October 30, 2014

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Comment by AbsoluteBeginner
2014-10-30 03:46:29

Happy pre-Halloween! Ooooh, spooky, spooky housing. Oooooohhh.

Comment by Shillow
2014-10-30 06:32:20

Price cuts are the new black for Halloween. Seeing them accelerate in my area.

 
Comment by "Auntie Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2014-10-30 15:40:03

I’m hungry.

 
 
Comment by 2banana
2014-10-30 04:50:38

Yes - your 401k and private pension will be confiscated…

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National Debt to be $27 Trillion in 10 Years, Says the CBO
New American | 10/16/2014 | Bob Adelmann

There was something for everyone in the release last week by the Congressional Budget Office of its August update and outlook. The federal government’s revenues are expected to top $3 trillion this year for the first time in history, thanks to individual income taxes rising by six percent, payroll taxes by eight percent, and corporate income taxes by 15 percent. Those infatuated with big government are celebrating the event as a reflection of an improving economy resuscitated by government spending and stimulus programs. Small government advocates, on the other hand, are decrying the event by reminding those who will listen that that is $3 trillion extracted from the economy, starving it of much-needed investment capital, consequently making the economy much weaker than it otherwise would be.

The CBO announced that the federal budget deficit for the year will amount to a paltry $506 billion, some $170 billion lower than last year. It noted that: “At 2.9% of gross domestic product (GDP), this year’s deficit will be much smaller than those of recent years (which reached almost 10% of GDP in 2009) and slightly below the average of federal deficits over the past 40 years.” Cue the trumpets from the Left: Despite huge increases in government spending to fight the Great Recession, the economy is now rebounding strongly enough to reduce the deficit substantially.

Unfortunately, the CBO goes on to point out that “later in the coming decade … deficits [will] grow and federal debt [will] climb.” The national debt, according to the CBO, will be $27 trillion in 2024. Cue the trumpets from the Right: We told you so.

The reason for the increasing deficits over time is simple: Government spending is projected to outpace the government’s revenues. Projected outlays for 2014 are estimated to be $3.5 trillion but increase to more than $4.1 trillion in just three years. By 2024, the CBO estimates that government spending will be close to $6 trillion a year and continuing to grow by nearly four percent annually thereafter. With the economy struggling to get back to three-percent annual growth, one can see that this is a race that the economy cannot win.

According to the Russell Sage Foundation, the typical household has seen its net worth decline by more than a third just over the last 10 years, from $88,000 in 2003 to $56,000 today. According to the foundation, most of the damage was done thanks to the Great Recession, which decimated home values and forced millions to walk away from their homes, unable to make their mortgage payments.

With finances in such disastrous shape it’s fair to ask again just how the average American is going to be in any position to pay off his share of the national debt. The answer is, he isn’t. If that’s the case, the next question is, how will the national debt be paid? The answer to that is, it won’t be.

What will it take to end the explosion in government spending, annual deficits, and the national debt? Absent any perceived and potentially successful reining in of government spending, the only other option, according to Robert Romano, writing for Americans for Limited Government, is default:

Comment by Dman
2014-10-30 08:04:55

Or we could just raise taxes on the Koch brothers, the Wal-Mart family, and a hundred other or so people who have managed to amass enough wealth to the point where they own almost half the country.

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-10-30 08:13:58

Wait a minute — are you proposing to raise taxes on 2brony’s employer? That would be BAAAD…

 
Comment by 2banana
2014-10-30 08:15:01

1. The wealthy don’t pay taxes.

2. Even if you confiscated every dime of their wealth - it would just barely make a dent to our national deficit

Comment by Dman
2014-10-30 08:23:18

Then we should take away the tax breaks for oil companies too. I for one am tired of my tax dollars going to a bunch of free sh*t army corporate welfare queens who think they have a right to drill on public land for free.

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Comment by Guillotine Renovator
2014-10-30 12:13:13

“2. Even if you confiscated every dime of their wealth - it would just barely make a dent to our national deficit.”

These are the sorts of desperate lies the 1%’ers feed to 2brony and his ilk in an effort to thwart any sort of movement towards tax reform. The truth is, the 1%’ers could pay off the debt.

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Comment by 2banana
2014-10-30 14:43:36

Liberal are funny. They live in their own dream world and call people liars who want to pop their socialist bubble.

These are the sorts of desperate lies the 1%’ers feed to 2brony and his ilk in an effort to thwart any sort of movement towards tax reform. The truth is, the 1%’ers could pay off the debt.

John Stossel: Tax The Rich? The Rich Don’t Have Enough. Really.

Forbes - John Stossel

Progressives say, if you’re so worried about the deficit, raise taxes! There are lots of rich people around, squandering money. On my show, David Callahan of the group Demos put it this way: “Wealthy Americans who have done so well in the past decade should help get us out.”

But it’s a fantasy to imagine that raising taxes on the rich will solve our deficit problem. If the IRS grabbed 100 percent of income over $1 million, the take would be just $616 billion. That’s only a third of this year’s deficit. Our national debt would continue to explode.

It’s the spending, stupid.

My $616 billion assumption above is absurd. Rich people wouldn’t work if government takes all their earnings.

Maryland created a special “tax on the rich” that legislators said would bring in $106 million. Instead, the state lost $257 million. Some of Maryland’s rich just left the state. When New York state hiked its income tax on millionaires, billionaire Tom Golisano moved to Florida, which has no personal income tax. “[M]y personal income tax last year would’ve been $13,800 a day,” he told us. “Would you like to write a check for $13,800 a day to a state government, as opposed to moving to another state?”

Even Donald Trump, who gets so much wrong, gets this one right. He says of rich people, “They’re international people. Whether they live here or live in a place like Switzerland doesn’t really matter to them.”

We see the folly of trying to raise revenue with high taxes by looking at tax receipts over time. Before 1963, when Reagan rode his horse, every single dollar after $400,000 (in today’s dollars) was taxed at more than 90 percent. And government revenues equaled about 18 percent of gross domestic product. Then the top rate was lowered to 70 percent, then to 50 percent, and then to as low as 30 percent, before it was raised back to 40 percent in the 1990s. Despite those sharp changes, the chart below shows that tax revenue seldom exceeded 20 percent or fell below 17 percent of GDP.

 
Comment by MightyMike
2014-10-30 14:55:45

Your original point had to do with confiscating “every dime of their wealth”. This Stossel excerpt has to do with income, which is a different issue.

 
Comment by 2banana
2014-10-30 15:10:45

Your original point had to do with confiscating “every dime of their wealth”. This Stossel excerpt has to do with income, which is a different issue.

How much wealth do you think you will take of the ultra rich using your communist take it all mentality?

A few houses. Some local bank accounts. Maybe some nice cars.

Their real wealth will be gone overseas before you can do anything about it. Then you can take all their income. That will work for one year.

And oh yeah…

IT DOES NOT EVEN MAKE A DENT IN THE DEFICIT,

It is the insane government spending. You can’t confiscate your way out of it.

 
Comment by MightyMike
2014-10-30 15:15:35

Actually, the big problem is that there is already a vast amount of wealth stashed overseas.

 
Comment by MightyMike
2014-10-30 15:24:59

Another point to consider is that, for about half the people in America, the family home is the largest asset that they own. They’re forced to pay a wealth tax on the value of that asset, the property tax. For most very rich people real estate makes up a small portion of their total assets, thus they only pay wealth taxes on little piece of their wealth.

 
Comment by Guillotine Renovator
2014-10-30 15:47:34

“Your original point had to do with confiscating “every dime of their wealth”. This Stossel excerpt has to do with income, which is a different issue.”

Exactly. 2brony tried to change the argument.

 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-10-30 17:59:37

“…for about half the people in America, the family home is the largest asset that they own. They’re forced to pay a wealth tax on the value of that asset, the property tax.”

No, no, no. Nobody forced them to sign the dotted lines on the mortgage papers.

 
 
 
Comment by Michael Viking
2014-10-30 08:32:55

Why don’t you tax your buddy Buffet, first? He’s always spewing empty bluster about how he doesn’t pay many but should.

Comment by Dman
2014-10-30 08:47:51

I don’t think he would mind being taxed first, as long as all the other Romneyite tax dodgers were right behind him. The carried interest deduction is basically just a handout for money shufflers who like to pretend that they are “job creators.”

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Comment by cactus
2014-10-30 09:50:00

What would government do with the extra money ? pay down the deficit? or spend even more an spend up in even worse shape ?

That’s the big problem its a mad grab for money get as much as you can or the other guy will get it.

 
Comment by oxide
2014-10-30 11:16:02

Dman, it’s too late for taxes. If a company moves $15 million in jobs offshore in order to make an extra $1 million in profit, it will do NO good to raise the tax on that $1 million. It’s much better to bring back the $15 million in jobs, through tarriffs or environmental controls.

Comment by Dman
2014-10-30 13:20:04

Oxide, I’m not talking about businesses that create real jobs. I’m talking about things like the financial industry that take a huge portion of the national income, yet contribute almost nothing.

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Comment by 2banana
2014-10-30 15:12:57

Oxide, I’m not talking about businesses that create real jobs. I’m talking about things like the financial industry that take a huge portion of the national income, yet contribute almost nothing.

Then stop the obama bailouts.

Why has not one banker gone to jail after six years of obama?

FREE JOHN CORZINE!!!!

 
Comment by Guillotine Renovator
2014-10-30 15:48:41

How many bankers went to jail under Bush?

 
Comment by oxide
2014-10-30 17:09:16

Dman, your tax comment was directed at the Koch brothers and Wal-mart. Even if you don’t like them, they at least provide goods and/or services.

A Tobin tax — now you’re talking. Let’s put a sales tax on stocks for the rich like they do on toilet paper for the poor.

 
 
 
 
Comment by cactus
2014-10-30 09:46:51

“the CBO estimates that government spending will be close to $6 trillion a year and continuing to grow by nearly four percent annually thereafter.”

why ? social security ? new spending programs ?

Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-10-30 09:56:24

To keep prices inflated.

 
 
Comment by taxpayers
2014-10-30 13:09:12

already happened in ARGT,POL,PORT and in Hungary

next up Italy,Spain,

 
 
Comment by 2banana
2014-10-30 04:53:35

‘Plunge protection’ behind market’s sudden recovery
nypost.com | October 20, 2014 | By John Crudele

But times change and so does thinking. In recent weeks, we’ve discovered that the CME Group, the exchange in Chicago, has an incentive program under which foreign central banks could buy stock market derivatives like the S&P contracts at a discount.

It’s not that these foreign banks need a break on the price of their trading. But it does show that there is a back-door way — through foreign emissaries — for the Fed and the US government to prop up stocks like Heller suggested, and — maybe — not get caught.

But let me explain about the unknown forces in the market these days. Call it by a nickname — the Plunge Protection Team. Or call it the President’s Working Group on Financial Markets, the official name given to the group when it was formed by President Ronald Reagan after the market turbulence of 1989.

The details of last Wednesday morning are these: At the same time the Dow was off 350 points, the S&P index was down 43.80 points, That was an enormous decline in just 11 minutes of trading and it was an indication that Wall Street was not having a good day.

Then, someone (or something) started buying S&P futures contracts en masse. Twenty-one minutes later, the S&P index had regained 30 of those lost points and was back at 1,861.

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-10-30 06:38:56

You can see it this morning. Dow up sharply for no reason and gold dropping like a rock again today.

Comment by Selfish Hoarder
2014-10-30 20:40:45

Gold is $140 above its 5 year low.

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-10-30 20:47:20

It’s also something like $900 above its 20 year low, no?

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Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-10-30 20:52:44

Oh…just remembered: Wasn’t gold at $1800 just a couple of years back? So now it is off by 33% or so?

History may prove me wrong, but that strikes me as a more relevant price point than either the 5-year or 20-year low.

 
 
 
 
Comment by MightyMike
2014-10-30 07:54:09

They’re doing this to fatten up our 401k accounts before they confiscate them.

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-10-30 08:03:45

Must be time to load up on physical gold and guns!

 
 
Comment by cactus
2014-10-30 09:51:28

It must have been my APA buy ;-)

 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-10-30 12:09:12

Gold >= $1200 / oz and oil >= $80 bbl OR BUST!

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-10-30 12:45:42

Gold has dipped under $1200 now. Time to buy the dip? Who’d've thunk that gold and oil prices would be far more QE-sensitive than stocks or Treasury bonds?

Comment by Selfish Hoarder
2014-10-30 20:25:39

I just keep stacking. And I notice I can stack a higher stack these days compared to 18 months ago. Every few months I go in and buy X amount worth of gold, give or take a few $100 fiats.

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Comment by 2banana
2014-10-30 04:58:36

It’s Coming: $65 Oil
The Atlantic | OCT 28 2014 | DEREK THOMPSON

Gas prices are falling below $3 a gallon across the United States for two big reasons: (1) the world economy is growing slower than we hoped, and (2) global oil production is improving faster than we expected.

“India and China are slowing down,” said Charles K. Ebinger, director of the Energy Security Initiative at Brookings. “The IMF just downgraded Europe’s growth to less than 1 percent, and they’re already quite energy efficient. Brazil’s a problem, too. All around the world there is no great growth story, and expectations are that things will stay that way or get worse.”

There is also unanticipated supply. A few years ago, political turmoil was taking up to 2 million barrels a day off the market. Now production is roaring back in Libya, southern Sudan, Yemen, Nigeria, and even Iraq, and the global price of crude has fallen about 25 percent in the last five months. It’s the same old story: low demand, high supply, etc.

Andrew John Hall, the alleged “God” of oil trading, is predicting $150 barrels within the next five years. But the deeper you dig, the more reasons you find to be down on the price of oil in the near future. “Japan’s announcement that they’re starting two reactors means that there will be less oil import for Japan,” Ebinger said. Second, there are industrial shifts that are reducing oil’s share in the energy market. For example, many U.S. companies are using natural gas rather than petroleum products to power their refineries.

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-10-30 07:12:57

“$65 oil”

It’s almost here already. Oil is already down 25% over a few months, and with the end of QE3, the price cut party is really starting to roll — off by 1.5% already this morning, and poised to plunge below $80 per barrel.

Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-10-30 07:22:10

This is good. Very good.

Remember…. Falling prices of all kinds is positively bullish and good for the economy.

Comment by Blue Skye
2014-10-30 08:13:14

Yes, and It will soon be time to put in the ear plugs as the horrified screams of broken speculators, collapsing lenders and cauterized debt donkeys fills the air.

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Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-10-30 08:15:06

Why would you want to tune out the free entertainment?

Got popcorn?

 
 
 
Comment by In Colorado
2014-10-30 08:50:41

$10/lb beef tenderloin coming? :-)

Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-10-30 09:10:08

Tenderloin $9/# at Costco any time of year.

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Comment by 2banana
2014-10-30 05:01:41

Wow - an actually reasonable article on buying a house.

I would have put in #5: If you can rent the same house for half the price of buying it - then rent it!

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How a Buying a Home Can Come Back to Haunt You
Credit.com - AJ Smith - 10/30/2014

Buying a property is likely the largest financial decision you will make in your life and it’s important to do so thoughtfully. From how much house you can afford to which neighborhood is right for you, it’s important to consider each aspect carefully. Check out the reasons you may regret your decision to buy a home down the road.

1. If You Lose Your Job

Job security should be one of your first thoughts before you purchase a home. If you have reason to believe that you may be out of a job in the foreseeable future, now is probably not the right time. Mortgage lenders are not forgiving on missed payments and it’s a good idea to buy a home only when you are confident in your employment status or ability to afford your monthly mortgage for the future.

2. If You Need to Move — Again

When you make a home purchase, it’s generally a good idea to stay put for at least several years. A buy or rent calculator can help you determine what is the break-even point for you. That’s the number of years when it makes more sense for your net worth to buy instead of continue renting. Buying a property is generally a long-term commitment and probably not for you if you find yourself frequently changing cities. If you have to sell a recently purchased home on short notice it can be difficult to do without absorbing a big loss. Renting may be the better option for you if you find yourself moving more often than staying put.

3. If You’re in an Unstable Relationship

Although many single people buy homes, this is often a decision made with a partner or spouse. If your relationship with the person you’re buying a home with is unstable or the reason you are in a certain area (significant other, family) is not secure, you could face serious buyer’s remorse in the near future.

4. If You Have a Lot of Debt

Whether your debt is of the student loan, credit card or private loan variety, high debt ratios are a sign that you may want to hold off on making such a large financial commitment. If your expenses consume more than 50% of your income each month, you probably can’t secure a mortgage anyways (and even if you do it will likely be at a higher interest rate, which can cost you thousands of dollars over the life of your loan). It’s a good idea to try paying down your debts before buying a home.

Remember, you don’t have to buy a house. If your current personal, financial or employment situation is shaky, you may want to hold off on the purchase for now. Run the numbers to see what’s best for you. Be scared for the right reasons this holiday season – not because you have found yourself in a costly housing situation that isn’t right for you.

Comment by oxide
2014-10-30 06:38:41

I failed all five reasons to not buy.

(yes I wrote that correctly)

Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-10-30 06:44:51

How much did you over pay? 200%? 300%?

 
Comment by Blue Skye
2014-10-30 08:17:37

That is an inexplicable reversal of conviction.

Perhaps the remorse of the convict in debt prison is inevitable.

Comment by oxide
2014-10-30 11:10:09

I’m pretty sure I wrote that in order to NOT be a reversal of conviction.

And you know, I’m not in debt “prison.” Yes I have debt but I am very solvent. To me, the scariest debt prison is to be 75 with only retirement income to draw upon .. and to have to pay rent every month.

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Comment by Blue Skye
2014-10-30 12:21:07

Thank goodness, I feared you had lost both job and partner and also the cat in one fateful swoop. I forgive your clumsy entendre.

That said, the equity in your house is more like a vapor than a solvent, and the debt rather more concrete. As for renting at age 75, that is not a bad option when you no longer feel like climbing ladders and such and have accumulated enough money to rent til you’re 150 simply by not purchasing with a mortgage during the biggest real estate bubble in history.

My dad lost 50% on his mortgaged house in 1960 and the shock of that stayed with him his whole life. He was very happy to rent in his 70s. In fact, he used all that extra money to travel around the world. Hardly a prison. He was really good at math.

 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-10-30 13:54:30

“I am very solvent.”

Prove it.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-10-30 05:08:07

Now that QE3 is on hold, ru gonna buy the dip in stox, gold and housing?

Comment by Jingle Male
2014-10-30 05:54:35

Already did……so 2008.

Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-10-30 05:57:38

And now look at you. Neck deep in debt on depreciating junk with no exit in sight.

 
Comment by Get Stucco
2014-10-30 06:13:52

Got another chance dead ahead!

 
Comment by Shillow
2014-10-30 06:34:30

Please continue to tell us of your losses liquidating your crapshacks.

 
 
 
Comment by 2banana
2014-10-30 05:14:39

Environmentalist are hard core socialists. They think far left wing big government politics will save the environment so they are doing ‘God’s Work.” And anyone who opposed them are evil and must be destroyed.

I learned my lesson with them. I was a member of several prominent environmental groups. They were all pro-immigration and pro-amnesty and supported every left wing wacko politician.

I couldn’t understand it. We actually have zero growth in population in America. Literally, if we stopped all immigration we would not have to build another single house or bulldoze another wooded lot.

You would think environmentalists would be the most anti-immigration people you could find in order to save the environment in America. You would be wrong. They care nothing about the environment. It is all about power.

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Environmentalists: The World Could Use A Good Pandemic Or War
Townhall.com | October 30, 2014 | Derek Hunter

In the late 1960s through the 1970s, there was a panic that the Earth’s population, if not controlled, would lead to mass food shortages, water shortages, death, wars and the end of civilization as it existed. But much like the “global cooling” movement during the same period, it was proven to be horribly, horribly wrong.

The book “The Population Bomb,” published in 1968, warned that by the 1980s there would be massive upheaval and starvation because of overpopulation.

The 80s came and went, and even though the Earth’s population has nearly doubled, from 4 billion in 1974 to 7 billion now, humans have managed to survive.

But, as is often the case with the climate change movement, everything old is new again. Not even the faces change. John Holdren was once a prominent global cooling cautioner. Now, he touts the dangers of global warming while working as President Obama’s science advisor.

Newsweek, which, in 1975, warned the world of “global cooling,” and an impending ice age, is back with a new warning – the planet’s population is growing so fast, and is so unsustainable, that even a major pandemic or war won’t be enough to save us from the coming disaster to the environment overpopulation will cause.

The piece, entitled “Even a Pandemic Wouldn’t Create a ‘Sustainable’ Population, Study Says,” starts off with the popular environmental mantra of science – where not proof but majority vote wins out. The first paragraph reads:

Environmental scientists generally agree that the growth rate of the world’s human population and its current rate of consumption are unsustainable. For that reason, many researchers and policy-makers have called for family planning and birth control to slow growth in various countries.

The cure? Population control, naturally. Their example? China.

Again, in the very next paragraph, Newsweek writes:

A good example is China’s one-child policy. Beginning in 1979, families in China were largely limited to a single child. That policy was extremely controversial and helped lead to a gender imbalance in Chinese society, but it also helped avert 400 million births.

China didn’t “avert 400 million births,” it performed 400 million forced abortions. And the “gender imbalance” so casually referenced there wasn’t “helped” along by this policy, it was the direct result of it. Girls are aborted routinely in China because families want boys.

So what did they study? Well, in one scenario “the researchers tested what would happen if 2 billion people died over the course of a five-year period in the mid-21st century, for example by a war or pandemic.” Sadly, the researchers estimated the world’s population still would increase to 8.5 billion by the end of the century. Plagues and wars, it would seem, aren’t what they used to be.

Comment by real journalists
2014-10-30 06:22:46

Infinite growth is not possible in a finite ecosystem

And now back to your regularly scheduled Drudge links.

Comment by Shillow
2014-10-30 08:03:35

The universe is our ecosystem. There is no proof that it is finite.

These go to eleven.

 
 
 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-10-30 05:18:42

Craters. Craters forming everywhere.

 
Comment by palmetto
2014-10-30 05:41:05

Just as I predicted, it’ll be JEB! vs Hillary 2016.

http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politics/2014/10/30/speaking-in-co-jeb-bush-makes-appeal-to-hispanics-takes-swipe-at-hillary/

Beam me up, Scotty. The really sick part of this is that JEB! might actually be able to win this thing.

Comment by 2banana
2014-10-30 06:28:19

Let’s see:

Hillary will not get the black vote like obama and most people hate her.

Jeb speaks fluent spanish and has a Mexican wife. Hola new hispanic voters…

I just wonder if Jeb can blame obama for the first 6 years of his administration if anything goes wrong…

And also rack up more debt than every previous administration combined and accounting for inflation…

Well, in any case, if there are laws he does not like he can just ignore them and for laws he wants he has EO and “a phone and a pen.” Obama showed us the way.

And I can’t wait for the IRS investigation of liberal groups to start. Where to start???

And exemptions from laws for political favored groups.

It is going to be fun. And the best thing is that liberal/democrats/socialists will not be able to complain about Jeb doing an “obama”

 
Comment by Shillow
2014-10-30 06:35:44

All this Jeb talk is leftist wishful thinking. He has no traction with R voters. None.

Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-10-30 06:46:51

On a more immediate basis, the lying libtards are gonna lose there ass this election. :mrgreen:

Comment by Shillow
2014-10-30 07:34:34

New Senate Committee chairs will be interesting.

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Comment by phony scandals
2014-10-30 05:41:34

Once again here is the link with your “proof”.

http://www.robesonian.com/news/home_top-news/50549272/2-accused-in-murder-try - 92k -

Comment by Oddfellow
2014-10-28 18:31:27

“Sounds like you lost the bet, Mr. Phony. The truth will out, my friend, the truth will out. Let’s see, where should I have you send my winnings?”

10 to 1

Pay the man

“The woman said she thinks the men were looking for prescription pills, knowing the Byrds have medical conditions.”

‘I heard pow, pow, pow’

Last updated: October 23. 2014 10:37AM - 18688 Views

LUMBERTON — Neighbors say at least one man suspected in a violent home invasion on Yedda Road this week knew the victims, and they believe the family was targeted.

Sixty-seven-year-old Kenneth Byrd suffered at least eight gunshot wounds during the home invasion late Monday night, according to neighbors who helped him immediately after the incident. His wife, Judy Byrd, 65, and teenage granddaughter were severely beaten. One of the suspected intruders died as a result of gunshot wounds inflicted during the burglary, while two others remain hospitalized.

Three neighbors spoke with The Robesonian about the incident, but two did not want their names published.

According to a neighbor who lives across the street, one of the men hospitalized — Brandon Carver Stephens — knows the Byrd family. She said Stephens’ brother is close with Judy Byrd and that she “thinks a lot of him.”

“I didn’t think he had that in him,” she said. She said she did not know 17-year-old Jamar Hawkins, who has also been hospitalized and is a person of interest in the case, and 20-year-old Jamie Lee Faison, who was found dead following the incident.

The woman said she thinks the men were looking for prescription pills, knowing the Byrds have medical conditions.

The woman’s mother said she heard the shots ring out from inside her home on the quiet, secluded street. Questions about what was happening began being answered when a bloodied Kenneth Byrd — her neighbor of about 20 years — banged on the door.

“I don’t know how he ever made it across that road,” said the woman.

According to the neighbor and her daughter, Byrd’s heart was pierced by a bullet. He had been shot four times in the leg and three times in the arm, shattering his bone. His head was beaten so badly they feared he had been shot there, too.

“It just scared me to death,” she said. “You’re not expecting something like that.”

More shots were heard from the Byrd’s home and the woman called 911. Police came quickly but she said she had to call an ambulance twice.

While waiting for the ambulance to arrive, Kenneth Byrd was lucid. He had trouble breathing, the woman said, but was able to clearly describe a little of what had happened, although for whatever reason, he refused to come inside.

“He kept lookin’ over there towards the house,” she said.

The woman said there were no strange cars outside the home, and said the intruders must have been on foot. They eventually fled the home in Kenneth Byrd’s gold Cadillac, which was later found about six miles away by sheriff’s deputies on Singletary Church Road. Faison was found dead with a gunshot wound.

The Byrds’ next-door neighbor, Henry Pittman, said he was watching television when he heard gunshots come from the residence.

“I heard pow, pow, pow, and knew something was going on,” said Pittman, who has known and lived next to the couple for more than 20 years.

Pittman said that he stepped outside to investigate the noise and saw a bloody Kenneth Byrd across the street, “hollering for help” outside of the other neighbor’s home.

“They beat Kenneth. I mean they beat him bad,” Pittman said.

A few moments later, the Byrds’ teenage granddaughter managed to escape from a window and ran across the yard to Pittman’s home for sanctuary. According to a statement from the Sheriff’s Office, the intruders attempted to rape the 19-year-old during the burglary. The Robesonian has elected not to publish her name.

Pittman said that the teenager was partially dressed and her clothes were torn.

According to the sheriff’s statement, the couple were forced into a backroom before Kenneth Byrd recovered a gun and exchanged fire with the intruders.

“They got what they deserved,” Pittman said. “They kicked the wrong door in.”

Pittman said he had seen at least two of the intruders — including Stephens — in the neighborhood before. He believes the men were dropped off at the end of the street, and walked to the Byrds’ home.

According to Pittman, Kenneth Byrd “doesn’t believe in banks,” and has told people that he keeps large sums of cash inside his home. The couple has many friends, Pittman said.

Pittman said it was just like Byrd’s character to “take care of himself, take care of everything in the house, then get across the street” for help.

“The old man showed me,” he said. “I’m proud of him.”

Pittman says that violent crime is increasingly common in the neighborhood, citing drug activity and gangs. A shooting spurred by a domestic dispute occurred near his home in April.

“It’s always been quiet except for the last year or so,” Pittman said.

Pittman said that he briefly considered grabbing his gun during the invasion Monday, but decided against it after remembering that the weapon was not loaded.

“I keep it loaded in my closet now,” he said.

The woman who lives across the street said she never thought such violence would ring out so close to home, especially involving her warm, welcoming neighbors.

“They’re real nice, help you anyway they can, do anything for you,” she said.

The woman said if not for Kenneth Byrd’s resilience “it could have been uglier.”

“He was trying to protect his family,” she said.

Staff writers Sarah Willets and Jaymie Baxley contributed to this report. Sarah Willets can be reached at swillets@civitasmedia.com or at 910-816-1974. Jaymie Baxley can be reached at jbaxley@civitasmedia.com or 910-416-5771.

Comment by phony scandals
2014-10-30 06:31:17

“The truth will out”

Pay the man

“According to Pittman, Kenneth Byrd “doesn’t believe in banks,” and has told people that he keeps large sums of cash inside his home. The couple has many friends, Pittman said.”

“Pittman said it was just like Byrd’s character to “take care of himself, take care of everything in the house, then get across the street” for help.”

“The old man showed me,” he said. “I’m proud of him.”

Comment by Shillow
2014-10-30 06:37:50

Dang, I gotta go back and read yesterday. I missed the exchange. And quit posting stuff that shows nothing new. The quotes above don’t settle it and are several days old.

Comment by phony scandals
2014-10-30 06:49:57

Doctor Spot on chimes in.

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2014-10-30 06:54:48

Comment by Oddfellow
2014-10-25 07:09:40

Hate to rain on the hero parade, but I bet 10 to 1 the grandfather was involved in drug dealing. A cop I know says that the vast majority of home invasions are drug related. Very few other people have large amounts of cash and other easily stolen/sold valuables (drugs,guns) around the house.

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Comment by Shillow
2014-10-25 07:27:15

Spot on.

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Comment by Shillow
2014-10-30 07:39:15

That remains spot on. Even if he was an innocent victim, such is very rare. Stranger home invasion is very rare. Here the articles establish it wasn’t a stranger scenario. And making it known that you have large amounts of cash in the house isn’t a good move ever, but especially not if there are low life’s around.

 
Comment by In Colorado
2014-10-30 08:40:36

And making it known that you have large amounts of cash in the house isn’t a good move ever, but especially not if there are low life’s around.

Reminds me of an old Far Side cartoon, where a guy is walking down a street full of hoods and thugs. His wife pokes her head out of their apartment window and shouts something like: “Remember to deposit the $3000 cash in the savings account”

 
Comment by phony scandals
2014-10-30 12:40:31

“Hate to rain on the hero parade, but I bet 10 to 1 the grandfather was involved in drug dealing.”

How does that remain spot on Dr. Spot?

Look I,m sorry that 3 members of your party base got shot for a home invasion and I know it goes against your ideology that citizens don’t need guns to protect themselves but saying that old dude was a drug dealer is pure B.S.

You sir are guilty of accessory to welching in the first degree.

 
Comment by phony scandals
2014-10-30 13:56:58

“Stranger home invasion is very rare. Here the articles establish it wasn’t a stranger scenario.”

Evidently they didn’t know him well enough to know he had a gun or one of them wouldn’t be dead and the other two wouldn’t have gone to the hospital with gun shot wounds.

“And making it known that you have large amounts of cash in the house isn’t a good move ever,”

Obviously, but that doesn’t make you a drug dealer.

 
Comment by MightyMike
2014-10-30 14:41:17

Look I,m sorry that 3 members of your party base got shot for a home invasion

Do any of these articles state which party these criminals supported?

 
Comment by phony scandals
2014-10-30 15:04:39

Hook, line and sinker. :)

 
 
 
 
Comment by Oddfellow
2014-10-30 07:24:48

“According to a neighbor who lives across the street, one of the men hospitalized — Brandon Carver Stephens — knows the Byrd family. She said Stephens’ brother is close with Judy Byrd and that she “thinks a lot of him.”

So it wasn’t a random crime. They knew the guy, knew he had money and pills. So my original point remains, true random home invasions are rare.

BTW- If the grandfather was black, the police would seize his cash, and demand he prove it’s legit before maybe, maybe giving it back to him.

Comment by phony scandals
2014-10-30 12:42:57

Welcher

 
Comment by phony scandals
2014-10-30 13:10:43

“So my original point remains,”

Your original point was that the old dude who shot the thugs was involved in drug dealing and you put 10 to 1 odds on it.

“Hate to rain on the hero parade” my @ss. You loved it. You bet, you got called on it you are now grasping at straws.

“Hate to rain on the hero parade, but I bet 10 to 1 the grandfather was involved in drug dealing. A cop I know says that the vast majority of home invasions are drug related. Very few other people have large amounts of cash and other easily stolen/sold valuables (drugs,guns) around the house.”

Comment by Oddfellow
2014-10-30 19:36:36

You really should get a hobby. You’re cracking up over this.

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Comment by phony scandals
2014-10-30 19:56:33

Spoken like someone who lost a 10 to 1 bet they don’t want to pay.

 
Comment by Oddfellow
2014-10-30 20:13:11

They say knitting is a good hobby. The repetition relaxes the mind somehow. And when you’re done, you’ve got a nice sweater.

 
Comment by phony scandals
2014-10-30 20:45:05

LMAO welcher

Do you know a cop who tells you about knitting too?

 
Comment by Oddfellow
2014-10-30 21:00:39

I know a paperhanger who tells me ghost stories.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by 2banana
2014-10-30 05:50:20

“But this time is the worst,” he said. “It has made the city less diverse, less artistic and, definitely, less cool.”

Too many white geeks!!!!

I can still remember a day in America when housing and rents were affordable and no landlord would kick out a good tenant over silly things.

Then government got involved in the housing market and somehow believes that “cheap” money will save us all. On one hand their policies jack prices of homes and rents to the sun and on the other they give out “affordable” rentals/housing for the select few. With everyone trying to scam the system.

I like the “bad” old days better - even at 13% interest rates. Buying and renting was a private matter between you and the bank/landlord. And it worked out pretty well.

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Rents are soaring — and so are evictions
CNNMoney.com - Les Christie - 10/30/2014

In cities across the United States, millions of people will be kicked out of their homes this year.

Some can’t afford their soaring rent, others are getting evicted over minor violations by landlords eager to get higher paying tenants in place.

Rents have risen 7% in the past year, while incomes have inched just 1.8% higher — making it that much harder for people to afford their housing payments. In fact, the average renter now spends 30% of their income on rent, up from a longtime average of about 25%, according to Zillow.

One big emergency or unexpected expense and it can mean a missed payment — and an eviction notice.

In Georgia, there was one eviction notice filed for every five rental households, more than 200,000 total filings last year. Many cases involved renters who were unable to keep up with rent increases.

Most evictions from Baltimore’s public housing are for just causes like failing to pay rent, hoarding and noise complaints, said Shawn Boehringer, chief counsel at Maryland Legal Aid. But other evictions are occurring as some subsidized, low-income buildings are being converted into middle-income or luxury housing.

For the displaced, it can be a long road back. Once renters are out, most landlords don’t want them. They often wind up in substandard housing with leaky roofs, broken windows, rodent infestations and no heat, said Boehringer. “It’s a tremendous hardship for them.”

In San Francisco, an influx of thousands of highly-paid tech workers has sent rents soaring and longstanding tenants are being pushed out as landlords seek to make a small fortune by selling their buildings or converting the units into condos.

Tom Gullicksen, the director of the San Francisco Tenants Union, said the same thing happened during the dot-com boom. As a result, the city lost a large number of middle and working class residents.

“But this time is the worst,” he said. “It has made the city less diverse, less artistic and, definitely, less cool.”

Making matters worse in San Francisco is the Ellis Act, state legislation that allows landlords to escape strict rent control and tenant rights laws by taking rentals off the market for a minimum of five years.

Since February 2013, Evan Wolkenstein, a 40-year old teacher, and four of his neighbors have been fighting Ellis Act evictions on their apartments in the Mission District, where he has lived for almost 10 years.

“Rents have skyrocketed to the point that an Ellis Act eviction is tantamount to an eviction from the city,” said Wolkenstein. “People who are not wealthy cannot afford to stay. This effects, naturally, the most economically vulnerable people more profoundly.”

 
Comment by palmetto
2014-10-30 05:53:42

Tim Cook comes out!

http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-apple-ceo-tim-cook-gay-20141030-story.html

Wow, that’s cutting edge stuff right there, considering ApplePay bombed within about 60 seconds of its release. Come to think of it, I wonder if his “announcement” will serve as a distraction from that debacle.

Lol, for better comic relief, here’s the clip of the coming out scene in the movie Almost Famous:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEAIVXJ1Qds

Comment by In Colorado
2014-10-30 06:32:41

Will Larry Ellison brag about his serial marriages?

Comment by palmetto
2014-10-30 06:41:26

Did anyone post the Sage Kelly Wall Street divorce saga story yesterday?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-29/why-every-banker-wall-street-suddenly-wants-be-jefferies-managing-director-sage-kell

This is what the big boyz do in their spare time, apparently. Holy Jeebus, straight out of the Wolf of Wall Street, and beyond.

Comment by real journalists
2014-10-30 07:05:15

I just read a similar article on Business Insider.

It’s been about a decade since I went to parties like that, must be getting old, after two tokes I just want a snack and early bedtime.

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Comment by SUGuy
2014-10-30 09:50:44

“must be getting old, after two tokes I just want a snack and early bedtime.”

I thought one should snack on snack trays after two tokes.:)

 
 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-10-30 20:16:00

That story is licentious, bordering on pornographic. Is it credible?

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Comment by real journalists
2014-10-30 05:58:04

Wall Street Journal - Apple CEO Tim Cook: ‘I’m Proud to Be Gay’

“Apple Chief Executive Tim Cook said he was “proud to be gay” in a personal essay published Thursday by Bloomberg Businessweek, publicly acknowledging it for the first time.

Cook, 53 years old, said he strongly values his privacy but was talking about his sexuality because he felt it allowed him to do something to help others.

Cook said being gay was “among the greatest gifts God has given me”

Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-10-30 06:02:45

Translation=Apple is in trouble so let’s wheel out the “our CEO is gay” distraction.

Comment by real journalists
2014-10-30 06:19:43

More importantly, where is Liberace?

Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-10-30 06:24:28

Liberace is posing with another name.

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Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-10-30 07:32:48

So when will Apple announce layoffs? 30 days? 6 months? Any wagers?

 
Comment by oxide
2014-10-30 07:43:35

That news is like Jack Sparrow’s pistol. They only had one shot, and they used it on ApplePay? Was ApplePay really that much of a disaster?

Comment by palmetto
2014-10-30 07:57:16
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Comment by palmetto
2014-10-30 06:08:33

Yep, posted that one, too, but you beat me to it. However, I did add the coming out clip from the movie Almost Famous.

Great distraction from the ApplePay flameout.

Comment by Ben Jones
2014-10-30 07:00:09

I wonder how Limbaugh is reacting this morning cuddled up with his iPhone?

I don’t get what this Apple Pay thing accomplishes. Why not just use your credit/debit card? Seems like an unnecessary step.

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-10-30 07:15:16

What is Tim Cook to Limpbaugh? (I have no idea, as I systematically avoid any exposure to bloviating Rush…)

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Comment by real journalists
2014-10-30 07:21:56

“I systematically avoid any exposure to bloviating Rush”

Because you’re a self-proclaimed “independent” who just happens to vote Democrat Party 99% of the time :)

Don’t worry, real journalists are here to help bro

 
Comment by Ben Jones
2014-10-30 07:40:46

Limbaugh is always talking up Apple. The stock, the phones, the suicide factories, etc.

 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-10-30 07:51:15

“…who just happens to vote Democrat Party 99% of the time…”

Whatever you say must be true, since you are a real journalist.

 
Comment by real journalists
2014-10-30 07:57:57

You keep sending Dianne Feinstein back to the Senate, and she decides who the real journalists are.

 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-10-30 18:04:46

Since you work for the libtard main stream media and owe your job to Dianne Feinstein, we can only logically conclude you yourself vote with the Democrat supermajority 100% of the time.

 
 
Comment by palmetto
2014-10-30 07:19:28

Payments is a potential huge revenue stream, apparently. So there’s a bit of a battle out there right now for those dollars. I don’t understand it all, but this gives sort of an idea.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/chanellebessette/2014/10/06/leaked-screenshots-show-facebooks-move-into-mobile-payments/

Merchants wouldn’t mind taking payments through a system that would reduce their fees, and that’s what this is all about.

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Comment by oxide
2014-10-30 11:24:18

Merchants wouldn’t mind taking payments through a system that would reduce their fees

They could lower their prices to where people could pay with pocket cash. No fees there.

And let’s be honest, no one is going to be buying $500 light fixtures with this. This purely a play for the under-$20 hippie transaction market. IMO if you don’t have enough cash for quick Chipotle and Sbux run, you need to manage your money better.

 
 
Comment by 2banana
2014-10-30 07:24:39

I think Ben’s logic is:

Rush –> conservative –> hates gays –> gays make iphones –> Rush loves iphones

The logic breaks down rather quickly.

2b’s rule:

Conservatives want to live under the laws/taxes they want for everyone else and liberals expect to be exempted from the laws/taxes they want for everyone else.

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Comment by real journalists
2014-10-30 07:33:30

“Conservatives”

I hope you enjoy spending $60,000 of taxpayer dollars a year per inmate to incarcerate prisoners convicted of marijuana possession.

 
Comment by 2banana
2014-10-30 07:44:11

I hope you enjoy spending $60,000 of taxpayer dollars a year per inmate to incarcerate prisoners convicted of marijuana possession.

I would enjoy spending that money deporting illegals and throwing bankers in jail.

FREE JOHN CORZINE!!!

 
Comment by Oddfellow
2014-10-30 10:17:05

“I would enjoy spending that money deporting illegals and throwing bankers in jail.”

Then you surely don’t support either of the “two” dominant political parties.

 
Comment by iftheshoefits
2014-10-30 11:55:37

Which political party supports throwing bankers in jail? I must have missed something.

 
Comment by Neuromance
2014-10-30 12:51:11

2banana: I would enjoy spending that money deporting illegals and throwing bankers in jail.

The Deep State is controlled by Wall Street, and via Eric Holder (Attorney General of the US) and Lanny Breuer (Head of the Justice Department’s Criminal Division) it has clearly stated it would not pursue Wall Street.

One can put all kinds of happy talk in front of it to justify it, how it’s all being done for the children and the elderly and widows and orphans, but not pursuing corruption encourages more of it.

 
 
Comment by Neuromance
2014-10-30 09:11:02

Actually, Rush had Elton John play at his wedding.

Also, Rush’s public concession of “having lost the messaging” on gay marriage deflated the anti-gay marriage forces ISTM.

Rush is certainly not gay-friendly on his radio show, but… I don’t get the impression it’s a core issue with him.

And yes, Limbaugh is a major advocate of Apple products, has been for years, FWIW.

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Comment by Ben Jones
2014-10-30 09:15:23

He’s hardly in a position to be lecturing people on sexual matters. And he doesn’t say much about illegal drugs.

 
Comment by Ben Jones
2014-10-30 09:48:22

Now that I think about it, he does go on about Bill Clinton. What a classy bunch.

BTW, I always thought Elton John was over-rated. “Step back, funky Jack.” That’s right up there with the lyrical masterpiece, “Planet Earth is blue, and there’s nothing I can do.”

 
Comment by Michael Viking
2014-10-30 10:51:39

“Alligator lizards in the air” is a masterpiece.

 
Comment by Neuromance
2014-10-30 11:04:22

Ben Jones: BTW, I always thought Elton John was over-rated. “Step back, funky Jack.” That’s right up there with the lyrical masterpiece, “Planet Earth is blue, and there’s nothing I can do.”

IMHO, one just cannot judge an artist by their worst lyric. He’s got many fantastic ones :)

 
Comment by oxide
2014-10-30 11:33:45

Maybe if that were his worst lyric, but by far his worst lyric is ” this is your song, It may be quite simple but now that it’s done”.. which he sings long before the song is actually done. :roll: Never ceases to bug me.
And anyway, lyric complaints should be directed at Bernie Taupin.

 
Comment by iftheshoefits
2014-10-30 11:54:12

I thought it was “get back, honky cat”.

 
Comment by Ben Jones
2014-10-30 11:59:42

It could be. I change the channel within seconds of recognizing it.

 
Comment by Ben Jones
2014-10-30 12:18:33

Who-boy. EJ isn’t as bad as some others:

“If the light is off, then it isn’t on.”

http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/the-most-mind-bogglingly-stupid-song-lyrics-of-all-time

“He was a boy, she was a girl, can I make it any more obvious?”

http://whatculture.com/music/10-really-stupid-lyrics-in-popular-songs.php/2

 
Comment by Selfish Hoarder
2014-10-30 20:27:41

Don’t forget Bible-thumping Rush also praises atheist Ayn Rand.

Wow, he likes gays and atheists.

 
 
 
 
Comment by inchbyinch
2014-10-30 09:40:56

Cook said being gay was “among the greatest gifts God has given me”

And why do we care?

Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-10-30 10:21:58

Because he’s going to tip the scales and start the first round of layoffs.

 
 
 
Comment by phony scandals
2014-10-30 05:58:45

10 to 1

I know a cop who says blah blah blah

Make the check payable to Ben Jones

Send it to

PO Box 1764
Flagstaff, AZ 86002

NC grandpa shoots 3 intruders after they beat his wife, attempt to gang rape granddaughter (VIDEO)

10/25/14 | by Jennifer Cruz

Neighbors say they’ve seen Stephens around the house before, and Byrd’s wife is close to his brother. One neighbor said she believes the family was targeted, most likely for cash and prescription drugs, but authorities did not confirm what, if anything, was taken from the home.

Authorities believe the three suspects may have been involved in other recent burglaries in the area.

“They got what they deserved,” Pittman said of the suspects. “They kicked the wrong door in.”

http://www.guns.com/…/ - 154k -

Comment by 2banana
2014-10-30 06:31:28

In many liberal blue states - grandpa would be arrested.

Comment by phony scandals
2014-10-30 06:35:27

Noun 1. welcher - someone who swindles you by not repaying a debt or wager

 
 
Comment by Shillow
2014-10-30 07:43:37

Authorities did confirm what was taken from the house, they just didn’t confirm it to the reporter. They would have to confirm that to charge them with robbery.

Comment by phony scandals
2014-10-30 12:45:04

Guilty of accessory to welching in the first degree.

 
 
 
Comment by real journalists
2014-10-30 06:16:39

Washington Times - Ralph Nader dubs Hillary Clinton ‘a menace to the United States’

“When asked by a writer with We Are Change what he thought of the former Secretary of State seeking the nation’s highest office, Mr. Nader’s reply was less than enthusiastic.

“Well, Hillary is a corporatist and a militarist,” Mr. Nader said, Raw Story reported. “Do we want another corporatist and militarist? She thinks Obama is too weak. He doesn’t kill enough people overseas. So she’s a menace to the United States of America.”

 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-10-30 06:19:00

Are zombie foreclosures increasing in your state?

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-10-30 08:07:05

Zombie foreclosures rise in 16 states and 60 metro areas
Published: Oct 30, 2014 12:02 a.m. ET
By Quentin Fottrell
Personal finance reporter

Zombie foreclosures are on the decline, but they’re still scaring people in 60 metro areas and 16 states.

There were 117,298 owner-vacated foreclosures nationwide in the third quarter of 2014, representing 18% of total properties in foreclosure, down from 141,406 in the second quarter of 2014 (17% of all foreclosures) and down 152,033 (23% of foreclosures) in the same period last year, according to data released Thursday by the real estate website RealtyTrac. “Zombie” foreclosures occur when the owner leaves the property, but the bank has yet to take possession of it.

Contrary to this national trend, there were increases in owner-vacated foreclosure in the third quarter in 16 states, including New Jersey, where zombie foreclosures surged 75% year-over-year, North Carolina (up 65%), Oklahoma (up 37%), and New York (up 30%) and Alabama (up 29%). The New York metro area had the most zombie foreclosures (13,366) in the third quarter, followed by Miami (9,869), Tampa (7,509), Chicago (7,326), Philadelphia (5,405) and Orlando (3,732).

A short and efficient foreclosure prevents zombies, says Daren Blomquist, vice president at RealtyTrac. Some states passed laws to give homeowners more time to avoid foreclosure through face-to-face mediation and other means, which sometimes just delays the inevitable, he says. “The best antidote for a zombie foreclosure infestation is a pro-active land bank program like that in Cleveland and, more recently, Chicago designed to aggressively take possession of vacant foreclosures or demolish them.”

 
 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-10-30 06:20:32

Ru the renter whom your wealthy home owner neighbors disdain?

 
Comment by palmetto
2014-10-30 06:36:28

“Comment by MightyMike
2014-10-29 20:32:35
Even if you take the racial point out, I still think that the writer is really reaching there. He sees the story about rocket blowing up, remember the quote about reaching out to Muslims, and ties the two things together. NASA and its contractor are probably just starting an investigation now that may take months, but this writer knows what caused that accident in Virginia.”

I’m familiar with Vdare’s focus, so I get your point.

But the larger point about people in positions of power having a mission that has nothing to do with the real purpose of their agency or whatever is valid. Such an operating basis can and will cause massive confusion and failures, and that’s not good even for the people in charge. Sibelius, for example. Way in over her head and the way she was treated was shabby and ugly.

We had a similar situation happen in our local government some years back. The head of the Housing Authority was given a post way over his head. When $12 million went missing, the poor guy was hounded by the press until he finally broke down on camera. It was one of the cruelest things I’ve ever seen. He had no clue that budget was something he needed to be responsible for, and clearly thought that his underlings were taking care of it. I’m pretty sure a couple of the underlings with way more experience were pissed that they had been passed over in favor of an outsider with the proper social bona fides and undermined him. The outcome was just plain ugly. It was like the guy was set up to be knocked down.

Comment by rj chicago
2014-10-30 07:56:39

But Palmetto:
“Sibelius, for example. Way in over her head and the way she was treated was shabby and ugly.”

Frankly I have no pity at all for someone like her - This is the Faustian deal that these political hacks make - and frankly they deserve what is coming to them when they LIE on their resume’.

Comment by MacBeth
2014-10-30 08:41:21

How about how the American people are treated? How ’bout that?

Comment by palmetto
2014-10-30 11:15:19

But, but, nobody cares about “the American people”, in case you haven’t noticed. It’s all about hyphens now.

Seriously, though, I agree with you, but it’s not necessary to eviscerate people when they clearly can’t handle a certain job. Eviscerate the person who gave them the post. That would be a far more interesting and enlightening process.

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Comment by real journalists
2014-10-30 06:42:01

Percentage by city of who “engaged in moderate aerobic physical activity for at least 150 minutes per week, or vigorous activity for at least 75 minutes per week”, in summary:

Boulder, CO - 72.5%
Heber, UT - 67.9%
Kapaa, HI - 66.4%
Eugene, OR - 65.0%
Fort Collins, CO - 64.8%
Portland, ME - 62.4%
San Francisco, CA - 62.4%

And at the bottom of the list:

Chattanooga, TN - 36.4%
Kingsport, TN - 36.6%
Memphis, TN - 37.8%
Shreveport, LA - 38.9%
Mobile, AL - 39.5%
Jackson, MS - 40.1%

http://www.businessinsider.com/metro-area-exercise-map-2014-10

Comment by In Colorado
2014-10-30 08:30:38

Those girls in the yoga pants are skinny for a reason

Comment by MacBeth
2014-10-30 08:39:29

Likely because they can afford to be thin.

Eating right costs a lot of money.

Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-10-30 09:12:04

Eating less costs nothing.

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Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-10-30 06:42:30

Recently I overheard a wise man say, “hold on to your dollars and stay out of debt. You’re going to need every penny.”

He’s right.

 
Comment by real journalists
2014-10-30 06:51:23

Article about the 0.1% doing God’s work, chock full o’ sex and drugs

“She alleges that were instances where Sage allegedly “passed out at the marital residence — sometimes having defecated in our bed or on the floor next to the bed or having urinated on a bedroom wall.”

http://www.businessinsider.com/sage-and-christina-kelly-divorce-papers-2014-10

Comment by palmetto
2014-10-30 06:59:31

jeebus, you and I are on the same page this morning. Scary!

Whew, those divorce papers are way over the top.

Somewhere I read that William F. Buckley developed a prostate problem in his later years and got a charge out of pissing in the street from his limousine.

 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-10-30 20:21:11

“…passed out at the marital residence — sometimes having defecated in our bed or on the floor next to the bed or having urinated on a bedroom wall.”

Wanksters are so incredibly romantic!

 
 
Comment by real journalists
2014-10-30 06:59:58

MarketWatch article asks are millennial better employees than Gen Xers?

HR managers respond of qualities each generation is more likely to possess:

80% of millennials are narcissistic, vs 20% of Gen X

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-10-30 07:43:01

Dunno about better, but definitely lower paid.

 
 
Comment by 2banana
2014-10-30 07:20:21

MSNBC host Donny Deutch found guilty of scamming realtor out of $1 million over the sale of his $30 million house
UK Daily Mail | October 30, 2104 | David McCormack

MSNBC host Donny Deutsch has been found guilty of scamming a realtor out of over $1 million in commission on the sale of his former $30 million home in the Hamptons. Real estate broker Edward Petrie had claimed he was done out of his 4 percent commission after Deutsch went behind his back and brokered the 2010 sale privately to avoid paying the fee. Petrie had found a potential buyer in hedge fund boss Howard Marks, but once Deutsch realized he knew Marks, the realtor claimed that the TV host went behind his back. Justice Charles Ramos awarded Petrie’s employer, Sotheby’s, $1.2 million in compensation in court last week, reports The New York Post.

Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-10-30 07:26:29

That’s great. Someone turns the table on the RealtFraudsters.

 
Comment by phony scandals
2014-10-30 15:34:27

Seeing MSNBC host Donny Deutch reminded me of this.

Description: Email joke / Satire
Circulating since: 2000 / earlier
Status: False

Email example contributed by Toma R., 10 Oct 2000:

A strikingly handsome young man walked into the office of a Hollywood agent with his resume and portfolio in hand. The agent reviewed the young man’s slim resume and small portfolio with the care that was deserving of this fine young specimen.

“You have the very obvious good looks and excellent demeanor of an actor. Tell me, have you had any roles that I might be aware of.”

“Other than the requisite high school and college plays, no sir,” said the handsome young man.

“I dare say I know the reason why, with a name like yours,” said the agent.

“Sir?”

“Your name. Penus Van Lesbian. That’s not a name that will go far in Hollywood. I’d love to represent you, but you’ll have to change your name.”

“Sir,” the handsome young man protested. “The Van Lesbian name was my father’s, my grandfather’s and his father’s name. We have carried this name for generations and I will not change it for Hollywood or any other reason.”

“If you won’t change your name, I cannot represent you young man.”

“Then I bid you farewell - my name will not change.” With that, Penus Van Lesbian left the agents office never to return.

Five Years Later…

The Hollywood agent returned to his office after lunch with some producers and shuffled through his mail. Mostly junk mail, trade journals and the like. There was one letter. He opened the envelope and removed the letter. As he unfolded the fine linen paper, a check dropped from the folds and onto his desk. He looked at the check. It was for 50,000 dollars!

He read the letter:

Dear Sir:

Several years ago, I entered your office determined to become an actor. You refused to represent me unless I changed my name. I objected, saying the Penus Van Lesbian name had been carried for generations and left your office. However, upon leaving, I chanced to reconsider my hastiness and after considerable reflection, I decided to heed your advice and endeavored to change my name. Now I am a famous actor with many roles and known to millions worldwide. Having achieved this fame and fortune, it is often that I think back to my meeting with you and your insistence that I change my name. I owe you a debt of gratitude, so please accept this check with my humble thanks, for it was your idea which has brought me to such wealth and fame.

Very Sincerely Yours,
Dick Van Dyke

 
 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-10-30 07:44:35

30-year mortgage rates are trying to push back north of 4%. Perhaps the end of QE3 will restore normalcy to long-term interest rates?

Comment by iftheshoefits
2014-10-30 08:22:27

Haven’t we heard this same story at least twice before in the last few years? It always seems to end the same way. I’m still not placing any new bets.

 
Comment by In Colorado
2014-10-30 08:26:34

Perhaps the end of QE3 will restore normalcy to long-term interest rates?

If that happens (interest rates rising) they’ll fire up the printing presses. All the fanfare about QE ending is little more than Kabuki theater.

Comment by MacBeth
2014-10-30 08:33:27

I don’t see how they can raise interest rates…think of the $17T debt in a rising interest rate environment.

Yeah, they could print and make the dollar worthless.

Here’s $20,000 for that loaf of bread, Sir.

Comment by oxide
2014-10-30 11:48:14

At that rate, I could pay off my house with an hour and a half of work.

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Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-10-30 13:57:46

But that you’ll never have to worry about Donk.

 
 
Comment by In Colorado
2014-10-30 11:55:43

They’re stuck between a rock and a hard place. Keep rates low and you get inflation. Raise them and you get defaults.

If history has shown us anything, it’s that they’ll take inflation, until it becomes unbearable. Then the bitter medicine will be taken.

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Comment by MightyMike
2014-10-30 10:37:16

Perhaps the end of QE3 will restore normalcy to long-term interest rates?

What interest rate represents normalcy, Warren?

Comment by phony scandals
2014-10-30 13:42:47

Got a good one coming up for you below Mighty.

 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-10-30 20:22:11

6%

 
 
 
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Comment by 2banana
2014-10-30 08:02:29

It would be interesting to see how many made the list by providing superior goods/services

and how many made the list due to government contacts, insider info and crony capitalism…

Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-10-30 08:10:07

That^

 
Comment by Dman
2014-10-30 08:15:33

I’m sure Dick Cheney’s friends made a bundle on the Iraq War.

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-10-30 08:18:37

And that’s a great reason to expect endless war from here to kingdom come…

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Comment by real journalists
2014-10-30 09:38:25

see above ralph nader’s comments on hillary clinton

 
 
 
Comment by In Colorado
2014-10-30 08:23:08

And how many inherited their wealth.

 
Comment by iftheshoefits
2014-10-30 08:26:47

I fail to see a shred of evidence that either lefty or righty cronies are doing better than the other in all of this.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Neuromance
2014-10-30 09:18:22

Privatizing public goods might not be such a brilliant idea after all.

$10,000 for 11 unpaid trips. Wow.

Woman with $10,692 toll lanes charge goes to court
Thursday - 10/30/2014, 8:44am ET
WTOP.com

FAIRFAX, Va. — A Fairfax County woman who was charged more than $10,000 for 11 unpaid trips on the 495 Express Lanes went to court on Wednesday and won a partial victory over the company that operates the toll lanes.

Toni Cooley received the notices after her EZPass did not work in November and early December 2012. Cooley had to update the credit card on her EZPass account and did so, but not before she was charged $12.50 per unpaid trip in administrative fees. She didn’t know about the problem until after taking the 11 trips because they were so close together.

http://wtop.com/654/3732453/Woman-fights-10K-toll-lanes-charge

Comment by oxide
2014-10-30 12:34:49

Out of curiosity I tried to look up the price of the Beltway toll lanes and… they don’t have any pricing! :shock: Cameras monitor the flow and volume of traffic, and then adjust the prices every 15 minutes to “keep you moving.” WTF kind of private sector balderdash is THIS??? Not to mention foolhardy. Driving on the Beltway is dangerous enough without people crossing 3 lanes to lock into a lexus lane because it’s cheap. It’s like daytrading at Daytona.

Comment by 2banana
2014-10-30 13:07:30

Private sector balderdash?

Just who do you think authorized these tolls and will send a public union goon to your house with a gun if you don’t pay up…?

Comment by oxide
2014-10-30 13:13:33

I was complaining about the dynamic tolls, not the tolls. And it was authorized in a state where private sector has bought off the local government. That’s what private sector is about: government is a bastard, but it’s our bastard.

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Comment by Neuromance
2014-10-30 13:45:27

Government did. And the previous governor of Virginia was just convicted on 11 felony corruption counts and faces decades in prison. Also, the former governor blamed failing rental properties for his extreme need for money.

But, it also shows the folly of outsourcing public goods to private companies who can charge extortionist rates for the use of the public goods.

When a company charges the government, the costs of the gold-plated toilet seats are hidden, spread among all taxpayers. When they start charging individuals those extortionist rates - well, it can be a bit more dramatic. Like 10,000 USD for using a toll road.

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Comment by Neuromance
2014-10-30 15:10:42

I just heard another one on DC news radio: another fellow was charged 24,000 USD for something like 8 missed tolls, again when his EZPass transponder stopped working. He went to court, and “won” - having to now pay only 2,000 USD.

For around 8 missed tolls.

The toll operator, Transurban, is not screwing around. And they were in fact given that power by corrupt government.

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Comment by phony scandals
2014-10-30 13:25:31

Everyone Must Check In

Even You Welchers

Comment by real journalists
2014-10-30 15:06:37

Region VIII checking in.

 
Comment by Oddfellow
2014-10-30 20:02:22

Yo.

 
 
Comment by phony scandals
2014-10-30 13:41:13

Former Marine banned from daughter’s school after dispute over Islam lesson

Published October 30, 2014
FoxNews.com

A former Marine who served in Iraq says he’s been banned from his daughter’s Maryland high school after a heated argument over a lesson on Islam.

Kevin Wood told MyFoxDC.com that he went to La Plata High School in La Plata, a town about 30 miles southeast of Washington, and challenged a history assignment requiring students to list the benefits of Islam. He said the meeting with the vice principal got heated; the school said he made a threat and banned the Iraq veteran from school property.

“[Wood] was threatening to cause a disruption or possible disruption at the school,” a district spokesperson said.

Wood did not deny getting worked up over the issue, but said he was standing up for the Constitution and is against any religion being taught at the public school.

“I have witnesses that have said I did not threaten anybody,” he told the station. “I don’t force my religious views on them, so don’t force your religious views on me.”

The school is allowing his eleventh-grade daughter to spend the class time in the school’s library, but defended its assignment and said it is teaching world history, not religion.

Wood’s wife, Melissa, wondered how teaching about one religion is considered a history lesson while teaching about Christianity would be viewed diffrerently.

“We cannot discuss our Ten Commandments in school but they can discuss Islam’s Five Pillars?”

The three-page assignment asked questions including, “How did Muslim conquerors treat those they conquered?”

A homework assignment obtained by MyFoxDC.com showed the correct answer was, “With tolerance, kindness and respect.”

http://www.foxnews.com/…/ - 57k - Former Marine banned from daughter’s school after dispute over Islam lesson

Comment by cactus
2014-10-30 15:17:10

The three-page assignment asked questions including, “How did Muslim conquerors treat those they conquered?”

I read they lowered their taxes. farmers going farm warlords are going to tax.

 
 
Comment by phony scandals
2014-10-30 13:49:58

Support the Second Amendment? You Can’t Vote!

Election officials increasingly harass voters wearing pro-gun apparel at the voting booth

by Kit Daniels | Infowars.com | October 30, 2014

Voters wearing pro-gun apparel are increasingly being told they can’t vote by election officials.

In the most recent example, a poll worker told a Georgia veteran wearing a “National Rifle Association Instructor” hat that he couldn’t wear his hat in the voting booth because it was “too closely associated” with the Republican Party and the Tea Party.

“It kind of caught me off guard,” the veteran, Bundy Cobb, said, who was wearing the hat to promote his firearms training business.

The Douglas, Ga., County Board of Elections supervisor, Laurie Fulton, claimed the decision was made “out of an abundance of caution.”

“The courts have found that anything that suggests association with the NRA in many people’s perceptions is associated with the Republican Party,” Fulton told Fox Atlanta. “So in an overabundance of caution Mr. Cobb was asked to remove the hat so that no one could interpret that we were playing any favoritism over one party versus the other.”

But when the Daily Caller asked Fulton to cite the court case, she couldn’t nor could she cite anything prohibiting NRA apparel.

That’s because NRA membership has nothing to do with party affiliation.

“I know personally some Democrats who are members of the NRA,” Cobb said.

Earlier this year, a Texas man wearing a pro-gun t-shirt was similarly thrown out of a voting booth by election officials.

Chris Driskill was prevented from voting at the Waller County Courthouse after officials claimed he was violating Texas Election Code section 85.036 by wearing a shirt stating “Second Amendment – 1789 – America’s Original Homeland Security.”

“I heard a gentleman’s voice over my shoulder say ‘he can’t vote with that shirt on. You’ll have to either turn it inside out or you’ll have to leave,’” Driskill told KVUE.

The election code states “a person may not electioneer for or against any candidate, measure, or political party” in or within 100 feet of a voting location, but the Second Amendment has nothing to do with a political candidate or a party – it’s an inalienable human right.

In the eyes of these election officials, however, if you support a basic human right recognized by the Second Amendment, you can’t vote!

Comment by real journalists
2014-10-30 15:41:16

Michael Bloomberg needs to go take a ride on the New York City subway and hug some more people with Ebola.

 
Comment by measton
2014-10-30 20:50:39

Just as an FYI

Texas voter ID law allows concealed carry as and ID but not a student ID.

Comment by phony scandals
2014-10-31 05:40:56

“Just as an FYI”

“Texas voter ID law allows concealed carry as and ID but not a student ID.”

Texas Concealed Carry

Issuing Authority:
Texas Department of Public Safety

NICS check: Yes

Cost:
For most Texans, the license will cost $140. But for senior citizens or indigent Texans, the cost is only $70. For active/honorably retired peace officers or active/retired judicial officers, the cost is $25. For elected felony prosecuting attorneys, fee is waived.

Requirements:
To qualify for a Texas CHL you must:
1. Be 21 years old. (Members and former members of the armed forces must be 18.)
2. Have a clean criminal history, including military service and recent juvenile records.
3. Not be under a protective order.
4. Not be chemically dependent.
5. Not be of unsound mind.
6. Not be delinquent in paying fines, fees, child support, student loans, etc.
7. Be eligible to purchase a handgun by completing the NICS check.
8. Complete required training.

More information on the specifics of qualifying are available on the Texas Department of Public Safety site.

Informing Law Enforcement of Carry:
If a license holder is carrying a handgun on or about the license holder’s person when a magistrate or a peace officer demands that the license holder display identification, the license holder shall display both the license holder’s driver’s license or identification certificate issued by the department and the license holder’s handgun license. So basically if the LEO asks for your ID, go ahead and give him both.

http://www.usacarry.com/concealed_carry_permit_information.html - 204k -
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Illegal immigrants find paths to college, careers

Updated 5/26/2012 6:30 PM

No one knows how many illegal immigrants are enrolled in colleges or have graduated; schools don’t collect such data. But in 2010, an estimated 96,000 young adults without legal status held at least an associate’s degree or higher, according to a report from the Migration Policy Institute, a nonpartisan Washington think tank.

http://www.usatoday.com/…/story/2012-05-26/illegal-immigrants-college-careers/55222438/1 - 347k -

 
 
 
Comment by Ella58
2014-10-30 14:17:48

Many thanks, everyone, for your responses from yesterday! Sean, the twitter graph is very informative - I hadn’t seen a graph overlaying labor force participation with declining mortgage apps before. Oxide and Raymond, the Zerohedge articles were both excellent summaries. Thank you, all.

Alas, the person I’m trying to help, while hard-working and well-intentioned, has a very low level of education. Unfortunately Zerohedge articles with mortgage credit vs. price increase graphs are really beyond their grasp. And the only plain-language RE articles I can find are all full of NAR propaganda saying buy, buy, buy.

It appears the specuvestors have run out of greedy and willfully ignorant bagholders, so the last step is to prey on people who genuinely don’t know any better. Very sad to watch, especially since we’ve seen this movie before.

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-10-30 19:20:04

“Alas, the person I’m trying to help, while hard-working and well-intentioned, has a very low level of education.”

Sounds like a perfect candidate to use a 100% financed GSE loan to buy an investor-owned home at a premium to fundamental value. By all means, fully encourage your friend to buy as soon as possible.

 
 
Comment by real journalists
2014-10-30 15:05:11

Everyone must check in.

Comment by phony scandals
2014-10-30 15:36:46

Region IV

Comment by real journalists
2014-10-30 15:49:20

And a reference for any lurkers or bewildered link-clickers:

https://www.fema.gov/regional-operations

 
 
 
Comment by phony scandals
2014-10-30 15:47:50

Well, I’ve never been to heaven
But I’ve been to Region I
Well, they tell me I was born there
But I really don’t remember

In Region I, not Region IV
What does it matter?
What does it matter?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ff8N2iC4oB8 - 290k -

 
Comment by real journalists
2014-10-30 16:29:47

the Velvet Underground - I’m Beginning To See The Light

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3gWi9bBkHQ

 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-10-30 18:08:15

The political revenge of the UK renters is right around the corner. Loanowners and estate agents should be scared, very scared!

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-10-30 18:10:39

Renters ‘will outnumber homeowners in 104 parliamentary seats by 2021’
Campaign group Generation Rent says MPs will have to adapt their priorities to renters’ needs

Renters will outnumber homeowners in 104 of the UK’s 650 parliamentary constituencies by the year 2021, according to research from the campaign group Generation Rent. This will mean a large increase in the political power wielded by those who rent their homes.

The number of MPs with a majority of constituents who rent their homes has risen from 38 in 2001 (6% of MPs) to 65 in 2011 (10% of MPs). The report calculates that if this trend continues and house prices remain unaffordable to many people then renters will outnumber homeowners in 16% of constituencies by 2021.

Generation Rent, a group that campaigns to improve the rights of tenants, used data from the 2001 and 2011 censuses to find the proportion of the population that rents in each constituency. In 2011, 35% of people in the UK rented their home, either from a private landlord, the council or a housing association.

Forty-nine of the predicted 104 renter majorities are in London and many seats in large northern cities have been historically dominated by renters. Fifty of the 65 renter majority seats in 2011 were held by Labour.

Of the 39 extra constituencies that the report forecasts will become dominated by renters in 2021, 25 are currently held by Labour and 11 by the Conservative Party, nearly tripling the number of renter majority seats it currently holds. The safe Tory seats of Bournemouth East, Bournemouth West and Northampton South are projected to be renter majorities in 10 years’ time.

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-10-30 19:09:44

After another 14% drop in the US home ownership rate, US renters will also be in the political driver’s seat. Let’s hope this happens sooner than later!

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-10-30 19:22:54

Slowly but surely, we’re getting there!

Homeownership drops to two-decade low
Published: Oct 29, 2014 8:44 a.m. ET
By Ruth Mantell
Economics reporter

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — Showing that the housing market is still far from normal, U.S. homeownership dropped to the lowest rate in two decades, with declines across the country and income spectrum, according to government data released Tuesday.

The U.S. Census Bureau reported that the homeownership rate, which shows the share of occupied homes in which owners live, fell to 64.4% in the third quarter — the leanest result since 1994 — down almost a full percentage point from a year earlier.

“The steady decline in the homeownership rate is partially the result of tight lending conditions and a historically low share of first-time buyers,” Josh Miller, an economist with the National Association of Home Builders, wrote in a blog post.

With homeownership rates down, a parallel trend shows that the share of rentals that are vacant also recently hit the lowest level since the mid-1990s. Rents have been racing higher, with annual housing inflation recently speeding up tp the fastest pace since 2008.

Faced with a drawn-out and uneven recovery in the labor market, it’s been tough for many families to put together enough cash for a down payment to qualify for a mortgage. Young families and other first-time buyers make up about three-tenths of existing-home sales, below a long-term average that’s closer to four-in-10, according to the National Association of Realtors.

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Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-10-30 19:18:10

Did you make the mistake of leaving the stock market just before QE3 ended? If so, sorry to hear that. If you haven’t noticed by now, not only was QE3 good for the stock market ever since it started, but it is also good for the stock market now that it has ended. Buy now, or get priced out forever!

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-10-30 20:26:04

The End of the Federal Reserve’s QE Can’t Stop the Stock Market
BY Bret Kenwell
10/30/14 - 05:39 PM EDT |

NEW YORK (TheStreet) — The Federal Reserve announced the end of its quantitative easing program Wednesday and that made the market somewhat happy Thursday.

Just because the Fed is finished purchasing Treasuries doesn’t mean interest rates will automatically go higher, Joseph Terranova, chief market strategist for Virtus Investment Partners, said on CNBC’s “Fast Money Halftime Show.” He said Treasury yields will likely stay low as investors avoid floundering economies and put their money to work in U.S. assets.

 
 
Comment by phony scandals
2014-10-31 06:48:13

phony scandals

 
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