January 8, 2015

Seeing A Buyer Push Back

The Houston Chronicle reports from Texas. “After accelerating for the past several years, Houston-area builders will tap the brakes on new home construction in 2015, a prominent economist told a sold-out crowd. Mark Dotzour, chief economist and director of research for Texas A&M University’s Real Estate Center, said he expects builders to start construction on between 20,000 and 30,000 homes in 2015. Dotzour, who dedicated much of his talk to global politics and the reason oil prices will rebound, stayed away from dire predictions about the local housing market. ‘There’s no chance you’re going to see a generalized price decline with houses in Houston even if home sales fall off 50 percent,’ he said. ‘There’s a lot of risk, but it’s not the end of the world,’ he said. ‘Try to avoid getting too heavy in debt.’”

From Crain’s New York. “After three super-heated years, the market for the city’s priciest new condominiums appears to be cooling off a bit. In recent weeks, signs of the chill have even popped up at One57, the bellwether of the nosebleed niche. ‘We have some new developments that are beautiful but are aggressively priced, and we’re seeing a buyer push back,’ said Stephen Kliegerman, president of Halstead Property Development Marketing, who pins much of the blame on supply. ‘There is a lot of product coming out at the high end of the market, and buyers in some cases feel it’s in their best interest to wait and see.’”

The Daily Business Review in Florida. “New numbers from the MLS and Miami Association of Realtors suggest the tide might be turning for older properties that prospered from the lack of new inventory when developers stopped building in the wake of the housing crash. After months of rapid growth, Miami-Dade County home sales declined 9.2 percent in November. Especially hard hit were condominiums, where sales dropped 16 percent to 1,077 units compared to 1,274 a year earlier. Marketers are now at work selling more than 16,000 condos in 90 projects, with deals sealed on more than 64 percent of the units and average prices around $820 per square foot, according to market data from Condo Vultures LLC and the Realtors association.”

“Meanwhile, nine towers rose last year in a bustling Miami corridor east of I-95, offering 981 units. Another 66 projects with nearly 9,600 units are under construction, while 126 towers with more than 18,000 condos are in the development pipeline. Buyers continue to gravitate to new high rises, but marketers like Deniece Williams say their projects offer millions of dollars worth of upgrades plus large floor plans from an era when developers offered more to stimulate a sluggish market. ‘We were in a weird place,’ said Williams, president of DW Connect Inc. ‘Now as we sell more, we can diversify the buyer base. Investors are the first to test the water, but as you sell more units, you get more end users. That’s really where this project is going. We’re getting more end users who are being priced out of Brickell.’”

The Bend Bulletin in Oregon. “The lure of living in Bend will continue its pull on homebuyers in Oregon and beyond, and the price to buy those homes will continue to climb, just not as fast as it has the past two years, say two homebuilders in Central Oregon. Luke Pickerill, marketing manager at MonteVista Homes. Pickerill tracks the figures associated with sales of homes in Bend in the $200,000-$450,000 price range. ‘Developers are like these wounded animals, and they haven’t had a meal in five years,’ he said. ‘Now there’s this big spread in front of them.’”

“The average price for homes of all sizes and listed for sale in Deschutes County in November 2014 had risen by 12 percent to $467,000 over listed home prices in November 2013, according to data from the Multiple Listing Service available on the Central Oregon Association of Realtors website. Pickerill, talked of rising home values in terms of the price per square foot. On the east side, he said, that number rose $18 per square foot in the past year, from $140 to $158. For an 1,800-square-foot single family home in Bend, that’s a difference of almost $33,000, Pickerill said. ‘Break that down to the lowest common denominator,’ he said. ‘That’s 65 percent of annual income (in Bend) each year. That’s a substantial number.’”

“The median income in Bend in 2013 was a little more than $53,000, according to the U.S. Census Bureau. ‘The challenge is, who’s going to be able to afford a house?’ Pickerill said.”

The Gazette in Colorado. “Single-family homebuilding permits issued by Regional Building - a yardstick to measure the pace of construction - totaled 2,438 last year in El Paso County, a nearly 9 percent drop from 2013, the agency’s report showed. Some homebuilders probably built too many speculative homes - those without committed buyers - in 2013 and pulled back last year, said Todd Anderson, president of Challenger Homes in Colorado Springs. ‘I think we all went into 2014 thinking that it was going to be a 10 percent growth over 2013, and the opposite happened,’ Anderson said.”

The Arizona Republic. “Homebuilders cut their spending on metro Phoenix land during 2014 as new home sales fell. Last year, builders spent $510 million on Valley land, according to Scottsdale-based Land Advisors Organization. That compares with $709 million in 2013 — the most spent on land by home builders in the Phoenix area since the housing boom of 2004-06. Through November, new-home sales in metro Phoenix were down 10 percent from 2013’s pace, according to RL Brown Housing Reports. And housing analysts RL Brown and Greg Burger, publishers of the report, don’t think December new home sales or permits will see a big ‘bounce.’”

“In the spring, the recovery of the Valley’s home-building market appeared to be finally under way. Then new-home construction began slowing again over during the summer. Builders have been offering deals including no payments for a year and discounts of 10 percent to 20 percent on houses already built as they try to sell inventory.”

The Charlotte Observer in North Carolina. “The city of Charlotte’s tentative deal with Bank of America and Wells Fargo to erase $17.6 million in NASCAR Hall of Fame debt has left some homeowners angry after they said they struggled to restructure their loans and fight foreclosure. Jill Fletcher of West Palm Beach, Fla., said she has been trying to keep Bank of America from foreclosing on an investment home she and her husband bought in the Ballantyne area in 2006. She said she would be happy with a deal similar to what was given to the NASCAR Hall of Fame.”

“‘If they would just take off the interest, that would help,’ Fletcher said. ‘They are still trying to foreclose on us, and we are still trying to fight them.’”

The Milwaukee NNS in Wisconsin. “The financial crisis that encircled the globe in 2008 brought devastating levels of home foreclosures to Milwaukee’s central city neighborhoods. The effects are continuing to be felt today as the city and many residents struggle to recover. Before the housing bubble burst the city typically owned fewer than 100 foreclosed residential properties at any given time. Today, the city owns 1,100 foreclosed homes, according to Aaron Szopinski, Milwaukee housing policy director. He estimates that banks own an additional 1,500 foreclosed properties. And there are approximately 2,800 vacant homes throughout the city, many of which could be foreclosed soon if the owners don’t pay their mortgage or taxes.”

“Boarded up and in disrepair, today they consume police and other city services to provide minimal upkeep such as mowing the grass and shoveling the snow. Most are red ink in the city budget since they are no longer on the tax rolls. Washington Park resident Bobby McQuay Jr. said the neighborhood used to have the occasional boarded-up home. But when foreclosures and home demolitions started occurring in previously stable parts of the neighborhood, ‘that’s when you knew something really bad was happening.’”




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Comment by Anonymous
2015-01-08 03:25:11

Checking in from Region IX… ;)

 
Comment by Jingle Male
2015-01-08 04:04:16

“……..when foreclosures and home demolitions started occurring in previously stable parts of the neighborhood, ‘that’s when you knew something really bad was happening.’”

Oops, way to late Szopinski! When people were buying overpriced homes with 100% financing…THAT is when you should have known something bad was happening. That happened a decade earlier in 2004 & 2005.

If you’re going to be a housing policy director, get out in front of the problem. Otherwise you may as well move to Nigeria and become the Economic Minister of Guillotine Rehabilitation!

Comment by Housing Analyst
2015-01-08 05:54:06

People paying massively inflated prices for depreciating houses have been going on non-stop since 2008. You’ve admittedly bought a few of the Jingle_Fraud.

 
Comment by Shillow
2015-01-08 06:10:04

As opposed to people buying overpriced homes with 97% financing like now? Instantly underwater, just like you JFraud.

 
 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2015-01-08 06:00:43

“Mark Dotzour, chief economist and director of research for Texas A&M University’s Real Estate Center, said he expects builders to start construction on between 20,000 and 30,000 homes in 2015.”

Hmm… one has to question the value of ‘research’ funded by NAR.

Houston, TX List Prices Sink 6% As Crude Prices Crater

http://www.zillow.com/bunker-hill-village-tx-77024/home-values/

Comment by oxide
2015-01-08 07:47:22

“sold out crowd”

I hope the food was good.

 
 
Comment by Blue Skye
2015-01-08 06:01:03

“There’s no chance you’re going to see a generalized price decline with houses in Houston even if home sales fall off 50 percent…”

That one is a classic. “Chief economist” doesn’t mean what you’d think it means.

Comment by Ben Jones
2015-01-08 07:39:45

‘A jump in fourth quarter home starts made 2014 the best year for home construction in the Dallas-Fort Worth area since the recession. Builders started 30 percent more houses in the final three months of last year compared with fourth quarter 2013, according to a new report by Residential Strategies Inc.’

For all of 2014, 25,902 homes were started in North Texas. That’s about a 91 percent increase in home construction since 2011.

“On an annual basis the starts were up 24 percent,” said Residential Strategies’ Ted Wilson.’

‘He said most builders aren’t concerned about recent drops in oil prices which have fueled fears of an economic slowdown in Texas. “There is not any near term expectation of any swoon in the business,” Wilsons said. “People in the housing industry are saying they still have all these jobs coming from Toyota and other companies.”

‘Builders are also getting a break in construction. “We have heard some reports that there has been an improvement in the availability of labor,” he said. “The lack of skilled construction workers has acted as a governor to the market for much of the recovery.”

Comment by scdave
2015-01-08 09:23:20

‘He said most builders aren’t concerned about recent drops in oil prices which have fueled fears of an economic slowdown in Texas ??

What BS….Damm right they are concerned….Their decision to pull permits and the commitment of big money was decided 6 months ago way before anyone saw this oil price collapse coming…They pulled permits…Lets see if they follow through with ramping up the actual building…If they come out with 1-zz/2-zz at a time, then you will know they are scared…

Comment by Housing Analyst
2015-01-08 09:54:59

Sale prices resulting in a 300% profit was plenty enough to know there was something wrong. They didn’t need cratering oil prices to tell them that.

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Comment by AmazingRuss
2015-01-08 20:35:37

“We have heard some reports that there has been an improvement in the availability of labor,”

Like when the tide suddenly goes way, way, way out, and there are all these fish just flopping around for the taking…

 
 
Comment by Bluto
2015-01-08 12:15:50

A new David Lereah for Bubble 2.0 and once again a famous quote from Upton Sinclair comes to mind…

“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”

 
 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2015-01-08 06:05:25

‘There is a lot of product coming out at the high end of the market, and buyers in some cases feel it’s in their best interest to wait and see.’”

As in wait and see the housing price correction that was interfered with resume?

Manhattan Sale Prices Plunge 28% YoY As Demand Plummets

http://www.zillow.com/new-york-ny-10019/home-values/

 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2015-01-08 06:09:10

‘After months of rapid growth, Miami-Dade County home sales declined 9.2 percent in November. ‘

Miami Lakes, FL Sale Prices Crater 14% YoY As Housing Demand Nosedives To 20 Year Lows

http://www.zillow.com/miami-lakes-fl/home-values/

 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2015-01-08 06:14:58

“The lure of living in Bend will continue its pull on homebuyers in Oregon and beyond, and the price to buy those homes will continue to climb, just not as fast as it has the past two years, say two homebuilders in Central Oregon.

…. says the guys who stand to profit.

Meanwhile….

Bend, OR Sale Price Gains Evaporate YoY; Plunge 10% QoQ As Housing Correction Resumes

http://www.zillow.com/bend-or-97701/home-values/

Comment by rms
2015-01-08 20:29:35

Bend, OR is a pretty place even though it snows there. It has a real hospital, the schools, shopping, active sports culture and great beer. Jobs with family supporting income are the region’s real problem. The equity locusts ruined it for the locals, IMHO.

Comment by Housing Analyst
2015-01-08 21:00:08

Meth capital of Oregon.

Comment by rms
2015-01-09 07:06:27

“Meth capital of Oregon.”

I thought it was Medford, OR?

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Comment by Blue Skye
2015-01-08 06:16:50

“average price for homes…$467,000 over…The median income in Bend in 2013 was a little more than $53,000, according to the U.S. Census Bureau”

That’s pretty close to 9:1. Everyone wants to live there.

 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2015-01-08 06:25:56

Rocklin, CA Sale Prices Turn Negative YoY As Price Declines Spread Statewide; Plunge 8% QoQ As Housing Demand Craters

http://www.zillow.com/rocklin-ca/home-values/

 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2015-01-08 07:08:07

‘Jill Fletcher of West Palm Beach, Fla., said she has been trying to keep Bank of America from foreclosing on an investment home she and her husband bought in the Ballantyne area in 2006. She said she would be happy with a deal similar to what was given to the NASCAR Hall of Fame.”

“‘If they would just take off the interest, that would help,’ Fletcher said. ‘They are still trying to foreclose on us, and we are still trying to fight them.’”

Where do you start with this dumb free shitter?

Sounds like Jingle_Fraud.

Comment by Shillow
2015-01-08 07:23:40

An investment home? I’m sure the paperwork there is all up to snuff.

 
 
Comment by taxpayers
2015-01-08 07:16:56

OT anyone know of a SEAN se asia bond fund or bond etf?

they keep working whiles other biatchh

Comment by Housing Analyst
2015-01-08 07:21:00

Too early. Call me when their yields approach 25%.

 
 
Comment by rj chicago
2015-01-08 08:58:30

Is this guy for real? Read carefully how deluded and divided this shill is…..

‘There’s no chance you’re going to see a generalized price decline with houses in Houston even if home sales fall off 50 percent,’ he said. ‘There’s a lot of risk, but it’s not the end of the world,’ he said. ‘Try to avoid getting too heavy in debt.’”

Comment by Ben Jones
2015-01-08 09:02:55

‘Even on days when the temperature is above zero, Illinois struggles to keep people here. They’re leaving, in droves, for states with sunnier economic opportunities.’

‘New census data and other figures reveal the cold hard truth: More people are moving away than coming, tipping Illinois last year into the dreadful category of states with declining populations. From July 2013 to July 2014, Illinois shrank by about 10,000 residents in all, joining other states in decline such as West Virginia, Connecticut and Alaska.’

“The faucet is starting to turn up in terms of moving to the Sun Belt,” demographer William Frey tells us. “Obviously states in the Northeast and Midwest, like Illinois, are going to be part of that surge.” But still: “I was quite surprised by the Illinois out-migration and that there is negative growth.”

‘Michael Lucci, director of jobs and growth at the Illinois Policy Institute, told us Illinois is used to seeing 60,000 to 70,000 people a year go elsewhere, costing the state heavily in lost tax revenue.’

‘What really unnerves Lucci is seeing the outbound number shoot past 90,000, thus dragging Illinois into an overall population decline. “We can’t go negative on population and do that two years in a row or we’ll really, really be in trouble,” he said.’

Comment by rj chicago
2015-01-08 09:19:42

Ben:
It is the very Mr. Lucci from IPI (and mind you I think IPI is a great organization - nontaxpayer funded and independent from the State House and Chicago trolls) who has for the last couple of years been sending up flares about this very issue. He will soon post the figures from the two big moving companies (united van lines and the other I can’t recall as I type this) showing I am sure once again net out migration for year 2014.
The idea that he is ’surprised’ by this baffles me as this out migration on net has been going on since around 2000. It ain’t just the weather - there are so many headwinds in this state it will be RI or NJ in a very few short years if not already there. Bond rating agencies continue to downgrade Chicago and ILLANNOY debt every year and there seems no end in sight. Right now heading rapidly toward junk. Politics here are completely one sided and just suck. Favors Dem trolls almost exclusively as the public sector unions in Chicago and in the state control a good chunk of the voting block. Chicago has not had a republican mayor in decades and it shows. At least under daily the public walks were shoveled and salted - with Rahm - not so much.
NOTHING and I mean NOTHING will change as long as Mike Madigan and Cullerton remain in power in the State House. Ya, Rauner won the governorship but like Quinn and others before him - they are just tools in the Mad-Again war chest.
Pensions are completely out of control, property taxes I recall at least second highest in the country (the primary reason my wife and I sold our home a few years back - taxes were - well I can’t use language like that here), businesses are punished by taxes and now otrauma care - the list goes on and on.
Region VIII wonders why it is I want to vacate Region V? You got a few hours and a pot of coffee?
Don’t move here you won’t like it.

Comment by rj chicago
2015-01-08 09:22:18

Sorry -
daily = Daley

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Comment by scdave
2015-01-08 09:27:48

Appreciate you keeping us updated on this rj….Appears that its going to make the underfunded pension problem even worse…

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Comment by rj chicago
2015-01-08 09:53:27

You are welcome -
I will continue to look for stats - but have to get back to work to continue to participate in the matrix.

 
 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2015-01-08 09:33:41

Let them implode.

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Comment by oxide
2015-01-08 10:04:39

He will soon post the figures from the two big moving companies showing I am sure once again net out migration for year 2014.

Whle we’re waiting for that data, we at HBB have the quick-and-dirty U-Haul index. $$ for a one-way 20 foot truck.

Warrenville, IL to Charlotte, NC: $1725
Charlotte, NC to Warrenville, IL: $755

:grin:

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Comment by AmazingRuss
2015-01-08 20:37:32

Illinois is by far the most horrible state I’ve ever been in. Rotting houses and corn. Bleh.

 
 
 
Comment by rj chicago
2015-01-08 09:03:47

And the low info crowd wonders why Obamao is heading to PHX!!?

The Arizona Republic. “Homebuilders cut their spending on metro Phoenix land during 2014 as new home sales fell. Last year, builders spent $510 million on Valley land, according to Scottsdale-based Land Advisors Organization. That compares with $709 million in 2013 — the most spent on land by home builders in the Phoenix area since the housing boom of 2004-06. Through November, new-home sales in metro Phoenix were down 10 percent from 2013’s pace, according to RL Brown Housing Reports. And housing analysts RL Brown and Greg Burger, publishers of the report, don’t think December new home sales or permits will see a big ‘bounce.’”

“In the spring, the recovery of the Valley’s home-building market appeared to be finally under way. Then new-home construction began slowing again over during the summer. Builders have been offering deals including no payments for a year and discounts of 10 percent to 20 percent on houses already built as they try to sell inventory.”

Comment by Ben Jones
2015-01-08 09:11:36

Get under that bus! Obama is going to own this debacle.

Comment by rj chicago
2015-01-08 09:20:48

I ain’t gettin under any bus Ben…..
I am just gettin outta the way!!!

 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2015-01-08 09:27:27

Nah…in the coming decades, Democrats will never accept blame, just as they won’t accept blame today for the Clinton Housing Bubble, which was fueled in large part by weakened lending standards at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac plus a $500K capital gains exclusion for sale of a primary residence.

 
 
 
Comment by rj chicago
2015-01-08 10:15:31

Can’t help it - This from the economist recently on ILLANNOY pension issues - 111 bil in unfunded liability and counting.

http://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21636786-illinois-risks-default-if-it-fails-tackle-its-public-pension-crisis-americas-greece

and this…..

http://www.civicfed.org

Comment by taxpayers
2015-01-08 12:00:59

only gov workers will retire
age 55 w 75% pay in my county

 
 
Comment by rj chicago
2015-01-08 12:42:56
 
Comment by rj chicago
2015-01-08 13:23:33

Chicago one of worst in nation for jobs….
“Don’t move here - you won’t like it.”

http://chicago.suntimes.com/chicago-politics/7/71/265704/data-chicago-one-worst-cities-nation-find-job

 
Comment by taxpayers
2015-01-08 13:33:59

how will flip this house,selling ny, selling la keep going
what’s Josh to do?

Comment by oxide
2015-01-08 15:24:41

The 1% aren’t hurting too badly, so Selling LA and Selling NY will keep going.

But it was pretty funny to see one episode of Selling LA where the realtor Kellen(?) has to convince a very glum seller to “give away” his 5 M house for 3.2M. The realtor was right… he showed the seller some comps which were much nicer, and cheaper.

 
 
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Comment by Tarara Boomdea
2015-01-08 16:19:44

I live fairly close to there. The place doesn’t look like anything from the outside and the houses around it are much smaller and run down. They closed the nearby Liberace Museum in 2010 - lack of interest. I visited right before it closed and won a raffle - a basket of Liberace logoed stuff. I should find it and put in on eBay.

 
 
Comment by phony scandals
2015-01-13 09:25:42

phony scandals

 
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