November 21, 2014

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Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2014-11-21 04:49:15

The spawn of the Chinese oligarch embezzlers are living larging in southern CA with their purloined funds.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-11-20/caught-tape-how-children-chinese-oligarchs-live-it-socal

Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-11-21 06:44:11

I can only imagine the mess this is going to create when the arrests begin.

Comment by Wittbelle
2014-11-21 07:16:12

Dream on.

Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-11-21 07:20:47

And it’s already happening.

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Comment by rj chicago
2014-11-21 09:41:07

Best song by Dylan EVER there Wittbelle.

 
 
Comment by scdave
2014-11-21 07:30:59

Dream on ??

Don’t respond to his ineptness..Its what feeds him and gets him to return each day with 20+ posts…Ignore him…Maybe he will go away…

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Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-11-21 07:33:27

You don’t have the fortitude to ignore the truth. Here. I dare you.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/joshua-tree-extension/

 
Comment by Wittbelle
2014-11-21 08:06:00

Is “it” a he? Good to know. He’s not likely going away anytime soon. Although, I agree his posts have run their course. Like we can’t all pull up statistics from Zillow. I suspect, other than the HBB, he has few outside interests. He certainly must not have very many “real” friends, the way he treats people. Of course that could just be his online persona that he unleashes behind the anonymous protection of the internet. Perhaps in the “real” world he’s a gentle little lamb, or a passive, hen-pecked husband, constantly dodging his Amazonian wife’s criticisms. You just never know…

 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-11-21 08:17:57

And don’t take falling housing prices personal. It is what it is.

 
Comment by Wittbelle
2014-11-21 08:56:03

“Gotta Serve Somebody”
Bob Dylan

You may be an ambassador to England or France
You may like to gamble, you might like to dance
You may be the heavyweight champion of the world
You may be a socialite with a long string of pearls.

But you’re gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You’re gonna have to serve somebody,
It may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you’re gonna have to serve somebody.

Might be a rock’n’ roll adict prancing on the stage
Might have money and drugs at your commands, women in a cage
You may be a business man or some high degree thief
They may call you Doctor or they may call you Chief.

But you’re gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You’re gonna have to serve somebody,
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you’re gonna have to serve somebody.

You may be a state trooper, you might be an young turk
You may be the head of some big TV network
You may be rich or poor, you may be blind or lame
You may be living in another country under another name.

But you’re gonna have to serve somebody, yes
You’re gonna have to serve somebody,
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you’re gonna have to serve somebody.

You may be a construction worker working on a home
You may be living in a mansion or you might live in a dome
You might own guns and you might even own tanks
You might be somebody’s landlord you might even own banks.

But you’re gonna have to serve somebody, yes
You’re gonna have to serve somebody,
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you’re gonna have to serve somebody.

You may be a preacher with your spiritual pride
You may be a city councilman taking bribes on the side
You may be working in a barbershop, you may know how to cut hair
You may be somebody’s mistress, may be somebody’s heir.

But you’re gonna have to serve somebody, yes
You’re gonna have to serve somebody,
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you’re gonna have to serve somebody.

Might like to wear cotton, might like to wear silk
Might like to drink whiskey, might like to drink milk
You might like to eat caviar, you might like to eat bread
You may be sleeping on the floor, sleeping in a king-sized bed.

But you’re gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You’re gonna have to serve somebody,
It may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you’re gonna have to serve somebody.

You may call me Terry, you may call me Jimmy
You may call me Bobby, you may call me Zimmy
You may call me R.J., you may call me Ray
You may call me anything but no matter what you say.

You’re gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You’re gonna have to serve somebody,
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you’re gonna have to serve somebody.

 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-11-21 08:59:50

And singing kumbaya won’t keep housing prices from falling.

 
Comment by Wittbelle
2014-11-21 09:40:41

“Update: Great discussion in the comments. I’ll only add one more point in the post itself. Most people have the choice to own or rent their living space (the others will either inherit or live with relatives). The choice is, respectively, to put money into your own real-estate investment or into someone else’s. Absent the need to be mobile and assuming one is capitalized enough to afford a rational down payment on a rationally-priced home, why would the latter be a better choice in terms of investment?”

http://hotair.com/archives/2014/04/23/wapo-columnist-home-ownership-is-a-lousy-investment/

 
Comment by Wittbelle
2014-11-21 09:41:48

THINK

 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-11-21 09:43:45

CRATER

 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-11-21 10:29:19

Davis, CA Sale Prices Dive 4% YoY; Down 10% MoM, 14% QoQ As Demand Craters Statewide

http://www.zillow.com/davis-ca/home-values/

 
Comment by Wittbelle
2014-11-21 12:25:13

“The choice is, respectively, to put money into your own real-estate investment or into someone else’s.”

SERF

 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-11-21 12:29:08

And you invested in someone elses and now you’re stuck.

Your point?

 
 
Comment by Wittbelle
2014-11-21 17:16:54

“You gotta serve somebody”
+
“The choice is, respectively, to put money into your own real-estate investment or into someone else’s.”
=
Point

 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-11-21 17:58:14

Oh my…

Houston, TX Rental Rates Sink 10% YoY

http://www.zillow.com/houston-tx/home-values/

 
 
 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2014-11-21 13:57:24

Only little people pay taxes or get arrested.

 
 
Comment by Selfish Hoarder
2014-11-21 08:46:33

Yes and when they become U.S. citizens, they immediately register and vote for politicians who raise taxes. They have no qualms against redistribution of others’ wealth because they are used to being stolen from.

I was born in California. A beautiful state along the coast and in the Sierra Nevadas. A lot of great jobs in computer software and good pay. But not a place to retire and call permanent home. Renting is freedom here in Cali.

 
Comment by Guillotine Renovator
2014-11-21 12:38:12

I don’t want these crooks in this country. This money is stolen. Why do they ruin their own country, then come here?

 
 
Comment by taxpayers
2014-11-21 05:22:29

China going Bernake

Comment by azdude
2014-11-21 06:20:32

I keep hearing people say the FED is insolvent. How can a central bank go broke?

Comment by Beer and Cigar Guy
2014-11-21 12:46:52

I don’t know- ask someone from Zimbabwe. Or Argentina. Or Greece. Or Panama. Or Paraguay. Or Brazil. Or …

 
 
 
Comment by 2banana
2014-11-21 05:29:40

We no longer have the rule of law in this country.

We do have the rule of obama.

Remember - according to leftists on this blog - there is no difference between the parties.

What other “laws” will be just “made up” and enacted by decree in the next two years?

2bananas Rules of Government:

Conservatives are than happy to live under the same laws/taxes they want for everyone else.

Liberals/progressives expect to be exempted from the laws/taxes they want for everyone else.

Liberals/progressives never expect the political tactics they use while in power to eventually be used against them one day.

obama showed us the way.

Comment by Dman
2014-11-21 06:09:23

What, no long cut and pastes from some right-wing website? I’m disappointed. Oh well, it’s early.

Comment by oxide
2014-11-21 06:21:08

They’re coming. See below.

And hey banana, why don’t you ask your conservative paymasters — they who pay 15% capital gains taxes — to pay full freight 28-30%? Surely they would be happy to live under the same taxes they want for the rest of us?

Comment by 2banana
2014-11-21 06:47:01

Please name any conservative not pay their legal taxes.

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Comment by oxide
2014-11-21 07:17:02

Legality — yeah, all the legality that money can buy.

Your assertion was NOT about legality. Your assertion was that conservatives would be “happy” to pay the same as everyone else. So, then why did they lobby Congress to skew the tax laws so that they can “legally” pay less?

 
Comment by 2banana
2014-11-21 07:25:43

Any and all Americans can take full advantage of the tax laws - including many wealthy liberals and progressives. Google how the Kennedys make/keep their wealth some day….

Now explain obamacare exemptions for unions and friends of obama, ignoring bankruptcy laws for unions (GM/Detroit), the IRS only going after conservative groups, gun control for you but not for me, school choice for me (rich liberal) but not for you (poor black), etc. etc. etc.

 
Comment by Rental Watch
2014-11-21 07:56:38

“Google how the Kennedys make/keep their wealth some day….”

Or how the Clintons are doing their estate planning for that matter.

 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-11-21 08:03:21

Or take a look at most senate and house members that provide ongoing cover for their extended family trusts established 100 years ago.

 
 
Comment by Dman
2014-11-21 07:17:14

It’s funny how 2b has made this his home for posting his loooong anti-Obama screeds. Really, really funny. But my finger is tired from all the scrolling I have to do.

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Comment by real journalists
2014-11-21 07:35:02
 
Comment by joe smith
2014-11-21 07:56:09

^^ This. LOL.

Party line reptiles are just as bad as shitlibs in my book. They actually keep independent thinkers from becoming Republicans. Northeastern states have a high % of independent voters who detest the national GOP but come out in droves when there is a candidate they actually identify with. Maryland just elected a Republican gov again because of this. The national GOP seems hellbent on forcing its candidates to say ridiculous things and take social issue stands–even when a President couldn’t or wouldn’t take action on things like abortion. Look what the national GOP did to Romney, who was a pragmatist as Mass Gov. National GOP seems more interest in running up the margins in a region they’ll win anyway (south) than trying to compete in populated states with lots of independents.

 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-11-21 08:01:40

Liberace!

 
Comment by Rental Watch
2014-11-21 08:05:17

You know what’s not funny?

The President delayed this action with the hope it would help in the election (political driven leadership).

Despite the delay in that action, the President’s party just got shellacked, and I’m not just talking about gerrymandered House districts. I’m talking governors and senators.

The LOUD voice of America was for more bipartisanship.

And the first thing the President does, was piss on the will of the people with a massive executive action.

Here comes 2 more years of nothing good coming from DC.

 
Comment by scdave
2014-11-21 08:27:52

They actually keep independent thinkers from becoming Republicans ??

Or, conversely, they chase long time registered republicans out of the party and into the hands of independents…i.e….ME…

 
Comment by rj chicago
2014-11-21 09:45:39

I am becoming one of those chased away there Dave.
The whole cabal in DEE CEE and other locales across our once fair land is as evil and corrupt and litigenous (sp?) as any in the history of man. They just put lipstick on the pig - that is all.

 
Comment by MightyMike
2014-11-21 10:27:22

The LOUD voice of America was for more bipartisanship.

We hear this is a lot. The American people want the politicians to cut down on the bickering and sit down and work out deals. The polls do show that, the American people would prefer bipartisan legislation that to executive orders.

On the other hand, when polls ask how the problem should be solved, majorities often support a path to citizenship.

NBC News/Wall Street Journal Poll conducted by Hart Research Associates (D) and Public Opinion Strategies (R). Nov. 14-17, 2014. N=1,000 adults nationwide. Margin of error ± 3.1.

“As you may know, executive orders are actions taken by a president that can put some regulations into effect that do not require Congressional approval. President Obama has said that by the end of the year, he intends to take executive action on immigration. His executive action would stay in place unless or until Congress passed immigration reform legislation to take its place. Do you approve or disapprove of the president taking executive action on immigration, or do you not know enough to have an opinion at this time?” If unsure: “And, I know you said you do not know enough to have an opinion, but if you had to choose do you lean more toward approving or disapproving of the president taking executive action on immigration?”

Approve: 32%
Lean approve: 6%
Lean disapprove: 6%
Disapprove: 42%
Unsure: 14%

“Now, as you may know, there is a proposal to create a pathway to citizenship that would allow foreigners staying illegally in the United States the opportunity to eventually become legal American citizens. Do you strongly favor, somewhat favor, somewhat oppose, or strongly oppose this proposal?”

Strongly favor: 23%
Somewhat favor: 34%
Somewhat oppose: 15%
Strongly oppose: 25%
Depends (vol.)/Unsure: 3%

http://www.pollingreport.com/immigration.htm

 
Comment by Rental Watch
2014-11-21 14:57:03

Here’s the thing: if it was so critical that an executive action like this was needed immediately for the good of the country, and people would support it, why didn’t Obama do it MONTHS ago? Originally, he said he would do it BEFORE the election, until he probably had his pollsters tell him how unpopular it would be (42% disapprove).

The fact is, he waited months for political reasons, and wasn’t willing to wait another few months until the new senators were sworn in to see if a middle ground could be found.

 
 
Comment by mathguy
2014-11-21 12:35:47

oxide, wouldn’t it make more sense to ask our liberal paymasters to let the population live under the 15% capital gains rates?

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Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-11-21 21:31:06

Another Republitard diatribe. Get ready for lots more as the 2016 election approaches.

 
 
Comment by Shillow
2014-11-21 06:14:02

There are no limits on the power. I can’t wait for taxes to be lowered by fiat in conservative administrations via EO to the IRS.

By the way, of course this is just the first wave of what is to be allowed. 5 million will turn out in reality being 10-15 million. Big Dig budget mathematics at work here.

Comment by mathguy
2014-11-21 12:39:53

This would be great. Next republican president states: I only want you to prioritize tax cases against people who owe more than 1 million dollars. Let everyone else go…

 
 
Comment by joe smith
2014-11-21 07:48:04

No one here, that I know of, says that both parties are the same.

Realists know that both parties in Washington represent the same crust of people, they merely do it in different ways. The biggest differences between the parties are for show–the social and immigration issues are used to divide and distract the proles so that they can not focus on much more technical and difficult issues.

Since WW2, the US has truly become an “ownership” society, especially from the 1980s until today. The 1980s kicked “noblisse oblige” out the door–there was no more loyalty to country or standing up for the little guy. We became an Economy, not a Nation. The rules are now made for and used by the people who own assets and control resources. The most important rules in Washington have nothing to do with the issues you’ll see discussed on Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, etc. They’re very technical things related to government contracts, minutiae of banking rules, environmental/development rules, etc. It’s the same with your city hall and your state capital.

When you wake up from your delirium, perhaps you’ll realize a) who pays for campaigns, b) who actually writes bills that end up introduced in Congress, c) what part of society most congresspeople and federal judges come from, and d) how intricate our “entitlement programs” really are in terms of buying off key parts of the electorate with Medicare, Social Security, and so forth.

The people who own things in the US play both sides of the fence. Like I said, this is not new, this became common after WW2 and especially the 80s. Most people with money/power in the US could give 2 fu**s about the future of the country. That includes the elected reps in both parties, 2Ban. It’s not right, but it is smart.

Comment by real journalists
2014-11-21 08:29:48

+1

america isn’t a country, it’s a game

 
Comment by rj chicago
2014-11-21 09:46:54

+1 +1

 
 
Comment by reedalberger
2014-11-21 08:28:49

“We no longer have the rule of law in this country.”

18 Trillion in debt.
30 million non citizens collecting social services.
communist rent-a-mobs mobilizing to riot over the gentle giant.
President dictator and his girl Valerie in the oval office making law.

#ClowardAndPiven
#FundamentalTransformationOfAmerica

 
 
Comment by 2banana
2014-11-21 05:32:48

Phase II

‘Dreamers’ Vow to Fight On for Their Illegal-Immigrant Parents
WSJ | November 20, 2014 | MIRIAM JORDAN and ARIAN CAMPO-FLORES

Emboldened by a program that allowed them to remain in the U.S., hundreds of immigrant youths two years ago championed their next fight: to bring their illegal-immigrant parents out of the shadows, too.

“As we celebrate our victory, we remember our moms and dads…who are still undocumented,” Cristina Jimenez, managing director of United We Dream, which represents young undocumented people, told the conference in Kansas City, Mo.

Comment by Shillow
2014-11-21 06:19:58

Does anyone think that there is any realistic chance now of some Dreamers parents getting deported now after that speech last night? Please. Gonna play out just like Obamacare. Massive incompetence. Later revelations that what you were told was not the truth or the full story. Lots of negative “unanticipated” consequences that end up allowing way more than 5 million in. And in the end, everyone gets to stay, just like they planned.

Comment by nhtransplant
2014-11-21 06:28:51

So we’re getting Groobered on immigration as well?

Ah well I guess it’s for our own good.

Comment by Shillow
2014-11-21 06:52:26

They are politicians, therefore you have to ALWAYS assume Grubering. Then assume the position.

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Comment by Beer and Cigar Guy
2014-11-21 12:51:31

“That bloke deserves a jolly-good Grubering!” I like it. Its mine now. The rest of you just back away from it slowly…

 
 
 
Comment by oxide
2014-11-21 06:30:16

In a practical sense, I’m not sure Obama’s EO is going to do anything at all. So, he’s going to not deport people who are … not being deported anyway?

Now, if he had said.. “you all have six months to sign up and pay the fee, but after six months we go after your a$$es,” that would have been something real. But with this … big whoop. I don’t see any change. If I were an illegal I wouldn’t even bother.

Maybe Obama is just inviting Congress to pass that comprehensive bill, i.e. “Go ahead, pass a law, override me.”

Comment by Shillow
2014-11-21 06:47:13

Thank you for your talking point about something you know nothing about. It is 100 percent wrong. These people are being deported. Every day. We do not just deport criminals. Why do you think the Dreamers care?

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Comment by oxide
2014-11-21 07:33:23

I’m not sure I’d call it a talking point since I didn’t get it from anywhere else.

Eh well, so it’s going to take six months to get this all set up. I wonder how much the fees are going to cost? And will Congress pass a law by then?

 
Comment by mathguy
2014-11-21 12:53:17

We do not just deport criminals.

are you fully retarded? It is illegal to be here without a green card or citizen ship. If you get deported it is BECAUSE you are a criminal.

 
 
Comment by 2banana
2014-11-21 06:52:04

Maybe Obama is just inviting Congress to pass that comprehensive bill, i.e. “Go ahead, pass a law, override me.”

1. We already have immigration laws. Why does not the president enforce them? Why doesn’t he fulfill his oath of office? Oh, that’s right - making up laws gets him votes. Party before county…

2. Just a few years ago, democrats had a super majority in the house, a filibuster proof senate and obama in the white house. Why didn’t we get comprehensive immigration reform then? We got obamacare on Christmas eve. Why not immigration reform on New Year’s Day? Now it the highest priority for obama once republican have taken over the house and senate…hmmmm

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Comment by Guillotine Renovator
2014-11-21 19:42:01

“And in the end, everyone gets to stay, just like they planned.”

They’re already here. Did you think they were leaving or something?

 
 
Comment by joe smith
2014-11-21 08:00:59

They’re going to fight… and they will win. The opposition to the Dreamers doesn’t have persuasive, competent leaders. The “opposition” really isn’t opposition at all. The business community (chamber of commerce, etc.) actually _does_ want immigrants in the country–heck yes–they just don’t want them to be citizens with rights. They want them as cheaper labor. And, to a GOP lawmaker in Washington, it matters infinitely more what the WSJ or US Chamber of Commerce wants than what some rando southern white voter things. BTW, that southern white voter is going to vote GOP no matter what. And, even if a senator or rep loses his primary (see Eric Cantor), he actually wins. He gets a 7 figure job for life, just like Rick Santorum, Eric Cantor, etc. etc.

You’re silly if you can’t see this.

Comment by oxide
2014-11-21 10:00:23

Joe, is this why the immigration and border laws already on the books aren’t enforced? TwoBanana likes to blame this (and everything) on Obama, but the border and employment laws were never really enforced as far back as 1986 and probably before.

Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-11-21 10:57:59

If he’s not then who is? Who is in charge right now?

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Comment by Guillotine Renovator
2014-11-21 22:27:04

The bankers, dillweed.

 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-11-22 04:57:18

Ok. I’ll be here to remind you the next time you squeal like a little girl about any elected official.

 
 
 
 
Comment by In Colorado
2014-11-21 10:15:45

President Cruz will overturn Obama’s executive orders

 
 
Comment by 2banana
2014-11-21 05:39:41

FREE JOHN CORZINE!!!!

Wall Street Stunned As Iceland Dares To Jail Banker Involved In 2008 Crash
Tyler Durden - 11/20/2014 - Zero HEdge

The impossible is possible. Never say never. Wall Street bankers are staring agog at headlines coming from Europe where, in Iceland, the former chief executive of one of the largest banks in the country which was involved in crashing the economy in 2008 has been sentenced to jail time. As Valuewalk reports, in receiving a one year prison sentence, Sigurjon Arnason officially became the first bank executive to be convicted of manipulating the bank’s stock price and deceiving investors, creditors and the authorities between Sept. 29 and Oct. 3, 2008, as the bank’s fortunes unwound, crashing the economy with it. It appears he was as shocked by the verdict as Wall Street-ers are, “this sentence is a big surprise to me as I did nothing wrong.” It was likely all for the people’s own good…

Comment by MacBeth
2014-11-21 06:22:08

Good news.

Any news on whether Iceland is preparing to jail any government officials who were involved?

Comment by Beer and Cigar Guy
2014-11-21 12:58:23

Lock them in a cell with a bunch of drug-crazed, circus-freak, street-perverts and let them get Grubered. Grubered and Hillaried until they can’t walk. That’ll teach ‘em.

 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2014-11-21 14:01:27

Voters in Iceland demand accountability from their officials, unlike the Obama Zombies, McCain Mutants, and Romney Retards who willingly grabbed their ankles for Wall Street and its corporate-statist Republicrat water carriers.

 
 
Comment by iftheshoefits
2014-11-21 08:09:51

“Whenever a banker is locked up behind bars, an angel gets a star.”

Trying to get in the spirit of the season here…

 
 
Comment by 2banana
2014-11-21 05:51:03

Lower housing lending standards.

Make 5 million+ illegals criminals legal by executive fiat

Put not one banker in jail

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Obama Housing Bubble V 2.0

Feds Turn to Housing Market to Boost Slow Recovery
FreeBeacon.com | November 13, 2014 | Daniel Wiser

Federal regulators are attempting to lower credit and lending standards for home mortgage loans during a time when there is little demand for housing, some experts say, a move that could create another destabilizing bubble if the economy improves.

Comment by azdude
2014-11-21 06:21:58

It will give them an excise to print some more cash in the next bailout.

Comment by 2banana
2014-11-21 06:53:19

Who is “them?”

Comment by azdude02
2014-11-21 11:26:19

uncle fed

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Comment by iftheshoefits
2014-11-21 12:02:43

A lot of your enemies, as well as a lot of your heroes, it seems.

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Comment by rj chicago
2014-11-21 09:49:16

You gotta read E. Warren’s dressing down of (S)mel(l) Watt recently - an absolute clown show if there ever was one.

Comment by iftheshoefits
2014-11-21 12:06:55

From what I read, she thinks Mo Credik ain’t going anywhere near far enough - the government should buy down the balances of deadbeat homedebtors. Does anyone honestly think that is a good idea? Beyond the broke a$$ losers, of course, who think it’s mahhvelous.

 
 
 
Comment by 2banana
2014-11-21 05:56:41

Obama, and not cash, is king…

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Delusions of Grandeur direct from The King
Canada Free Press | 11/21/14 | Judi McLeod

It’s no longer everyone else’s imagination but purely his own: Obama, and not cash, is king.

Make Way for the King, the one that would sink his own country by overrunning it with people born elsewhere.

Kingly, in the sense of a King George III, Obama, who hasn’t graced the inside of a church in lo these many years, had the audacity to use scripture in last night’s televised address:

“During his address, Obama quoted the Book of Exodus, saying:

“Scripture tells us that we shall not oppress a stranger, for we know the heart of a stranger — we were strangers once, too. My fellow Americans, we are and always will be a nation of immigrants. We were strangers once, too.” (Matthew Vadum).

But the ‘Ego King’ was much less than kingly when he portrayed millions of Latinos he is saving from deportation with a wave of his magic wand as those who “pick our fruit and make our beds”.

Surely it is racist to portray all Latinos as the downstairs in the ‘Upstairs Downstairs’ caricature range.

What Obama really did with his latest fiat was to pounce on the Good Ship America, adrift for six long years on the open sea, to scuttle it.

Americans, whom he was elected to represent, are now figuratively swimming in a shark-infested sea without life jackets looking for any kind of driftwood to keep from perishing.

“When progressives say the system is broken, they mean it is functioning in a less than optimal manner, failing to capture every single prospective illegal alien available to wade across the Rio Grande or walk across the nation’s largely undefended border with Mexico. To them, immigration policy is a taxpayer-subsidized get-out-the-vote scheme for Democrats and the best reform they could imagine would be to abolish America’s borders altogether. Obama’s new amnesty plan is a step in this direction.

“It is also a profoundly cynical move that rewards lawbreaking and begets future immigration amnesties. It will spell electoral death for the Republican Party in coming years because “Latinos, who are believed to comprise the bulk of the illegals, have traditionally shown a strong preference for the Democratic Party and its left-of-center public policies. The amnesty for 5 million illegals is likely just the beginning. The government recently issued a procurement order seeking a contractor to make as many as 34 million immigration documents over the coming five years.”

Comment by reedalberger
2014-11-21 08:41:18

I am just wondering how anyone living in this country could possibly think that 20 to 40 million of the worlds poorest people coming here will improve the lives of American citizens.

Please someone tell me how this helps our country, and how it helps the millions of people already unemployed? Does it help our infrastructure? Our social service budgets? Our schools? Our Hospitals? African Americans?

Tell me.

#FundamentalTransformationOfAmerica

Comment by Mr. Banker
2014-11-21 09:22:48

“I am just wondering how anyone living in this country could possibly think that 20 to 40 million of the worlds poorest people coming here will improve the lives of American citizens.”

It’s not about improving the lives of American citizens it’s about improving lives of the One-Percenters - some of whom just may be American citizens and many who are not.

“Please someone tell me how this helps our country, and how it helps the millions of people already unemployed?”

Think in Global terms instead of National terms and maybe you’ll get an idea of what it’s all about.

Comment by Mr. Banker
2014-11-21 09:44:50

Here’s a hint:

If you think in Nationalistic terms then you will have a lot in common (or think you have a lot in common) with those who live in the same nation as yourself.

But if you think in Globalistic terms then what you will have in common with other people will not be restricted to national borders, instead it will encompass the entire planet - your common ground as a Globalist will include in everyone else who is a Globalist and will shut out every else who is not.

You as a Globalist may have more in common with someone who lives in, say Paris, then you will have in common with the people who live on your street. That is, of course, unless everyone else who lives on your street are also Globalists which just may be the case if you are a One Percenter.

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Comment by oxide
2014-11-21 10:04:10

The Banker man has it right. When someone in a truck goes to the Home Depot parking lot to pick a few guys to do fall cleanup in the garden, he’s not thinking of social service budgets, just his own.

And if he doesn’t pick up those guys for rock bottom prices, his competitor will, and drive him out of business.

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Comment by Oddfellow
2014-11-21 10:03:53

“Tell me.”

I think the argument is that it worked out well when we let the Germans/Irish/Scottish/Italians etcetera in, so why shouldn’t it work out well now?

Comment by reedalberger
2014-11-21 17:39:16

The difference is entitlements.

#FundamentalTransformationOfAmerica

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Comment by rj chicago
2014-11-21 09:50:50

“Scripture tells us that we shall not oppress a stranger, for we know the heart of a stranger — we were strangers once, too. My fellow Americans, we are and always will be a nation of immigrants. We were strangers once, too.” (Matthew Vadum).

Ya know…..Even the devil knows and recited scripture to the Christ.
Sheesh.

 
Comment by MightyMike
2014-11-21 10:36:39

But the ‘Ego King’ was much less than kingly when he portrayed millions of Latinos he is saving from deportation with a wave of his magic wand as those who “pick our fruit and make our beds”.

Surely it is racist to portray all Latinos as the downstairs in the ‘Upstairs Downstairs’ caricature range.

Was he referring to all Latinos? He was probably just referring to those who would be affected by his executive order. By the way, that includes people from all over the world, not just Latinos.

Comment by Dale
2014-11-21 17:52:07

I thought he was the Lyin’ King.

 
 
 
Comment by 2banana
2014-11-21 06:02:09

For all you Pat B fans…

——————

THE IMPERIAL PRESIDENCY: Caesar Obama
http://www.wnd.com | 11/20/14 | Pat Buchanan

Asserting a legal and constitutional authority he himself said he did not have, President Obama is going rogue, issuing an executive amnesty to 4 to 5 million illegal aliens.

He will order the U.S. government not to enforce the law against these 5 million and declare that they are to be exempt from deportation and granted green cards.

Where did Obama get his 4-5 million figure, not 2-4 million, or 5-7 million? Nowhere in law, but plucked out of his own mind, as to what he can get away with. Barack Obama just felt it was about right.

Thus does our constitutional law professor-president “faithfully execute” the laws of the United States he has twice swore to uphold?

Our rogue president has crossed an historic line, and so has the republic. Future presidents will cite the “Obama precedent” when they declare they will henceforth not enforce this or that law, because of a prior commitment to some noisy constituency.

The political, psychological and moral effects of Obama’s action will be dramatic. Sheriffs, border patrol and immigration authorities, who have put their lives on the line to secure our broken borders, have been made to look like fools. Resentment and cynicism over Obama’s action will be deeply corrosive to all law enforcement.

Businessmen who obeyed the law and refused to hire illegals, hiring Americans and legal immigrants instead, and following U.S. and state law on taxes, wages and withholding, also look like fools today.

Bosses who hired illegals off the books will also receive de facto amnesty. La Raza is celebrating. But, make no mistake, a corrupt corporate crowd is also publicly relieved and privately elated.

Immigrants who waited in line for years to come to America, and those waiting still, have egg on their faces. Why, they are saying to themselves, were we so stupid as to obey U.S. laws, when it is the border-jumpers who are now on the way to residency and citizenship?

When the world hears of the Obama amnesty, millions more from Latin America, Africa, Asia and the Middle East will be coming. And if they cannot get in legally, they will walk in, or fly in, and overstay their visas. Why not? It works.

One wonders. Will poor and working class blacks and whites, Hispanics and Asians, welcome this unleashed competition from the amnestied illegals, for jobs where the wages never seem to rise?

Running in 2008, Obama said he intended to become a “transformational president.” With this decision, he succeeds.

He has accelerated and ensured the remaking of America. Now when the wives and children of the illegals arrive, and their extended families apply for and receive visas, and bring their wives and children, we will become the Third World country of Obama’s dream, no more a Western nation.

But then, the community organizer did not much like that old America.

Comment by MacBeth
2014-11-21 06:32:24

Guess it’s time for another equivalency:

Hope and Change = Domestic Imperialism

Comment by 2banana
2014-11-21 06:54:56

War is peace…

 
 
 
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Comment by 2banana
2014-11-21 07:21:23

Anyone remember this obama?

“Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that ‘‘the buck stops here.’’ Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better. I therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase America’s debt limit.

“The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion for the first 42 presidents – #43 added $4 trillion by his lonesome, so that we now have over $9 trillion of debt that we are going to have to pay back — $30,000 for every man, woman and child. That’s irresponsible. It’s unpatriotic.”
– obama’s 2006 Debt Ceiling Speech

Comment by phony scandals
2014-11-21 07:28:28

U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time
http://www.usdebtclock.org/ - 106k - Cached - Similar pages
US National Debt Clock : Real Time U.S. National Debt Clock.

 
Comment by rj chicago
2014-11-21 09:52:10

He lied again - that is all.

 
 
Comment by real journalists
2014-11-21 07:28:11

new york times - obama, daring congress, acts to overhaul immigration

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/21/us/obama-immigration-speech.html

washington post - obama acts on immigration, announcing decision to defer deportations of 4 million

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-acts-on-immigration-announcing-decision-to-defer-deportations-of-4-million/2014/11/20/9a5c3856-70f6-11e4-8808-afaa1e3a33ef_story.html?tid=HP_lede?tid=HP_lede

los angeles times - in l.a., relief and joy greet obama’s immigration plan

http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-1121-obama-immigration-reaction-20141121-story.html

msnbc - millions wake without fear as executive actions sink in

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/millions-wake-without-fear-executive-actions-sink

bloomberg - obama makes good on immigration promise, despite political risks

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2014-11-21/obama-makes-good-on-immigration-promise

huffington post - obama moves to protect millions from deportation

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/20/obama-immigration-plan_n_6178774.html

 
Comment by MightyMike
2014-11-21 07:34:30

Whatever Happened to Overtime?

It’s one reason we’re poorer than our parents. And Obama could fix it—without Congress.

By NICK HANAUER
November 17, 2014

If you’re in the American middle class—or what’s left of it—here’s how you probably feel. You feel like you’re struggling harder than your parents did, working longer hours than ever before, and yet falling further and further behind. The reason you feel this way is because most of you are—falling further behind, that is. Adjusted for inflation, average salaries have actually dropped since the early 1970s, while hours for full-time workers have steadily climbed.

Meanwhile, a handful of wealthy capitalists like me are growing wealthy beyond our parents’ wildest dreams, in large part because we’re able to take advantage of your misfortune.

So what’s changed since the 1960s and ’70s? Overtime pay, in part. Your parents got a lot of it, and you don’t. And it turns out that fair overtime standards are to the middle class what the minimum wage is to low-income workers: not everything, but an indispensable labor protection that is absolutely essential to creating a broad and thriving middle class. In 1975, more than 65 percent of salaried American workers earned time-and-a-half pay for every hour worked over 40 hours a week. Not because capitalists back then were more generous, but because it was the law. It still is the law, except that the value of the threshold for overtime pay—the salary level at which employers are required to pay overtime—has been allowed to erode to less than the poverty line for a family of four today. Only workers earning an annual income of under $23,660 qualify for mandatory overtime. You know many people like that? Probably not. By 2013, just 11 percent of salaried workers qualified for overtime pay, according to a report published by the Economic Policy Institute. And so business owners like me have been able to make the other 89 percent of you work unlimited overtime hours for no additional pay at all.

In my defense, I’m only playing by the rules—rules written by and for wealthy capitalists like me. But the main point is this: These are rules that President Barack Obama has the power to change with the stroke of a pen, and with no prior congressional approval. The president could, on his own, restore federal overtime standards to where they were at their 1975 peak, covering the same 65 percent of salaried workers who were covered 40 years ago. If he did that, about 10.4 million Americans would suddenly be earning a lot more than they are now. Last March, Obama asked the Labor Department to update “outdated” regulations that mean, as the president put it in his memo, “millions of Americans lack the protections of overtime and even the right to the minimum wage.” But Obama was not specific about the changes he wanted to see.

So let me be specific. To get the country back to the same equitable standards we had in 1975, the Department of Labor would simply have to raise the overtime threshold to $69,000. In other words, if you earn $69,000 or less, the law would require that you be paid overtime when you worked more than 40 hours a week. That’s 10.4 million middle-class Americans with more money in their pockets or more time to spend with friends and family. And if corporate America didn’t want to pay you time and a half, it would need to hire hundreds of thousands of additional workers to pick up the slack—slashing the unemployment rate and forcing up wages.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/11/overtime-pay-obama-congress-112954.html#ixzz3JiJ3ZTF8

Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-11-21 07:45:42

Overtime went away with the job.

You’re all in on deporting jobs. And all in on not deport illegals. Strange that is.

Comment by MightyMike
2014-11-21 07:58:30

Everything that you wrote there is wrong. Congratulations, that’s a perfect score.

Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-11-21 08:05:49

I agree both are wrong. So why champion any of them?

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Comment by MightyMike
2014-11-21 10:10:18

I meant wrong as in incorrect, false.

 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-11-21 10:54:01

And I agree. Both actions are wrong.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Dman
2014-11-21 08:13:41

Putting more money into the hands of middle class people who will spend it is the best thing we could do for the economy, but for some reason dems don’t want to talk about it, and repubs will claim that paying workers more will harm the “job creators.” Right now, those job creators have their money stashed overseas because they don’t want to pay taxes on it. But I have a feeling that tax amnesty will just mean more stock buybacks and executive bonuses. Those job creators don’t really seem to care about jobs, in this country at least.

Comment by 2banana
2014-11-21 08:28:25

You can’t have overtime without jobs.

Name one thing - ONE THING - that obama has done in the last 6 years to encourage job creation and job growth.

To encourage small businesses and new businesses to start.

To encourage foreign businesses to set up shop here.

America has turned in Chicago. If you are not connected with the regime somehow - your only option is to minimize or get out.

 
Comment by reedalberger
2014-11-21 08:44:52

“Putting more money into the hands of middle class people who will spend it is the best thing we could do for the economy”

Continuously streaming in tens of millions of the worlds poorest and uneducated will help.

#FundamentalTransformationOfAmerica

 
 
Comment by Mr. Banker
2014-11-21 09:31:49

“In other words, if you earn $69,000 or less, the law would require that you be paid overtime when you worked more than 40 hours a week.”

Bahahahahaha … what’s this “40 hours a week” nonsense you speak of?

Make it so ALL of your employees are PART TIME workers and all your paying-them-overtime headaches will go away.

Or, better yet, convince your employees that they should become interns and you won’t have to pay them at all!

Bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

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Comment by Army No Va
2014-11-21 11:07:59

It’s easily worked around. Think Uber but for workers as independet contractors. Or IBM’s liquid workforce vision.

 
 
Comment by phony scandals
2014-11-21 07:36:12

“when she was asked if the illegals would get annual payments under the Earned Income Tax Credit program.”

“They are subject to our tax law,” she said, carefully.

Obama: US Taxpayers Must Pay For Illegals’ Children

6:00 PM 11/20/2014
Neil Munro
White House Correspondent

Illegal immigrants will receive huge payments from American taxpayers under rules now being imposed by President Barack Obama’s unilateral amnesty.

The illegals will get work-permits and Social Security cards, and will be required to pay taxes, according to Cecilia Munoz, the former immigration lobbyist who is now a top Obama aide.

That means they’re part of the tax system, she said, when she was asked if the illegals would get annual payments under the Earned Income Tax Credit program.

“They are subject to our tax law,” she said, carefully.

Most households of illegals have very low income, and pay little in taxes. For example, in 2011, roughly 22 percent of immigrant households — both legal and illegal — were classified as living in poverty. In contrast, only 13 percent of American households were in poverty.

However, once illegal immigrants are enrolled in the tax system, they would be entitled to EITC payments.

The payments may be huge, and will rise each year.

According to the Internal Revenue Service, two parents with three or more children would receive up to $6,143 in 2014 if they earn less than $46,997.

A family with two kids, and an income of $20,000, would receive $14,590 in taxpayer funds this year alone.

Parents who earn less than the threshold would get $3,305 if they have one child, and $5,460 if they have two children.

The EITC program is already poorly monitored and may be subject to large amounts of fraud, according to critics.

Another study says that 47 percent of legal and illegal immigrants and their children are classified as living in poverty or in near-poverty, according to the Center for Immigration Studies, which favors reduced annual immigration.

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Comment by phony scandals
2014-11-21 08:00:44

Federal funding to La Raza more than doubled after former VP joined Obama administration

Joe Schoffstall • July 07, 2014

Federal funding surged to a radical immigration group under the Obama administration after a former top member of the organization joined the Obama team in 2009.

In 2009, Cecilia Muñoz was appointed as the Deputy Assistant to the President and Director of Intergovernmental Affairs in the Obama administration. She served in this position until January of 2012 when she became the President’s Domestic Policy Advisor and the Director of the Domestic Policy Council, a position which coordinates the domestic policy making process in the White House.

Muñoz is the former Vice President for the Office of Research, Advocacy, and Legislation for the National Council of La Raza (NCLR), one of the most radical groups today behind the push for a compete overhaul of the United States immigration system. She is married to Amit Muñoz-Pandya, a human rights lawyer and former counselor to the Open Society Institute, which was established and funded by liberal billionaire George Soros.

Prior to Muñoz joining the Obama administration, La Raza received $4.1 million in federal funds. When President Obama brought her aboard in 2009, he issued a special “ethics waiver” since it violated his lobbyist ban. In 2011, it was reported by Judicial Watch that between 2009 and 2010, the funding increased from $4.1 million to $11 million — more than doubling and nearly tripling.

During 2010, La Raza also received $2.5 million in funds from the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) for reasons such as housing counseling. The Department of Education doled out $800,000, and the Center for Disease Control gave nearly a quarter of a million.

It continues, “Our housing and community development financing is carried out through our subsidiary, the Raza Development Fund (RDF). Established in 1999, the mission of RDF is to bring private capital and development assistance to local organizations serving Latino families in areas such as affordable housing, primary health care, and educational facilities. The RDF board of directors includes experts in housing and community programs as well as representatives from a number of prominent private financial institutions, including Bank of America, State Farm Insurance Company, Citi, and JPMorgan Chase.”

La Raza is still heavily active and vocal in today’s current immigration battle as their president and CEO, Janet Murguia, recently appeared on MSNBC calling protesters who drove away buses of illegal aliens from being dumped in their town appalling and extremists.

Murguia is a former deputy assistant to President Bill Clinton. According to La Raza’s website, she also sits on the board of directors of the American Heart Association and the Partnership for a Healthier America. Additionally, she is on the executive committee of The Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights and serves as the board chair for the Hispanic Association on Corporate Responsibility. Her sister, Mary Helen, and brother, Carlos, are both federal judges.

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2014-11-21 12:24:37

Comment by phony scandals
2014-11-21 08:00:44

Federal funding to La Raza more than doubled after former VP joined Obama administration
Joe Schoffstall • July 07, 2014

http://capitolcityproject.com/federal-funding-la-raza-nearly-tripled-former-vp-joined-obama-administration/

 
 
 
Comment by ann gogh
2014-11-21 07:52:49

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2556457/

Cruz does Cicero speech to protest obamas executive action on immigration!
en. Ted Cruz took to the Senate floor Thursday to deliver a slightly changed version of a very old speech as a form of protest against President Obama’s planned executive action on immigration.

The Texas Republican, in a four-minute address, gave a gently edited version of Cicero’s first oration against Catiline.

Obama was substituted for Catiline, the U.S./Mexico border was swapped in for the Palatine Hill, “women” was added to references to men, “pen and phone” made an appearance, “execution” was changed to “defeat” and the IRS scandal showed up near the end.

The video is above, and the text of Cicero’s original address is below.

Comment by Dman
2014-11-21 08:18:46

Except that Cicero was a noble Roman, and Ted Cruz is a Texas gimp.

Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2014-11-21 14:07:15

I object, sir, to you calling Ted Cruz a “Texas Gimp.” He is a Goldman Sachs gimp whose wife, a director at Goldman, will be the cutout to issue Lloyd Blankfiein’s orders from the oligarchy. And he is a charlatan when he passes himself off as a “conservative” for the benefit of the low IQs who voted for Bush and McCain.

 
 
Comment by 2banana
2014-11-21 08:21:34

Pretty good speech.

Which side are you on? Ooopps, I forgot the meme when corrupt democrats are in power - there is no difference between political parties…

———————–
III. The First Oration Against Catiline
Cicero (106 B.C.–43 B.C.)

WHEN, O Catiline, do you mean to cease abusing our patience? How long is that madness of yours still to mock us? When is there to be an end of that unbridled audacity of yours, swaggering about as it does now? Do not the nightly guards placed on the Palatine Hill—do not the watches posted throughout the city—does not the alarm of the people, and the union of all good men—does not the precaution taken of assembling the senate in this most defensible place—do not the looks and countenances of this venerable body here present, have any effect upon you? Do you not feel that your plans are detected? Do you not see that your conspiracy is already arrested and rendered powerless by the knowledge which every one here possesses of it? What is there that you did last night, what the night before—where is it that you were—who was there that you summoned to meet you—what design was there which was adopted by you, with which you think that any one of us is unacquainted?

In short, as often as you attacked me, I by myself opposed you, and that, too, tho I saw that my ruin was connected with great disaster to the republic. But now you are openly attacking the entire republic.

But it is worth while to incur that, as long as that is but a private misfortune of my own, and is unconnected with the dangers of the republic. But we can not expect that you should be concerned at your own vices, that you should fear the penalties of the laws, or that you should yield to the necessities of the republic, for you are not, O Catiline, one whom either shame can recall from infamy, or fear from danger, or reason from madness.

You will go at last where your unbridled and mad desire has been long hurrying you. And this causes you no grief, but an incredible pleasure. Nature has formed you, desire has trained you, fortune has preserved you for this insanity. Not only did you never desire quiet, but you never even desired any war but a criminal one; you have collected a band of profligates and worthless men, abandoned not only by all fortune but even by hope.

With these omens, O Catiline, be gone to your impious and nefarious war, to the great safety of the republic, to your own misfortune and injury, and to the destruction of those who have joined themselves to you in every wickedness and atrocity. Then do you, O Jupiter, who were consecrated by Romulus with the same auspices as this city, whom we rightly call the stay of this city and empire, repel this man and his companions from your altars and from the other temples,—from the houses and walls of the city,—from the lives and fortunes of all the citizens; and overwhelm all the enemies of good men, the foes of the republic, the robbers of Italy, men bound together by a treaty and infamous alliance of crimes, dead and alive, with eternal punishments.

 
Comment by Bring Back the WPA
2014-11-21 09:24:48

Ted Cruz is a conservative version of Huey Long — a populist jingoist who puts dramatic showmanship ahead of the facts. Truly a charlatan and a mountebank. I disagree with most of what he says but I do give him high marks for being entertaining.

Comment by iftheshoefits
2014-11-21 12:13:25

His wife is a director at Goldman Sachs. I would say he’s more like a conservative version of Elizabeth Warren. Both are complete frauds.

 
Comment by Scored by CBO
2014-11-21 17:26:10

He’s GOP’s Obama. Complete fraud.

 
 
 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-11-21 07:58:40

“The landscape is scattered with dead, down, crippled debt donkeys.”

Time to pitch more wood on the fire.

Comment by 2banana
2014-11-21 08:35:41

Nah - they are all victims and deserve a government bail-out

 
Comment by Dman
2014-11-21 09:35:37

Cliff Clavin!

Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-11-21 09:42:23

Speaking of debt donkeys….

Comment by Dman
2014-11-21 09:50:16

Heeeeee Haaaaaaw!

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Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-11-21 09:36:12

…. Housing’s Cratering…. Kumbaya….

 
Comment by rj chicago
2014-11-21 10:01:53

” U.S. House Speaker John Boehner said Friday that President Barack Obama’s executive action on immigration has sabotaged chances for bipartisan legislation.

Boehner said that House Republicans intend to fight the president’s action announced in a Thursday night speech, but did not detail a preferred course of action. He indicated that Obama’s decision to use his executive authority and bypass the U.S. Congress, where legislation has stalled, could taint future efforts.”

You go get ‘em there Johnny - go on there boy - go get ‘em.
Given the history of Johnny - well never mind.

 
Comment by Mr. Banker
2014-11-21 11:18:32

Jokes that write themselves:

“In an unexpected move Friday, China’s central bank cut interest rates. The rate cut is intended to jump start slowing growth. China’s economic growth fell to a five-year low last quarter. Manufacturing and other key economic indicators have been weak.

“The People’s Bank of China said the move did not signal a change in monetary policy, and conditions in the world’s second largest economy are within an “appropriate range.”

Bahahahaha … no change in monetary policy here, no sir.

“In Frankfurt, Mario Draghi, president of the European Central Bank, said the ECB will use more aggressive measures like large scale asset purchases – read: quantitative easing - to prevent the euro zone from falling into a new crisis. “We will continue to meet our responsibility,” Draghi said in his speech. “We will do what we must to raise inflation and inflation expectations as fast as possible.”

“We will continue to meet our responsibility” - Bahahahahahaha

“We will do what we must to raise inflation and inflation expectations as fast as possible.”

Bahahahahaha … it used to be that inflation was considered to be a BAD THING but now it is touted as the thing that will somehow save us all.

“The Chinese and European central banks’ moves are a sign global economies are in very different places than their U.S. counterpart. “Here we have two other very large central banks joining Japan in being very aggressive in trying to get out of the deflationary trap, trying to make things grow faster while in the U.S. the Federal Reserve is looking for an opportunity to do the opposite,” Yahoo Finance Senior Columnist Michael Santoli says.”

But … but … but the U.S. leadership (choke) ALSO said they want to get inflation up an going so as to save our stupid asses.

Go here for some more laughs:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/as-global-central-banks-talk-stimulus–u-s–looks-to-do-opposite-151012538.html

 
Comment by Biggvs Richardvs
2014-11-21 12:38:45

Just wanted to pull this forward and continue:

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-11-20 19:31:40

When and if interest rates eventually increase, gold fundamentals are likely to further deteriorate, at which point the crash to date will be exacerbated.

I think you’re absolutely correct - when cash becomes more scarce/expensive(higher interest), it’s value relative to most everything else increases, thus fewer dollars needed to trade for goods, thus lower prices, including gold. Supply and demand.

I think some people out there have the bizarre idea that when interest rates go up this causes or goes hand in hand with inflation. I’ve seen news stories that stated as much, fairly authoritatively.

The demand curve for dollars is basically a vertical line. And I’m not talking relative to other currencies - that’s a separate(even if somewhat related) discussion.

Thus when there are fewer of them available(higher interest), prices (the number of the dollars traded for a good or basket of goods) must eventually drop. Basic S&D. I’m often shocked at how completely clueless journalists, even FINANCIAL journalists seem to be about this simple reality.

Not that I’m complaining - it does create some very nice arbitrage potential….

Comment by Combotechie
2014-11-21 13:44:56

“The demand curve for dollars is basically a vertical line.”

Go here for a peek of the velocity of these dollars:

http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/M2V/

Apparently once people get hold of these worthless, useless, unbacked, fiat paper dollar thingys they are a bit reluctant to let go of them.

Comment by azdude
2014-11-21 16:26:49

yeah you can drop a gazillion dollars from a helicopter but if the velocity of the money doesn’t increase you still have a sh@ty economy.

Do you think inflating asset prices offsets the inflationary pressures of consumable goods?

Is there a limit to increasing asset prices before the return is negative?

With home prices it seems you basically run into issues with the payment/ income issue.

From what ive seen we have had some asset bubbles popped and then more money is printed to mop them up and start over.The system is real dependent on asset prices going up.

 
 
Comment by Mr. Banker
2014-11-21 13:56:20

“I’m often shocked at how completely clueless journalists, even FINANCIAL journalists seem to be about this simple reality.”

These journalists are held to a standard set by their readers. If you are shocked by the cluelessness of this then you definitely need to get out more often.

 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-11-21 14:09:07

Don’t forget that the Fed has staked out a doctrine that says deflation is destructive for the global economy. So don’t expect interest rates to adjust upwards significantly without a significant increase in inflationary pressure.

Comment by azdude
2014-11-21 16:13:59

Is inflation growth?

Comment by Neuromance
2014-11-21 17:15:42

The only question one has to ask to inform themselves whether the Fed will do something is, “Is it good for the banks?”

What is good for the banks? Policies that will encourage indebtedness to them. Policies that keeps profit rolling in over the life of the loan.

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Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-11-21 21:33:56

No, but it is devaluation of the money in your savings account whose value would go up under deflation.

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Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-11-21 14:06:36

Got tapeworms?

Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2014-11-21 14:23:25

If you like your tapeworms, you can keep your tapeworms.

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-11-21 21:37:32

To my knowledge, I don’t have them. But I do have a lovely article to share, which likens housing bubbles to tapeworms.

 
 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-11-21 21:40:01

FT Magazine
Undercover Economist
November 21, 2014 3:49 pm
Why a house-price bubble means trouble
Tim Harford
A housing boom is the economic equivalent of a tapeworm infection

Buying a house is not just a big deal, it’s the biggest. Marriage and children may bring more happiness – or misery, if you’re unlucky – but few of us will ever sign a bigger cheque than the one that buys that big pile of bricks, mortar and dry rot.

It would be nice to report that buyers and sellers are paragons of rationality, and the housing market itself a well-oiled machine that makes a sterling contribution to the working of the broader economy. None of that is true. House buyers are delusional, the housing market is broken and a housing boom is the economic equivalent of a tapeworm infection.

As a sample of the madness, consider the popular concept of “affordability”. This idea is pushed by the UK’s Financial Conduct Authority and seems simple common sense: affordability asks whether potential buyers have enough income to meet their mortgage repayments. That question is reasonable, of course – but it is only a first step, because it ignores inflation.

To see the problem, contrast today’s low-inflation economies with the high inflation of the 1970s and 1980s. Back then, paying off your mortgage was a sprint: a few years during which prices and wages were increasing in double digits, while you struggled with mortgage rates of 10 per cent and more. After five years of that, inflation had eroded the value of the debt and mortgage repayments shrank dramatically in real terms.

Today, a mortgage is a marathon. Interest rates are low, so repayments seem affordable. Yet with inflation low and wages stagnant, they’ll never become more affordable. Low inflation means that a 30-year mortgage really is a 30-year mortgage rather than five years of hell followed by an extended payment holiday. The previous generation’s rules of thumb no longer apply.

Because you are a sophisticated reader of the Financial Times you have, no doubt, figured all this out for yourself. Most house buyers have not. Nor are they being warned. I checked a couple of the most prominent online “affordability” calculators. Inflation simply wasn’t mentioned, even though in the long run it will affect affordability more than anything else.

 
 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2014-11-21 14:10:51

Now imagine a United States where you had to have an IQ in excess of 100 and put more into the system in taxes than you take out in benefits as a condition of voting. 99% of the stoopids, i.e. the Obama Zombies, McCain Mutants, and Romney Retards, would in one fell swoop be removed from the voting pool, and we’d have a better class of candidate from which to choose. One can only hope….

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11241203/The-Libertarians-planning-to-take-over-New-Hampshire.html

Nirvana for a libertarian in New Hampshire is a gay married couple guarding a stash of marijuana with an AK47.

“I could live with that,” said Ian Freeman, a leading light of the Free State Project and one of the pathfinders in a mass migration of like-minded people to the New England state.

He left Florida and moved to New Hampshire to push the libertarian agenda in a state whose motto is “Live free or die” - one of more than 1,600 to have done so.

They are the first tranche of 16,000 people who have pledged to up sticks and make the state a “beacon of liberty”.

 
Comment by Tarara Boomdea
2014-11-21 14:38:33

200 Anti-immigration protesters outside Del Sol HS according to the local Las Vegas news. Reporter says Obama avoided them by coming in another way.

Comment by 2banana
2014-11-21 16:07:55

LBJ memories anyone?

Comment by rms
2014-11-21 18:54:21

We [shall] ov’a-cooom. :)

 
 
 
Comment by real journalists
2014-11-21 16:15:05

Region VIII

Comment by phony scandals
2014-11-21 17:02:33

Region IV

North American Union

Comment by goon squad
2014-11-21 19:23:02

Region VIII

(You Caught Me) Smilin’ - Sly and The Family Stone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9fMeXJeaJs

 
 
 
Comment by phony scandals
2014-11-21 17:00:13

New DHS immigration rules: Drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders not top deportation priorities

By Byron York | November 21, 2014 | 3:38 pm

The Department of Homeland Security has just released new “Policies for the Apprehension, Detention, and Removal of Undocumented Immigrants.” Designed to fill in the details after President Obama’s announcement that at least four million currently illegal immigrants will be given work permits, Social Security numbers and protection from deportation, the DHS guidelines are instructions for the nation’s immigration and border security officers as they administer the president’s directive.

The new priorities are striking. On the tough side, the president wants U.S. immigration authorities to go after terrorists, felons, and new illegal border crossers. On the not-so-tough side, the administration views convicted drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, and gun offenders as second-level enforcement priorities. An illegal immigrant could spend up to a year in prison for a violent crime and still not be a top removal priority for the Obama administration.

In the memo, DHS Secretary Jeh Johnson says his department must develop “smart enforcement priorities” to exercise “prosecutorial discretion” in order to best use his agency’s limited resources. Johnson establishes three enforcement priority levels to guide DHS officers as they decide whether to stop, hold, or prosecute an illegal immigrant.

Priority two offenders, whose cases are less urgent then criminals in priority one, include the following:

aliens convicted of a “significant misdemeanor,” which for these purposes is an offense of domestic violence; sexual abuse or exploitation; burglary; unlawful possession or use of a firearm; drug distribution or trafficking; or driving under the influence; or if not an offense listed above, one for which the individual was sentenced to time in custody of 90 days or more (the sentence must involve time to be served in custody, and does not include a suspended sentence)

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/…/article/2556517/comments - 70k -

 
Comment by tresho
2014-11-21 18:32:13

The horror — £1m lottery winner can’t get a mortgage because his credit rating isn’t good enough

‘I was going to buy a load of houses with mortgages and then get people into rent them to pay for the mortgage.
‘But mortgage lenders don’t see the interest of an investment as income so, in effect I am a millionaire, but I can’t even get a mortgage.’

 
Comment by Neuromance
2014-11-21 18:44:19

1) Voters elect politicians.
2) Politicians make the rules.
3) Wall Street heavily influences politicians.
4) Voters make no connection between Wall Street transgressions, their own quality of life, and politicians.
5) Profit.

CEO Compensation: “Cheaters Prosper”: http://neweconomicperspectives.org/2014/11/ceo-compensation-cheaters-prosper.html … When the intellectual father of modern exec comp says it’s become a monster….

Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2014-11-21 20:28:01

1. Oligarch globalists hand-pick pliable, unprincipled candidates and use the controlled media to sell “the message” (i.e. ‘hope ‘n change’) to dolts.

2. The Republicrat Duopoly stages its meaningless Kabuki theater, whereby oligarch-vetted candidates who stand for exactly the same thing - corporate statism - run on meaningless slogans like “hope ‘n change we can believe in” or “tax cuts.”

3. The American populace, dumbed down genetically and by the oligarch-controlled media and indoctrination processes of what used to be public education, lurches into the voting booths and votes for one or the other candidate in the Republicrat Duopoly’s puppet show, with the only degree of difference between the candidate being how they sell their zeal in being Wall Street and AIPAC fluffers.

4. One or the other globalist, corporate-statist candidate gets elected, and the sheeple, to their dismay, get reacquainted with the concept of “meet the new boss, same as the old boss.” However, in their bovine stupidity, they will vote for the status quo in local, state, and federal elections.

 
 
 
Comment by Selfish Hoarder
2014-11-21 21:41:04

The tide toward giving amnesty eventually toward the 20 million illegals in the USA should be a gift to us who want to save.

This is another bubble blowing opportunity. The establishment and the Fed are frantically blowing bubbles to keep business going before the house of cards fall. They don’t want it to fall during their terms of office.

This will give you more years to load up on stock index funds and shift gains slowly into movable hidable wealth, cash, and bitcoin.

When the music stops and you have two decades worth of movable hidable wealth while others you know have two months worth, you can write your own ticket out of the cesspool.

 
Comment by phony scandals
2014-11-22 05:39:15

phony scandals

 
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