Sellers Are Waking Up
A report from Bloomberg. “Gold’s traditional role as a store of wealth has been usurped by contemporary art and apartments in cities such as New York and London, according to Laurence D. Fink, head of the world’s biggest asset manager. ‘The two greatest stores of wealth internationally today is contemporary art….. and I don’t mean that as a joke, I mean that as a serious asset class,’ said Laurence D. Fink, chairman of BlackRock Inc. ‘And two, the other store of wealth today is apartments in Manhattan, apartments in Vancouver, in London.’”
Crain’s New York Business. “A new sales team and an interior redesign is all that Naftali Group’s new Upper West Side condo development needed to jump-start sales. The developer first launched the 25-unit building in September. But after nearly four months without a single sale, Naftali pulled the apartments off the market and shut down the project’s website. The lack of interest was partially due to the slowdown in the luxury condo market, resulting from a glut of pricey apartments that gave buyers more options.”
“Rather than cut prices, Naftali decided to redesign the apartments with higher quality interiors and upgrade the amenities of the 18-story building, essentially increasing what potential buyers would get for the same prices, which start at about $4.7 million depending on the size of the unit. ‘We took the time to listen to the marketplace and respond to the feedback we received from our target audience,’ Miki Naftali, chief executive of the Naftali Group, said in a statement. ‘We are confident that buyers will love the changes we’ve incorporated.’”
From MarketWatch. “Lame income growth and weak demand from first-time buyers are big reasons why home sales aren’t stronger, economists said Tuesday. ‘It’s strictly a matter of low demand,” said David Crowe, chief economist of the National Association of Home Builders. ‘There’s a significant lack of first-time home buyers.’”
“David Blitzer, index committee chairman at S&P Dow Jones Indices, chimed in that a lackluster labor market is holding back home sales. ‘If wages were growing faster, you’d have…more people buying houses,’ he said. Weak home sales are ‘much more of an income problem than a credit problem.’”
“But the U.S. economy is growing too slowly to help out housing much, Blitzer added. ‘Housing, unfortunately, is one of the sectors that shows this slowness and this weakness and this lack of recovery,’ he said. ‘If a lot more people wanted to buy houses, someone would figure out a way to build them.’”
The Sun Sentinel in Florida. “More than half of all home and condominium sales last year in Palm Beach and Broward counties were all-cash deals, according to data from local Realtor boards. That suggests the region’s housing market remains firmly in the grasp of investors and affluent buyers, but cash sales as a percentage of total sales are slowly declining. Investors are pulling back on purchases as prices rise and their potential profits shrink — just as home financing becomes easier to obtain.”
“The strong appreciation of the dollar against other currencies is making foreigners — another big group of cash buyers — reconsider their plans, according to Frank Nothaft, chief economist for CoreLogic. ‘They’re probably taking pause and backing off buying at the same pace they used to,’ Nothaft said. ‘If Canadians … are looking to buy in Fort Lauderdale and West Palm Beach, things have suddenly gotten 20 percent more expensive.’”
The Press Enterprise in California. “Low inventory has also been at the heart of an existing-home sales market that Mark Fleming, a former CoreLogic chief economist, believes is underperforming at a time of historically low interest rates and housing affordability. Fleming said the market will continue to underperform until equity builds for existing homeowners. ‘They can’t be homebuyers if they don’t have sufficient equity to be home sellers,’ he said.”
“Beacon Economics founder and chief economist Christopher Thornberg pushed back. ‘People are buying and selling; it’s just there are a lot of buyers relative to sellers,’ he said. ‘The idea that tight inventory is a reflection of a weak real estate market sounds weird.’”
“He offered this view: ‘People who were deeply underwater, for the most part, were foreclosed on. Since many of those foreclosed homes were bought by investors or people coming back into the market on the cheap, more than a year’s worth of price gains have added a lot of equity to the market.’ For the rest of 2015, Thornberg is watching for home sales to continue to rise, inventory to loosen up and new home sales to start to show gains. ‘In a very real sense, there is still lots of headroom on (home) price,’ he said.”
The Los Altos Town Crier in California. “California’s housing market continued to pick up steam as existing home sales and prices rose in March, with both posting back-to-back increases, according to the California Association of Realtors’ monthly data report. In Silicon Valley, March housing-market numbers showed a substantial rise in inventory. MLSListings Inc. indicates that inventory of single-family homes increased substantially in March in Santa Clara and San Mateo counties, rising 54 percent and 45 percent, respectively, when compared year-over-year. Month-over-month inventory for both counties also rose – 18 percent in Santa Clara County and 52 percent in San Mateo County. New listings for both Santa Clara and San Mateo counties increased 45 percent from their February numbers.”
“‘The March data is a strong indicator that we are bound to have a busy spring and summer, with strong competition for homes from buyers wanting to live here,’ said Chris Isaacson, president of the Silicon Valley Association of Realtors. ‘Sellers are waking up to the fact that if they want to sell their home, now is the time to do so.’”
The Wichita Eagle in Kansas. “The small town of Bentley hopes that it has finally found the cure for its painful housing bubble hangover. Mayor Rex Satterthwaite said that in 2014, a third of the city’s $250,000 general fund budget went to loan payments for the streets and utilities that were extended to the Castle Estates subdivision. That annual debt bill is scheduled to rise to more than half the city’s general fund by 2017 unless some of the lots can be sold.”
“‘If these lots were filled, I guarantee you these roads would be in a lot better shape,’ he said. ‘And that’s key to making the town the kind of place you want to move to. You have to have money to make money.’”
“When many developers stopped selling lots and builders stopped building homes in 2008 and 2009, many stopped paying their taxes and specials on the lots. But when developers stop paying those taxes, other taxpayers in the community must shoulder the costs. And as many communities found out during the most recent housing bust, even when the homes and lots were foreclosed upon and resold at a tax sale, there wasn’t always a happy result. Many times the lots were sold to flippers who sat on them – without paying the specials or taxes – in hopes of a quick payday. Many lots went through tax foreclosure a second time.”
“The dramatic expansion promised by the subdivision followed by the unanticipated financial burden created by the housing crisis has caused some hard feelings in the town over the past decade, Satterthwaite said, but that appears to be finally healing. ‘This town is ready to move forward,’ Satterthwaite said.”
‘The idea that tight inventory is a reflection of a weak real estate market sounds weird.’”
Tall tales usually do sound weird. The truth? Mortgage applications collapsing to 20 year lows is the truthful record.
It’s interesting that the media doesn’t ask, how can there be a shortage of houses in every little Podunk town from east to west, when there was a ‘glut’ of houses just a few years ago?
Why is housing inventory so low?
‘Additionally, there is the current mentality among some homeowners that home values will continue to rise. Very similar to the mindset of people holding on to a stock because they expect it to rise, people believe their properties will increase over time. Right or wrong, this mindset has become another factor in the tightening of inventory. What typically happens is that once homeowners realize the up cycle has turned, they electively decide or are forced to sell due to job loss or other negative economic pressures. This would result in a significant inventory increase.’
Also, when I see articles saying ‘Boomerang buyers! Foreclosure victims can now buy a house’ (on credit), just what is the net effect? Are they living in a van down by the river and now will take over a housing unit?
“people believe their properties will increase over time.”
Considering houses are depreciating assets no different than autos, it’s a strange notion indeed.
Considering houses are depreciating assets no different than autos, it’s a strange notion indeed.
Yes, they are both depreciating assets. And they both cost significant money to maintain in a servicable condition. But there is one difference: their service lifetime is different.
Who here has a daily-driver car that is 50 or more years old? Ok, now who here lives in a house that is 50 or more years old?
The longer effective service lifetime makes the effects of central back dollar-devaluation far more visible in the price of houses than in the price of cars over their lifetime.
From a recent post:
‘In fact, about the best one can expect in home appreciation over the long term is to match inflation. That’s what a study of U.S. home prices from 1890 to 1990 showed. Actually, Shiller found that prices outpaced inflation by a trivial 10 basis points (a tenth of a percentage point) annually.’
When I was studying real estate in college, the dean showed us a chart of Amsterdam house prices that showed the same thing going back 400 years. It’s important to realize what we are experiencing is a once in several lifetimes event.
‘The two greatest stores of wealth internationally today is contemporary art….. and I don’t mean that as a joke, I mean that as a serious asset class,’ said Laurence D. Fink, chairman of BlackRock Inc. ‘And two, the other store of wealth today is apartments in Manhattan, apartments in Vancouver, in London.’
Now that’s a strange twist on the shoeshine boy moment! And then:
‘after nearly four months without a single sale, Naftali pulled the apartments off the market and shut down the project’s website. The lack of interest was partially due to the slowdown in the luxury condo market, resulting from a glut of pricey apartments that gave buyers more options.’
The difference between then and now is these central bankers’ games. I’ve pretty much realized I have no idea how/if this all ends. They seem to be able to prop up a dead model indefinitely. I mean, if all this debt is such a problem, how is it being serviced?
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Unfortunately it does not have a good ending.
Just think, the government is still deficit financing. How? Not with QE anymore.
Now they increase interest rates, shock the stock market, and restyle housing prices to raise money to finance the deficit.
Also, before Greece couldn’t have shattered the global banking system. Now if they pull the plug Europe is toasted, and we get baked.
Until the authorities realize there cannot be a free lunch, and drive the economy properly -
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. home resales surged to their highest level in 18 months in March as more homes came on the market, a sign of strength in housing ahead of the spring selling season.”
I am seeing allot of this. I don’t know how true it is ?
Easy answer….
“The National Association of Realtors said”…..
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/04/22/us-usa-economy-housing-idUSKBN0ND1NP20150422
“…there is the current mentality among some homeowners that home values will continue to rise. Very similar to the mindset of people holding on to a stock because they expect it to rise, people believe their properties will increase over time.”
The psychological aspect of these bubbles, and how it feeds them, should never be underestimated. I’ve learned to pretty much keep my mouth shut in public rather than sharing my opinions on real estate, but I am honestly shocked at what I am hearing these days. It’s like 2005 all over again. Just yesterday, my neighbor was spouting off about what a great investment real estate is. He owns two properties (one which is in a million dollar+ neighborhood in Seattle) and has a lot of skin in the game. The expectations these people have of further appreciation are almost unbelievable.
Just be thankful you’re not one of the suckers.
So far, the skeptics _have_ been the suckers—suckers for the Federal Reserve—including me. Time will tell who the suckers are in the end, though!
Not really. Not at all.
Stick with ever increasingly valuable cash instead rapidly depreciating assets like houses.
Seattle, WA Sale Prices Crater 10% YoY
http://www.zillow.com/seattle-wa-98119/home-values/
Please stop using Zillow as your data source. Check out seattlebubble.com for actual, accurate Seattle-area RE data.
No. We’ll continue to use MRIS and realtor data. Besides, that website is untrustworthy.
Ha ha ha! You are hilarious if you trust anything from a realtor.
An engineer runs that site and he has no vested interest in cooking the books, so to speak. Plus, unlike you, he actually lives in the area as well.
Transaction prices my friend. Transaction prices.
Kirkland, WA List Prices Plummet 12% YoY; Inventory Balloons 94%
http://www.movoto.com/kirkland-wa/market-trends/
‘The city of Santa Clarita has burgeoned to become the third-largest in Los Angeles County with more than 209,000 residents. Unincorporated communities like Castaic, Stevenson Ranch, Westridge and Val Verde are home to tens of thousands more.’
‘But estimates in the “One Valley, One Vision” joint planning document crafted by Santa Clarita and Los Angeles County call for the valley to become home to between 460,000 and 485,000 residents — about double the current population.’
‘Many local development projects were green-lighted years ago but were stymied by the recession.’
‘As to why the collective eye of the building industry seems trained on the east side of the valley, the answer, it seems, is fairly simple. There’s still a good deal of available, vacant land over on the other side of town.’
‘Amid the sobering drought conditions, the sight of new homes going up next door to them, adding new households’ demands on water supplies, is not sitting well with many local residents.’
“You need water for these houses, and as you well know we’re running out,” wrote reader Ron Brown in response to a Signal Facebook survey. “Time to stop building all of these homes out here. Take a break, people.”
“All of these houses need water, which we don’t have,” agreed reader Matt Ake. “They ask us to rip out our lawns and time our showers, but then they go and add all of those showers/toilets/lawns/swimming pools. It sends a very mixed message.”
‘Not everyone was opposed to new construction, however. “I’d rather have pretty homes than empty space,” wrote reader Erika Rodriguez.’
‘Regardless of public sentiment, construction on some east side projects has already begun in earnest, with more to come.’
Santa Clarita is right next to a couple big water reservoirs they can easily see how low the water is .
Housing Demand Plummets To 1996 Levels
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-KnsDapRew10/VMgUEsHABHI/AAAAAAAAiGQ/s7pFbu2iofw/s1600/MBAJan282015.PNG
‘Only in San Francisco does the discovery of a mummified corpse in a trash-filled house quickly become a story of real estate intrigue and speculation.’
‘Last weekend, firefighters wearing oxygen masks carried a gurney bag from a home on Fourth Avenue in the Inner Richmond, removing the decomposed body of a woman that authorities speculate had died several years ago. By the time the woman’s body was found, a professional debris removal team had spent three days cleaning out the rat- and spider-infested home. A woman who had been living in the house was taken to a hospital for evaluation.’
‘Once renovated, it “is a $2.5 million house all day long,” Birmingham said. “The people looking at hoarder houses are developers or investors, so the fact that someone passed away — whether mummified or not — it doesn’t bother them a bit.”
“The people looking at hoarder houses are developers or investors, so the fact that someone passed away — whether mummified or not — it doesn’t bother them a bit.”
Why not, given it’s a Zombie Nation the story would probably add to the price!!
“When many developers stopped selling lots and builders stopped building homes in 2008 and 2009, many stopped paying their taxes and specials on the lots. But when developers stop paying those taxes, other taxpayers in the community must shoulder the costs.”
And there you have the story of America - socialize the losses via corrupt and utterly thieving private developers who lost out on a bet. That is the story of America today.
I suspect that no matter where the commentary comes in to this blog -there are folks here who can point out this phenom in burgs big and small.
For me - witness Chicago - this place is in the midst of property tax notice season and you can count on more folks moving out as their bills continue to escalate to fund Mayor Rummy’s fiscal expeditions in to uncharted waters. This place gets scarier everyday. Witness the post on http://www.nakecapitalism.com yesterday referencing Detroit - THAT is in a nutshell what is coming to a city near you.
Linky here: http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/04/continuing-depopulation-detroit.html
The propaganda effort failure gets more interesting by the day.
Ain’t it the truth. The more sentences I read in today’s entry the more I realize most of America suffers from Cognitive Dissonance. Therefore… “It’s all good and gittin’ better!!”
‘The 10-year German bund currently trades at a price of about 104, for a yield of 0.09 percent (which is as close to zero as makes almost no difference).’
‘If 10-year German debt — one of the few countries still rated AAA by all of the major rating agencies, a privilege even Uncle Sam doesn’t currently enjoy — was suddenly yielding 1.7 percent, Spanish bonds (currently at 1.4 percent) or Italian debt (1.42 percent) and even U.S. Treasuries (1.9 percent) would see the biggest jump in yields ever. Government and corporate borrowing costs everywhere would surge as investors reassessed the value of fixed-income securities in light of the German move; the knock-on effects into other asset classes would be catastrophic as yields rose, bond prices fell and investors backfilled their losses in a wave of selling and margin calls.’
‘It does seem intuitively uncomfortable to be lending money to the German government for a decade in return for less than one-tenth of one percent (and indeed to be paying for the privilege of lending for any time period shorter than nine years). So Gross may well be right. If he is, and German bonds suffer the kind of collapse that would echo how the pound performed in 1992, investors will find themselves in the midst of a financial Armageddon that could make the Great Crash of 1929 look like a walk in the park.’
You see this all the time:
‘Bill Gross’s ‘Short of a Lifetime’ Would Mean Armageddon’
‘It does seem intuitively uncomfortable…’
See, it’s Armageddon to suggest maybe 1.7% interest rates (for 10 years mind you). But perfectly normal to say you pay entities to borrow.
Am I predicting the end of the world when I say a grilled cheese sandwich truck isn’t worth $24 million?
Let her rrrrrrrrrrip…. Falling prices to dramatically lower and more affordable levels is exactly what this dead end economy needs.
worked in 1921
After Andrew Mellon
said let it all go”
Hoover didn’t listen,but silent Cal did
Once upon a time Thornberg told the truth:
http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2005/10/uclas-dr-thornberg-california-housing.html
I wonder what happened to him. He sounds like the NAR bought and paid for his sorry ass.
I remember well.
One can’t help wonder how much _______ is paying him to pimp BS.
HA,
While I agree with your sentiment that lower home prices are needed, that’s not happening in the Bay Area just yet. I do see drops in sales prices (which are no doubt over inflated from the last set of comps) but I don’t think I would call this “falling ” prices.
Falling sale prices aren’t falling prices?
LOLZ