March 23, 2015

A Lull Before The Storm

A report from the New York Times. “In New York, teens and preteens are becoming savvy connoisseurs of real estate. Perhaps it’s because they’re so utterly at home on the Internet. Perhaps it’s because they’re lured by online images of condo amenities like an indoor pool or a children’s playroom or because they’re fans of ‘Million Dollar Listing New York’ on Bravo. Or maybe it’s because it’s become business as usual for children in certain precincts of Manhattan to participate in family decisions. ‘They choose where they and their parents are going to have dinner or where they’re going to go on vacation,’ said Stuart Moss, an associate broker at Corcoran. ‘So why shouldn’t it extend to where they’re going to spend several million dollars for a residence?’”

“A year and a half ago, Skye van Merkensteijn was shooting hoops with a friend who lives at a condominium-rental hybrid on Riverside Boulevard with its own indoor basketball court, climbing wall and bowling alley. Thirteen-year-old Skye was impressed — and envious. Well, his worldly pal told him, he just happened to know of an apartment for sale on the 21st floor. ‘When my husband came home’, Skye announced: ‘We’re moving and this is the place we’re moving to,’ said Skye’s mother, Elizabeth van Merkensteijn, ‘They hear the numbers. We talk about everything in front of everyone. I get it that the air is thin and that it’s rarefied. But it’s the reality of New York City.’”

The Marin Independent Journal in California. “Marin home prices dropped just a tad in February, the first decline in two and a half years, though experts shrugged off the reported 1 percent decrease as an anomaly. ‘Sales are basically flat? I’m surprised to hear it,’ said Bernard Link, an agent with Alain Pinel in Mill Valley, of the CoreLogic report. ‘It seems like multiple offers for any desirable property are the norm now.’ In February, Link said, the average price in southern and central Marin was 102 percent of asking, while in northern Marin, it was 98 percent of asking.”

The Sun Sentinel in Florida. “After two years of wading through picked-over listings, South Florida buyers are celebrating a new batch of well-maintained homes for sale. Palm Beach County had 27,714 new listings last year, up 16 percent from 2013, according to the Realtors Association of the Palm Beaches. Broward County had 27,940 new listings, up 14 percent from 2013, the Greater Fort Lauderdale Realtors said. Listings also were up in both counties during January.”

“‘Every time we turn around, we’re getting inundated with new listings,’ said Jason Tornatore, who recently signed a contract on a Fort Lauderdale house. ‘Just within the last two weeks, stuff is flying onto the market. Getting what you want is a lot easier these days.’”

“But with listings on the rise, so too is sellers’ optimism. Sellers always tend to think their homes are more valuable than they really are, and that’s especially true now in a recovering market, said Cathy Prenner, a South Florida agent for Campbell & Rosemurgy. In some cases, the higher prices are turning off buyers, who don’t feel the need to rush into deals as they did in the past. ‘It’s definitely a challenge to get sellers to realize what the real, winning price is,’ Prenner said. ‘Some of these homes aren’t really priced where the market is. They’re priced where the seller wants it to be.’”

The Arizona Republic. “Metro Phoenix’s housing market didn’t start the year with a bang. January was a slow or even dismal month for home sales and prices. The Valley’s median home sales price fell to $208,000 in January from $215,000 in December, according to a report from the W. P. Carey School of Business at Arizona State University. Home sales dropped 26 percent. ‘January is always a quiet month, but we believe this was a lull before the storm,’ said Mike Orr, director of the Center for Real Estate Theory and Practice at W. P. Carey.”

“Home sales fell in January despite the many visitors to the Valley for everything from the Waste Management Phoenix Open golf tournament to the Super Bowl. In January, 4,965 Valley houses changed hand, compared with 6,764 in December.”

The Washington Post. “Despite an overall housing recovery, it’s suddenly becoming more common in several of the nation’s largest cities for homeowners to owe more on their home than it’s worth. The national negative equity rate, which had declined for 2 1/2 years, stalled in the fourth quarter of 2014 at 16.9 percent, according to Zillow. In the fourth quarter, the rate worsened in 21 of the nation’s top 50 housing markets, including Philadelphia, Boston and Houston.”

“Zillow estimated that more than a quarter of homeowners are underwater in the metropolitan areas of Virginia Beach, Jacksonville, Las Vegas, Atlanta, Chicago and Memphis. Many lower-value homes are losing value again, Zillow reported, and that’s what’s behind the rising rates of negative equity. Zillow reported that the underwater rate for top value homes was only about 9 percent, compared to almost 16 percent for middle value homes, and for the bottom tier of home values more than 27 percent.”

“In places like Kansas City, Cleveland, Atlanta and Chicago, more than 40 percent of bottom tier homeowners were underwater, but 10 percent or less for the top.”

Fox 5 Vegas in Nevada. “According to RealtyTrac, foreclosures in our state are again on the rise. While experts say Nevada is better off than it was three or four years ago, there are still a lot of people living in homes they have been making payments on for months, even years. According to FOX5 legal analyst Bob Massi, the clock is ticking on people who haven’t been making mortgage payments.”

“‘If they’re getting these default notices they better understand that probably, usually it’s 120 days before a foreclosure takes place from when you get the actual notice of default. They better start making plans to move,’ Massi said. Massi said he believes banks have been manipulating the market, waiting for property values to rise before proceeding with foreclosures. They’re now making their move. ‘Now, with the foreclosures and the defaults being filed, they’ll probably get a better bid on their foreclosure sales,’ Massi said.”

“Scott Beaudry, president-elect of the Greater Las Vegas Association of Realtors, agrees with Massi. He said there is a backlog of foreclosures that banks need to process. Still, he said, the situation is not dire, like it was just a few years ago. ‘It’s a great opportunity to purchase a home right now. There is great inventory and great properties to choose from,’ he said.”




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Comment by Mr. Banker
2015-03-23 05:48:17

“In places like Kansas City, Cleveland, Atlanta and Chicago, more than 40 percent of bottom tier homeowners were underwater, but 10 percent or less for the top.”

That means that 60 percent of bottom tier homeowners are not underwater, and if you are one of these homeowners then you are an idiot if you do not rush to your local bank branch and cash out any remaining equity you may have before it slips away and will probably be gone for … for FOREVER!

Comment by Richard Warm Onger
2015-03-23 06:23:17

A lot of people took equity out in the last 12 months. Shocking that it is happening and being allowed again.

Comment by Mr. Banker
2015-03-23 06:39:55

“Shocking that it is happening and being allowed again.”

God’s plan. Unleash whatever home equity you have and put the freed-up money into the economy by spending it and at the same time you will save the children.

Comment by Professor Bear
2015-03-23 08:25:54

Do this with the understanding that the next time the economy turns down, bailout measures will be passed to make you whole on your vanished equity.

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Comment by In Colorado
2015-03-23 08:10:54

A lot of people took equity out in the last 12 months.

That explains the bump in car sales.

Also, in my little burg, which has no quality employers anymore (since HP left town) SFH construction has increased dramatically in the past few months. I don’t know who is supposed to buy those houses, which are priced around 300K on average, but that doesn’t seem to deter the builders. One theory I’m hearing is that its people who work in Fort Collins and Longmont, where houses cost even more … but I’m not buying that. There aren’t that many good jobs in either of those places.

Comment by Housing Analyst
2015-03-23 08:36:33

“That explains the bump in car sales.”

Not really. Record sales are directly a result of subprime auto financing.

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Comment by In Colorado
2015-03-23 12:09:28

30-something Millenials couples, each with a $50K job

Those are in short supply in my little burg.

 
 
Comment by oxide
2015-03-23 10:59:44

30-something Millenials couples, each with a $50K job and a down payment from Mom, can probably swing it. Especially if they freeze their eggs and went to state school.

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Comment by Housing Analyst
2015-03-23 11:22:10

Not really and we’re seeing that in record low sales. Afterall, why would they when they can rent for far less and maintain a comfortable lifestyle?

 
 
Comment by redmondjp
2015-03-23 19:55:20

In my area I am now hearing multiple radio ads that you can take out a reverse mortage AND BUY A NEW HOUSE with it! Oh, the financing magic they are working these days . . .

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Comment by BKLawyer
2015-03-24 00:45:09

There’s a great employer out there. Halliburton for the oil fields!!!!

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Comment by Mr. Banker
2015-03-23 05:55:43

“Massi said he believes banks have been manipulating the market, waiting for property values to rise before proceeding with foreclosures.”

(chuckle)

Comment by Mr. Banker
2015-03-23 06:03:00

“Scott Beaudry, president-elect of the Greater Las Vegas Association of Realtors, agrees with Massi. He said there is a backlog of foreclosures that banks need to process. Still, he said, the situation is not dire, like it was just a few years ago. ‘It’s a great opportunity to purchase a home right now. There is great inventory and great properties to choose from,’ he said.”

What’ really great about guys like this Scott Beaudry guy is banks don’t have to spend any money hiring him to push properties off of the bank’s balance sheetsa because idiots such as this Scott guy will do all the necessary hustling on his own and any successes he may enjoy are shared with the banker as soon as the mark signs the bottom line.

The mark works, the RE hustler works, and the banker … the banker reaps.

 
 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2015-03-23 07:23:44

Kirkland, WA List Prices Tailspin; Plunge 18% As Inventory Explodes 106%

http://www.movoto.com/kirkland-wa/market-trends/

 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2015-03-23 07:25:00

“He said there is a backlog of foreclosures that banks need to process.”

How do you hide 25 million excess, empty and defaulted houses?

Comment by BKLawyer
2015-03-24 00:49:05

You missed 10 years ago when Congress exempted the banks from having to “Mark to Market” the value of the REO assets.m so they “own” them based on debt, not actual value.

Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2015-03-24 03:23:19

It wasn’t Congress that was responsible for that travesty—blame the FASB!

 
 
 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2015-03-23 07:26:53

“Many lower-value homes are losing value again”

The implication is anything less than the massively inflated price of $500k is falling.

Guess again. They’re all falling.

 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2015-03-23 07:33:50

Monterey County, CA List Prices Dive 15% As Housing Correction Resumes

http://www.zillow.com/monterey-county-ca/home-values/

Comment by EricP
2015-03-24 11:54:44

I know some friends in Salinas… The 350K and up for a 3b 2b home in Salinas is obscene and silly.

some people immediately convert the garage to a studio for their kid to live there with the family. (kid+girlfriend + 2 kiddos)

It’s a joke…

3 families to 1 home in most cases. I have personally verified this madness. 1 family per room ( a lot of air mattresses in the living room)

Comment by Housing Analyst
2015-03-24 12:30:37

Falling housing prices.

 
 
 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2015-03-23 08:03:20

Upper East Side Manhattan Sale Prices Crater 16%

http://www.zillow.com/new-york-ny-10028/home-values/

 
Comment by snake charmer
2015-03-23 08:09:21

Or maybe it’s because it’s become business as usual for children in certain precincts of Manhattan to participate in family decisions. ‘They choose where they and their parents are going to have dinner or where they’re going to go on vacation,’ said Stuart Moss, an associate broker at Corcoran. ‘So why shouldn’t it extend to where they’re going to spend several million dollars for a residence?’”
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Good God. We’ve managed to create the fictitious spoiled children from Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. “Daddy, I want a golden goose!!!” And a multimillion dollar apartment in a building with a climbing wall and bowling alley! Here you go, Veruca Salt:

http://tinyurl.com/b7nv6u7

These boys and girls are the future investment bankers of America, which is to say, our future entitled class.

Comment by Ben Jones
2015-03-23 08:19:39

‘Has the Greenwich Village townhouse market topped out? It has, at least, for Sarah Jessica Parker; DNAInfo reports that the Sex and the City star’s townhouse sale closed at $20 million, just a million more than she bought it for and zero profit after her extensive renovations and the broker’s fee.’

‘Maybe she should have enlisted a rich teenager to help her sell the place? The New York Times writes about the involvement of ultra-wealthy New York kids in their parents’ real estate hunts, including one who pressed his parents to splurge on a $14 million condo at the Aldyn after visiting a friend there. I mean, an eight-room apartment in the Beresford is nice and all, but when one’s friends are all living in new construction penthouses, you really have to get your parents to step up. Another boy convinced his parents to buy a condo in a building’s C line because it would be best for his baby grand.’

‘SL Green and JP Morgan Chase are in talks with HFZ Capital Group to finance a residential development on a West Chelsea site that is one of the most expensive lots ever purchased in the city, Crain’s reports. The lot sold last year to HFZ for $870 million, but HFZ has struggled to close the acquisition and move forward with its plans to build a pair of 400-foot-tall condo towers over fears that the market might be tapped out for super-luxury developments.’

Comment by Ben Jones
2015-03-23 08:24:32

‘Meet Skye van Merkensteijn, 13 years old, and the kind of pint-sized powerbroker that can force his parents into buying a $14M apartment in the Aldyn that they claim they can’t even afford. Teens and even preteens, the Times reports, are becoming “savvy connoisseurs of real estate.”

Comment by Dudgeon Bludgeon
2015-03-23 18:05:31

How do these reporters even know about these kids? Who’s offering up the info that their kid is influencing their property decisions? ” Oy! My kid won’t shut up about the foyer! If it’s not the corbels, he’s unhappy with the sconces!”
Invented news. News as Art? Infotainment. Why even read it?

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Comment by Ben Jones
2015-03-23 19:36:50

Social mood is important to manias.

“Patty,” Mrs. Haggerty said, “feels this is the time to buy.”

That’s more than a shoe-shine boy moment.

 
 
 
 
Comment by snake charmer
2015-03-23 08:58:59

More from the NYT:

All this speaks to the evolving parent-child dynamic, according to Dr. Gail Saltz, a psychiatrist. “I think particularly in affluent areas, there’s now less of a separation in terms of what children are privy to and what privileges they get to have,” she said. “These parents aren’t saying: ‘We need to move and it’s your responsibility to find us a place.’ This is about children being helpful in ways that are fun for them.”

“Would it be more helpful for them to take out the garbage?” Dr. Saltz asked. “Maybe, but it’s not as much fun.”

Meanwhile, thanks to her mother and father, Patty Haggerty now knows the difference between a co-op and a condo, and is learning about the advantages of buying versus renting, and vice versa. “Patty,” Mrs. Haggerty said, “feels this is the time to buy.”

Comment by Ben Jones
2015-03-23 09:02:43

“Patty,” Mrs. Haggerty said, “feels this is the time to buy.”

Dang, I missed that one. What a bubble indicator!

Comment by AmazingRuss
2015-03-23 20:24:54

Miraculous words for the miraculous age we live in.

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Comment by Larry Littlefield
2015-03-23 12:31:05

The NY Times piece provoked a wave of nausea among ordinary people in NYC. Most found it ridiculous. It shows how desperate the Times is to sell ads for…anything.

Comment by snake charmer
2015-03-23 12:58:01

One of the comments suggested that, in bygone times, extremely wealthy people in New York City would have declined to be interviewed or photographed for the article — in other words, that the super-rich had self-awareness and a capability for shame, characteristics now conspicuous by their absence.

 
 
 
Comment by Ben Jones
2015-03-23 08:31:07

‘Condos are a hot property these days, and Jermaine Williams of Century 21 Leading Edge Realty in Toronto, Ontario can help you acquire one before it’s even built!’

‘Don’t be too nervous, however – there are safety guards built in for new condo buyers, namely the10-day “cooling off” period during which you can change your mind about the purchase. This helps the buyer if the original features outlined by the builder aren’t fulfilled, or you find you’re in over your head financially.’

‘With the help of Jermaine, you can find a top-quality new condo from a reputed builder that you will be proud to own. While buyers are required to put more money down on a new condo than on a new detached home, condos are currently a potent moneymaker so you can gain your deposit back relatively quickly. For example, if you buy a new condo in the right location at $300,000, it could be worth around $350,000 by the third year with the current market conditions!’

Does anyone here know if this 10 day thing is started when the condo is delivered?

Comment by Ben Jones
2015-03-23 08:33:16

Never mind:

‘I’m looking to purchase my first home. Will the 10-day cooling off period apply if I change my mind about buying a place?’

‘The “cooling off” period will apply only if you buy a new condo directly from a builder or developer. If you end up going that route, you’ll have a 10-day window after you sign the purchase agreement to change your mind for any reason and get out of the contract.’

‘There is no equivalent grace period when it comes to re-sale transactions. In fact, most offers will likely include an “irrevocable period” during which the offer cannot be withdrawn.’

Comment by Housing Analyst
2015-03-23 08:56:20

Answer: You’re screwed.

 
 
 
Comment by doom
2015-03-23 10:54:51

Spring forward all is going well (not), looks like the only thing going forward this Spring was setting your clock a hour ahead?

Comment by Housing Analyst
2015-03-23 11:23:45

Falling prices is positive. Where is your optimism?

 
 
Comment by rj chicago
2015-03-23 12:03:10

Region V weather report -
We have 5 inches of global warming on the ground as I write this with an over night low of low 20’s - then back to the 60’s later in the week.
This totally sucks this global warming!!

Comment by Puggs
2015-03-23 13:46:57

It majorly sucks out west. The ground has dropped by a foot and this summer is going to make last summer look like a crisp fall morning. HOT, HOT and even HOTTER. Y’all just best pack up and move back east.

Comment by AmazingRuss
2015-03-23 21:14:07

Socal is absolutely frying. Gonna be in the 90s all week, heralding water shortages and a bumper fire season. The rattlesnakes are even out early, and feeling frisky if you go by the number of people getting bit.

Comment by Professor Bear
2015-03-23 23:30:43

Scary. I took a hike today near work and had to wonder about the occupants of the 3″ diameter holes I noticed along the trail.

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Comment by Housing Analyst
2015-03-23 12:19:19

Paso Robles, CA Sale Prices Crater 8% YoY; Sellers Slash To Get Ahead Of Crash

http://www.zillow.com/paso-robles-ca/home-values/

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2015-03-23 23:34:44

ft dot com
March 22, 2015 3:53 pm
Global fund managers warn of a bond bubble
David Oakley
A broker works in a trading room of a Portuguese bank in Lisbon, Tuesday, May 7, 2013. Portugal held a sale of its 10-year bonds on Tuesday for the first time since it needed a bailout in 2011, representing a milestone in its efforts to regain investor confidence and prove its contested austerity policies are paying off.
(AP Photo/Francisco Seco)©AP

A growing number of professional investors are warning that bonds are overvalued as fears grow that a fixed income bubble will collapse in a disorderly sell-off.

Four out of five fund managers said bonds were overvalued in a survey of 300 global managers by CFA UK. Corporate bonds are more overvalued than ever before, while government bonds are the most overvalued asset class, the group said.

The group, which represents 11,000 investment professionals, says their valuations index, which has been running for three years, is in effect flashing red over the high valuations of bonds.

Brad Crombie, head of fixed income at Aberdeen Asset Management, said: “You only know you’re in a bubble when it pops. But this market could pop. There is more tension and anxiety over valuations than for a long while.”

John Stopford, head of multi-assets at Investec, said: “There could be a bubble as investors have loaded up on high yield and corporate bonds. If we do see a reverse in the market, there could be price dislocation and a messy unwind.”

 
Comment by David
2015-03-26 08:37:11

I started reading this blog back in 2006 right before the real estate collapse. Is it a coincidence I ended up back here again in 2015. I don’t think so. I think we are in another bubble. I’m having deja vu.

 
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