President Obama: Americans can’t give in to fear on Ebola
President Barack Obama turned his weekly address into a Saturday health class on “what you need to know” about Ebola.
“We can’t give in to hysteria or fear, because that only makes it harder to get people the accurate information they need,” Obama said.
The president urged Americans to keep their Ebola concerns in perspective, noting that only three cases have been diagnosed in a country of 300 million people. He also reminded the public that the virus is not easily transmitted — through direct contact with bodily fluids of “somebody who is already showing symptoms” — and that “we know how to fight this disease.”
He also reiterated his rationale for not restricting travel from West Africa, despite lawmakers and candidates of both parties supporting such action. A ban, he warned, could “actually make the situation worse” by limiting the flow of international aid to the devastated region and motivating people to evade tracking and screening by customs agents.
Today is corn dog at the state fair for my wife and I. Hopefully the Ebola scare will keep the crowds thin….
Housing - I have a hornets nest in my garage. Those store bought sprays don’t work fyi. The hornets appear to be unphased by it. I’m stepping it up to physical removal. I’ve only been stung twice so far.
U.S.-led air strikes in Syria kill 10 civilians: monitor
U.S-led forces which are bombing Islamic State militants in Syria killed ten civilians in two recent air strikes, a group monitoring the violence said on Saturday.
The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said seven civilians were killed when an air strike hit a gas plant near the town of al-Khasham is the eastern Deir al-Zor province on Friday, and three civilians were killed in an air strike on Thursday night in the north east province of al-Hassakah.
“Who’s the douche-nozzle that selected “EbolaLOL” as a handle?”
I am guessing you wouldn’t be happy with my shout out to the Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital employee and partner that weren’t allowed off the boat in Mexico and had to remain under Carnival Quarantine.
Stuck inside these four walls
Sent inside forever
Never seeing no one nice again like you
Mama you, mama you
If I ever get out of here
Thought of giving it all away
To a registered charity
All I need is a pint a day
If I ever get out of here
If we ever get out of here
I had my share. Now I’m more mature and individualistic. I no longer lie to women in order to get them into the sack with me. I go for quality. The implication, RMS, is that I must choose whether to be overtly atheist and individualist or get a lot of cooter. In that case I prefer to be overtly atheist and individualist.
I had a non-marriage relationship with a wonderful gal, but we had a lot of scraps over our differences and it got me thinking sometimes you can be far more lonely when you are not alone.
Comment by rms
2014-10-18 17:34:52
“…sometimes you can be far more lonely when you are not alone.”
+1 I’ll buy into that line.
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-10-18 18:26:13
BiLA: I agree with you, but I followed a different path in my life. I decided that I can keep my own views on religion close to the vest yet accept and enjoy the company of folks who believe otherwise. I have had a far richer life thanks to this compromise with my inner self.
That said, I have yet to take the plunge and join a church as a secret agnostic. I’ve seen too many intellectuals in my wife’s family try to kill themselves, I suspect due to irreconcilable tension between their true selves and the image they need to project in order to get along as church members.
Comment by Selfish Hoarder
2014-10-18 19:01:10
I knew a young man back in the early 90s who confessed to me he’s really an atheist but he goes to church because his wife insists on it.
Personally, I could not do such a thing. I think pretending to be what you are not, particularly with studying a religion and going to the point of trying to fool yourself - well that is very dangerous for one’s own mental health. It is lying to yourself. It is you against yourself.
If backed against a wall by my cousins (who are very religious), I will tell them I’m an atheist. They have not yet asked. I cannot pretend to be anything else. It would be lying. I do not lie.
Comment by Selfish Hoarder
2014-10-18 20:29:22
I decided that I can keep my own views on religion close to the vest yet accept and enjoy the company of folks who believe otherwise.
I just cannot do it. I cannot be with people who speak nonsense. I would seriously become crazy because I would be lying to myself. And I would be lying to others.
There is a neighbor a few buildings away with a home based business - three pickup trucks. I see him out at the garage every now and then. Once he seemed kind of like he was drunk and he brought up the question “do you believe in God?”
Tell me none of your friends every asked you that question. I guess if they always see you in church they would have no need to ask you the question, for it would be silly. But if I say yes, I would be surrounding myself with people who make me feel miserable because they would be doing foolish things that make my stomach turn. Like talking to the air (sometimes with their eyes closed). I cannot accept that. I certainly cannot accept that the armed services promotes the insanity and our very lives depend on them not screwing up the world. They are certainly doing a poor job and only making more hatred toward the U.S.
I have a wife, kids, two dogs and a house…I’m living the dream…
Comment by Selfish Hoarder
2014-10-18 10:49:33
I have a wife, kids, two dogs and a house…I’m living the dream…
This is why collectivism is always a failure and people keep denying it.
We are all different. We all have different values. Some enjoy having government as third partner in their relationships - otherwise known as “marriage,” some enjoy living in a stucco box and paying tons of moolah for it at a cost to their retirement savings and a cost to their mobility. Some enjoy owning pets.
And some, like Bill In LA (er, myself), prefer having his suitcase packed and ready to go, with small square footage of places to live because that means less time housework.
Eventually even I will stay mostly in one community and no longer be a frequent flier. When I stop frequent flying, I know I’m ready to be part of a community and be involved locally, get to know all my neighbors, help out my neighbors when they need help, and so on. That is my goal to work toward. But I still will be an individualistic atheist.
Based on the timing of the last similar ultra-low short rate episode in U.S. financial history (roughly 1933-1948 = 15 years), the current low rate environment might continue for another nine years or so (2008 - 2023).
Of course this is just a ballpark guesstimate based on a data sample of size one.
Forgive me if this is a re-post, but I’d love to hear everyone’s take on this. I know Krugman is a local fave.
Secret Deficit Lovers
Paul Krugman, NYTimes
“What if they balanced the budget and nobody knew or cared?
“O.K., the federal budget hasn’t actually been balanced. But the Congressional Budget Office has tallied up the totals for fiscal 2014, which ran through the end of September, and reports that the deficit plunge of the past several years continues. You still hear politicians ranting about “trillion dollar deficits,” but last year’s deficit was less than half-a-trillion dollars — or, a more meaningful number, just 2.8 percent of G.D.P. — and it’s still falling.
“But what about people who pay a lot of attention to the budget, the self-proclaimed deficit hawks? (Some of us prefer to call them deficit scolds.) They’ve spent the past few years telling us that budget shortfalls are the most important issue facing the nation, that terrible things will happen unless we act to stem the flow of red ink. Are they expressing satisfaction over the fading of that threat?
“Not a chance. Far from celebrating the deficit’s decline, the usual suspects — fiscal-scold think tanks, inside-the-Beltway pundits — seem annoyed by the news. It’s a “false victory,” they declare. “Trillion dollar deficits are coming back,” they warn. And they’re furious with President Obama for saying that it’s time to get past “mindless austerity” and “manufactured crises.” He’s declaring mission accomplished, they say, when he should be making another push for entitlement reform.
“All of which demonstrates a truth that has been apparent for a while, if you have been paying close attention: Deficit scolds actually love big budget deficits, and hate it when those deficits get smaller. Why? Because fears of a fiscal crisis — fears that they feed assiduously — are their best hope of getting what they really want: big cuts in social programs.”
“Deficit scolds actually love big budget deficits, and hate it when those deficits get smaller. Why? Because fears of a fiscal crisis — fears that they feed assiduously — are their best hope of getting what they really want: big cuts in social programs.”
If I wrote the justified response to this tripe, Ben would have to ban me.
The gig is up, Krugman. Even your most devout of followers are beginning to see the light.
I’d feel a lot more comfortable with Krugman’s money printing and love of deficits if he’d provide the slightest hint about how much is enough, how much is too much.
If deficits and debt don’t matter, why do we pay taxes? Just have the central bank print up some cash and use it for what you want?
Look, this whole concept of increasing the money supply to foster prosperity is an ancient concept. The Roman’s understood it. “Hey, people value the currency. So let’s print more currency, thus we get more prosperity!” It’s not new.
It’s got a tremendous allure to politicians - they get to spend (buy votes) freely without any discipline. Is there any downside to it? Well… what’s a little hyperinflation between friends?
So for these “borrow/print your way to prosperity” types, I just have one question: Where does it end? I’ve never seen an answer to that question.
We know borrow/print can have huge downsides resulting in currency debasement and destruction. We know that monetary stimulus can provide a brief spark. We know that there is a tremendous amount of cronyism and revolving-door-ism in the central bank. Politicians love the concept of printed money to spend as they see fit. So: it pays to have a very healthy skepticism about these sorts of policies.
“If deficits and debt don’t matter, why do we pay taxes?”
It’s a lower spending allowance for worker bees than nominal paychecks would indicate. But it is no big deal, as worker bees have no spare time on their hands these days to spend money, anyway.
Notice the decrease in after-tax income for 99%ers is more than fully offset by gains in 1% class members’ wealth and incomes.
Does Krugman recommend never-ending borrowing/printing?
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Comment by Neuromance
2014-10-18 12:52:49
If he’s ever publicly proposed limits, I’d be delighted to see them. The policy makers listen to Krugman and Summers, not least because they’re promising easy prosperity. Those who say prosperity is dependent on stable prices, increasing productivity, and policies which encourage jobs here - well, that stuff is actually hard, and Congress is not up to the job.
So who do they listen to?
It’s understandable of course, but it is a siren song IMHO.
Comment by Oddfellow
2014-10-18 13:17:30
Sounds like he’s anti-deficit when times are good, pro-deficit when times are bad. According to wikipedia,
“[Krugman] argues that while it is necessary to cut debt, it is the worst time to do so in an economy that has just suffered the most severe of financial shocks, and must be done instead when an economy is near full-employment when the private sector can withstand the burden of decreased government spending and austerity. Failure to stimulate the economy either by public or private sectors will only unnecessarily lengthen the current economic depression and make it worse.[106]”
“In September 2003, Krugman published a collection of his columns under the title, The Great Unraveling, about the Bush administration’s economic and foreign policies and the US economy in the early 2000s. His columns argued that the large deficits during that time… were unsustainable in the long run and would eventually generate a major economic crisis. The book was a best-seller.[83][97][98]“
They may not have insurance but they do have available medical care…They just don’t have to pay for it…Ask the family of the uninsured Ebola patient that died…
“The price of caring for Ebola patient Thomas Eric Duncan likely ran into hundreds of thousands of dollars, medical experts said Wednesday..“It looks like charges are about $10,000 per day, but it is probably fair to double that for a case like Ebola,” Schoenvogel said.
Duncan was in the hospital for 10 days.”
ObamaCare has made medical coverage unaffordable for millions. They cannot afford coverage at costs of 3X more than what they used to pay for coverage.
I know of several individuals who would have to pay more than $12000 in (monthly tab plus deductible) before receiving a penny in coverage. $1,000 a month for no benefits is not affordable to many.
Clearly, you don’t understand that.
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Comment by MacBeth
2014-10-18 07:35:44
Oh - and before you trot out the government “write-offs” nonsense that is available to lower income folks….
$500 a month for no coverage is not affordable to millions.
And, also, since when does a “write-off” or voucher or government allowance (or whatever you want to call it) mean that something is affordable?
Comment by scdave
2014-10-18 07:39:35
$1,000 a month for no benefits is not affordable to many ??
Clearly, you don’t understand that ??
Seems like your the one that lacks the understanding…If you can’t afford the health insurance or the deductible, you still can get health care in our medical care system correct ??
Comment by MacBeth
2014-10-18 07:47:35
Yes - you can pay out of pocket AND pay a fine.
That’s what I call care!
Comment by scdave
2014-10-18 08:01:03
Yes - you can pay out of pocket AND pay a fine ??
Whats the saying ?? You can’t get blood out of a turnip…
Just to make it clear where I stand on “free Chit” army…
Should we provide safety nets for our citizens ?? Yes….
Should it be free ?? No
Comment by MacBeth
2014-10-18 08:38:34
I think you close the borders and go broke.
Had we “gone broke” back in 2008, we’d be climbing out of it by now (and perhaps with a decent mission and some needed ethical perspective) rather than continuing our swirl around the drain.
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-10-18 09:21:51
Swirling around the drain is part of the Democratic party campaign platform. The more households they can put into a state of permanent financial disrepair, the more votes the Democratic politicians who promise to be their champions can garner.
Comment by scdave
2014-10-18 09:33:10
Had we “gone broke” back in 2008, we’d be climbing out of it by now ??
I learned through my grandparents & parents what the depression was like…
USA population 1932 = 124,000,000.
USA population 2008 = 304,000,000.
Really…Go broke in 2008 ?? with what maybe 100,000,000. unemployed broke people…Yeah right…Talk is cheap…Experiencing it first hand is a whole other world my friend…
I may not like some of the policies chosen but I would want no part of the alternative that we faced…Quite sure you would not either…
In 2008, Iceland experienced one of the most dramatic crashes any country had ever seen. Since then, its recovery has been just as impressive. Are there lessons to be learned? SPIEGEL went to the island nation to find out.
What should one expect from a country in which the sentence, “What an asshole!” is a compliment? Icelanders say “asshole,” or “rassgat,” when they tousle a child’s hair or greet friends, and they mean it to be friendly.
While trudging through a lava field within view of the Eyjafjallajökull volcano, the guide says: “Iceland is the asshole of the world.” That, too, is a positive statement. It’s also a geological metaphor. In Iceland, which lies on the Mid-Atlantic Ridge and thus on the dividing line of the North American and Eurasian tectonic plates, the earth has a tendency to relieve itself through various geysers, volcanoes and hot springs.
The island, an unlikely geological accident, has existed for some 18 million years, but has only been inhabited for 1,100 years. A pile of lava pushed out of the Atlantic that could eventually disappear again, it’s affectionately called “The Rock” by residents. Icelanders were traditionally fishermen and farmers until they decided to turn their country into a casino for global capital around the turn of the millennium.
But now they have returned to fishing, and gladly talk about their journey back to financial health. SPIEGEL spoke with an investor, a finance minister and a fisherman, in addition to an economist who says apologetically: “Icelanders are just daredevils.” And then there was a sex and knitting expert who says she believes Iceland has “found its way back to itself.”
What happened in Iceland from 2008 to 2011 is regarded as one of the worst financial crises in history. It seems likely that never before had a country managed to amass such great sums of money per capita, only to lose it again in a short period of time. But Iceland, with a population of just 320,000, has also staged what appears to be the fastest recovery on record. Since 2011, the gross domestic product has been on the rise once again, most recently at 2 percent. What’s more, salaries are rising, the national debt is sinking and the government has paid off part of the billions in loans it received in 2008 from the International Monetary Fund ahead of schedule. It’s a sign of confidence.
But how did they do it when others cannot? Can we learn something from Iceland?
The Economist
“At the beginning of the Icelandic Miracle was Germany, “says Ásgeir Jónsson, 43, in his office as he bends over a few diagrams. They all snap downward in the fall of 2008 before showing a gradual climb starting in 2010. But why Germany? Jónsson clearly enjoys the surprise on his guest’s face.
Jónsson was head economist for Kaupthing Bank, one of the three Icelandic banks that leveraged far too much debt and crashed overnight in 2008 following years of unprecedented growth. Billions evaporated instantly while hundreds of thousands of depositors and foreign investors feared they would lose their money. Jónsson’s job disappeared as well; with his newfound free time, he wrote the book “Why Iceland?: How One of the World’s Smallest Counties Became the Meltdown’s Biggest Casualty.”
It was German money, Jónsson says, that flowed the most freely following the liberalization of Icelandic banks in the 1990s. Still today, Germany is the country’s largest creditor, he says. In 2010, German banks had over €20 billion in open claims in Iceland. “Germany has a weakness for Iceland,” says Jónsson, who now works as an economics professor in Reykjavik. “Even Wagner borrowed from our legends for his operas,” he says. In 2012, the number of German tourists to Iceland, with 65,000 visitors, was in third place behind the US and Great Britain.
Iceland’s rapid return to health hinged on a series of measures that Nobel laureate Paul Krugman later referred to as “doing an Iceland.” Krugman, an admirer of Iceland’s dramatic comeback, has recommended a similar policy cocktail for other nations in crisis. The rules are as follows: Allow your ailing banks to collapse; devalue your currency if you have one of your own; introduce capital controls; and try to avoid paying back foreign debts.
That may sound like an extremely self-serving recipe — and it was. Whereas billions of public money was pumped into the banking system in Ireland so that financial institutions could pay back their creditors, Icelanders voted against this route in two separate referenda. They couldn’t see why they should pay for the greed of foreign investors who followed the Siren song of high interest rates to the island nation.
Jónsson only shakes his head wearily when asked if he has a guilty conscience. He claims to have been one of the few who warned of the currency bubble long before it burst. Now, he is excited about the country’s new opportunities, which are remarkably similar to the ones it has always had. “A hard-working populace. A healthy democracy. A high level of education. Tourism. Natural resources, such as wind, hydro-power and geothermal energy. And fisheries. What would we be without the fisheries?”
The Fisherman
A powerful-looking reindeer head with a full rack is mounted on Valli Hoskuldsson’s wall. On a bookshelf below, there are books on risk management and global finance. Hoskuldsson, a large man with a gentle voice, just returned from a 40 day fishing expedition in the Arctic Ocean on a 60-meter trawler, the Reval Viking, during which a couple hundred tons of shrimp and halibut were caught.
He began his career as a fisherman, before Icelandic men suddenly entered the financial sector to become investment advisers. Hoskuldsson himself was hired at a local bank called Glitnir, which went on to suffer billions in losses. “I was one of the guys who foisted loans on people,” says Hoskuldsson. He remembers well the day that a farmer wanted to take out a mortgage worth 10 million kroner (about €65,000) on a 20-year-old piece of farm equipment. “I went to my boss with my doubts. He just said: ‘Give him the money, and if he wants twice as much, give that to him too.’”
Just a month after leaving his job at the bank, Hoskuldsson was hired as a mechanical engineer on a fishing boat. Today, he views the banking job as a mistake motivated by the promise of high bonuses. It’s the way many Icelanders speak of that time: They feel deceived by the country’s elite and their big money, the mechanisms of which they hardly understood.
Today, fisheries are responsible for some 42 percent of Iceland’s exports. Shortly after the crisis, the state opened all of its fishing sites, allowing every citizen to catch and sell up to 650 kilograms (1,433 pounds) per day when fishing is allowed, which has prompted many amateur fishermen to spend evenings and weekends on the water. What could be more Icelandic than a fishing citizenry?
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‘I would want no part of the alternative that we faced’
The question is what do we do now. It isn’t hard to see that the constant, “we saved you all by printing several tons of money and handing it to investment bankers, none of whom went to jail to spare financial innovation”, is really just an invitation to continue with the PTB.
Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you’re always afraid
Comment by scdave
2014-10-18 12:03:19
handing it to investment bankers, none of whom went to jail to spare financial innovation” ??
Like I said Ben, much of what was done I do not agree with…Particularly the criminal prosecution part…
In 2008, Iceland experienced one of the most dramatic crashes any country had ever seen..But Iceland, with a population of just 320,000, has also staged what appears to be the fastest recovery on record ??
320,000 people as compared to 340,000,000…About the size of St Louis….You can hardly call that a country in the same context of the USA…Hell of a lot easier to feed, cloth & shelter 320,000 than it is 340,000,000…
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-10-18 14:16:48
“Hell of a lot easier to feed, cloth & shelter 320,000 than it is 340,000,000…”
Wrong. Did you consider that the 320,000 (or 340,000,000) have to collectively feed themselves, one way or the other?
Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2014-10-19 12:46:12
But Iceland, with a population of just 320,000, has also staged what appears to be the fastest recovery on record.
As predicted right here on the HBB, immediately after it was evident that Iceland was giving a collective eff-you to the global bankster cartel…
And a full 35% of them live in the welfare state of California.
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Comment by MacBeth
2014-10-18 08:43:13
It might be more than 15%. I saw the numbers you posted a week or two ago…I’m not sure they’re accurate. It’s hard to tally numbers in a state so heavily besotted with illegals.
That California Is the most poverty-addled state is no surprise; we spoke about that some time ago.
Colorado = The Next California. I truly do feel bad for native Coloradans.
Comment by MacBeth
2014-10-18 08:49:42
Sorry - misread your post. 35% is a number I can believe…
Comment by In Colorado
2014-10-18 15:04:24
Colorado = The Next California. I truly do feel bad for native Coloradans.
Please pass that around. The fewer people who move here, the better. Current projections are 1% annual population growth. I’d like to see that approach 0%. I’d much prefer everyone move to the south, especially Texas.
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-10-18 16:29:15
“Please pass that around. The fewer people who move here, the better.”
Why is defense not included? The is estimate of the amount unfunded liabilities must involve some sort of calculation involving the Social Security and Medicare trust funds and dedicated taxes. On the other hand, there is no dedicated tax or trust fund for the DoD. Since it’s reasonable to assume that we’re going to have armed forces for as long we have a country, that would have to represent a rather large unfunded liability.
NBC NEWS
Ebola Virus Outbreak
628 STORIES
STORYLINEContinuing coverage of the Ebola outbreak in West Africa
Obama Says Ebola Travel Bans Could Make Things Worse
WASHINGTON - President Barack Obama on Saturday urged Americans to avoid hysteria over Ebola, and played down the idea of travel bans from Ebola-ravaged countries in West Africa, explaining that restrictions could make things worse. Lawmakers this week urged Obama to bar people from Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea from entering the United States. Obama has said he is not philosophically opposed to travel bans, but in his weekly address made it clear that he is not leaning toward them.
“We can’t just cut ourselves off from West Africa,” Obama said, explaining it would make it harder to move health workers and supplies into the region, and would motivate people trying to get out the region to evade screening, making it harder to track cases. “Trying to seal off an entire region of the world - if that were even possible - could actually make the situation worse,” he said. Obama said it would take time to fight the disease, warning “before this is over, we may see more isolated cases here in America.” But he sought to put the disease in perspective, reminding Americans that only three cases have been diagnosed in the country, and that it is not easily contracted. “What we’re seeing now is not an ‘outbreak’ or an ‘epidemic’ of Ebola in America,” he said. “This is a serious disease, but we can’t give in to hysteria or fear.”
“This is a serious disease, but we can’t give in to hysteria or fear.”
We can’t?
Since when?
Seems to me that The Messiah had his own hysterical reaction when he called the Secret Service to the mat, did he not?
Anyone else here notice how fast the Secret Service was held accountable? How fast their “negligence” was dealt with?
And how the IRS is not being held accountable?
Why is that?
Could it be the former is assigned the duty of protecting government, whereas the latter is assigned the duty of redistributing wealth at detriment of the people? (Yet for the benefit of the government, of course.)
Perhaps Krugman ought to take on THAT topic instead.
Well, interestingly, there is an election in about two weeks where people can kinda vote for or against the current regime or at least send a message.
I doubt those in close races or far ahead will be risking bringing up the Ebola incompetence and having it somehow backfire, but some far enough behind may throw it out there as a Hail Mary.
High oil and gas prices mean a huge transfer of Western capital from the advanced countries to a bunch of Middle East potentates, several of whom, most notably Qatar, have dubious records when it comes to the support of extremist Islamic movements.
At $80 a barrel, the money flowing from the oil-consuming to the oil-producing economies of the Middle East plunges by $200billion from an estimated $1trillion.
High oil prices act as a tax on Western consumers, both people buying petrol at the pumps and corporations. As long as the price cuts are passed on rapidly, it should be an enormous boost to the importing countries. It is a form of quantitative easing courtesy of the Gulf states that will lead to a windfall worth hundreds of billions of dollars.
Russian President Vladimir Putin has become the world’s most unlikely environmentalist. According to NATO head Anders Fogh Rasmussen, Putin has been “actively” supporting environmental groups in Europe that oppose hydraulic fracturing, or fracking, that would tap Europe’s supplies of oil and natural gas. These supplies would threaten the cash earned by the Russian economy from oil and gas exports.
Putin, however, seems unable to stop the U.S. fracking revolution. The recent plunge in the price of oil, resulting from increased supply, has done more to undermine Russia’s aggressive stance in the world than all the economic sanctions combined. According to Amy Jaffe, executive director of energy and sustainability at the University of California, Davis, “No one knows better that this is bad news for Russia than the Saudis.”
how’s that obamacare working out for you? real journalists at the new york times report on lucky ducks with obamacare insurance policies but who can’t afford the high deductable:
She’s already had one brain hemorrhage that put her in the ICU for several weeks, and she has a second brain aneurysm that’s being monitored. What would her rates and deductible have been without Obamacare? She wouldn’t have had any insurance at all.
You would think they could throw the brain scan in since Obamacare costs hundreds of billions of dollars more than expected anyway.
Obamacare likely to cost $300 billion more than thought – Congressional Budget Office
Published time: October 14, 2014 18:43
The real cost of Obamacare will be hundreds of billions of dollars more than expected, Republican members of the Senate Budget Committee now say, and will greatly increase the federal deficit during the next decade.
Contrary to claims made by the White House, United States President Barack Obama’s hallmark health care plan will actually have a tremendous toll on the government, GOP members of the SBC committee allege in a new report.
According to an analysis of data received by the Congressional Budget Office, Senate Republican say so-called Obamacare won’t reduce the federal budget deficit by $180 billion by 2019 as predicted, but will actually set the US back another $131 billion in the hole.
The Ebola Panic Panic
Can they quarantine Jeanne Shaheen?
By James Taranto
October 17, 2014
As if Ebola weren’t bad enough, “psychologists are increasingly concerned about another kind of contagion, whose symptoms range from heightened anxiety to avoidance of public places to full-blown hysteria,” the New York Times reports.
There’s a third problem as well. Anxiety over anxiety over Ebola is growing, and in some quarters it has developed into an honest-to-God Ebola panic panic.
Consider a pair of op-ed columns that both appeared this Wednesday. “If you are worried about contracting Ebola, I have two suggestions,” wrote the Washington Post’s Ruth Marcus. “First, stop. Second, get a flu shot.” The suggestion was echoed by the Times’s Frank Bruni: “Do me a favor. Turn away from the ceaseless media coverage of Ebola . . . and answer this: Have you had your flu shot? Are you planning on one?”
No doubt getting a flu shot is a good idea, but have you ever seen an op-ed columnist in a major newspaper—much less two on the same day—devote his space to such banal health advice? Next maybe Charles Krauthammer will advise his readers to brush twice a day or Paul Krugman will pen a jeremiad against those who fail to look both ways before crossing the street.
But of course Marcus’s and Bruni’s advice wasn’t the point, it was the counterpoint. Anxious at the possibility that people were anxious about Ebola, they invoked the flu in an effort to soothe their readers—and themselves.
“You could feel a shiver of panic coursing through the American body politic this week,” writes the Post’s David Ignatius. “President Obama tried to speak calmly to a rattled nation on Wednesday. . . . Listening to the president, you couldn’t help but wonder if he was straining to keep a polarized, fearful country from losing its cool.” Ignatius is employing the rhetorical device known as the “editorial you”—you know, like this.
Ignatius concludes: “The best advice for now is what [Fox News’s Shepard] Smith offered viewers: Don’t panic. And get a flu shot.”
How close is America to an Ebola panic? No closer than it is to an Ebola epidemic, as that Times story makes clear in the second paragraph: “So far, emergency rooms have not been overwhelmed with people afraid that they have caught the Ebola virus, and no one is hiding in the basement and hoarding food. But there is little doubt that the events of the past week have left the public increasingly worried.” To be sure, the claim that “no one is hiding in the basement” is too good to check. But it is quite possibly true or nearly so.
But Salon’s Joan Walsh is afraid. She cites an NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll that finds, in her interpretation, “more good news than bad for the forces of calm and reason”:
Some 56 percent of Americans say the government is prepared to handle Ebola, including 61 percent of Democrats. But that number is flipped on its head when you ask Tea Party voters: 57 percent of them say the government is not prepared, as do 54 percent of rural voters…
The Plum Line’s Greg Sargent makes the excellent point that one big political benefit of Ebola to the GOP is that it gives them a theme with which to nationalize the election and make it about the perceived failures of President Obola—I mean Obama.
NEW YORK (Real Money) — What does it take to form a bottom? Is this the real deal?
We know that ever since the top formed when Alibaba (BABA) came public, pretty much everything that can go wrong has gone wrong. We have had the Ebola scare, the continual advance of ISIS, the collapse in oil, the accentuated slowdown in China, the end of an accommodative policy from the Fed and the recession from Europe, care of German tightfistedness and the sanction war with Russia.
First, I reiterate this is a treacherous market. When we could not hold after the Fed indicated that there is no hurry to raise rates this very weekend, we got a good China export number for September and we even heard peace rumblings in Ukraine. That was the sign that we have more work to do on the downside. And it is work, believe me. We have a genuine sense of panic as some want to get out ahead of others and an overall feeling that something lurks out there we don’t know about.
So, rather than join the panic, let me tell you what can stem it. Unfortunately for many investors, it’s a tough scenario to play out.
First, Ebola must be brought under control. When the lead story in the Wall Street Journal is “Ebola Case Puts Focus on Safeguards,” and the upper right hand corner of the New York Times says “Dallas Nurse Contracts Ebola Virus, Elevating Response and Anxiety,” then we are not going to get any sort of bottom. These stories, from the get-go, read as if we do not know what we are doing as a nation. The fear is so palpable that we have to expect a SARS-like cutback in travel. SARS was contracted airborne, much easier than Ebola. The epicenter of that pandemic was Asia, responsible for 18% of air traffic back then and international volume fell 40%, according to an excellent comparison piece out this morning from Wells Fargo research. The airline stocks fell 25%.
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NOW 10/16/14 Is stock market drop really Ebola-related? Alex Wagner is joined by CNBC’s Tyler Mathisen, who calls the Ebola crisis an “unquantifiable influence” on the stock market.
Jim Cramer says every time we try to get traction and get a rally going, there’s an Ebola story. He says it’s the number one issue to the stock market because it has to do with confidence - confidence in the government and others. Newslook
The Democrats’ midterm prospects took a beating this week as concerns over the Ebola virus and a jittery economy churned up countless grim headlines and darkened an already dissatisfied national mood.
Republicans on Capitol Hill, who have long charged the administration with mismanaging crises, have been quick to pounce on the Ebola issue, saying President Obama’s team has not been aggressive enough in the face of the threat.
Meanwhile, a plummeting stock market has hit the half of the adult population that owns shares directly, or through retirement accounts and other investment vehicles. The stock slide also undercuts the White House’s preferred narrative of an economy that is slowly but surely becoming stronger.
Democrats have defended the White House with vigor, asserting that the Republicans’ strategy has always been to blame Obama for any ill the country suffers during his tenure.
Still, the current spate of high-profile troubles reverberate ominously for the man in the White House and for his party colleagues in competitive midterm races — a dynamic even some Democrats will reluctantly concede.
“It’s a truism that when things go your way, you sometimes get undeserved credit. And when things go against you, you oftentimes can get undeserved blame,” Rep. Peter Welch (D-Vt.) said Thursday. “So there will be an emotional and psychological attachment of blame for the stock market, Ebola, influenza, wild weather.
“It’s politics,” Welch added. “There will be folks who make the argument.”
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I’m just grateful to all the players involved in providing such entertaining political Kabuki theater. It also wasn’t a bad week for the rare and endangered species known as stock market bears.
“‘Our medical experts tell us that the best way to stop this disease is to stop it at its source — before it spreads even wider and becomes even more difficult to contain,’ he said.”
Which means …
“Trying to seal off an entire region of the world — if that were even possible — could actually make the situation worse.”
But four beheadings in the hornets nest in Iraq / Syria is not hysteria, when year to date Saudi Arabia beheaded 59 people and not a hoot from the hysteric American public or the US military power.
I think Hillary’s approach is best - “that’s so yesterday, you know?”
Hillary for President 2016! I’m in. You?
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Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-10-18 09:31:54
She has the aura of inevitability working in her favor. What share of the voters whom God graced with a pair of X chromosomes would pass up the chance to have voted for the first female occupant of the WH? I’m pretty sure my mom and my three sisters would all find this a compelling enough reason to vote for Hitlary. (Though not my wife — God bless her!)
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-10-18 09:32:53
Hitlary Hillary
Dang spell check!
Comment by MacBeth
2014-10-18 10:12:38
LOL
Comment by MacBeth
2014-10-18 10:15:10
Speaking of which…you ever feast on that chestnut, “The Killer Shrews”?
Watchdog: Obama to bring non-American Ebola victims to U.S. for treatment
The president is “actively formulating plans” to admit Ebola-infected non-citizens just to be treated
by Paul Bedard | Washington Examiner | October 18, 2014
While the bipartisan voice grows to ban Ebola victims from entering the United States, a new report claims that President Obama is considering a plan to bring the world’s Ebola patients to the United States to be treated.
Judicial Watch, the conservative public watchdog group, says in a shocking report that the president is “actively formulating plans” to admit Ebola-infected non-citizens just to be treated.
“Specifically, the goal of the administration is to bring Ebola patients into the United States for treatment within the first days of diagnosis,” said the group.
Such a plan would likely cause a political outcry throughout the nation, on edge over the spread of the virus.
Judicial Watch, which probes federal spending and uses federal and administration sources to root out corruption, said it is unclear who would pay for transporting and treating non-Americans.
Luckily for air travelers each and every air liner will most likely be thoroughly disinfected after their ebola trips.
(sarc)
Wiki says:
“The spread of Ebola between people occurs only by direct contact with the blood or body fluids of a person after symptoms have developed. Body fluids that may contain ebola viruses include saliva, mucus, vomit, feces, sweat, tears, breast milk, urine, and semen. Entry points include the nose, mouth, eyes, or open wounds, cuts and abrasions.”
spread of Ebola between people occurs only by direct contact with ??
Medical expert this morning disagreed and suggested that it could become airborne through aerosol release…Said it could remain infectious for a few hours..I guess this Ebola virus does not last long in open air…Linky;
Is there sufficient evidence on Ebola transmission at this point to say whether airborne droplets containing the Ebola virus could result in spread of the disease?
I guess time will tell. But I find it somewhat disturbing that U.S. health care workers contracted the disease while presumably taking recommended precautions to avoid contracting it.
Trying to seal off an entire region of the world — if that were even possible ??
If this contagion hits China, Russia, Pakistan or India one of them will “seal it off” alright…At the end of the day, particularly China, are not the bleeding heart types…When it comes down to “their” national security, one of them will end it real quick…
“If this contagion hits China, Russia, Pakistan or India one of them will “seal it off” alright…”
That’s right. But our our free market politicians see a great opportunity to let in enough Ebola cases to the U.S. so they can demonstrate how they saved us from this dreaded disease. Even with an Ebola Czar on the scene, I am less optimistic we will take adequate precautions to keep Ebola from arriving on our shores.
Give student loans the finger: A new solution to a massive generational outrage
salon.com.feedsportal.com, October 18, 2014
Refusing to pay student loan debt is a similar form of resistance. Perhaps Americans will demand the right to pay back their debts on their own terms rather than those imposed by collection agencies and the Department of Education. All of the 99 percent should join them, whether their debt is from medical expenses, student loans or mortgages.
Because in their eyes taxes ‘belong’ to the government in the first place. OTOH, money voluntarily borrowed from a lender ‘belongs’ to the borrower from the getgo.
Bearish traders contributed to their own misery this week, adding to wagers in the futures market for a decline in 10-year Treasury notes just before prices surged and yields tumbled.
Hedge-fund managers and other large speculators increased what’s known as net-short positions to the most since May, according to data through Oct. 14 that was released today by the U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission. Yields on 10-year notes tumbled as much as 34 basis points to 1.86 percent the next day as investors pushed out expectations for U.S. interest-rate increases until the end of this year.
The number of net-short positions reached 123,168 contracts as of Oct. 14, an increase of 30,839 from the week before, according to the CFTC’s Commitments of Traders report.
As traders rushed to remove bets against Treasuries on Oct. 15, trading volume in the securities through ICAP Plc, the world’s largest interdealer broker, surged that day to the highest on record, with $945.9 billion in U.S. government debt changing hands.
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Treasuries surged, with volatility climbing the most since the “taper tantrum” of 2013, as speculation that slowing global growth may restrain the U.S. economy led traders to raise bets the Federal Reserve will delay interest-rate increases.
Volume climbed to a record high while global yields plunged to all-time lows and the Bank of America Merrill Lynch MOVE index, a gauge of Treasuries volatility, rose by the most since June 2013 when former Fed Chairman Ben S. Bernanke signaled policy makers would begin slowing bond purchases. Benchmark 10-year note yields reversed the largest one-day drop since 2009 after a report that Fed Chair Janet Yellen expressed confidence in the U.S. recovery. A government index next week is forecast to show inflation remains below the central bank’s target.
“The fragility of these risk markets have been revealed to the Fed, and that alone would make them more cautious about their hiking cycle,” said David Ader, head of U.S. government bond strategy at CRT Capital Group LLC in Stamford, Connecticut. “For all the accommodation, global growth is not accelerating.”
U.S. 10-year yields fell nine basis points, or 0.09 percentage point, to 2.20 percent this week in New York, according to Bloomberg Bond Trader prices. The 2.375 percent note due in August 2024 added 3/4, or $7.50 per $1,000 face amount, to 101 18/32.
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Treasurys surged, with benchmark 10-year yields falling the most since March 2009, as a decline in retail sales prompted traders to reduce wagers the Federal Reserve will raise interest rates in 2015.
Rates on federal fund futures show traders betting that the Fed will raise interest rates in December 2015, with chances of an increase in September fading to 32 percent from 46 percent yesterday and 67 percent two months ago, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. The benchmark 10-year yield traded below 2 percent for the first time since June 2013 even as the Fed is forecast to end its quantitative easing this month. A market gauge of inflation expectations fell to the lowest in 15 months while crude oil tumbled in a bear market.
“Everybody is finding something to worry about,” said Robert Tipp, chief investment strategist in Newark, New Jersey for Prudential Financial Inc.’s fixed-income division, which oversees $533 billion in bonds. “People who were concerned an end of QE would lead to a correction of the risk markets are getting their validation.”
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If they really wanted affordable housing, they’d seize tens of millions of middle-, upper-middle- and upper-class houses via eminent domain and then re-distribute.
They could have done this with broad popular support, if they had just seized all the distressed shadow inventory that lenders held off the market for more than some specified time period. Jeez, I could have backed a policy along these lines, because it would have been market-clearing and price-reducing, with a relatively minimal amount of moral hazard. It would have promoted household formation, put millions of properties back into revenue-generating circulation, etc.
I doubt that’s what you were referring to, though.
I agree with that. Had houses been allowed on the market, a great many people would be better off today. Just like Housing Analyst always says.
There’d be plenty of losers, too, especially among the “I have mine, so screw you” crowd.
As a society, we may have been en route (by now) toward becoming a society intent on producing wealth rather than preserving it or siphoning way what is left. But, no.
Why would you need to use eminent domain? Why not just kick out all the deadbeats and put all the empty, defaulted houses back on the market? There is no need to go communistic when simple free market capitalism supported by a rule of law would get the job done.
U.S. requests production plans for Ebola drug ZMapp
By Sharon Begley
NEW YORK Fri Oct 17, 2014 5:47pm EDT
(Reuters) - U.S. officials have asked three advanced biology laboratories to submit plans for producing the experimental Ebola drug ZMapp, which ran out after it was given to a handful of medical workers who contracted the disease in West Africa, government and lab officials said on Friday.
The “task order” issued on Thursday by the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (BARDA) asks that detailed plans, including budgets and timetables, be submitted by Nov. 10.
I watched the re-done The Day the Earth Stood Still last night. The original had an alien threaten to destroy mankind over nuclear bombs. In the new one, it was global warming. One US government person asked the alien, what do you intend for our planet? The alien replied, “your planet?”
Then the alien decides to destroy humans. But the good scientist takes the alien to an even gooder scientist (a nobel prize winner, no less) who tries to convince the alien to stop. “We have to be forced to change. Don’t deny us that opportunity.” Then the now swayed alien tries to stop the destruction of mankind.
The message is not hard to read, of course, as this is all propaganda meant for “popular culture”. Humans and their leaders are on a collision course with self destruction, and only an enlightened outsider and the enlightened elite can see it. The elite convince the outsider to hold humans at the brink of death so that humanity will accept the enlightenment. We’ll all live, but only thanks to the elite and this not so subtle use of force. Force is good. Killing everyone is an option, so you better shape up. You could come away thanking this alien for not killing every person on Earth. And of course the elite are the hero’s.
What ever you think about global warming, this is a pretty sick plot. We can’t be convinced by argument and reason. We can’t make decisions that will improve our lives. Only the few among us, the enlightened can do that. Back to the original movie; whatever happened to those bombs? They are still there, only replaced with new, more sophisticated ones. Are we any further from the brink of nuclear annihilation? We just logged past the longest period of war in US history, and we are told we’ve got 30 years of war ahead. No matter, on to the next threat!
So what about this global warming? Is it any wonder that most people have a hard time taking it seriously? We are kinda concerned with keeping a roof over our heads and what will we do in old age and, hey, don’t you guys fly around in private jets all the time? Did you ride over to this Hollywood gala in a Prius? Doesn’t sortie after sortie of jet-bombers burn a little fuel? What about these global warming confabs you hold every so often? Do you ever do anything? Or do you meet in your expensive suits and wag your finger at everybody, then shuffle off to your 12 course dinner?
Don’t pretend you care about us, you elitist bastards. Don’t stick your thumb in your tuxedo and act like you know more or have the right to kill anyone who disagrees with you. What’s more, there ain’t no space alien gonna come do it for you.
“hey, don’t you guys fly around in private jets all the time? Did you ride over to this Hollywood gala in a Prius? Doesn’t sortie after sortie of jet-bombers burn a little fuel? What about these global warming confabs you hold every so often? Do you ever do anything? Or do you meet in your expensive suits and wag your finger at everybody, then shuffle off to your 12 course dinner?”
Well they’re the “Betters”.
They just know better.
Leonardo DiCaprio Taking “A Long, Long Break”
by The Deadline Team
January 19, 2013 1:30pm
DiCaprio says he plans to use the time to travel and promote environmental awareness. “I would like to improve the world a bit. I will fly around the world doing good for the environment”.
Yeah, lower prices mean you’re all gonna eat gruel. And not owing a vast amount of money is a trap! But Janet Yellen cares about you. She’s going to keep those mean old low prices from doing you in. And she’ll print up the money you can spend 30 years paying back, with interest, out of the goodness of her heart.
‘Yeah, lower prices mean you’re all gonna eat gruel. And not owing a vast amount of money is a trap! But Janet Yellen cares about you. She’s going to keep those mean old low prices from doing you in. And she’ll print up the money you can spend 30 years paying back, with interest, out of the goodness of her heart.’
I liked Tom Cruise’s ‘War of the Worlds’ re-make better. In the future, who has time to check in with Hollywood about destiny? They suffer the same fate as everyone.
All i can say Ben is that I ignore the politics of climate change and follow the science of it closely. The science is undeniable: the natural CO2 level is 250ppm and in less than 100 years mankind has cranked that up to 400ppm. There is no escaping the physics. More CO2 causes heat retention globally and it shifts weather patterns and ocean currents. Evidence of rapid climate shifts are mounting and in 5 to 10 years the change will be so obvious that denying CC will have little or no credibility. 2014 is on track to be the hottest year ever and when it is in the books the so-called “warming pause” will be over.
Evidence of rapid climate shifts are mounting and in 5 to 10 years the change will be so obvious that denying CC will have little or no credibility.
If you want to go about predicting catastrophe, be sure to use a long enough time horizon so that nobody will remember what you said in case the prediction fails to pan out.
Global cooling rather than global warming or “climate change” doomed ancient societies, despite the New York Times’ latest efforts to invent a new global warming alarm. The Times published an article Tuesday claiming “climate change” doomed ancient societies to famine and collapse, but those societies thrived while temperatures were significantly warmer than today. It was only when temperatures cooled that shorter growing seasons and less favorable climate conditions doomed crop production and the food supplies of ancient civilizations.
The Times noted an extreme and prolonged drought lasting up to 300 years decimated crop production in Greece, Israel, Lebanon and Syria. According to the Times, around 1,200 B.C. “A centuries-long drought in the Aegean and Eastern Mediterranean regions, contributed to — if not caused — widespread famine, unrest and ultimately the destruction of many once prosperous cities.”
Ignoring the fact that droughts, crop failures and famines have occurred throughout human history and likely always will, the Times claimed “climate change” must have caused the ancient tragedy.
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‘I ignore the politics of climate change and follow the science of it closely’
I have my opinions on it, but also came to believe the people that are the loudest about it are full of crap. And these treaties are a joke. In 5 years we’ll do this, then another plan.
If these people were really serious, the first thing they’d have to admit is globalism is the biggest cause of pollution. (And I’m not saying that because I oppose globalism, it’s just hard to ignore). Notice how India and China didn’t even go to the latest sham event. I’m not going to say people in India and China should all have to ride bikes, but I am going to point out the air when you see any photos from a Chinese city.
Seriously, Al Gore, if you really believe what you are saying, get rid of the limo and the jets. He creates more pollution in a month than I will in a decade. Who needs to square their rhetoric with reality here? How much pollution does one of our naval groups create when it steams here and there? All I’m saying is there is no seriousness about pollution and the public knows it.
All good points Ben. Unfortunately humans seem to be hardwired to avoid taking action on problems that haven’t fully materialized yet, we live for today and exist paycheck to paycheck. Sometimes humans are good at acting collectively to respond to disasters — but only after the damage has been done.
Actually taking serious action to stop or slow the increasing levels of CO2 is a “you go first” problem. China’s and India’s reluctance is no doubt due to their notions that curtailing emissions will stunt economic growth; but if nothing is done Mumbai and Shanghai face severe seawater inundation and that will stunt growth anyway. Miami is in the same boat — heh — you’ll need a boat to get around…
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Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-10-18 14:18:55
“China’s and India’s reluctance is no doubt due to their notions that curtailing emissions will stunt economic growth;…”
They may also notice the high likelihood that environmentalists will be successful in their efforts to convince the U.S. government that it is time for us to fall on our economic sword, which would play very well into China and India doing nothing.
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-10-18 14:20:35
“…Mumbai and Shanghai face severe seawater inundation…”
Wow — imagine the entire cities of Mumbai and Shanghai underwater. That would truly be catastrophic. I’m surprised nothing is being done to stop this scenario from becoming a certainty in a few decades!
Comment by iftheshoefits
2014-10-18 15:31:49
“…Mumbai and Shanghai face severe seawater inundation…”
Bringing this discussion back home (i.e., to real estate) -
I find it interesting that virtually without exception, the closer a piece of real estate is to the ocean, the higher its price by a significant amount. At the same time, the higher the chance that it will be owned by a coastal dweller, whose politics (looking statistically at the demographics) will tend left of center. This typical owner will thus be more likely than average to agree with the climate alarmists. Aren’t they worried that their properties are going to disappear under the ocean rise, as the alarmists continue to prophesy?
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-10-18 16:32:50
I can’t speak to Shanghai or Mumbai geography, but very little of California coastal real estate would be inundated due to coastal geography that generally features 1000 ft+ elevation within close proximity to the coast. San Diego is a good case in point. I could drive to the beach within 20 minutes from where we live or walk to it in 10 minutes from where I work, but unless sea levels increase by over 300 feet, I should be perfectly fine even if global warming inundates Shanghai, Mumbai, Miami and NOLA.
White House Ebola Czar Was ‘Key Player’ In Solyndra Scandal
2:50 PM 10/17/2014
Alex Griswold
Media Reporter
Ron Klain, the newly appointed White House Ebola response coordinator, was one of the senior White House officials who advised that President Obama should visit solar power company Solyndra in 2011, despite an auditor raising red flags about the company’s finances. (RELATED: Obama Appoints Anti-Ebola Czar, Then Hits Campaign Trail)
According to The Washington Post, Klain was one of the “key players” in the scandal while he worked for Vice President Joe Biden: “Ron Klain, then Biden’s chief of staff, dismissed auditor’s concerns about Solyndra’s solvency, reasoning that all innovative companies come with risk.”
Another Solyndra email, reported by Fox News, indicated that Biden’s office were all fans of Solyndra, and that the staff “about had an orgasm” at the prospect of an Energy Department loan.
Klain, a Democratic operative who also served as chief of staff to Vice President Al Gore, had a hand in pushing for President Obama’s visit to a Solyndra factory in California during the 2010 midterms. ”Sounds like there are some risk factors here — but that’s true of any innovative company that POTUS would visit,” Klain wrote in an email the day before. “It looks like it is OK to me, but if you feel otherwise, let me know.”
In another email to Obama adviser Valerie Jarrett, he again stood up for Solyndra. “The reality is that if POTUS visited 10 such places over the next 10 months, probably a few will be belly-up by election day 2012.”
According to CNN’s Jake Tapper, Klain will report to National Security Advisor Susan Rice and homeland security adviser Lisa Monaco.
I’m sure the right-wing biased Daily Caller will never admit that Tesla paid back its Dept of Energy loan 9 years early. Tesla has been a huge success and it shows that DoE subsidies and loans do have a place in the clean energy marketplace. The success of Tesla has helped the economy more than Solyndra hurt it.
“I’m sure the right-wing biased Daily Caller will never admit that Tesla paid back its Dept of Energy loan 9 years early.”
“One for 33 is better than zero for 33. But not much.”
Tesla praise ignores subsidies’ poor overall performance
6:33 PM 05/24/2013
Tesla Motors has repaid a government loan nine years early.
There’s some crowing about this from Obama administration officials and advocates of “green” energy.
But they might want to muffle their caws. Millions of people and businesses pay back loans early. It cuts their interest costs.
Obama is an enthusiastic backer of electric vehicles, especially ones with big price tags. In addition to the loans subsidizing the $70,000 Teslas, our president, who presents himself as a champion of people of modest means, had his administration pour money into Fisker Automotive, a Finland-based automaker that sells an electric vehicle that starts at $110,000. The government backed $529 million of loans to Fisker. Last month Fisker was supposed to make a payment on the taxpayer money it has received. Fisker failed to make the payment because it’s gone nearly a year without building a car and has laid off nearly its entire workforce.
The Sacramento Bee informs us, “The Department of Energy oversees $34 billion in taxpayer-funded loans for clean energy and other projects, but Tesla, based in Palo Alto, is the only United States car company in the vast portfolio of 33 projects to pay back its loan.”
One for 33 is better than zero for 33. But not much.
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Solyndra Bankruptcy: Solar Panel Company Won’t Pay Back Most Of Its $527 Million Government Loan
The Huffington Post
Posted: 07/30/2012 5:52 pm EDT
Solyndra proved to be a major black eye for Obama last year, when the company went bankrupt following a sizable infusion of taxpayer and private-investor cash. That failure was especially embarrassing for the Obama team because the president had been a vocal supporter of the company in the early days of his administration — in fact, Solyndra was the first company to receive a federal loan under the stimulus program in 2009.
Billionaire George Kaiser, one of Solyndra’s backers, was heavily involved in soliciting donations for Obama’s 2008 presidential campaign. Goldman Sachs, a company that’s not exactly popular with Main Street, also served as Solyndra’s financial adviser.
FYI, for those who had upgraded to FF 33.0, I’m testing a fix to the breakage for the JoshuaTree Extension. I’ll post when I’ve verified it and its available through mozilla.org (though I think it may update automatically)
+1, you have made the blog comments readable again and your place is assured in heaven…just providing a way to filter the comments of the most boring and repetitive man on earth would have been enough THANKYOU!
President Barack Obama on Saturday urged Americans to avoid hysteria over Ebola, and played down the idea of travel bans from Ebola-ravaged countries in West Africa, explaining that restrictions could make things worse.
Lawmakers this week urged Obama to bar people from Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea from entering the United States. Obama has said he is not philosophically opposed to travel bans, but in his weekly address made it clear that he is not leaning toward them.
“We can’t just cut ourselves off from West Africa,” Obama said, explaining it would make it harder to move health workers and supplies into the region, and would motivate people trying to get out the region to evade screening, making it harder to track cases.
Getting the message out A song about Ebola
Oct 17th 2014, 18:34 by The Economist
UNICEF and Liberia’s government have commissioned the track “Ebola is Real” to tell citizens how to protect themselves. The Economist spoke to F.A., the artist behind the song
Connect The Dots Oct 17th, 19:08
I met her in a club down in old Lagos
Where you drink champagne and it tastes just like Coca-cola
C-O-L-A Cola
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She walked up to me and she asked me to dance
I asked her her name and in a dark brown voice she said Ebola
E-B-O-L-A Ebola
la-la-la-la Ebola
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Well I’m not the world’s most compassionate guy
But when I looked in her eyes well I almost fell for Ebola
la-la-la-la Ebola
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Well I’m not dumb but I can’t understand
That I was dead and a week later I was back on land
la la-la-la-la Ebola
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Well that’s the way that I want it to stay
And I always want it to be that way for Ebola
la la-la-la-la Ebola
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Next time I will look with my eyes
and not be so stupid
as to look with my hands. Ebola
la la-la-la-la Ebola
EBOLA.
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Seattle, WA Area Sale Prices Sink 8% YoY
http://www.zillow.com/seattle-wa-98119/home-values/
Where is Sandy?
Utah
President Obama: Americans can’t give in to fear on Ebola
President Barack Obama turned his weekly address into a Saturday health class on “what you need to know” about Ebola.
“We can’t give in to hysteria or fear, because that only makes it harder to get people the accurate information they need,” Obama said.
The president urged Americans to keep their Ebola concerns in perspective, noting that only three cases have been diagnosed in a country of 300 million people. He also reminded the public that the virus is not easily transmitted — through direct contact with bodily fluids of “somebody who is already showing symptoms” — and that “we know how to fight this disease.”
He also reiterated his rationale for not restricting travel from West Africa, despite lawmakers and candidates of both parties supporting such action. A ban, he warned, could “actually make the situation worse” by limiting the flow of international aid to the devastated region and motivating people to evade tracking and screening by customs agents.
http://www.politico.com/story/2014/10/president-obama-ebola-112001.html
“We have nothing to fear but Ebola itself.”
Today is corn dog at the state fair for my wife and I. Hopefully the Ebola scare will keep the crowds thin….
Housing - I have a hornets nest in my garage. Those store bought sprays don’t work fyi. The hornets appear to be unphased by it. I’m stepping it up to physical removal. I’ve only been stung twice so far.
Today is corn dog at the state fair for my wife and I ??
State Fair in October ??
I have a hornets nest in my garage. Those store bought sprays don’t work fyi ??
Hmm…They work very well here…Not sure why it is not working..
“Hopefully the Ebola scare will keep the crowds thin…”
There is always an upside to a panic or a mass delusion if you look for it!
U.S.-led air strikes in Syria kill 10 civilians: monitor
U.S-led forces which are bombing Islamic State militants in Syria killed ten civilians in two recent air strikes, a group monitoring the violence said on Saturday.
The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said seven civilians were killed when an air strike hit a gas plant near the town of al-Khasham is the eastern Deir al-Zor province on Friday, and three civilians were killed in an air strike on Thursday night in the north east province of al-Hassakah.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/18/us-mideast-crisis-syria-strikes-idUSKCN0I70A220141018
Who’s the douche-nozzle that selected “EbolaLOL” as a handle?
That’s beyond contemptible.
“Who’s the douche-nozzle that selected “EbolaLOL” as a handle?”
I am guessing you wouldn’t be happy with my shout out to the Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital employee and partner that weren’t allowed off the boat in Mexico and had to remain under Carnival Quarantine.
Stuck inside these four walls
Sent inside forever
Never seeing no one nice again like you
Mama you, mama you
If I ever get out of here
Thought of giving it all away
To a registered charity
All I need is a pint a day
If I ever get out of here
If we ever get out of here
Paul McCartney & Wings ‘Band on the Run’ (Lyric Video) - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDzhrO5K02c - 467k -
Phony scandals - are you saying that you’re the douche-nozzle?
“Phony scandals - are you saying that you’re the douche-nozzle?”
No, I’m saying don’t get your panties in a wad Grumpy.
Grumpy seems to feel a bit curmudgeonly today.
I’m serving up Ebola cocktails today. Cheers.
After you’re done go gargle with Drano.
I think the CDC recommends booking a cruise on Carnival after handling Ebola cocktails not gargling with Drano.
Ebola Granola. Eat up.
U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time
http://www.usdebtclock.org/ - 106k -
U.S. National Debt Surges $1 Trillion In Just 12 Months …
Submitted by GoldCore on 09/18/2014
The U.S. financial position continues to deteriorate badly and in the last 12 months has increased by over $1 trillion dollars.
The US national debt continues to spiral out of control, seemingly without any plan to ever reign it in.
Fiscal lunacy is alive and well in Washington with ramifications for the dollar and for investors and savers globally.
http://www.zerohedge.com/…onths-%E2%80%A6-meanwhile-fomc-%E2%80%9Ctweaks%E2%80%9D-wording - 123k -
Hold your dollars tight and stay out of debt. You’ll be glad you did.
Have you hugged your cash today?
Cash is king! I’m loving it! Sleeping better by the day!
I’m debt free and religion free (would like to tell that to Dave Ramsey)
“I’m debt free and religion free…”
And cooter free?
And cooter free?
I had my share. Now I’m more mature and individualistic. I no longer lie to women in order to get them into the sack with me. I go for quality. The implication, RMS, is that I must choose whether to be overtly atheist and individualist or get a lot of cooter. In that case I prefer to be overtly atheist and individualist.
I had a non-marriage relationship with a wonderful gal, but we had a lot of scraps over our differences and it got me thinking sometimes you can be far more lonely when you are not alone.
“…sometimes you can be far more lonely when you are not alone.”
+1 I’ll buy into that line.
BiLA: I agree with you, but I followed a different path in my life. I decided that I can keep my own views on religion close to the vest yet accept and enjoy the company of folks who believe otherwise. I have had a far richer life thanks to this compromise with my inner self.
That said, I have yet to take the plunge and join a church as a secret agnostic. I’ve seen too many intellectuals in my wife’s family try to kill themselves, I suspect due to irreconcilable tension between their true selves and the image they need to project in order to get along as church members.
I knew a young man back in the early 90s who confessed to me he’s really an atheist but he goes to church because his wife insists on it.
Personally, I could not do such a thing. I think pretending to be what you are not, particularly with studying a religion and going to the point of trying to fool yourself - well that is very dangerous for one’s own mental health. It is lying to yourself. It is you against yourself.
If backed against a wall by my cousins (who are very religious), I will tell them I’m an atheist. They have not yet asked. I cannot pretend to be anything else. It would be lying. I do not lie.
I decided that I can keep my own views on religion close to the vest yet accept and enjoy the company of folks who believe otherwise.
I just cannot do it. I cannot be with people who speak nonsense. I would seriously become crazy because I would be lying to myself. And I would be lying to others.
There is a neighbor a few buildings away with a home based business - three pickup trucks. I see him out at the garage every now and then. Once he seemed kind of like he was drunk and he brought up the question “do you believe in God?”
Tell me none of your friends every asked you that question. I guess if they always see you in church they would have no need to ask you the question, for it would be silly. But if I say yes, I would be surrounding myself with people who make me feel miserable because they would be doing foolish things that make my stomach turn. Like talking to the air (sometimes with their eyes closed). I cannot accept that. I certainly cannot accept that the armed services promotes the insanity and our very lives depend on them not screwing up the world. They are certainly doing a poor job and only making more hatred toward the U.S.
And wife-free too. I gotta say; you’re leaving the dream brother.
err…living. damn autocorrect
And house free. How good can it get!?
I have a wife, kids, two dogs and a house…I’m living the dream…
This is why collectivism is always a failure and people keep denying it.
We are all different. We all have different values. Some enjoy having government as third partner in their relationships - otherwise known as “marriage,” some enjoy living in a stucco box and paying tons of moolah for it at a cost to their retirement savings and a cost to their mobility. Some enjoy owning pets.
And some, like Bill In LA (er, myself), prefer having his suitcase packed and ready to go, with small square footage of places to live because that means less time housework.
Eventually even I will stay mostly in one community and no longer be a frequent flier. When I stop frequent flying, I know I’m ready to be part of a community and be involved locally, get to know all my neighbors, help out my neighbors when they need help, and so on. That is my goal to work toward. But I still will be an individualistic atheist.
Dump that depreciating shack Dave. You’ll be glad you did.
Sounds like twisted logic to me…
Head on over to treasury dot gov and take a look at the yield curve.
As of 10/17/2014 graph shows the 1 month treasury rate as 0.03% (3 bps) and the 30 year treasury rate as 2.98%.
As long as the powers that be can keep the short term rates close to zero they will do so.
Based on the timing of the last similar ultra-low short rate episode in U.S. financial history (roughly 1933-1948 = 15 years), the current low rate environment might continue for another nine years or so (2008 - 2023).
Of course this is just a ballpark guesstimate based on a data sample of size one.
Nine years and one World War to go.
Forgive me if this is a re-post, but I’d love to hear everyone’s take on this. I know Krugman is a local fave.
Secret Deficit Lovers
Paul Krugman, NYTimes
“What if they balanced the budget and nobody knew or cared?
“O.K., the federal budget hasn’t actually been balanced. But the Congressional Budget Office has tallied up the totals for fiscal 2014, which ran through the end of September, and reports that the deficit plunge of the past several years continues. You still hear politicians ranting about “trillion dollar deficits,” but last year’s deficit was less than half-a-trillion dollars — or, a more meaningful number, just 2.8 percent of G.D.P. — and it’s still falling.
“But what about people who pay a lot of attention to the budget, the self-proclaimed deficit hawks? (Some of us prefer to call them deficit scolds.) They’ve spent the past few years telling us that budget shortfalls are the most important issue facing the nation, that terrible things will happen unless we act to stem the flow of red ink. Are they expressing satisfaction over the fading of that threat?
“Not a chance. Far from celebrating the deficit’s decline, the usual suspects — fiscal-scold think tanks, inside-the-Beltway pundits — seem annoyed by the news. It’s a “false victory,” they declare. “Trillion dollar deficits are coming back,” they warn. And they’re furious with President Obama for saying that it’s time to get past “mindless austerity” and “manufactured crises.” He’s declaring mission accomplished, they say, when he should be making another push for entitlement reform.
“All of which demonstrates a truth that has been apparent for a while, if you have been paying close attention: Deficit scolds actually love big budget deficits, and hate it when those deficits get smaller. Why? Because fears of a fiscal crisis — fears that they feed assiduously — are their best hope of getting what they really want: big cuts in social programs.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/10/opinion/paul-krugman-secret-deficit-lovers.html?src=twr&_r=0
“Deficit scolds actually love big budget deficits, and hate it when those deficits get smaller. Why? Because fears of a fiscal crisis — fears that they feed assiduously — are their best hope of getting what they really want: big cuts in social programs.”
If I wrote the justified response to this tripe, Ben would have to ban me.
The gig is up, Krugman. Even your most devout of followers are beginning to see the light.
I’d feel a lot more comfortable with Krugman’s money printing and love of deficits if he’d provide the slightest hint about how much is enough, how much is too much.
If deficits and debt don’t matter, why do we pay taxes? Just have the central bank print up some cash and use it for what you want?
Look, this whole concept of increasing the money supply to foster prosperity is an ancient concept. The Roman’s understood it. “Hey, people value the currency. So let’s print more currency, thus we get more prosperity!” It’s not new.
It’s got a tremendous allure to politicians - they get to spend (buy votes) freely without any discipline. Is there any downside to it? Well… what’s a little hyperinflation between friends?
So for these “borrow/print your way to prosperity” types, I just have one question: Where does it end? I’ve never seen an answer to that question.
We know borrow/print can have huge downsides resulting in currency debasement and destruction. We know that monetary stimulus can provide a brief spark. We know that there is a tremendous amount of cronyism and revolving-door-ism in the central bank. Politicians love the concept of printed money to spend as they see fit. So: it pays to have a very healthy skepticism about these sorts of policies.
“If deficits and debt don’t matter, why do we pay taxes?”
It’s a lower spending allowance for worker bees than nominal paychecks would indicate. But it is no big deal, as worker bees have no spare time on their hands these days to spend money, anyway.
Notice the decrease in after-tax income for 99%ers is more than fully offset by gains in 1% class members’ wealth and incomes.
Does Krugman recommend never-ending borrowing/printing?
If he’s ever publicly proposed limits, I’d be delighted to see them. The policy makers listen to Krugman and Summers, not least because they’re promising easy prosperity. Those who say prosperity is dependent on stable prices, increasing productivity, and policies which encourage jobs here - well, that stuff is actually hard, and Congress is not up to the job.
So who do they listen to?
It’s understandable of course, but it is a siren song IMHO.
Sounds like he’s anti-deficit when times are good, pro-deficit when times are bad. According to wikipedia,
“[Krugman] argues that while it is necessary to cut debt, it is the worst time to do so in an economy that has just suffered the most severe of financial shocks, and must be done instead when an economy is near full-employment when the private sector can withstand the burden of decreased government spending and austerity. Failure to stimulate the economy either by public or private sectors will only unnecessarily lengthen the current economic depression and make it worse.[106]”
“In September 2003, Krugman published a collection of his columns under the title, The Great Unraveling, about the Bush administration’s economic and foreign policies and the US economy in the early 2000s. His columns argued that the large deficits during that time… were unsustainable in the long run and would eventually generate a major economic crisis. The book was a best-seller.[83][97][98]“
Krugman has been bought out a long time ago . Why did they ever give him a noble prize? He is one economist I don’t trust at all.
Yaking about Krugman is foolish behavior. Now Stop it
That debt clock page….so pretty!
Did you check out the bottom row of “clocks”? Total US unfunded liabilities at $115T.
Those without insurance at 44M+ Ditto with Food stamps. 158M receiving some sort of aid (roughly 49% of the total population, which stands at 319M).
Clearly, if you’re not on the take, you are a fool.
Those without insurance at 44M+ ??
They may not have insurance but they do have available medical care…They just don’t have to pay for it…Ask the family of the uninsured Ebola patient that died…
“The price of caring for Ebola patient Thomas Eric Duncan likely ran into hundreds of thousands of dollars, medical experts said Wednesday..“It looks like charges are about $10,000 per day, but it is probably fair to double that for a case like Ebola,” Schoenvogel said.
Duncan was in the hospital for 10 days.”
If they cannot afford it, they do not have it.
ObamaCare has made medical coverage unaffordable for millions. They cannot afford coverage at costs of 3X more than what they used to pay for coverage.
I know of several individuals who would have to pay more than $12000 in (monthly tab plus deductible) before receiving a penny in coverage. $1,000 a month for no benefits is not affordable to many.
Clearly, you don’t understand that.
Oh - and before you trot out the government “write-offs” nonsense that is available to lower income folks….
$500 a month for no coverage is not affordable to millions.
And, also, since when does a “write-off” or voucher or government allowance (or whatever you want to call it) mean that something is affordable?
$1,000 a month for no benefits is not affordable to many ??
Clearly, you don’t understand that ??
Seems like your the one that lacks the understanding…If you can’t afford the health insurance or the deductible, you still can get health care in our medical care system correct ??
Yes - you can pay out of pocket AND pay a fine.
That’s what I call care!
Yes - you can pay out of pocket AND pay a fine ??
Whats the saying ?? You can’t get blood out of a turnip…
“The price of caring for Ebola patient Thomas Eric Duncan likely ran into hundreds of thousands of dollars, medical experts said Wednesday..“
What was the actual cost? The so-called medical experts will never reveal the true cost figure.
“That debt clock page….so pretty!”
I know, right.
We put it on the TV for Christmas Eve instead of the Yule Log at my house.
All that movement, all those flashing “debt clock” lights…it’s like being on Broadway.
It’s hard to imagine that all the Show Girls in DC are more enamored than me. ‘Tis true, though. Like wide-eyed urchins in a candy shop, they are.
158M receiving some sort of aid (roughly 49% of the total population, which stands at 319M) ??
You cannot have open borders along with a welfare state…It leads to bankruptcy;
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCoQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.heritage.org%2Fresearch%2Fcommentary%2F2007%2F06%2Flook-to-milton-open-borders-and-the-welfare-state&ei=x39CVJP2IeiOiwKc94HABQ&usg=AFQjCNFUjqMJ9M7V_nf4MRtqj-SdqKFlPQ&sig2=xAea-kfEZUf_teFw7Ft-zg
It sure does.
So what do we do about it? Close the borders? That would be racis.
Well;
Option #1. Close borders
Option #2. Go Broke
Chose your medicine…
Just to make it clear where I stand on “free Chit” army…
Should we provide safety nets for our citizens ?? Yes….
Should it be free ?? No
I think you close the borders and go broke.
Had we “gone broke” back in 2008, we’d be climbing out of it by now (and perhaps with a decent mission and some needed ethical perspective) rather than continuing our swirl around the drain.
Swirling around the drain is part of the Democratic party campaign platform. The more households they can put into a state of permanent financial disrepair, the more votes the Democratic politicians who promise to be their champions can garner.
Had we “gone broke” back in 2008, we’d be climbing out of it by now ??
I learned through my grandparents & parents what the depression was like…
USA population 1932 = 124,000,000.
USA population 2008 = 304,000,000.
Really…Go broke in 2008 ?? with what maybe 100,000,000. unemployed broke people…Yeah right…Talk is cheap…Experiencing it first hand is a whole other world my friend…
I may not like some of the policies chosen but I would want no part of the alternative that we faced…Quite sure you would not either…
SPIEGEL
Out of the Abyss: Looking for Lessons in Iceland’s Recovery
By Guido Mingels
Photo Gallery: The Icelandic Miracle Photos
REUTERS
In 2008, Iceland experienced one of the most dramatic crashes any country had ever seen. Since then, its recovery has been just as impressive. Are there lessons to be learned? SPIEGEL went to the island nation to find out.
What should one expect from a country in which the sentence, “What an asshole!” is a compliment? Icelanders say “asshole,” or “rassgat,” when they tousle a child’s hair or greet friends, and they mean it to be friendly.
While trudging through a lava field within view of the Eyjafjallajökull volcano, the guide says: “Iceland is the asshole of the world.” That, too, is a positive statement. It’s also a geological metaphor. In Iceland, which lies on the Mid-Atlantic Ridge and thus on the dividing line of the North American and Eurasian tectonic plates, the earth has a tendency to relieve itself through various geysers, volcanoes and hot springs.
The island, an unlikely geological accident, has existed for some 18 million years, but has only been inhabited for 1,100 years. A pile of lava pushed out of the Atlantic that could eventually disappear again, it’s affectionately called “The Rock” by residents. Icelanders were traditionally fishermen and farmers until they decided to turn their country into a casino for global capital around the turn of the millennium.
But now they have returned to fishing, and gladly talk about their journey back to financial health. SPIEGEL spoke with an investor, a finance minister and a fisherman, in addition to an economist who says apologetically: “Icelanders are just daredevils.” And then there was a sex and knitting expert who says she believes Iceland has “found its way back to itself.”
What happened in Iceland from 2008 to 2011 is regarded as one of the worst financial crises in history. It seems likely that never before had a country managed to amass such great sums of money per capita, only to lose it again in a short period of time. But Iceland, with a population of just 320,000, has also staged what appears to be the fastest recovery on record. Since 2011, the gross domestic product has been on the rise once again, most recently at 2 percent. What’s more, salaries are rising, the national debt is sinking and the government has paid off part of the billions in loans it received in 2008 from the International Monetary Fund ahead of schedule. It’s a sign of confidence.
But how did they do it when others cannot? Can we learn something from Iceland?
The Economist
“At the beginning of the Icelandic Miracle was Germany, “says Ásgeir Jónsson, 43, in his office as he bends over a few diagrams. They all snap downward in the fall of 2008 before showing a gradual climb starting in 2010. But why Germany? Jónsson clearly enjoys the surprise on his guest’s face.
Jónsson was head economist for Kaupthing Bank, one of the three Icelandic banks that leveraged far too much debt and crashed overnight in 2008 following years of unprecedented growth. Billions evaporated instantly while hundreds of thousands of depositors and foreign investors feared they would lose their money. Jónsson’s job disappeared as well; with his newfound free time, he wrote the book “Why Iceland?: How One of the World’s Smallest Counties Became the Meltdown’s Biggest Casualty.”
It was German money, Jónsson says, that flowed the most freely following the liberalization of Icelandic banks in the 1990s. Still today, Germany is the country’s largest creditor, he says. In 2010, German banks had over €20 billion in open claims in Iceland. “Germany has a weakness for Iceland,” says Jónsson, who now works as an economics professor in Reykjavik. “Even Wagner borrowed from our legends for his operas,” he says. In 2012, the number of German tourists to Iceland, with 65,000 visitors, was in third place behind the US and Great Britain.
Iceland’s rapid return to health hinged on a series of measures that Nobel laureate Paul Krugman later referred to as “doing an Iceland.” Krugman, an admirer of Iceland’s dramatic comeback, has recommended a similar policy cocktail for other nations in crisis. The rules are as follows: Allow your ailing banks to collapse; devalue your currency if you have one of your own; introduce capital controls; and try to avoid paying back foreign debts.
That may sound like an extremely self-serving recipe — and it was. Whereas billions of public money was pumped into the banking system in Ireland so that financial institutions could pay back their creditors, Icelanders voted against this route in two separate referenda. They couldn’t see why they should pay for the greed of foreign investors who followed the Siren song of high interest rates to the island nation.
Jónsson only shakes his head wearily when asked if he has a guilty conscience. He claims to have been one of the few who warned of the currency bubble long before it burst. Now, he is excited about the country’s new opportunities, which are remarkably similar to the ones it has always had. “A hard-working populace. A healthy democracy. A high level of education. Tourism. Natural resources, such as wind, hydro-power and geothermal energy. And fisheries. What would we be without the fisheries?”
The Fisherman
A powerful-looking reindeer head with a full rack is mounted on Valli Hoskuldsson’s wall. On a bookshelf below, there are books on risk management and global finance. Hoskuldsson, a large man with a gentle voice, just returned from a 40 day fishing expedition in the Arctic Ocean on a 60-meter trawler, the Reval Viking, during which a couple hundred tons of shrimp and halibut were caught.
He began his career as a fisherman, before Icelandic men suddenly entered the financial sector to become investment advisers. Hoskuldsson himself was hired at a local bank called Glitnir, which went on to suffer billions in losses. “I was one of the guys who foisted loans on people,” says Hoskuldsson. He remembers well the day that a farmer wanted to take out a mortgage worth 10 million kroner (about €65,000) on a 20-year-old piece of farm equipment. “I went to my boss with my doubts. He just said: ‘Give him the money, and if he wants twice as much, give that to him too.’”
Just a month after leaving his job at the bank, Hoskuldsson was hired as a mechanical engineer on a fishing boat. Today, he views the banking job as a mistake motivated by the promise of high bonuses. It’s the way many Icelanders speak of that time: They feel deceived by the country’s elite and their big money, the mechanisms of which they hardly understood.
Today, fisheries are responsible for some 42 percent of Iceland’s exports. Shortly after the crisis, the state opened all of its fishing sites, allowing every citizen to catch and sell up to 650 kilograms (1,433 pounds) per day when fishing is allowed, which has prompted many amateur fishermen to spend evenings and weekends on the water. What could be more Icelandic than a fishing citizenry?
…
‘I would want no part of the alternative that we faced’
The question is what do we do now. It isn’t hard to see that the constant, “we saved you all by printing several tons of money and handing it to investment bankers, none of whom went to jail to spare financial innovation”, is really just an invitation to continue with the PTB.
Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you’re always afraid
handing it to investment bankers, none of whom went to jail to spare financial innovation” ??
Like I said Ben, much of what was done I do not agree with…Particularly the criminal prosecution part…
In 2008, Iceland experienced one of the most dramatic crashes any country had ever seen..But Iceland, with a population of just 320,000, has also staged what appears to be the fastest recovery on record ??
320,000 people as compared to 340,000,000…About the size of St Louis….You can hardly call that a country in the same context of the USA…Hell of a lot easier to feed, cloth & shelter 320,000 than it is 340,000,000…
“Hell of a lot easier to feed, cloth & shelter 320,000 than it is 340,000,000…”
Wrong. Did you consider that the 320,000 (or 340,000,000) have to collectively feed themselves, one way or the other?
But Iceland, with a population of just 320,000, has also staged what appears to be the fastest recovery on record.
As predicted right here on the HBB, immediately after it was evident that Iceland was giving a collective eff-you to the global bankster cartel…
And a full 35% of them live in the welfare state of California.
It might be more than 15%. I saw the numbers you posted a week or two ago…I’m not sure they’re accurate. It’s hard to tally numbers in a state so heavily besotted with illegals.
That California Is the most poverty-addled state is no surprise; we spoke about that some time ago.
Colorado = The Next California. I truly do feel bad for native Coloradans.
Sorry - misread your post. 35% is a number I can believe…
Colorado = The Next California. I truly do feel bad for native Coloradans.
Please pass that around. The fewer people who move here, the better. Current projections are 1% annual population growth. I’d like to see that approach 0%. I’d much prefer everyone move to the south, especially Texas.
“Please pass that around. The fewer people who move here, the better.”
We say the same thing in California.
Total US unfunded liabilities at $115T.
Why is defense not included? The is estimate of the amount unfunded liabilities must involve some sort of calculation involving the Social Security and Medicare trust funds and dedicated taxes. On the other hand, there is no dedicated tax or trust fund for the DoD. Since it’s reasonable to assume that we’re going to have armed forces for as long we have a country, that would have to represent a rather large unfunded liability.
If you think about it: if there is no budget, passed by congress, isn’t everything, all fiscal spending, an unfunded liability?
NBC NEWS
Ebola Virus Outbreak
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STORYLINEContinuing coverage of the Ebola outbreak in West Africa
Obama Says Ebola Travel Bans Could Make Things Worse
WASHINGTON - President Barack Obama on Saturday urged Americans to avoid hysteria over Ebola, and played down the idea of travel bans from Ebola-ravaged countries in West Africa, explaining that restrictions could make things worse. Lawmakers this week urged Obama to bar people from Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea from entering the United States. Obama has said he is not philosophically opposed to travel bans, but in his weekly address made it clear that he is not leaning toward them.
“We can’t just cut ourselves off from West Africa,” Obama said, explaining it would make it harder to move health workers and supplies into the region, and would motivate people trying to get out the region to evade screening, making it harder to track cases. “Trying to seal off an entire region of the world - if that were even possible - could actually make the situation worse,” he said. Obama said it would take time to fight the disease, warning “before this is over, we may see more isolated cases here in America.” But he sought to put the disease in perspective, reminding Americans that only three cases have been diagnosed in the country, and that it is not easily contracted. “What we’re seeing now is not an ‘outbreak’ or an ‘epidemic’ of Ebola in America,” he said. “This is a serious disease, but we can’t give in to hysteria or fear.”
“This is a serious disease, but we can’t give in to hysteria or fear.”
We can’t?
Since when?
Seems to me that The Messiah had his own hysterical reaction when he called the Secret Service to the mat, did he not?
Anyone else here notice how fast the Secret Service was held accountable? How fast their “negligence” was dealt with?
And how the IRS is not being held accountable?
Why is that?
Could it be the former is assigned the duty of protecting government, whereas the latter is assigned the duty of redistributing wealth at detriment of the people? (Yet for the benefit of the government, of course.)
Perhaps Krugman ought to take on THAT topic instead.
Well, interestingly, there is an election in about two weeks where people can kinda vote for or against the current regime or at least send a message.
I doubt those in close races or far ahead will be risking bringing up the Ebola incompetence and having it somehow backfire, but some far enough behind may throw it out there as a Hail Mary.
Sometimes Hail Marys are caught. Ask USC.
When Elliott Gomme needed money for a holiday, like many people he turned to payday lender Wonga.
He needed £120 and says he didn’t have a problem convincing them to lend him cash by saying he worked full-time.
But the 20-year-old admitted lying on his application and told Newsbeat it was “too easy” to be accepted.
He’s now likely to be one of 330,000 people whose debts will be written off after a ruling that Wonga lent money to people who couldn’t repay it.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/29458106
Poor bankers, you’d need a heart of stone not to laugh.
Moral of the story: Don’t invest your loanable funds in outfits with ditzy names like Wonga.
Ping-pong made some cha-ching.
“…it was “too easy” to be accepted.”
+1 Lots-o-cusion in that high interest rate!
First Lady Picks Up Tab After Obama’s Credit Card Denied - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlCyEOUvumQ - 155k - Cached - Similar pages
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His heloc on the White House must have maxed out.
No, he probably just hasn’t paid down his debt balance. It’s called leading by example, I think.
High oil and gas prices mean a huge transfer of Western capital from the advanced countries to a bunch of Middle East potentates, several of whom, most notably Qatar, have dubious records when it comes to the support of extremist Islamic movements.
At $80 a barrel, the money flowing from the oil-consuming to the oil-producing economies of the Middle East plunges by $200billion from an estimated $1trillion.
High oil prices act as a tax on Western consumers, both people buying petrol at the pumps and corporations. As long as the price cuts are passed on rapidly, it should be an enormous boost to the importing countries. It is a form of quantitative easing courtesy of the Gulf states that will lead to a windfall worth hundreds of billions of dollars.
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/comment/article-2794563/alex-brummer-investors-suffer-panic-attack.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
Russian President Vladimir Putin has become the world’s most unlikely environmentalist. According to NATO head Anders Fogh Rasmussen, Putin has been “actively” supporting environmental groups in Europe that oppose hydraulic fracturing, or fracking, that would tap Europe’s supplies of oil and natural gas. These supplies would threaten the cash earned by the Russian economy from oil and gas exports.
Putin, however, seems unable to stop the U.S. fracking revolution. The recent plunge in the price of oil, resulting from increased supply, has done more to undermine Russia’s aggressive stance in the world than all the economic sanctions combined. According to Amy Jaffe, executive director of energy and sustainability at the University of California, Davis, “No one knows better that this is bad news for Russia than the Saudis.”
http://online.barrons.com/articles/75-oil-is-still-on-the-way-1413610766
It’s been an interesting week on all things oil.
Lots of glee expressed by those who hate Big Oil.
Those same people must hate Green Energy, too, for with dropping oil prices, so does need and demand for energy-efficient vehicles and the like.
When energy prices drop, it isn’t just Corporate Evil that takes it on the chin…be careful what you wish for.
I don’t hate Big Oil, but I certainly don’t mind affordable gasoline!
“be careful what you wish for”
Are you a cheap energy scold?
Frankie
The increased price of the USD has more of an impact on oil than fracking - much more.
how’s that obamacare working out for you? real journalists at the new york times report on lucky ducks with obamacare insurance policies but who can’t afford the high deductable:
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/10/18/us/unable-to-meet-the-deductible-or-the-doctor.html?referrer=
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Look at the bright side, she may have contracted Ebola if she could have afforded to go to the hospital for this year’s brain scan.
See, Obolacare saves lives.
“She is skipping this year’s brain scan and hoping for the best.”
“To spend thousands of dollars just making sure it hasn’t grown?” said Ms. Wanderlich, 61. “I don’t have that money.”
“To spend thousands of dollars just making sure it hasn’t grown?” said Ms. Wanderlich, 61. “I don’t have that money.”
Clearly, this woman is a liar. She just refuses to admit that ObamaCare is a raging success.
Note said she “THOUSANDS”. Not tens or hundreds.
This is racis.
She’s already had one brain hemorrhage that put her in the ICU for several weeks, and she has a second brain aneurysm that’s being monitored. What would her rates and deductible have been without Obamacare? She wouldn’t have had any insurance at all.
You would think they could throw the brain scan in since Obamacare costs hundreds of billions of dollars more than expected anyway.
Obamacare likely to cost $300 billion more than thought – Congressional Budget Office
Published time: October 14, 2014 18:43
The real cost of Obamacare will be hundreds of billions of dollars more than expected, Republican members of the Senate Budget Committee now say, and will greatly increase the federal deficit during the next decade.
Contrary to claims made by the White House, United States President Barack Obama’s hallmark health care plan will actually have a tremendous toll on the government, GOP members of the SBC committee allege in a new report.
According to an analysis of data received by the Congressional Budget Office, Senate Republican say so-called Obamacare won’t reduce the federal budget deficit by $180 billion by 2019 as predicted, but will actually set the US back another $131 billion in the hole.
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Is Ebola yet?
The Ebola Panic Panic
Can they quarantine Jeanne Shaheen?
By James Taranto
October 17, 2014
As if Ebola weren’t bad enough, “psychologists are increasingly concerned about another kind of contagion, whose symptoms range from heightened anxiety to avoidance of public places to full-blown hysteria,” the New York Times reports.
There’s a third problem as well. Anxiety over anxiety over Ebola is growing, and in some quarters it has developed into an honest-to-God Ebola panic panic.
Consider a pair of op-ed columns that both appeared this Wednesday. “If you are worried about contracting Ebola, I have two suggestions,” wrote the Washington Post’s Ruth Marcus. “First, stop. Second, get a flu shot.” The suggestion was echoed by the Times’s Frank Bruni: “Do me a favor. Turn away from the ceaseless media coverage of Ebola . . . and answer this: Have you had your flu shot? Are you planning on one?”
No doubt getting a flu shot is a good idea, but have you ever seen an op-ed columnist in a major newspaper—much less two on the same day—devote his space to such banal health advice? Next maybe Charles Krauthammer will advise his readers to brush twice a day or Paul Krugman will pen a jeremiad against those who fail to look both ways before crossing the street.
But of course Marcus’s and Bruni’s advice wasn’t the point, it was the counterpoint. Anxious at the possibility that people were anxious about Ebola, they invoked the flu in an effort to soothe their readers—and themselves.
“You could feel a shiver of panic coursing through the American body politic this week,” writes the Post’s David Ignatius. “President Obama tried to speak calmly to a rattled nation on Wednesday. . . . Listening to the president, you couldn’t help but wonder if he was straining to keep a polarized, fearful country from losing its cool.” Ignatius is employing the rhetorical device known as the “editorial you”—you know, like this.
Ignatius concludes: “The best advice for now is what [Fox News’s Shepard] Smith offered viewers: Don’t panic. And get a flu shot.”
How close is America to an Ebola panic? No closer than it is to an Ebola epidemic, as that Times story makes clear in the second paragraph: “So far, emergency rooms have not been overwhelmed with people afraid that they have caught the Ebola virus, and no one is hiding in the basement and hoarding food. But there is little doubt that the events of the past week have left the public increasingly worried.” To be sure, the claim that “no one is hiding in the basement” is too good to check. But it is quite possibly true or nearly so.
But Salon’s Joan Walsh is afraid. She cites an NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll that finds, in her interpretation, “more good news than bad for the forces of calm and reason”:
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Carnival quarantine
21 days is too long for the American people to pay attention. We need a quicker Ebola. One for the Facebook generation.
Is Wall Street’s Ebola panic over yet?
Who knew Ebola can be cured by moar money printing?
Only in amerika…..
Cramer: 10 Things That Can Stem the Global Panic From Ebola to ISIS
BY Jim Cramer
Oct 14, 2014 | 12:22 PM EDT
NEW YORK (Real Money) — What does it take to form a bottom? Is this the real deal?
We know that ever since the top formed when Alibaba (BABA) came public, pretty much everything that can go wrong has gone wrong. We have had the Ebola scare, the continual advance of ISIS, the collapse in oil, the accentuated slowdown in China, the end of an accommodative policy from the Fed and the recession from Europe, care of German tightfistedness and the sanction war with Russia.
First, I reiterate this is a treacherous market. When we could not hold after the Fed indicated that there is no hurry to raise rates this very weekend, we got a good China export number for September and we even heard peace rumblings in Ukraine. That was the sign that we have more work to do on the downside. And it is work, believe me. We have a genuine sense of panic as some want to get out ahead of others and an overall feeling that something lurks out there we don’t know about.
So, rather than join the panic, let me tell you what can stem it. Unfortunately for many investors, it’s a tough scenario to play out.
First, Ebola must be brought under control. When the lead story in the Wall Street Journal is “Ebola Case Puts Focus on Safeguards,” and the upper right hand corner of the New York Times says “Dallas Nurse Contracts Ebola Virus, Elevating Response and Anxiety,” then we are not going to get any sort of bottom. These stories, from the get-go, read as if we do not know what we are doing as a nation. The fear is so palpable that we have to expect a SARS-like cutback in travel. SARS was contracted airborne, much easier than Ebola. The epicenter of that pandemic was Asia, responsible for 18% of air traffic back then and international volume fell 40%, according to an excellent comparison piece out this morning from Wells Fargo research. The airline stocks fell 25%.
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Playlist Ebola
NOW 10/16/14
Is stock market drop really Ebola-related?
Alex Wagner is joined by CNBC’s Tyler Mathisen, who calls the Ebola crisis an “unquantifiable influence” on the stock market.
Jim Cramer says the #1 issue in the stock market is Ebola
Jim Cramer says every time we try to get traction and get a rally going, there’s an Ebola story. He says it’s the number one issue to the stock market because it has to do with confidence - confidence in the government and others. Newslook
Ebola, Wall Street stock slide deepen ‘14 gloom for Dems
By Mike Lillis and Kevin Cirilli - 10/17/14 06:00 AM EDT
The Democrats’ midterm prospects took a beating this week as concerns over the Ebola virus and a jittery economy churned up countless grim headlines and darkened an already dissatisfied national mood.
Republicans on Capitol Hill, who have long charged the administration with mismanaging crises, have been quick to pounce on the Ebola issue, saying President Obama’s team has not been aggressive enough in the face of the threat.
Meanwhile, a plummeting stock market has hit the half of the adult population that owns shares directly, or through retirement accounts and other investment vehicles. The stock slide also undercuts the White House’s preferred narrative of an economy that is slowly but surely becoming stronger.
Democrats have defended the White House with vigor, asserting that the Republicans’ strategy has always been to blame Obama for any ill the country suffers during his tenure.
Still, the current spate of high-profile troubles reverberate ominously for the man in the White House and for his party colleagues in competitive midterm races — a dynamic even some Democrats will reluctantly concede.
“It’s a truism that when things go your way, you sometimes get undeserved credit. And when things go against you, you oftentimes can get undeserved blame,” Rep. Peter Welch (D-Vt.) said Thursday. “So there will be an emotional and psychological attachment of blame for the stock market, Ebola, influenza, wild weather.
“It’s politics,” Welch added. “There will be folks who make the argument.”
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Who cares, you know?
The NeoCon-Progressive Party took it on the chin on several fronts this week — didya hear about Karl Rove’s lies re: Iraq?
The problem, Whac, is that it is too dang easy to skewer any of these NeoCon-Progressive nabobs. Like shooting fish in a barrel.
I’m just grateful to all the players involved in providing such entertaining political Kabuki theater. It also wasn’t a bad week for the rare and endangered species known as stock market bears.
There certainly is an ‘attachment of blame’ for wild weather. It’s been going on incessantly for over a decade or so now.
Listen to Obama talk about ebola:
“‘Our medical experts tell us that the best way to stop this disease is to stop it at its source — before it spreads even wider and becomes even more difficult to contain,’ he said.”
Which means …
“Trying to seal off an entire region of the world — if that were even possible — could actually make the situation worse.”
A bit of a contradiction here, is it not?
Link:
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-calls-end-ebola-hysteria-110006011.html
But four beheadings in the hornets nest in Iraq / Syria is not hysteria, when year to date Saudi Arabia beheaded 59 people and not a hoot from the hysteric American public or the US military power.
I think Hillary’s approach is best - “that’s so yesterday, you know?”
Hillary for President 2016! I’m in. You?
She has the aura of inevitability working in her favor. What share of the voters whom God graced with a pair of X chromosomes would pass up the chance to have voted for the first female occupant of the WH? I’m pretty sure my mom and my three sisters would all find this a compelling enough reason to vote for Hitlary. (Though not my wife — God bless her!)
HitlaryHillaryDang spell check!
LOL
Speaking of which…you ever feast on that chestnut, “The Killer Shrews”?
Pretty hilarious if you enjoy bad movies!
Obama = Contradiction
Solid but Juicy like a liquid….
Watchdog: Obama to bring non-American Ebola victims to U.S. for treatment
The president is “actively formulating plans” to admit Ebola-infected non-citizens just to be treated
by Paul Bedard | Washington Examiner | October 18, 2014
While the bipartisan voice grows to ban Ebola victims from entering the United States, a new report claims that President Obama is considering a plan to bring the world’s Ebola patients to the United States to be treated.
Judicial Watch, the conservative public watchdog group, says in a shocking report that the president is “actively formulating plans” to admit Ebola-infected non-citizens just to be treated.
“Specifically, the goal of the administration is to bring Ebola patients into the United States for treatment within the first days of diagnosis,” said the group.
Such a plan would likely cause a political outcry throughout the nation, on edge over the spread of the virus.
Judicial Watch, which probes federal spending and uses federal and administration sources to root out corruption, said it is unclear who would pay for transporting and treating non-Americans.
Luckily for air travelers each and every air liner will most likely be thoroughly disinfected after their ebola trips.
(sarc)
Wiki says:
“The spread of Ebola between people occurs only by direct contact with the blood or body fluids of a person after symptoms have developed. Body fluids that may contain ebola viruses include saliva, mucus, vomit, feces, sweat, tears, breast milk, urine, and semen. Entry points include the nose, mouth, eyes, or open wounds, cuts and abrasions.”
Something to think about.
spread of Ebola between people occurs only by direct contact with ??
Medical expert this morning disagreed and suggested that it could become airborne through aerosol release…Said it could remain infectious for a few hours..I guess this Ebola virus does not last long in open air…Linky;
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCgQqQIwAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.globalresearch.ca%2Febola-can-be-transmitted-via-infectious-aerosol-particles-health-workers-need-respirators-not-masks%2F5408022&ei=PHpCVLX_HuiKiwLa2YDQCA&usg=AFQjCNGcMt_fD4I0EIADjCMWB5GqwW_DPA&sig2=xGvRtDu4ROGqY9iUdylTeA&bvm=bv.77648437,d.cGE
Is there sufficient evidence on Ebola transmission at this point to say whether airborne droplets containing the Ebola virus could result in spread of the disease?
I guess time will tell. But I find it somewhat disturbing that U.S. health care workers contracted the disease while presumably taking recommended precautions to avoid contracting it.
Trying to seal off an entire region of the world — if that were even possible ??
If this contagion hits China, Russia, Pakistan or India one of them will “seal it off” alright…At the end of the day, particularly China, are not the bleeding heart types…When it comes down to “their” national security, one of them will end it real quick…
“If this contagion hits China, Russia, Pakistan or India one of them will “seal it off” alright…”
That’s right. But our our free market politicians see a great opportunity to let in enough Ebola cases to the U.S. so they can demonstrate how they saved us from this dreaded disease. Even with an Ebola Czar on the scene, I am less optimistic we will take adequate precautions to keep Ebola from arriving on our shores.
I assume that you know this new Ebola czar is a LAWYER?
Makes sense…bring on a lawyer to head up a national health concern.
Score another victory for The Messiah and his merry band of neocon-progressives.
How do you seal it off?
Give student loans the finger: A new solution to a massive generational outrage
salon.com.feedsportal.com, October 18, 2014
Refusing to pay student loan debt is a similar form of resistance. Perhaps Americans will demand the right to pay back their debts on their own terms rather than those imposed by collection agencies and the Department of Education. All of the 99 percent should join them, whether their debt is from medical expenses, student loans or mortgages.
open original story: salon.com.feedsportal.com
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An even better way to stick it to the “man” is to not take these loans at all. Don’t go into debt. Live within your means.
It would collapse the system.
We have met the enemy and they are us…
So Salon.com once again encourages people to not hold up their end of the bargain. No surprise there.
Does Salon.Com also advocate that everyone stop paying income taxes?
I thought not.
Because in their eyes taxes ‘belong’ to the government in the first place. OTOH, money voluntarily borrowed from a lender ‘belongs’ to the borrower from the getgo.
That all makes perfect sense, does it not?
To a statist, yes.
Have you missed out on the stellar bull market in Treasurys?
Traders Added to Pain by Adding Shorts Before Bond Rally
By Daniel Kruger Oct 17, 2014 1:42 PM PT
Bearish traders contributed to their own misery this week, adding to wagers in the futures market for a decline in 10-year Treasury notes just before prices surged and yields tumbled.
Hedge-fund managers and other large speculators increased what’s known as net-short positions to the most since May, according to data through Oct. 14 that was released today by the U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission. Yields on 10-year notes tumbled as much as 34 basis points to 1.86 percent the next day as investors pushed out expectations for U.S. interest-rate increases until the end of this year.
The number of net-short positions reached 123,168 contracts as of Oct. 14, an increase of 30,839 from the week before, according to the CFTC’s Commitments of Traders report.
As traders rushed to remove bets against Treasuries on Oct. 15, trading volume in the securities through ICAP Plc, the world’s largest interdealer broker, surged that day to the highest on record, with $945.9 billion in U.S. government debt changing hands.
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Nothing like doubling down on a bad bet with massive leverage!
Treasuries Surge Is Most Volatile Since 2013 on Fed Rate Bets
By Susanne Walker Oct 17, 2014 9:00 PM PT
Treasuries surged, with volatility climbing the most since the “taper tantrum” of 2013, as speculation that slowing global growth may restrain the U.S. economy led traders to raise bets the Federal Reserve will delay interest-rate increases.
Volume climbed to a record high while global yields plunged to all-time lows and the Bank of America Merrill Lynch MOVE index, a gauge of Treasuries volatility, rose by the most since June 2013 when former Fed Chairman Ben S. Bernanke signaled policy makers would begin slowing bond purchases. Benchmark 10-year note yields reversed the largest one-day drop since 2009 after a report that Fed Chair Janet Yellen expressed confidence in the U.S. recovery. A government index next week is forecast to show inflation remains below the central bank’s target.
“The fragility of these risk markets have been revealed to the Fed, and that alone would make them more cautious about their hiking cycle,” said David Ader, head of U.S. government bond strategy at CRT Capital Group LLC in Stamford, Connecticut. “For all the accommodation, global growth is not accelerating.”
U.S. 10-year yields fell nine basis points, or 0.09 percentage point, to 2.20 percent this week in New York, according to Bloomberg Bond Trader prices. The 2.375 percent note due in August 2024 added 3/4, or $7.50 per $1,000 face amount, to 101 18/32.
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Treasurys Rally Biggest Since 2009 Amid Fed Capitulation Trade
Wednesday, 15 Oct 2014 03:01 PM
Treasurys surged, with benchmark 10-year yields falling the most since March 2009, as a decline in retail sales prompted traders to reduce wagers the Federal Reserve will raise interest rates in 2015.
Rates on federal fund futures show traders betting that the Fed will raise interest rates in December 2015, with chances of an increase in September fading to 32 percent from 46 percent yesterday and 67 percent two months ago, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. The benchmark 10-year yield traded below 2 percent for the first time since June 2013 even as the Fed is forecast to end its quantitative easing this month. A market gauge of inflation expectations fell to the lowest in 15 months while crude oil tumbled in a bear market.
“Everybody is finding something to worry about,” said Robert Tipp, chief investment strategist in Newark, New Jersey for Prudential Financial Inc.’s fixed-income division, which oversees $533 billion in bonds. “People who were concerned an end of QE would lead to a correction of the risk markets are getting their validation.”
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First Yellen has the nerve to talk about affordable housing. Now they are going on about equality?
Stop stuffing billions in wall streets pockets you freaking hypocrites! Stop hoarding houses and robbing savers!
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/equality-opportunity-worthy-goal-feds-123301497.html
“Stop stuffing billions in wall streets pockets you freaking hypocrites! Stop hoarding houses and robbing savers!”
I’m guessing if you could interview them, FOMC members would fervently deny any connection between Fed policy and the consequences you mention.
The interesting question to me is whether they would believe their own denials…
Just like the housing, inequality will rise further. Guaranteed.
If they really wanted affordable housing, they’d seize tens of millions of middle-, upper-middle- and upper-class houses via eminent domain and then re-distribute.
They could have done this with broad popular support, if they had just seized all the distressed shadow inventory that lenders held off the market for more than some specified time period. Jeez, I could have backed a policy along these lines, because it would have been market-clearing and price-reducing, with a relatively minimal amount of moral hazard. It would have promoted household formation, put millions of properties back into revenue-generating circulation, etc.
I doubt that’s what you were referring to, though.
I agree with that. Had houses been allowed on the market, a great many people would be better off today. Just like Housing Analyst always says.
There’d be plenty of losers, too, especially among the “I have mine, so screw you” crowd.
As a society, we may have been en route (by now) toward becoming a society intent on producing wealth rather than preserving it or siphoning way what is left. But, no.
Why would you need to use eminent domain? Why not just kick out all the deadbeats and put all the empty, defaulted houses back on the market? There is no need to go communistic when simple free market capitalism supported by a rule of law would get the job done.
I think we’re essentially saying the exact same thing, bear.
Egad! Surely you jest.
Sometimes I think you’ve been rendered insane. Let the free market do its thing?
The problem with you, see, is that you’re so yesterday.
3:05 Scientist Working on Gov’t Ebola Drug Joked About Culling …
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Aug 5, 2014 .
U.S. requests production plans for Ebola drug ZMapp
By Sharon Begley
NEW YORK Fri Oct 17, 2014 5:47pm EDT
(Reuters) - U.S. officials have asked three advanced biology laboratories to submit plans for producing the experimental Ebola drug ZMapp, which ran out after it was given to a handful of medical workers who contracted the disease in West Africa, government and lab officials said on Friday.
The “task order” issued on Thursday by the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (BARDA) asks that detailed plans, including budgets and timetables, be submitted by Nov. 10.
http://www.reuters.com/…/10/17/us-health-ebola-usa-zmapp-exclusive-idUSKCN0I624P20141017 - 96k -
I watched the re-done The Day the Earth Stood Still last night. The original had an alien threaten to destroy mankind over nuclear bombs. In the new one, it was global warming. One US government person asked the alien, what do you intend for our planet? The alien replied, “your planet?”
Then the alien decides to destroy humans. But the good scientist takes the alien to an even gooder scientist (a nobel prize winner, no less) who tries to convince the alien to stop. “We have to be forced to change. Don’t deny us that opportunity.” Then the now swayed alien tries to stop the destruction of mankind.
The message is not hard to read, of course, as this is all propaganda meant for “popular culture”. Humans and their leaders are on a collision course with self destruction, and only an enlightened outsider and the enlightened elite can see it. The elite convince the outsider to hold humans at the brink of death so that humanity will accept the enlightenment. We’ll all live, but only thanks to the elite and this not so subtle use of force. Force is good. Killing everyone is an option, so you better shape up. You could come away thanking this alien for not killing every person on Earth. And of course the elite are the hero’s.
What ever you think about global warming, this is a pretty sick plot. We can’t be convinced by argument and reason. We can’t make decisions that will improve our lives. Only the few among us, the enlightened can do that. Back to the original movie; whatever happened to those bombs? They are still there, only replaced with new, more sophisticated ones. Are we any further from the brink of nuclear annihilation? We just logged past the longest period of war in US history, and we are told we’ve got 30 years of war ahead. No matter, on to the next threat!
So what about this global warming? Is it any wonder that most people have a hard time taking it seriously? We are kinda concerned with keeping a roof over our heads and what will we do in old age and, hey, don’t you guys fly around in private jets all the time? Did you ride over to this Hollywood gala in a Prius? Doesn’t sortie after sortie of jet-bombers burn a little fuel? What about these global warming confabs you hold every so often? Do you ever do anything? Or do you meet in your expensive suits and wag your finger at everybody, then shuffle off to your 12 course dinner?
Don’t pretend you care about us, you elitist bastards. Don’t stick your thumb in your tuxedo and act like you know more or have the right to kill anyone who disagrees with you. What’s more, there ain’t no space alien gonna come do it for you.
Smarmy over educated fools. Their hypocrisy is stunning. They own these disastrous outcomes.
“hey, don’t you guys fly around in private jets all the time? Did you ride over to this Hollywood gala in a Prius? Doesn’t sortie after sortie of jet-bombers burn a little fuel? What about these global warming confabs you hold every so often? Do you ever do anything? Or do you meet in your expensive suits and wag your finger at everybody, then shuffle off to your 12 course dinner?”
Well they’re the “Betters”.
They just know better.
Leonardo DiCaprio Taking “A Long, Long Break”
by The Deadline Team
January 19, 2013 1:30pm
DiCaprio says he plans to use the time to travel and promote environmental awareness. “I would like to improve the world a bit. I will fly around the world doing good for the environment”.
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The media, including stuff like movies and TV, are owned by not too many huge corporations. Do you think that’s because it’s so profitable?
Here’s two articles running at yahoo the same time:
‘Why deflation is so scary’
Ooogga!
‘Here’s why renters in America feel trapped’
Boogga!
Yeah, lower prices mean you’re all gonna eat gruel. And not owing a vast amount of money is a trap! But Janet Yellen cares about you. She’s going to keep those mean old low prices from doing you in. And she’ll print up the money you can spend 30 years paying back, with interest, out of the goodness of her heart.
‘Yeah, lower prices mean you’re all gonna eat gruel. And not owing a vast amount of money is a trap! But Janet Yellen cares about you. She’s going to keep those mean old low prices from doing you in. And she’ll print up the money you can spend 30 years paying back, with interest, out of the goodness of her heart.’
Bankers gotta bank.
“Did you ride over to this Hollywood gala in a Prius?”
That’s known as fundraising for environmental elitist causes.
I liked Tom Cruise’s ‘War of the Worlds’ re-make better. In the future, who has time to check in with Hollywood about destiny? They suffer the same fate as everyone.
All i can say Ben is that I ignore the politics of climate change and follow the science of it closely. The science is undeniable: the natural CO2 level is 250ppm and in less than 100 years mankind has cranked that up to 400ppm. There is no escaping the physics. More CO2 causes heat retention globally and it shifts weather patterns and ocean currents. Evidence of rapid climate shifts are mounting and in 5 to 10 years the change will be so obvious that denying CC will have little or no credibility. 2014 is on track to be the hottest year ever and when it is in the books the so-called “warming pause” will be over.
If you want to go about predicting catastrophe, be sure to use a long enough time horizon so that nobody will remember what you said in case the prediction fails to pan out.
Opinion 5/29/2014 @ 12:02PM 13,568 views
Global Cooling, Not Global Warming, Doomed the Ancients
James Taylor
Global cooling rather than global warming or “climate change” doomed ancient societies, despite the New York Times’ latest efforts to invent a new global warming alarm. The Times published an article Tuesday claiming “climate change” doomed ancient societies to famine and collapse, but those societies thrived while temperatures were significantly warmer than today. It was only when temperatures cooled that shorter growing seasons and less favorable climate conditions doomed crop production and the food supplies of ancient civilizations.
The Times noted an extreme and prolonged drought lasting up to 300 years decimated crop production in Greece, Israel, Lebanon and Syria. According to the Times, around 1,200 B.C. “A centuries-long drought in the Aegean and Eastern Mediterranean regions, contributed to — if not caused — widespread famine, unrest and ultimately the destruction of many once prosperous cities.”
Ignoring the fact that droughts, crop failures and famines have occurred throughout human history and likely always will, the Times claimed “climate change” must have caused the ancient tragedy.
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‘I ignore the politics of climate change and follow the science of it closely’
I have my opinions on it, but also came to believe the people that are the loudest about it are full of crap. And these treaties are a joke. In 5 years we’ll do this, then another plan.
If these people were really serious, the first thing they’d have to admit is globalism is the biggest cause of pollution. (And I’m not saying that because I oppose globalism, it’s just hard to ignore). Notice how India and China didn’t even go to the latest sham event. I’m not going to say people in India and China should all have to ride bikes, but I am going to point out the air when you see any photos from a Chinese city.
Seriously, Al Gore, if you really believe what you are saying, get rid of the limo and the jets. He creates more pollution in a month than I will in a decade. Who needs to square their rhetoric with reality here? How much pollution does one of our naval groups create when it steams here and there? All I’m saying is there is no seriousness about pollution and the public knows it.
All good points Ben. Unfortunately humans seem to be hardwired to avoid taking action on problems that haven’t fully materialized yet, we live for today and exist paycheck to paycheck. Sometimes humans are good at acting collectively to respond to disasters — but only after the damage has been done.
Actually taking serious action to stop or slow the increasing levels of CO2 is a “you go first” problem. China’s and India’s reluctance is no doubt due to their notions that curtailing emissions will stunt economic growth; but if nothing is done Mumbai and Shanghai face severe seawater inundation and that will stunt growth anyway. Miami is in the same boat — heh — you’ll need a boat to get around…
“China’s and India’s reluctance is no doubt due to their notions that curtailing emissions will stunt economic growth;…”
They may also notice the high likelihood that environmentalists will be successful in their efforts to convince the U.S. government that it is time for us to fall on our economic sword, which would play very well into China and India doing nothing.
“…Mumbai and Shanghai face severe seawater inundation…”
Wow — imagine the entire cities of Mumbai and Shanghai underwater. That would truly be catastrophic. I’m surprised nothing is being done to stop this scenario from becoming a certainty in a few decades!
“…Mumbai and Shanghai face severe seawater inundation…”
Bringing this discussion back home (i.e., to real estate) -
I find it interesting that virtually without exception, the closer a piece of real estate is to the ocean, the higher its price by a significant amount. At the same time, the higher the chance that it will be owned by a coastal dweller, whose politics (looking statistically at the demographics) will tend left of center. This typical owner will thus be more likely than average to agree with the climate alarmists. Aren’t they worried that their properties are going to disappear under the ocean rise, as the alarmists continue to prophesy?
I can’t speak to Shanghai or Mumbai geography, but very little of California coastal real estate would be inundated due to coastal geography that generally features 1000 ft+ elevation within close proximity to the coast. San Diego is a good case in point. I could drive to the beach within 20 minutes from where we live or walk to it in 10 minutes from where I work, but unless sea levels increase by over 300 feet, I should be perfectly fine even if global warming inundates Shanghai, Mumbai, Miami and NOLA.
White House Ebola Czar Was ‘Key Player’ In Solyndra Scandal
2:50 PM 10/17/2014
Alex Griswold
Media Reporter
Ron Klain, the newly appointed White House Ebola response coordinator, was one of the senior White House officials who advised that President Obama should visit solar power company Solyndra in 2011, despite an auditor raising red flags about the company’s finances. (RELATED: Obama Appoints Anti-Ebola Czar, Then Hits Campaign Trail)
According to The Washington Post, Klain was one of the “key players” in the scandal while he worked for Vice President Joe Biden: “Ron Klain, then Biden’s chief of staff, dismissed auditor’s concerns about Solyndra’s solvency, reasoning that all innovative companies come with risk.”
Another Solyndra email, reported by Fox News, indicated that Biden’s office were all fans of Solyndra, and that the staff “about had an orgasm” at the prospect of an Energy Department loan.
Klain, a Democratic operative who also served as chief of staff to Vice President Al Gore, had a hand in pushing for President Obama’s visit to a Solyndra factory in California during the 2010 midterms. ”Sounds like there are some risk factors here — but that’s true of any innovative company that POTUS would visit,” Klain wrote in an email the day before. “It looks like it is OK to me, but if you feel otherwise, let me know.”
In another email to Obama adviser Valerie Jarrett, he again stood up for Solyndra. “The reality is that if POTUS visited 10 such places over the next 10 months, probably a few will be belly-up by election day 2012.”
According to CNN’s Jake Tapper, Klain will report to National Security Advisor Susan Rice and homeland security adviser Lisa Monaco.
dailycaller.com/…/10/17/white-house-ebola-czar-was-key-player-in-solyndra-scandal/ - 62k
I’m sure the right-wing biased Daily Caller will never admit that Tesla paid back its Dept of Energy loan 9 years early. Tesla has been a huge success and it shows that DoE subsidies and loans do have a place in the clean energy marketplace. The success of Tesla has helped the economy more than Solyndra hurt it.
“I’m sure the right-wing biased Daily Caller will never admit that Tesla paid back its Dept of Energy loan 9 years early.”
“One for 33 is better than zero for 33. But not much.”
Tesla praise ignores subsidies’ poor overall performance
6:33 PM 05/24/2013
Tesla Motors has repaid a government loan nine years early.
There’s some crowing about this from Obama administration officials and advocates of “green” energy.
But they might want to muffle their caws. Millions of people and businesses pay back loans early. It cuts their interest costs.
Obama is an enthusiastic backer of electric vehicles, especially ones with big price tags. In addition to the loans subsidizing the $70,000 Teslas, our president, who presents himself as a champion of people of modest means, had his administration pour money into Fisker Automotive, a Finland-based automaker that sells an electric vehicle that starts at $110,000. The government backed $529 million of loans to Fisker. Last month Fisker was supposed to make a payment on the taxpayer money it has received. Fisker failed to make the payment because it’s gone nearly a year without building a car and has laid off nearly its entire workforce.
The Sacramento Bee informs us, “The Department of Energy oversees $34 billion in taxpayer-funded loans for clean energy and other projects, but Tesla, based in Palo Alto, is the only United States car company in the vast portfolio of 33 projects to pay back its loan.”
One for 33 is better than zero for 33. But not much.
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Solyndra Bankruptcy: Solar Panel Company Won’t Pay Back Most Of Its $527 Million Government Loan
The Huffington Post
Posted: 07/30/2012 5:52 pm EDT
Solyndra proved to be a major black eye for Obama last year, when the company went bankrupt following a sizable infusion of taxpayer and private-investor cash. That failure was especially embarrassing for the Obama team because the president had been a vocal supporter of the company in the early days of his administration — in fact, Solyndra was the first company to receive a federal loan under the stimulus program in 2009.
Billionaire George Kaiser, one of Solyndra’s backers, was heavily involved in soliciting donations for Obama’s 2008 presidential campaign. Goldman Sachs, a company that’s not exactly popular with Main Street, also served as Solyndra’s financial adviser.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…/07/30/solyndra-bankruptcy-government-loan_n_1721043.html - 458k
Typical
I love when the one hit wonder Shills show up for a day.
I love it more for the fact shills and liars get exposed rapidly these days.
FYI, for those who had upgraded to FF 33.0, I’m testing a fix to the breakage for the JoshuaTree Extension. I’ll post when I’ve verified it and its available through mozilla.org (though I think it may update automatically)
Version 2.3.2 is now uploaded to mozilla.org, so should be available later today or tomorrow:
Joshua Tree Extension on mozilla.org
Thank you!
Thank you; it’s indispensable.
+1, you have made the blog comments readable again and your place is assured in heaven…just providing a way to filter the comments of the most boring and repetitive man on earth would have been enough THANKYOU!
Obama: Ebola travel ban could make things worse
by Roberta Rampton | Reuters | October 18, 2014
President Barack Obama on Saturday urged Americans to avoid hysteria over Ebola, and played down the idea of travel bans from Ebola-ravaged countries in West Africa, explaining that restrictions could make things worse.
Lawmakers this week urged Obama to bar people from Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea from entering the United States. Obama has said he is not philosophically opposed to travel bans, but in his weekly address made it clear that he is not leaning toward them.
“We can’t just cut ourselves off from West Africa,” Obama said, explaining it would make it harder to move health workers and supplies into the region, and would motivate people trying to get out the region to evade screening, making it harder to track cases.
Obama has a “kinship with Africa” “somehow” wink, wink
I don’t give a darn about any country.
Getting the message out
A song about Ebola
Oct 17th 2014, 18:34 by The Economist
UNICEF and Liberia’s government have commissioned the track “Ebola is Real” to tell citizens how to protect themselves. The Economist spoke to F.A., the artist behind the song
Connect The Dots Oct 17th, 19:08
I met her in a club down in old Lagos
Where you drink champagne and it tastes just like Coca-cola
C-O-L-A Cola
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She walked up to me and she asked me to dance
I asked her her name and in a dark brown voice she said Ebola
E-B-O-L-A Ebola
la-la-la-la Ebola
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Well I’m not the world’s most compassionate guy
But when I looked in her eyes well I almost fell for Ebola
la-la-la-la Ebola
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Well I’m not dumb but I can’t understand
That I was dead and a week later I was back on land
la la-la-la-la Ebola
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Well that’s the way that I want it to stay
And I always want it to be that way for Ebola
la la-la-la-la Ebola
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Next time I will look with my eyes
and not be so stupid
as to look with my hands. Ebola
la la-la-la-la Ebola
EBOLA.