7 million jobs for each point of growth—suggests growth of 1.7% or 1.6%.

Comment by "Auntie Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2014-09-17 10:22:12

weird

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-09-17 17:50:06

I’m sure 2.2% is exactly equal to 7.5% if you get your accounting right.

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Comment by oxide
2014-09-17 10:29:35

Can someone explain how a country can produce more jobs on less growth? Seems counterintuitive. These can’t be well paying careers. Or is there a rising Lucky Duck class in China?

Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2014-09-17 13:29:00

Can someone explain how a country can produce more jobs on less growth?

A uniquely American question. Why is it a uniquely American question? Because of 3 decades of American propaganda promoting the false religion of “The Promised Shared Benefits of Economic Growth“.

On way a country can produce more jobs on less growth is when there is less wealth/income inequality and activist public policy to promote domestic employment.

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Comment by "Auntie Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2014-09-17 14:12:16

They had some growth, so there were more jobs.

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Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-09-17 06:14:16

Economy
China Industrial Production Growth Slumps to Six-Year Low
China’s Industrial Production Growth Slowed to Lowest Level Since 2008 Global Financial Crisis
Updated Sept. 13, 2014 5:52 a.m. ET

China’s industrial production rose 6.9% in August compared with a year earlier. Agence France-Presse/Getty Images

BEIJING—China’s economic engine sputtered in August as industrial production growth slowed to its lowest level since the 2008 global financial crisis, according to data released Saturday, increasing the chance that Beijing will step up stimulus measures to bolster the world’s second-largest economy.

Economists said the sharp deceleration in industrial output, along with weaker fixed-asset investment, retail and real estate sales data, is likely to rattle regional stock markets Monday as Beijing struggles to reach its annual 7.5% economic-growth target in a nation where hitting benchmarks remains important.

“This figure is a bit shocking,” said ANZ economist Liu Li-Gang. “If we have another month of low IP growth, the third-quarter GDP figure could be at most 7%.”

Comment by "Auntie Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2014-09-17 10:25:46

That’s OK, Adan revised his 7.5% prediction down to 7.0-7.5, and then hedged it even more by saying that 6.5 is almost the same as 7.0.

 
 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-09-17 06:19:15

With all the gloomy economic news emanating from China these days, it is a great stroke of luck that the rest of the global economy is fully decoupled from China’s.

Party on, Wall Street bulls!

 
Comment by In Colorado
2014-09-17 09:03:07

Is it a given that China will use stimulus to keep its highly-touted 7.5% GDP growth rate intact?

I guess they can build more ghost cities and sell the flats to flipper groups, who will then resell them to other groups of flippers, and so on.

 
 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-09-17 05:35:27

Any bets on how long until the Fed raises short-term rates to normalcy?

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-09-17 05:38:13

Fed Seen Doubling Reverse Repos to Raise Interest Rates
By Matthew Boesler
Sep 16, 2014 8:50 AM PT

The Federal Reserve will have to double its borrowing through overnight reverse repurchase agreements in order to raise its benchmark interest rate from near zero, according to economists surveyed by Bloomberg.

Some 61 percent of 43 economists in the survey said the Fed would have to borrow more than $250 billion per day on average through its overnight reverse repo facility to sustain a floor under the federal funds rate at liftoff, more than double the $120.3 billion daily average logged in 2014 as the central bank has tested the facility. The survey was conducted Sept. 11-15.

In an overnight reverse repo, the Fed borrows cash from counterparties using securities as collateral. The next day, it returns the cash plus interest to the lender and gets the securities back.

Excess Reserves

The Fed’s need for a tool to influence repo rates directly arose after almost six years of bond buying to stimulate economic growth flooded the banking system with $2.68 trillion of excess reserves. That means banks no longer need to borrow reserves in the once-vibrant fed funds market, so the fed funds rate no longer represents the true cost of overnight credit.

In order to raise bank borrowing costs and ensure that the fed funds rate doesn’t trade below the FOMC’s target range when it begins tightening policy, the Fed will have to absorb cash from money funds that would otherwise be lent to banks through repos.

“Once you start seeing credit picking up more meaningfully and the Fed starts exerting the effort to tighten policy, then I would think that the level of liquidity absorption would rise,” said Millan Mulraine, deputy head of U.S. research and strategy at TD Securities USA LLC in New York. “For the Fed to be able to engineer policy tightening, it would probably have to absorb a significant portion” of the excess reserves created by the central bank’s bond purchases.

Comment by Shillow
2014-09-17 06:19:27

But does this say they will raise rates or only how they are going to do it if and when they eventually start? I still don’t see why they’d raise rates now or soon.

 
 
Comment by azdude
2014-09-17 05:38:58

“Moments ago FedEx reported first quarter earnings ended August 31, which blew expectations out of the water, because instead of the consensus EPS print of $1.96, EPS reported a whopping $2.10 for Q1, a massive 14 cent beat, and up 37% from last year’s $1.53 reported EPS.

Wow: it must be a great operating environment, with logistics and global trade humming for FDX to beat so impressively, right? Wrong.

Here’s how it happened, from the company’s own press release:

During the quarter, the company acquired 5.3 million shares of FedEx common stock. As of August 31, 2014, no shares remained under the existing share repurchase authorizations. Share repurchases benefited earnings in the quarter by $0.15 per diluted share.”

Looks like a scam to me.

Comment by rj chicago
2014-09-17 07:55:31

Yesterday’s Wall St. Journo iterated a similar look on major corporations (AAPL, XOM etc.) performing stock buy backs over the last several years in order to prop up bottom line numbers. Article is worth a read.

Comment by azdude
2014-09-17 08:29:52

do u have a link? thx

Its a scam that the media doesnt like to talk about.

look at the debt of corporations explode.

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Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-09-17 05:41:06

Does the decision depend somewhat on the level of consumer inflation?

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-09-17 05:43:30

U.S. consumer prices fall for first time in 16 months
Published: Sept 17, 2014 8:30 a.m. ET
By Jeffry Bartash
Reporter

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) - U.S. consumer prices fell in August for the first time in 16 months, largely because of a decline in the cost of filling up at the gas station, the government reported Wednesday. The consumer price index dropped a seasonally adjusted 0.2% last month, the Labor Department said Wednesday. Economists surveyed by MarketWatch had expected the CPI to be flat. Energy costs fell 2.6% amid declines in gasoline and natural gas. Food prices rose 0.2%, however. Excluding the volatile food and energy categories, consumer prices were unchanged. Consumer prices have risen an unadjusted 1.7% over the past 12 months, down from a recent peak of 2% in July. The receding rate of inflation means the Federal Reserve is likely to stick to its current course of slowly reducing stimulus for the economy. The drop in inflation also gave households a short-term boost by stretching how far their paychecks will go. Real or inflation-adjusted hourly wages jumped 0.4% last month to mark the biggest gain since late 2012. Still, real wages are up a scant 0.4% in the past 12 months.

Comment by azdude
2014-09-17 07:31:37

I think the demand for gasoline in the usa is cratering?

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Comment by In Colorado
2014-09-17 09:34:06

Gas has been stuck at $3.50 in my neck of the woods for over 2 months.

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Comment by aNYCdj
2014-09-17 13:14:35

i wish the price of lean hamburger, or talipia fish was that low again….no inflation yeah right

 
 
 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-09-17 08:12:18

Dollar slips vs euro after U.S. CPI data hints at dovish Fed
By Sam Forgione
NEW YORK
Wed Sep 17, 2014 10:54am EDT
An employee of a money changer counts U.S. dollar notes for a customer, as Indonesian rupiah is seen in the background, in Makassar January 31, 2013.
REUTERS/Yusuf Ahmad

(Reuters) - The U.S. dollar edged lower against the euro on Wednesday after data showed U.S. consumer prices fell last month, fuelling scepticism that the Federal Reserve will adopt a more hawkish tone in a policy statement later in the session.

The Labor Department said its Consumer Price Index fell 0.2 percent in August as a broad decline in energy prices offset increases in food and shelter costs, marking the first dip since April of 2013 and below expectations for a flat reading, according to a Reuters poll of economists.

“At the margin, (the CPI data) gives a little bit of ammunition to the people on the FOMC that were concerned about disinflation risks,” said Thierry Albert Wizman, global interest rates and currencies strategist at Macquarie Ltd in New York, referring to the Fed’s policy-setting Federal Open Market Committee, which ends a regular two-day meeting on Wednesday.

 
 
Comment by reedalberger
2014-09-17 12:46:19

“Any bets on how long until the Fed raises short-term rates to normalcy?”

The big brains at the FED are “low-rating” the middle class and the consumer economy right into a deep depression…But the super rich seem to be doing well.

 
 
Comment by 2banana
2014-09-17 05:36:30

Subprime Is Back With A Vengeance
Tyler Durden - 09/16/2014 - Zerohedge

I doubt that anyone will have any trouble understanding what this is, and where it goes. The whole shebang is busy re-interpreting and re-defining until there are no more legal barriers for your pension money to be ‘invested’ in subprime loans packaged in ‘securities’ of whatever shape and from. So some trader in the Hamptons can make more wads of cash, through ultra low rates, off of beer brewers buying each other where they would never even have thought of that that at normal interest rates.

This is where our economies are perverted. It’s the final excesses and steps of a broke society. It’s madness to the power of infinity. The only thing that’s certain is that in the end, your money will all be gone. That’s how Mario Draghi ‘saves’ the EU for a few more weeks, and that’s how the big boys of finance squeeze more from what little you have left (which is already much less than you think).

A world headed for nowhere.

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-09-17 05:39:37

One…two…three: Cue up the NAR shills to insist it ain’t so and it’s different this time.

 
Comment by ibbots
2014-09-17 05:51:41

‘Your pension money’….funny.

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-09-17 06:08:08

So long as the MBS are federally guaranteed, where is the downside?

Comment by oxide
2014-09-17 06:58:52

Ibbots is referring to that segment of the population that can barely make the rent, much less contribute to a “pension.”

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Comment by "Auntie Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2014-09-17 10:10:43

I don’t know anyone who receives a pension from their employer.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by 2banana
2014-09-17 05:42:53

A great read…

Hey - who remembers this?

The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion for the first 42 presidents – #43 added $4 trillion by his lonesome, so that we now have over $9 trillion of debt that we are going to have to pay back — $30,000 for every man, woman and child. That’s irresponsible. It’s unpatriotic.
– obama, April 2008

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The U.S. National Debt Has Grown By More Than A Trillion Dollars In The Last 12 Months
Tyler Durden - 09/16/2014 - Zerohedge

The idea that the Obama administration has the budget deficit under control is a complete and total lie. According to the U.S. Treasury, the federal government has officially run a deficit of 589 billion dollars for the first 11 months of fiscal year 2014. But this number is just for public consumption and it relies on accounting tricks which massively understate how much debt is actually being accumulated. If you want to know what the real budget deficit is, all you have to do is go to a U.S. Treasury website which calculates the U.S. national debt to the penny. On September 30th, 2013 the U.S. national debt was sitting at $16,738,183,526,697.32. As I write this, the U.S. national debt is sitting at $17,742,108,970,073.37. That means that the U.S. national debt has actually grown by more than a trillion dollars in less than 12 months. We continue to wildly run up debt as if there is no tomorrow, and by doing so we are destroying the future of this nation.

This is the greatest government debt bubble in the history of the world, but very few people seem to have any desire to do anything about this anymore. We are literally gorging on debt, and most Americans seem to think that it is just fine and dandy.

Perhaps that it is because we have never really experienced any serious consequences for going into so much debt yet.

But when it comes to running up debt, a day of reckoning always comes eventually.

Just ask Greece.

-The U.S. national debt has increased by more than 7 trillion dollars since Barack Obama has been in the White House. By the time Obama’s second term is over, we will have accumulated about as much new debt under his leadership than we did under all of the other U.S. presidents in all of U.S. history combined.

-Right now, the United States already has more government debt per capita than Greece, Portugal, Italy, Ireland or Spain.

-In August, the average rate of interest on the government’s marketable debt was 2.028 percent. In January 2000, the average rate of interest on the government’s marketable debt was 6.620 percent. If we got back to that level today, we would be paying well over a trillion dollars a year just in interest on the national debt.

What we are doing to future generations is absolutely unconscionable. We are stealing trillions upon trillions of dollars from our children and our grandchildren, and we are willingly consigning them to a lifetime of debt slavery.

If you were to take all forms of debt in our country and divide it up equally to each person, the average family of four would owe approximately $735,000.

For example, an astounding 35 percent of all Americans have debts that are so overdue that they have been referred to collection agencies.

The big question is how long our “bubble economy” can keep going before it finally collapses.

Sadly, most Americans have no idea that we are living in a giant debt-fueled bubble that has a limited lifespan.

Comment by real journalists
2014-09-17 06:19:16

There’s alot more Free Sh*t Army than there are of you, and they vote

Permanent Democrat Supermajority

Comment by iftheshoefits
2014-09-17 07:44:43

a.k.a. ‘The pool of first time home buyers’

Comment by azdude
2014-09-17 08:28:04

they are entitled to a loan back by the taxpayers. we can print more money to make things good if they default.

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Comment by iftheshoefits
2014-09-17 08:37:01

And even with all that, they’ve still given up on ever buying…

But as Amy reminded us, they still fantasize about it sometimes.

 
 
 
Comment by reedalberger
2014-09-17 12:50:54

“There’s alot more Free Sh*t Army than there are of you, and they vote”

That’s a good thing in your eyes? How will that eventually affect your career field, your neighborhood, your safety and your quality of life?

 
 
Comment by Shillow
2014-09-17 06:31:24

Deficits don’t matter. Who was it that said that, Krugman?

The people are doing fine, heck, from a materialist standpoint better than ever. iPads, IPhones, big screen TVs, 200 channels, plus Netflix, plus Amazon Prime, plus Youtube. You never have to be bored. You can learn anything on Youtube for free. Best food in the world, cheap super cheap, Chipotle, Five Guys, Papa Johns. Books can be bought or borrowed from a library in an instant and immediately downloaded.

And now that prices are going to collapse again, everything will be wonderful. C’mon in boys, the water is fine.

Comment by Cracker Bob
2014-09-17 08:27:46

That was Cheney.

 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2014-09-17 13:34:21

Best food in the world

USA? On the whole? I don’t think “best food” means what you think it means.

U.S. Waistlines Keep Growing, Women Leading the Way
Average is nearly 39 inches, CDC researchers find

http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20140916/us-waistlines-keep-growing-with-women-leading-the-way

TUESDAY, Sept. 16, 2014 (HealthDay News) — Americans’ belt size continues to inch up, and women’s waistlines are widening faster than men’s, according to new government research.

The average waist size ballooned more than an inch — from 37.6 inches to 38.8 inches — between 1999 and 2012, U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention researchers found.

Based on their waist circumference, 54 percent of Americans were abdominally obese in 2012, up from 46 percent 13 years earlier.

“Waists are still expanding in the U.S., and particularly so among women,” said study researcher Dr. Earl Ford, a medical officer at the CDC.

While men’s waists increased less than an inch — about 0.8 of an inch on average — women’s midriffs grew about twice that, or 1.5 inches, Ford said.

Waistlines larger than 35 inches for women and more than 40 inches for men are considered abdominal obesity, a risk factor for heart disease and diabetes.

 
 
Comment by cactus
2014-09-17 10:14:10

-The U.S. national debt has increased by more than 7 trillion dollars since Barack Obama has been in the White House.”

Probably why governments hate deflation.

 
 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-09-17 05:47:14

Historians will ‘tar and feather’ Europe’s central bankers, says Nobel laureate
Ambrose Evans-Pritchard, in Lindau, Germany, The Telegraph | August 21, 2014 | Last Updated: Aug 21 2:03 PM ET

Economists warned that the European Central Bank, led by Mario Draghi, may not be able to carry out a mass of purchase of bonds unless the eurozone grasps the nettle on fiscal union, and might itself be engulfed by crisis.

An array of Nobel economists have launched a blistering attack on the eurozone’s economic strategy, warning that contractionary policies risk years of depression and a fresh eruption of the debt crisis.

“Historians are going to tar and feather Europe’s central bankers,” said Professor Peter Diamond, the world’s leading expert on unemployment.

“Young people in Spain and Italy who hit the job market in this recession are going to be affected for decades. It is a terrible outcome, and it is surprising how little uproar there has been over policies that are so stunningly destructive,” he told The Telegraph at a gathering of Nobel laureates at Lake Constance.

Comment by cactus
2014-09-17 10:15:15

I though buying bonds is what the US has done?

No tar and feathers here ?

Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2014-09-17 17:46:01

Too many zombies. Look at the 95% who voted for the status quo in 2008 and 2012, and will fall for Hillary and Jed (same candidate) in 2016.

 
 
 
Comment by phony scandals
2014-09-17 05:54:14

“There are still too many homeowners … who are struggling even though they have played by the rules”

How bad could they be “struggling” if they haven’t paid their mortgage in years?

McNerney forgot…Through no fault of their own.

What are these rules anyway? Nobody told me about rules that say you don’t have to pay your bills. What book is this in? What page is it on? Compared to these rules my rules s#ck.

Congress considers bill to aid homeowners facing foreclosure

WASHINGTON, D.C.
September 17, 2014 4:59am
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Legislation to help speed up the short sale process and aid homeowners who may otherwise be facing foreclosure has been introduced in Congress by Rep. Jerry McNerney, D-Stockton. It’s getting initial bipartisan support, he says.

The bill would require a second mortgage lender of a federal mortgage loan to review and make a decision on a short sale agreement within 45 days. If the lender does not make a decision within that time frame, the short sale will be deemed approved on the 46th day.

“The housing market in my district has improved, but there are still too many homeowners here and around the nation who are struggling even though they have played by the rules,” says Mr. McNerney.

A short sale is a mortgage sales transaction in which the seller’s lender agrees to accept a payment for less than the loan’s remaining balance. In the event of a foreclosure, the second mortgage is subordinate to the first mortgage, and the lender of the first mortgage receives payment first.

But when a homeowner initiates a short sale request, some second mortgage lenders use stonewalling tactics to delay a payment to the first mortgage lender, Mr. McNerney says.

Short sales can help both lenders and homeowners. Often, it is far less costly for a lender to negotiate a short sale agreement than go through the foreclosure process. A short sale is also less damaging to a homeowner’s credit score than a foreclosure.

“The National Association of Realtors applauds Congressman McNerney for his efforts to improve the short sale process and provide distressed homeowners an alternative to foreclosure,” says Steve Brown, president of the National Association of Realtors. “NAR stands ready to collaborate with Congressman McNerney and Congress to enact legislation that will help homeowners stave off foreclosure.”

The bill also has support from a bipartisan group of original cosponsors, including Reps. Richard Nugent, R-Fla.; Thomas Rooney, R-Fla.; Jim Costa, D-Fresno; Tony Cardenas, D-Los Angeles; Hank Johnson, D-Ga., and George Miller, D-Richmond.

http://www.centralvalleybusinesstimes.com/stories/001/?ID=26734

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-09-17 06:17:10

How is not paying your mortgage “playing by the rules”?

Comment by phony scandals
2014-09-17 06:58:13

“How is not paying your mortgage “playing by the rules”?”

I am going to have to write Rep. Jerry McNerney, D-Stockton and ask what book these rules are in.

Maybe these rules are in the Affordable Care Act. We had to pass the bill to find out what was in it. Maybe there were some cool rules for people who don’t pay their mortgage in there.

Comment by iftheshoefits
2014-09-17 07:55:03

But they did play by the rules! It’s just that they’re Mr. Banker’s rules.

And the rules were set to benefit Mr. Banker at the expense of the poor debt serf. Which is exactly what has happened.

My only question is (seriously), why is the NAR cheerleading this? Maybe agents really are so starved for business, even they are ready for a wave of new short sales to start dumping on the market again? Bring it on, I say.

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Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-09-17 08:07:43

I guess that makes sense. All they had to do in order to “play by the rules” was to buy a home using a mortgage loan they never had a snowball’s chance in hell of paying off out of their incomes. Since Mr. Banker gave them the zero-down, neg-am, adustable rate mortgage needed to make the purchase, it was all good.

 
 
 
Comment by rms
2014-09-17 07:23:14

How is not paying your mortgage “playing by the rules”?

These days it’s called, “a challenge.”

 
Comment by Beer and Cigar Guy
2014-09-17 07:38:13

NO joke/NO exaggeration: A young guy (mid-30’s) came into work yesterday to pick up some electrical supplies to effect repairs on a house he “ow(e)ns”. He is a builder here in central Florida who lost his ass during the First Act of the Bubble. The house he was repairing was originally his personal residence, which he is now renting out. 8,000 sq/ft which he originally built for 3.6 million. He has not made a payment since 2009 and the bank has made no serious attempt to take it back.

Comment by AbsoluteBeginner
2014-09-17 07:52:47

How uniquely American.

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Comment by Beer and Cigar Guy
2014-09-17 08:19:10

Not uniquely American at all. Keynes cited the same phenomenon back in the early ’40s and even then he referred to it as an ‘old saying’.
“If you owe your bank a hundred pounds, you have a problem. But if you owe a million, it has.

 
Comment by In Colorado
2014-09-17 09:44:08

How uniquely American.

More like how uniquely Floridian. I’ve never heard of anyone in the Centennial State getting away with that. From what I’ve seen here it’s 12 months tops and they’re gone.

 
Comment by MightyMike
2014-09-17 09:54:13

It’s possible that people don’t talk about it much in your leafy suburb.

 
Comment by In Colorado
2014-09-17 13:14:14

There is still an element of shame in my neck of the woods associated with a foreclosure, but from what I have heard in polite company foreclosures are timelier out here. Denver might be another story.

 
 
Comment by phony scandals
2014-09-17 07:54:50

“8,000 sq/ft which he originally built for 3.6 million. He has not made a payment since 2009 and the bank has made no serious attempt to take it back.”

So he is playing by the rules.

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Comment by oxide
2014-09-17 10:04:01

My guess is that the people “playing by the rules” are the folks next door who DO pay their mortgage and have to look at this blight.

If a bank can no longer sit on distressed house, then the house can go to someone who will take care of it, thus raising the value, or to someone who will fix it up and sell it, which will also raise the value.

Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-09-17 10:28:15

It’s called offsetting depreciation Donk. And it’s costing you $7k/yr.

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Comment by real journalists
2014-09-17 06:08:44

Because the future belongs to Lucky Ducky, and the future is now

“Incomes in the U.S. ticked up in 2013 for the first time in six years, an increase that did little to repair the damage to American paychecks since the recession.

The increase, which wasn’t statistically significant, leaves incomes around 8% below their level of 2007, when the recession officially started.”

http://online.wsj.com/articles/u-s-incomes-edge-higher-as-sluggish-recovery-persists-1410878730

There is no “pent-up demand” for $500,000 starter homes, not today, not tomorrow, not ever

Comment by In Colorado
2014-09-17 09:48:41

The increase, which wasn’t statistically significant, leaves incomes around 8% below their level of 2007, when the recession officially started.”

It’s very noticeable at the local chain restaurants. There’s never a waiting list anymore. And we can make a tenderloin dinner at home for less than going out for burgers to a place like CrappleBee’s, so we rarely eat out anymore. If we do, it’s because we’re on the go, and we usually just grab something at Chipotle or Panera.

 
 
Comment by real journalists
2014-09-17 06:15:59

This is a Drudge Report link and was not written by real journalists.

Foreign born population predicted to rise to 60 million by 2022. And every single one of them will vote Democrat for life. How do you say Free Sh*t Army in Mexican?

http://m.nationalreview.com/corner/388098/congressional-report-foreign-born-population-could-rise-60-million-people-within-ten

Comment by Shillow
2014-09-17 06:36:45

I think Rio speaks Spanish.

Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2014-09-17 13:53:03

I think Rio speaks Spanish.

Yea Shillow. I “speak Spanish” because I live in Brazil and everyone knows Brazil speaks Spanish.

Comment by Shillow
2014-09-17 18:50:59

Brazilians speak Portuguese but I think you speak Spanish. I think you said you were having trouble with Portuguese.

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Comment by 2banana
2014-09-17 07:32:20

How do you say free sh*t army in Mexican?

Soy Democrat…

Comment by iftheshoefits
2014-09-17 07:56:05

I think you and Rio should get a room.

Comment by real journalists
2014-09-17 08:06:05

He posts Drudge Report links so he can’t be gay.

Only men who love men read the New York Times.

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Comment by iftheshoefits
2014-09-17 08:39:25

Hey, I didn’t mean it in that sense! This is a family blog!

Well, most of the time, anyway.

 
 
 
Comment by phony scandals
2014-09-17 07:59:58

liberar a alguien mierda ejército

 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2014-09-17 13:58:14

How do you say free sh*t army in Mexican?

You don’t know how to “speak Mexican”? They “speak Mexican” in Spain right? You only speak “American”?

Here’s how you say “free sh!t army in Portuguese.

“Os irmãos Koch e rico 0,01% dos Estados Unidos.”

 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2014-09-17 17:48:49

How do you say “Free Sh!t Army” in Spanish?

“Vive DNC!”

 
 
Comment by In Colorado
2014-09-17 09:52:35

How do you say Free Sh*t Army in Mexican?

El Ejercito del estiercol gratuito.

That is of course the literal translation. In Mexico freeloaders are called “gorrones”, so it would probably be “El Ejercito de los Gorrones”

 
Comment by reedalberger
2014-09-17 12:58:53

“How do you say Free Sh*t Army in Mexican?”

I say it like this: “Eff you to all the college indoctrinated hipster drones who developed the communist insurgency know as multiculturalism and open borders. May you and your families be the first to succumb to the monster you created.”

Sorry, my spanish is a bit rusty.

Comment by MightyMike
2014-09-17 15:29:46

You don’t make much sense in English either.

 
 
 
Comment by real journalists
2014-09-17 06:30:30

Because fattists gonna fat

“Fifty-four percent of U.S. adults have abdominal obesity, up from 46 percent in 1999-2000 … During the 12-year period studied, the average waist size in the U.S. expanded to 38 inches for women, a gain of 2 inches. It grew to 40 inches for men, a 1-inch increase.”

http://www.denverpost.com/health/ci_26545267/cdc-study-americans-bellies-are-expanding-fast

Comment by Shillow
2014-09-17 07:31:13

Fat is voluntary. One of the simplest of problems facing society today. Simple problem, simple solution. But it keeps getting worse.

 
Comment by Northeastener
2014-09-17 07:33:22

Meh. My wife was a size 2 in college. At 40, she is still a size 2. Me, BMI never tells the real story because it doesn’t take into account muscle mass. Having said that, I’ve lost almost 10lbs in the last month by cutting back calories and increasing cardio. It really is about self-discipline, exercise, and consuming less. Too bad the average american today is a sloth with no self-discipline and a penchant for instant gratification.

Comment by "Auntie Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2014-09-17 10:03:18

Were you under the impression that the average non-American is different?

 
Comment by drumminj
2014-09-17 18:21:50

Too bad the average american today is a sloth with no self-discipline and a penchant for instant gratification.

How dare you call me average! :)

 
 
 
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Comment by Blackhawk
2014-09-17 06:43:55

Just returned from a week in North Dakota, where the fracking process has opened up the oil and gas industry.

Findings:
1) In western ND, business is booming. Example, I ran across a small fast food restaurant that had altered it’s business model to include catering to the oilfield businesses. I guess they host regular dinner parties since everyone is so busy and since they’re frequently in these small rural towns. Anyway this guy was working 7 days a week providing meals to the oilfield bunch.

2) Rents in Williston, the apparent center of the boom, have sky rocketed. I have a relative up there and they pay $2700 per month for a basic 2 bedroom apt. Many companies associated with the oil and gas industries are providing bedrooms in modular homes, RVs, etc in an effort to find employees.

3) Jobs openings are everywhere. One of my accounts had openings for three drivers, CDL required. It appears that there are openings for just about any type of business.

Conclusion. If you need a job or a new career, you can find it in ND. Note the winters are cold, the work is usually very demanding but the benefits could include a new beginning for you and the family.

Also, I ran across this article on fracking and this seems very close to what I’ve discovered regarding it’s benefits and drawbacks.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/09/13/stanford-publishes-a-report-on-the-balanced-use-of-fracking/

Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-09-17 06:52:39

Until it goes bust which it will.

Comment by azdude
2014-09-17 07:17:15

fracking will be determined harmful to the environment eventually, its a matter of time.

Comment by redmondjp
2014-09-17 12:37:03

If you’ve read the most recent report, it’s not the fracking itself that is the problem. The problem is the number of well casing seal failures which allow groundwater contamination from methane that comes from much deeper levels.

And this problem worsens over time. After energy company is done with a well, what happens?

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Comment by cactus
2014-09-17 17:29:39

gets hot down there real hot

how deep are they drilling ? 15K feet or more ?

 
 
 
 
Comment by azdude
2014-09-17 06:58:42

most people would rather be on food stamps than freeze their ass off n n dakota.

 
Comment by real journalists
2014-09-17 06:58:52

That article was not written by real journalists

 
Comment by MightyMike
2014-09-17 07:47:16

If you need a job or a new career, you can find it in ND.

That number of available jobs there is probably much less than 1% of the total number of people who need a job.

Comment by Blackhawk
2014-09-17 08:12:27

MM,

You really don’t get how many jobs there are.

Needing a job and wanting to actually work are two different things.

We make welfare so lucrative that some people would rather just sit at home and wait for the check to come in the mail (or do they even do that any longer?)

Well time to go to work. I have taxes to pay.

Comment by MightyMike
2014-09-17 09:16:23

You really don’t get how many jobs there are.

My point was that the number of unfilled jobs is much, much smaller than the number of people who need a job. There are millions of people who need a job. There’s probably less than 50,000 unfilled jobs in North Dakota. Do you have access to statistics that show otherwise?

Needing a job and wanting to actually work are two different things.

I don’t disagree with that, but it’s irrelevant to my point.

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Comment by In Colorado
2014-09-17 10:04:43

Something else to consider. Few people have the physical ability or the skill to be an oil roughneck. Sure, there are other jobs, and while they might pay burger flippers more, you might have to sleep in your car as you won’t be able to afford rent.

Boom towns are not the answer to our ailing economy.

 
Comment by MightyMike
2014-09-17 11:19:52

Yeah, that reminds me of Ronald Reagan talking about all of the ads in the newspapers for chemical engineers when unemployment was 10%.

 
Comment by Lemming with an inntertube
2014-09-17 15:59:24

if there were more people looking for jobs (than actual jobs openings), there wouldn’t be so many (jobs) available in ND.

 
Comment by cactus
2014-09-17 17:32:59

Few people have the physical ability or the skill to be an oil roughneck.’

yea pretty demanding and easy to hurt yourself. I would guess skilled construction workers could make the transition , probably need mechanics, welders , truck drivers , but some 53 year old over weight person with bad back who needs a job not so much.

 
Comment by MightyMike
2014-09-17 17:57:35

if there were more people looking for jobs (than actual jobs openings), there wouldn’t be so many (jobs) available in ND.

Blackhawk suggested that an unemployed person anywhere in America could get a job in ND. That’s why I compared the total number of unemployed people in all fifty states to the number of available jobs in North Dakota.

 
 
Comment by MightyMike
2014-09-17 09:24:10

I should also mention that a lot of the research behind the fracking boom was funded by the federal government. Having the government do the research for industry and then handing over the results for free is a form of corporate welfare. So, you’re right. Welfare is lucrative for quite a few industries. Be sure to mention this to people the next you’re up in North Dakota.

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Comment by "Auntie Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2014-09-17 10:01:08

There are plenty of jobs, but apartment rents are $2700. In other words, don’t uproot yourself.

 
Comment by jane
2014-09-17 12:48:13

B-Hawk - Thanks for the feet on the street report! Always interesting!

 
 
Comment by real journalists
2014-09-17 06:46:01

The New York Post are not real journalists, you should only get your narrative of the Obama administration from the New York Times

http://nypost.com/2014/09/13/how-falsehoods-and-fibs-have-shaped-the-obama-presidency/

Comment by MightyMike
2014-09-17 07:49:33

The last on the list is a statement about the future, not a lie. The Post is lame, whether or not you call it real.

 
 
Comment by real journalists
2014-09-17 06:52:08

Now that marijuana is legal, Democrats have no reason to bother voting

“Republican Bob Beauprez holds a 10-point lead against Gov. John Hickenlooper, according to a new poll, marking a major shift in a governor’s race deadlocked for months.”

http://www.denverpost.com/election2014/ci_26550565/poll-big-shift-beauprez-posts-10-point-lead

Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2014-09-17 17:53:14

Hickenlooper enraged Colorado gun owners by passing a raft of Bloomberg-funded gun control measures after that Joker lunatic shot up an Aurora theater. Grassroots gun owners responded and recalled worthless POS lib-dems like John Morse and others - it’s “Hick’s” turn next election. He got his thirty pieces of silver from Bloomberg, now his sorry ass is going to have to deal with Colorado Second Amendment supporters.

 
 
Comment by real journalists
2014-09-17 06:56:58

I wonder if U2 will play a free concert for the Foxconn employees?

Probably not, because like all Social Justice Warriors™ Bono would rather hobnob with the 0.1%er pigmen

http://www.cnet.com/au/news/iphone-6-demand-challenges-apple-supplier-foxconn/

Comment by real journalists
2014-09-17 07:23:15

Meanwhile, millennial womyn got some first world problems

http://www.businessinsider.com/will-the-iphone-6-plus-fit-into-womens-jeans-pockets-2014-9

Comment by "Auntie Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2014-09-17 09:47:52

It would be much better if young adult Americans would have third-world problems, just like their predecessors.

Comment by real journalists
Comment by "Auntie Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2014-09-17 10:45:44

Why are you posting this unverifiable dribble about absolutely nothing?

 
Comment by "Auntie Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2014-09-17 14:16:49

drivel

 
 
 
Comment by In Colorado
2014-09-17 09:59:34

Isn’t that what purses are for ;-)

FWIW, one of the reasons I still have a “dumbphone” is because it’s relatively rugged compared to a pocket computer and small enough to fit in my pocket.

 
 
Comment by Shillow
2014-09-17 07:35:00

I love the term Social Justice Warrior. I prefer just SJW for short. But their kryptonite is the simple question “how do you pay your bills?” It’s usually someone else’s money, even if they have something of a job to keep up appearances.

Comment by MightyMike
2014-09-17 07:51:07

Doesn’t Bono make money in the music business?

Comment by oxide
2014-09-17 11:16:52

+1. If Bono were a flaming conservative like Chuck Nugent, he would be embraced as a bootstrapping self-made man who srated a business with hard work and talent. But since he’s a lib, he “never had a real job.”

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Comment by real journalists
2014-09-17 13:57:22

nothing u2 has recorded since rattle and hum could be considered ‘music’

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Comment by Shillow
2014-09-17 18:57:25

Bono is not an SJW. He’s just a rich guy.

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Comment by "Auntie Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2014-09-17 09:56:10

That’s because wealthy people are the only ones who have enough time and money to devote themselves to causes.

Comment by MightyMike
2014-09-17 11:41:21

Back in the days when most married woman were housewives, they had some time to participate in political movements. The high inflation of the 1970s brought an end to that, benefiting the one percent.

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Comment by Shillow
2014-09-17 19:01:05

Most SJWs are college kids.

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Comment by phony scandals
2014-09-17 07:16:00

Treasury Dept. Ignores Fraud Charges and Awards Comerica 5 more Years of Providing Benefit Cards to Elderly and Disabled

Treasury Department had rewarded Comerica with $32.5 million for work it was supposed to do for free

by Allgov | September 17, 2014

Comerica Bank seemingly was on its way out of doing business with the U.S. Department of the Treasury after it was learned that the bank had exposed thousands of elderly and disabled Americans to fraud. But somehow it just got another deal with the agency…for another five years.

The Center for Public Integrity first revealed Comerica’s foul-ups last year. An investigation showed thousands of individuals “had their Social Security and other benefits illegally rerouted to criminals’ accounts because of weak fraud controls” at Comerica, Daniel Wagner reported.

The center also found that an “aggressive” marketing campaign by Comerica and the Treasury Department resulted in a million Americans being sent “Direct Express” benefit cards—used to distribute Social Security and disability payments—to people who didn’t need or request them. This resulted in a financial gain for the bank, given that card fees are much higher than direct deposit into an account, which many of the card recipients already had.

On top of that, it was discovered that the Treasury Department had rewarded Comerica with $32.5 million for work it was supposed to do for free. The improper government payment turned the bank’s potential 2013 loss of $24.2 million into an $8.4 million profit.

The findings were enough to prompt Treasury officials to announce that they would bring in another firm to handle the department’s “Direct Express” services that Comerica allegedly botched.

 
Comment by real journalists
2014-09-17 07:17:10

Because it’s good to be the king

How to join 9,000 U.S. taxpayers with Romney-sized IRAs

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-09-17/how-to-join-9-000-u-s-taxpayers-with-romney-sized-iras.html

 
Comment by phony scandals
2014-09-17 07:23:58

“What difference – at this point, what difference does it make?”

Comment by real journalists
2014-09-17 07:37:26

Let the real journalists script your narrative, boy

 
 
Comment by phony scandals
2014-09-17 07:30:22

Pelosi: The World Will End if Republicans Win in November

Author: Rusty Weiss
Posted: September 15, 2014

Maher asked Pelosi about recent polling which shows that the GOP is likely to take over the upper chamber and asked, given gridlock in Washington, why it matters that Democrats keep control.

“It would be very important for the Democrats to retain control of the Senate,” Pelosi told Maher. “Civilization as we know it today would be in jeopardy if the Republicans win the Senate.”

http://www.headlinepolitics.com/pelosi-world-will-end-republicans-win-november/ - 50k -

Comment by 2banana
2014-09-17 07:37:06

To a progressive

The world does end if even the most inefficient and ineffective government program takes just a 1% cut.

Except, of course, the military as some of them do not vote democrat…

 
 
Comment by phony scandals
2014-09-17 07:32:06

“Civilization as we know it today would be in jeopardy if the Republicans win the Senate.”

“What difference – at this point, what difference does it make?”

Comment by real journalists
2014-09-17 07:38:41

All your base are belong to Dianne Feinstein

 
Comment by In Colorado
2014-09-17 09:55:41

“Civilization as we know it today would be in jeopardy if the Republicans win the Senate.”

And that would be bad … because?

Unfortunately, her statement is a lie. Nothing significant would change if the GOP won.

 
 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-09-17 08:14:29

If they only could abolish these pesky credit standards and get subprime buyers off the sidelines, the U.S. homebuilding industry could have a break-out rally!

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-09-17 08:16:27

Bulletin Dow industrials atop all-time closing high as Wall Street awaits Fed

Home-builder confidence highest in almost nine years
Published: Sept 17, 2014 10:45 a.m. ET
By Ruth Mantell
Economics reporter

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — A gauge of confidence among home builders rose in September to the highest level in almost nine years, as builders’ views on present and coming sales rose, according to data released Wednesday.

The overall gauge of builder sentiment rose 4 points to 59 in September, the National Association of Home Builders/Wells Fargo said. Readings above 50 signal that builders, generally, are optimistic about sales trends, and September marks the third consecutive month of above-50 readings.

A strengthening jobs market is perking up builders, though there are still major headwinds from strict credit standards, among other factors.

Confidence among home builders is running higher than levels historically seen at recent building rates for new homes. On Thursday, the government will report on new home construction, and economists polled by MarketWatch expect to find out that the pace slowed down in August.

Economists are forecasting faster sales and construction of new homes as the economy adds jobs at a healthy rate. Also, mortgage rates remain relatively low, making financing relatively affordable. However, not all borrowers are able to take advantage of cheap mortgages. Years after the financial meltdown lenders’ loan standards are still so high that some creditworthy borrowers haven’t been able to get a mortgage. Also, quickly rising house prices over the past year narrowed the pool of borrowers who can afford a new home.

Data details from Wednesday’s report showed that NAHB’s gauge of builders’ views on coming sales of single-family homes rose 2 points to 67 in September, while a barometer of builders’ views on present sales rose 5 points to 63, and a gauge of prospective-buyer traffic increased 5 points to 47.

“The data continue to suggest that the housing recovery is back on track,” said Jim O’Sullivan, chief U.S. economist at High Frequency Economics.

Comment by mathguy
2014-09-17 12:18:45

Homebuilders SHOULD be optimistic and cranking out new houses at below current market prices right now. A successful pricing strategy is necessary to just slightly undercut the other used inventory coming on market discounting depreciation. With prices high, they should be selling as many as they can!

That said, for some reason, these morons want to set the prices too high and haggle. A such, sales are slumping due to too high pricing. They will come around soon though… always do!

 
Comment by azdude
2014-09-17 13:24:55

and mortgage applications are at 14 year lows. someone is full of sh@t.

 
 
 
Comment by rj chicago
2014-09-17 08:15:44

Ruh Roh. Look out for inflation!! This from Europac.net - peter schiff

http://www.europac.net/commentaries/doubling_down_inflation

Comment by Cracker Bob
2014-09-17 08:33:11

One day, maybe, Peter Schiff will be right.

 
Comment by "Auntie Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2014-09-17 09:42:11

Consumer prices are down.

Comment by In Colorado
2014-09-17 09:53:59

I’ll have to remind my grocer.

Comment by azdude
2014-09-17 13:20:48

I’ve been finding some deals at the local 99 cents store. A lot of the groceries are cr@p but they do get some good stuff rolling through.

The two local groceries stores are union and their prices are often double non union. Winco is getting popular in az.

Costco has good meat.

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Comment by In Colorado
2014-09-17 14:16:59

The two local groceries stores are union and their prices are often double non union. Winco is getting popular in az.

I’ve never seen differences like that. Safeway is the local union store and they cost maybe 10% more than WalMart.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by "Auntie Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2014-09-17 09:12:26

crater

Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-09-17 09:30:04

crater

Comment by real journalists
2014-09-17 09:58:01

wrong. listen to the real journalists on cnbc and marketwatch, they know what they’re talking about.

Comment by Can_Bubble
2014-09-17 10:10:32

Global crater

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Comment by "Auntie Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2014-09-17 10:51:42

Crater World

 
 
 
 
Comment by Barney Frank
2014-09-17 15:54:43

cwater

 
 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-09-17 10:53:04

Why buy a run down 20+ year house at a grossly inflated price when you can build it or rent it for half the monthly cost?

Comment by azdude
2014-09-17 13:18:15

shareholders are peons. They are the last to be paid in a bankruptcy and the executives steal all the equity.

I went in to kmart the other day and the place was dead as usual and they had a ton of employees running around bullsh@tting. They must be losing money hand over fist.

As long as the business is in operation the executives can bleed off value.

They will milk this for another few years and file, wiping out shareholders.

Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-09-17 13:32:07

Remember…. houses depreciate resulting in losses every day you own it.

 
 
Comment by real journalists
2014-09-17 13:51:19

I have so much money left after “throwing money away on rent” every month that I don’t know where to throw it

Comment by "Auntie Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2014-09-17 14:19:35

Throw it to me.

 
 
 
 
Comment by phony scandals
2014-09-17 15:13:37

Actual Headline: “Global warming likely to cause colder and snowier winters, scientists say”

You just can’t make this stuff up

by Jim Hoft | Gateway Pundit | September 17, 2014

Who knew?

Global Warming will likely cause more snow, ice and bitter cold?

At least, that what the liberal media is pushing this week.

Actual headline:

“Global warming likely to cause colder and snowier winters, scientists say”

The US just suffered through its coldest winter on record.

Antarctica sea ice set an all-time record this year.

The global warming temperature pause has now extended over 17 years.

Despite this data, the liberal media is going the extra mile to push their global warming scam on the American public.
AOL.com posted this headline earlier this week:

Global warming likely to cause colder and snowier winters, scientists say

Scientists now believe that global warming is to blame for extreme cold snaps in North America during the winter months – and that it will only keep happening.

The “polar vortex” that plunged Canada and the U.S. into historical cold last winter is said by researchers to have occurred because melting polar ice changes weather patterns, according to a study published earlier this month.

A team of Korean and American scientists asserted in a new study that the melting ice causes the northern jet stream (upper level air flow) to shift south and bring polar air with it.

You just can’t make this stuff up.

Comment by real journalists
2014-09-17 15:32:39

warmists gonna warm

 
Comment by "Auntie Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2014-09-17 15:51:53

When ice melts, it absorbs heat. There are a few things about CO2, heat, forests, fire, water, and currents that you should read up on.

Comment by phony scandals
2014-09-17 15:58:48

Follow the money.

Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-09-17 16:10:34

^ Always

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Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2014-09-17 16:29:49

Follow the money.

Then why are you not? Because of propaganda.

Not just Koch brothers: New study reveals funders behind climate change denial effort

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/12/131220154511.htm

A new study conducted by Drexel University environmental sociologist Robert J. Brulle, PhD, exposes the organizational underpinnings and funding behind the powerful climate change countermovement…

…The climate change countermovement is a well-funded and organized effort to undermine public faith in climate science and block action by the U.S. government to regulate emissions. This countermovement involves a large number of organizations, including conservative think tanks, advocacy groups, trade associations and conservative foundations, with strong links to sympathetic media outlets and conservative politicians.

If you want to understand what’s driving this movement, you have to look at what’s going on behind the scenes.

“The climate change countermovement has had a real political and ecological impact on the failure of the world to act on the issue of global warming,” said Brulle. “Like a play on Broadway, the countermovement has stars in the spotlight — often prominent contrarian scientists or conservative politicians — but behind the stars is an organizational structure of directors, script writers and producers, in the form of conservative foundations. If you want to understand what’s driving this movement, you have to look at what’s going on behind the scenes.”

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Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2014-09-17 15:54:03

Scientists now believe that global warming is to blame for extreme cold snaps in North America during the winter months…..You just can’t make this stuff up

It amazes me how Americans think USA is the entire world. Let’s think this through.

Question: What percentage of the globe’s surface area does North America take up?

Answer:: Less than 5%
North America covers an area of about 24,709,000 square kilometers (9,540,000 square miles), about 4.8% of the planet’s surface wiki

Question: Where is most heat stored on earth? Answer: The oceans.

Question: Is global sea level rising or falling? Answer: Rising. Why?

A recent review of the literature [3] suggests that 30% of the sea level rise since 1993 is due to thermal expansion and 55% due to continental ice melt, both resulting from warming global temperatures. In another study,[4] results estimate the heat content of the ocean in the upper 700 meters has increased significantly from 1955-2010. wiki

Question: What percentage of global warming is going into the oceans as opposed to land?

Answer: 93.4% Source IPCC

Question: Can ocean warming possible affect the puny 4.8% of North American landmass?

Answer: Yes, always has, always will

Comment by phony scandals
2014-09-17 23:10:14

“Question: What percentage of global warming is going into the oceans as opposed to land?”

“Answer: 93.4% Source IPCC ”

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“Why would we want to fund a group of folks who are nefarious and give us incorrect information? It’s beyond me.”

U.S. to kill funding for the IPCC?
Posted on February 19, 2011 | 383 Comments

by Judith Curry

Rick Piltz at Climate Science Watch reports that the U.S. House of Representatives votes 244-179 to kill funding for the UN IPCC.

The Republican majority, on a mostly party-line vote of 244-179, went on record as essentially saying that it no longer wishes to have the IPCC prepare its comprehensive international climate science assessments.

A statement from the Congressman who introduced the bill:

Leutkemeyer: The international panel the last year or two has been funded at the rate of about $12.5 million per year. The President has it in his 2012 budget at $13 million a year. This group has been in the headlines for their activities with regard to how they are trying to tinker with the data they put out. Why would we want to fund a group of folks who are nefarious and give us incorrect information? It’s beyond me.

Rick Piltz’s take on this is that “the know-nothings are in the saddle.” As Piltz further notes, “The Senate can put a stop to this.“

Marc Morano at Climate Depot writes a lengthy article on this issue. Apparently Rep. Leutkemeyer read aloud a report of more than 700 dissenting scientists that was prepared by Morano in 2009. An updated version of this report (which includes 1000 dissenting scientists) can be found here.

I rate a paragraph in Morano’s article and report, which he fortunately accompanied with the disclaimer “Note: Curry is not included in the count of dissenting scientists in this report.”

JC’s take: My first question is to wonder about what the $12.5M of U.S. funding actually pays for? Not the science, but presumably publication and distribution costs of the documents, staff to maintain the websites and manage the review process, etc.? What portion of the total IPCC costs does the U.S. support? I have never actually seen a budget before for the IPCC.

judithcurry.com/2011/02/19/u-s-to-kill-funding-for-the-ipcc/ - 551k -

 
 
 
Comment by phony scandals
2014-09-17 15:28:24

I don’t know why this NotSheep guy has his panties in a wad because as we all know…

“What difference – at this point, what difference does it make?”

NotSheep • 15 minutes ago

Libya was the start of ISIS. After Gaddafi launched his African gold dinar initiative the world bank/IMF and USA went on the warpath and started recruiting. They transported extremists from North Africa, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, and anywhere else they could find terrorists to assassinate Gaddafi and destroy Libya. After the no-fly zone and 6000+ bombs dropped supporting this terrorist army they quite literally handed the country over to the extremists to do with it as they want. They looted the Libyan weapon caches, including SARIN GAS, kidnapped young girls, looted the banks, and then moved up through Benghazi (Chris Stevens), across to Turkey, and eventually into Syria. It was in Syria that they ran into their first obstacle, China and Russia vetoed NATO’s second no-fly zone attempt and the Syrian army started pushing the terrorists back to the border. Interestingly enough it was at this point the only thing that would have allowed ISIS to gain ground was either air support, or long range artillery. Which country then started striking Syrian defenses? Israel, with the poorly contrived propaganda “they were about to strike us, and they were about to supply Hamas”. Of course Israel couldn’t just keep striking the Syrians without the planetary sheep catching on so they scaled back their airstrikes. It was at this point that ISIS rampaged across northern Syria, into Iraq, and oh look….Someone was kind enough to leave them an entire fleet of long range artillery pieces and half a billion dollars in hard currency in Mosul. Not to mention the LAV’s, advanced weaponry, drones, helicopters, and munitions. ISIS was created, transported, funded, armed, and trained by NATO at the behest of the world bank/IMF, and USA.

Comment by "Auntie Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2014-09-17 15:56:30

People who behead other people with hand-held knives are psychopaths.

Delusional people are drawn to “important” things that they see going on around them. Schizophrenics and psychopaths both have a tendency to see themselves as the center of something very important. Remember the string of alien abductions that happened in like the 80s or 90s or whenever? I really think that terrorism is similar. The more press it gets, the more crazy people are drawn to it. Now you have white people beheading folks in the name of freaking Islam.

 
 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2014-09-17 16:36:45

IDK people. This is like something I haven’t seen in my lifetime on this scale with a direct hatred aimed at the USA. And we broke it. We should not help fix it?

ISIS fighters tells families “hand over your daughters for sex …
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world…/isis-fighters-tells-families-hand-374543...
Jun 22, 2014 - ISIS fighters are ordering terrified families in Iraq to hand over their … They think the rape of women in this way is some kind of sexual jihad.

ISIS’s Cruelty Toward Women Gets Scant Attention - WSJ …
blogs.wsj.com/…/2014/…/isiss-cruelty-toward-women-gets-scant-attentio…
Sep 2, 2014 - A naked woman, tied to a tree, who had been repeatedly raped by ISIS fighters. Another woman was discovered in a second village, similarly …

Isis persecution of Iraqi Christians has become genocide, say
http://www.theguardian.com › News › World news › Iraq
Aug 8, 2014 - Isis’s persecution of Iraqi Christians, which has already forced tens of … their lives, is fast becoming a genocide, religious leaders have warned.

ISIS action is worse than genocide: Muslim intellectuals …
http://www.thehindu.com › Cities › Delhi

ISIS bans math, social studies for children
CNN ‎- 8 hours ago
(CNN) — In swaths of Syria now controlled by ISIS, children can no longer study math or social studies. Sports are out of the question.
Aug 20, 2014 - Terming the brutalities of the ISIS “worse than genocide”, Shabnam Hashmi from ANHAD told the media during a press conference that Indian .

Comment by Ben Jones
2014-09-17 20:23:24

You neocons started the whole thing. Haven’t you done enough? Oh, lets give the neocons and the Saudi 9/11 backers everything they want after turning the region into a hellhole. What could go wrong? Get your head out of your ass, you so called progressive. This sort of trolling proves ever more what a paid shill you are. I’m thinking it’s ban time. What do you know neocon hack? You’re banned!

 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-09-17 20:29:12

So long Lola. You did it again. Without help from me this time.

 
 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-09-17 17:54:43

What has the gold bugs in a hissy fit today?

Why this September hasn’t been a happy month for gold bugs

September 17, 2014, 4:25 PM ET

Marking the traditional start of gold-buying season in India, it is usually a strong monthfor the yellow metal, but not this time around. On a most-active basis, futures on the yellow metal (GCZ4 -1.06%) is down nearly 5% since the end of August, trimming its year-to-date rebound to around 1.8%, according to FactSet. December gold was down $13.10, or 1.1%, in electronic trade as the dollar surged in the wake of Wednesday’s Federal Reserve statement and news conference by Fed Chairwoman Janet Yellen.

Comment by Selfish Hoarder
2014-09-17 19:13:37

What hissy fit?

Gold is looking better and better?

Suppose house prices dropped 8% in a month. Wouldn’t you be happy?

Gold buyers like me are happy. Keep dropping!

Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-09-17 19:17:50

Falling prices is a good thing.

Comment by Selfish Hoarder
2014-09-17 20:21:15

I keep saying the same thing.

Maybe I’m not a gold bug?

I guess the definition of a gold bug is a trader/investor in gold. I’m neither.

I just stack more bullion with a certain amount of $ worth twice a year. It’s dollar cost averaging.

Home moaners are sooooooooo envious, particularly the FBs who bought in 2006/2007. Dollar cost averaging works for precious metals.

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Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-09-17 20:31:30

Home debtors don’t have buckets of loose cash like us. Hell. They didn’t have a nickel before they got suckered into the depreciating house at a grossly inflated price. They’re just poorer now by orders of magnitude.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2014-09-17 17:58:59

An oligarch…arrested?! Inconceivable! (But not in the US, of course).

http://rt.com/business/188388-yevtushenkov-arrest-bashneft-sistema/

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Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2014-09-17 18:00:27

Abenonomics destroying the Japanese Yen, but the Wall Streeters can use the carry trade to further levitate the no-volume S&P melt-up.

http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/Currency/USDJPY?countrycode=US

 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2014-09-17 18:33:05

If the Scots vote “Yes” for independence tomorrow, will they ban the selling of their sovereign country to foreign oligarchs?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2759286/One-five-house-sales-London-s-exclusive-areas-wealthy-foreign-buyers-fuelling-dire-housing-crisis.html

 
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Comment by Little Al
2014-09-17 20:14:24

Housing can’t rise in value right now. No how, no way.
I’d love to get 5 acres in Bend, Oregon. Let me pick em up for
60K. I mean prime lots within 3 miles of town center.

Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-09-17 20:28:07

Why would it ever? Houses depreciate.

 
Comment by sleepless_near_seattle
2014-09-17 22:36:59

Why Bend?

Why not near Shasta or Redding? Quit following the trendy.

 
 
Comment by Little Al
2014-09-17 20:19:34

Correction, Zillow is already offering deals better than that.

 
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Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-09-17 22:23:29

After predicting a China bubble collapse approximately forever, it is quite amazing to see it taking place right before our very eyes.

 
 
Comment by Little Al
2014-09-17 22:24:43

I’m over half Scottish, and I think what’s the point. The Scots
and English have basically melded, but don’t let either one admit
it. I was almost lynched in Aberdeen for calling them English and
they were blood relations. My last name is from the Isle of Wight
and I’m one eighth Irish. Oh, and my most famous relative is Cornish
so that almost counts as Welsh.

 
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