April 27, 2015

Taking Equity To Purchase Investment Properties

The Monterey Herald reports from California. “The number of homes for sale in Monterey County in March hit its second lowest point in 20 years. Scarcity has helped increase the countywide median home price to $515,000. ‘It’s not good for buyers … we were really surprised it became a sellers’ market so quickly,’ said Sandy Haney, CEO of the Monterey County Association of Realtors. Haney said the lack of housing can create anxiety among real estate agents. ‘Realtors get very frustrated for their buyers,’ she said. ‘Now you have buyers who want to get into the housing market but are priced out.’”

The Sacramento Business Journal. “Luxury home sales in the Sacramento region took a 30 percent jump in the first quarter of 2015 compared to a year earlier. The easiest explanation? Look west. ‘I think we’re seeing Bay Area retirees move here,’ said Terri Briggs, regional VP at Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage in Sacramento. ‘The Bay Area is just really hot.’”

The Calaveras Enterprise. “The housing market in Calaveras County is improving, according to the Calaveras County Association of Realtors. Valerie Moon, administrative manager for the association, said that the booming housing market in the San Francisco Bay Area appears to be finally impacting Calaveras County as Bay Area residents take the equity they have in homes there to purchase investment properties, second homes and vacation homes here. ‘Our second home market is integral to the overall picture of our sales volume,’ Moon said.”

The Daily Press. “Although California rental rate increases continue to lead the nation, the rental market remains affordable in the High Desert Becky Otwell, president of the High Desert Association of Realtors, said the High Desert does not fit into the category of ‘normal or average’ when compared to other locations in California. ‘The High Desert is a different animal when it comes to home prices, including rentals,’ Otwell said. ‘We may have a lot of homes available, but people are still wary of buying versus renting. Rents are low because many people still don’t have money to purchase a home and property owners know it.’”

The Lompoc Record. “When Santa Barbara Realtor JJ Lambert purchased his three-acre ranch property in his hometown of Santa Ynez, he had a plan in mind. List it on Airbnb, and scores of websites just like it, and turn a profit on the property as a vacation rental. But local jurisdictions are taking action against the sharing platform. In the tourism-saturated Santa Ynez Valley, both Buellton and Solvang have imposed strict regulations against hosts like Lambert.”

“‘It’s confusing for somebody selling property here because you can’t represent the fact that you can do a vacation rental, and you know people are intending to do that. It becomes a disclosure issue … and then makes it a very tough selling point. It could hurt property values in the area,’ said Lambert. ‘The only feasible way [to afford the home] was to vacation rent it and use it when it’s vacant. If I’m not renting it, then I’m selling my house.’”

From San Diego News. “Those for and against short term vacation rentals (STVRs) testified April 22 before the city’s Smart Growth and Land Use Committee, which took no action and will continue the hearing on May 29. The committee meeting had to be moved to Council chambers due to the huge crowd that turned out for the contentious issue. Several residents, many along the coast, testified that they were responsible STVR landlords. Many of them noted that was the only way they could continue to own their homes given today’s high cost of living.”

The San Diego Reader. “While local cities continue to seek regulations on short-term vacation rentals, a bill making its way to the state legislature may provide the teeth needed for effective enforcement. In San Diego, an overflow crowd showed up to a city-council committee meeting on Wednesday, April 22, to voice their opinions. Those supporting the rentals said they took care to be conscientious neighbors, and that the income from renting out spare bedrooms or even entire residences allowed them to pay for needed repairs or supplement meager incomes. A La Jolla man said he’d face foreclosure if he was no longer able to rent out a second unit on his property to vacationing tourists.”

The LA Downtown News. “Once again, a new high-rise has been proposed for South Park. Also once again, it marks the revival of a project announced before the recession. Vancouver, Wash.-based developer Holland Partner Group is moving ahead with plans for a 28-story, 341-apartment tower on Ninth Street between Figueroa and Flower streets. The project, originally broached by developer Sonny Astani, would join two existing residential complexes on the block, the 30-story Apex and the seven-story Concerto.”

“Astani had completed the seven-story annex and was in construction on the 30-story tower when the recession hit and he encountered trouble with his lender, Corus Bank. Corus went bankrupt and a heated legal fracas ensued. The parties settled in 2011, but Astani had to give up his stake in the project.”

“The current project has smaller floor plans than originally envisioned. Tom Warren, head of Holland Partner’s Southern California development, said that is a response to slow turnover of the bigger apartments in nearby residential complexes. ‘What we know is that the larger units in [Apex] are struggling. They are still several that are vacant at the top of the tower,’ Warren said.”




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Comment by Professor Bear
2015-04-27 05:14:54

“…the booming housing market in the San Francisco Bay Area appears to be finally impacting Calaveras County as Bay Area residents take the equity they have in homes there to purchase investment properties, second homes and vacation homes here.”

Long-time readers here will recall how Californians buying investment properties on margin was one of the factors that set up the previous crash.

Comment by Ben Jones
2015-04-27 05:54:07

We’ve also seen versions of this before:

‘It’s confusing for somebody selling property here because you can’t represent the fact that you can do a vacation rental, and you know people are intending to do that.’

Remember FB’s running into HOA/condo association rules about renting? It wasn’t that long ago. But with Airbnb and the like, it’s taken on a new life. I’m guessing these people are gambling on appreciation and renting it out for the short term:

‘It becomes a disclosure issue … and then makes it a very tough selling point. It could hurt property values in the area,’ said Lambert. ‘The only feasible way [to afford the home] was to vacation rent it and use it when it’s vacant.’

Comment by GuillotineRenovator
2015-04-27 12:01:48

These new “rentals” don’t pencil out. So, they are gambling on big appreciation while subsidizing the rent in the short/medium term. I honestly cannot believe we’re right back into the same mentally retarded infestor situation.

Comment by AmazingRuss
2015-04-27 12:11:45

When it’s impossible for most people to earn an honest living, they are driven to this.

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Comment by Califoh20
2015-04-27 14:30:06

Russ - know one is being driven anywhere. It is their choice. They are not victims IMO.
Yes, the CA bubble is alive and well all over again. This time with lower rates, but much harder to qualify.

When Stockton starts to boom, you know the end is near.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Califoh20
2015-04-27 14:27:29

I bought my second home with a NINJA loan in 2005.

Comment by Housing Analyst
2015-04-27 14:55:19

Thats about your speed Califoho.

 
 
 
Comment by Combotechie
2015-04-27 05:45:44

“‘Realtors get very frustrated for their buyers,’ she said. ‘Now you have buyers who want to get into the housing market but are priced out.’”

For their buyers, realtors get frustrated for their buyers.

Oh, the pain!

Pain for the realtors in that sales volume has to pick up in order for them to make commissions. But it doesn’t look good to realtors to spin it that way so they spin it another way.

 
Comment by Ben Jones
2015-04-27 06:30:23

‘Increasing housing prices and stagnating wages in the San Diego region are harming the area’s economy, according to a study released Thursday by the National University System Institute for Policy Research.’

‘With families having to spend a larger percentage of their income on housing, less money is available for discretionary purchases like cars, health care, education, food and entertainment, said NUSIPR economist Kelly Cunningham.’

‘That means more cash is going to financial institutions based out of town, rather than local car dealers, restaurants and entertainment venues, he said. “Rising housing prices are further straining the region’s already pressured household budgets,” Cunningham said. “Housing costs are a key impediment to regional growth and greater economic prosperity.”

‘A study by the National Association of Home Builders said San Diego County was the 10th least affordable metropolitan area in the U.S. in the fourth quarter last year, with just 25 percent of households able to afford a median priced home.’

‘While the $430,000 median price of a home in the fourth quarter of last year was 59 percent higher than the recession-era low in 2009, the median household income of just under $73,000 was actually lower by a couple thousand bucks.’

‘Housing prices were six times that of the median household income, well above the historical average of four times, and nearing the eight times seen during the housing bubble in the last decade.’

Comment by Ben Jones
2015-04-27 06:33:07

‘I read with interest a new report Thursday by the National University System Institute for Policy Research that maintains the high cost of housing in San Diego is hurting the region’s economy.’

‘It makes sense to me. We spend more of our disposable income on nice big homes, especially here in the coastal zone, and that leaves us with less dough to spend on cars, going out to eat, and entertainment.’

‘I can relate. I have a wonderful home in Carlsbad with ocean views, and yet every time I eat out and spend more than $10 on lunch I feel guilty and spend the next few days reheating the kids’ leftovers, no matter now old or nibbled-on they are, until they are gone.’

‘But this begets the age-old question: What can we do about it? Home prices are a function of supply and demand; if people want to live here, they are going to pay the price, and we won’t see home prices fall until demand dies down — as we saw during the Great Recession of 2008-2009, which hit the wealthy especially hard and saw coastal North County home prices tumble.’

‘I am a bit leery, though, about the fact that home prices have recovered and are back up to housing bubble levels.’

This is because you live in the poorest state in the US:

’spend more than $10 on lunch I feel guilty and spend the next few days reheating the kids’ leftovers, no matter now old or nibbled-on they are’

Comment by Mr. Banker
2015-04-27 06:40:52

“… high cost of housing in San Diego is hurting the region’s economy.”

Equity, suck out that equity and spend it and the local economy will boom - it will boom forever!

And as for David Lereah, in your heart you know he’s right.

(Bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha)

 
Comment by Rental Watch
2015-04-27 13:18:09

Supply/demand balance seems to effect price more than income levels.

Of course, without the income to support prices in times of higher supply and overall economic weakness, you will see GREATER price corrections than if prices were more in line with incomes.

Thus the greater swings in CA home prices than in other markets.

But to get the next correction, you need to see economic weakness, and/or a significant increase in supply (ie. more development).

With gradual increasing development, there is a bit of a tailwind for the economy, so I suspect we will get to the next decline in prices only after development has increased significantly from current levels.

Comment by Housing Analyst
2015-04-27 13:33:28

And with massive excess housing inventory and collapsing demand, you get this Rental_Fraud.

San Francisco Metro Sale Prices Crater 4% YoY; Demand Plummets In Tech-Centric Cities

http://www.zillow.com/ca/home-values/

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Comment by Califoh20
2015-04-27 14:33:28

How is CA, both the “poorest state” and the 8th largest economy in the world? Do you mean poor aquifer levels? hehee

Wages in CA are crazy-high.

Comment by Housing Analyst
2015-04-27 14:56:28

You’ve been schooled on that fact more than once.

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Comment by Ben Jones
2015-04-27 15:53:28

‘The U.S. Census Bureau has determined, under its “supplemental poverty measure,” that California is the poorest state in America. For the second year in a row.’

http://www.laweekly.com/news/california-is-americas-poorest-state-4177082

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Comment by Califoh20
2015-04-27 17:54:41

aha! Doesnt feel too poor 15 miles from the coast all the way up and down. Ever been to Big Sur? Love to be “poor” and live there.

We do have Bakersfield and Stockton, but they might as well be in NV.

 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2015-04-27 17:59:19

The most impoverished state in the nation. Yeah. Very poor.

 
Comment by Ben Jones
2015-04-27 18:34:30

‘For the second year in a row.’

Now it’s the third.

 
Comment by Califoh20
2015-04-28 10:40:17

I am in Santa Barbara this week…. poor?? lol!

 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2015-04-28 10:42:12

fail

 
 
 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2015-04-27 08:17:06

‘Housing prices were six times that of the median household income, well above the historical average of four times, and nearing the eight times seen during the housing bubble in the last decade.’

In short, it is a historically bad time to buy im San Diego.

Comment by taxpayers
2015-04-27 10:51:17

less than 3x before fanny , freddie and HUD

 
 
Comment by Cactus
2015-04-27 09:06:54

‘Housing prices were six times that of the median household income, well above the historical average of four times, and nearing the eight times seen during the housing bubble in the last decade.’

8X think we will hit that again ?

Comment by Housing Analyst
2015-04-27 13:54:39

We’ll see 1x again. In fact I’m certain of it.

Comment by Professor Bear
2015-04-27 23:30:57

In our own lifetimes, or is this something our kids should eventually expect to see?

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Comment by Ben Jones
2015-04-27 06:37:56

‘Surrounded by golf courses in La Quinta, a patch of plowed desert is being preparing for construction. The property’s developers conceptualize the first phase of a neighborhood there — 78 houses with designs named “Italian Farmhouse” and “Tuscan Villa.” A handful of them will back up to a lake big enough for boating. It’s called The Estates at Griffin Lake.’

‘This is just one of many visions for future neighborhoods in the Coachella Valley. Another scheme, the Section 24 Specific Plan on land near the Agua Caliente Casino Resort and Spa, proposes 2,400 homes, plus retail and office space, on 577 acres of open desert beside the freeway.’

‘And then there’s La Entrada, a proposed Coachella development so big it would require two new freeway exits. The project would bring almost 8,000 houses to the city and, according to the project’s draft environmental impact report, use as much water as 65 percent of the city did in 2010.’

‘For months, residents have wondered where the water required to support all this development will come from. “We already know we’re on critical for water, but we’re always adding new homes, we’re always adding new condominiums. And no one ever equates it to water and what is it going to do to us with regard to water,” said Ronald Zimmerman, a retired airline employee who lives in Palm Springs. He said that when he drives around the valley and sees new construction underway, he feels a sense of helplessness because local officials don’t seem to be taking a hard look at assessing the water supplies.’

“I can understand why they want to draw more people, but it’s not like we’re in the Midwest or the East where they have plenty of water,” Zimmerman said.’

Comment by Rental Watch
2015-04-27 13:22:21

The funny thing is that if what you are doing is converting agricultural land (there is some in the eastern part of the Coachella Valley) to homes, water usage goes down.

 
 
Comment by Ben Jones
2015-04-27 06:53:51

‘Millions of Americans will soon see monthly bills shoot up on home equity lines of credit (HELOCs) taken out during the housing boom, because HELOCs are going to start making homeowners pay both interest and principal, not just interest. That’s bad news because many consumers are already underwater, meaning they owe more than their places are worth, a RealtyTrac study shows.’

‘A RealtyTrac analysis of public property records across America found that at least 3.3 million homes still carry HELOCs from the 2005-08 era, with 1.8 million of these residences — or 56% of the total — considered “seriously underwater.” Consumers who own those homes owe lenders at least 125% of a property’s current market value.’

‘RealtyTrac expects the biggest problems in California, Florida and Illinois, which have not only high levels of boom-era HELOCs in general but lots of loans tied to seriously underwater homes.’

‘For example, the firm found that some 646,000 California residences carry 2005-08 HELOCs, including 424,000 linked to properties whose owners are deeply in the red.’

‘Mark Hughes of First Team Real Estate near Los Angeles expects many underwater homeowners simply to “walk away” from their residences, moving out and letting lenders deal with the problem.’

“I think a lot of people will say: ‘Not only can I not afford the higher HELOC payments, but do I even want to try? Am I just throwing good money after bad?’” he says.’

Comment by Puggs
2015-04-27 08:59:31

…but can you just simply walk away from an underwater HELOC’d house??? I don’t think it’s as easy as just giving the keys back. Plus, all your lovely “walk away” tax payer funded debt forgiveness plans have expired.

“Let no debt go uncollected”. I’ve heard stories of people being pulled back into court for debts they thought were forgiven by the lender only to find out it was sold to a debt collector. Note to walkaways: if you don’t have it in writing, it never happened.

Comment by Bluto
2015-04-27 12:05:55

In general 1st mortgages are non recourse loans in California, but HELOC’s usually are not so the lender CAN come after you if you default on one…so you are right, the borrower can walk away but the lender is likely to take legal action on a HELOC default so the consequences will likely be different than flaking on a 1st mortgage.

Comment by Bluto
2015-04-27 12:07:06
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Comment by Professor Bear
2015-04-27 23:47:27

Hasn’t it been nigh a decade since the first warning was sounded on looming HELOC resets? Something tells me this issue will blow over without any significant economic impact.

 
 
Comment by Rich
2015-04-27 07:15:57

‘We may have a lot of homes available, but people are still wary of buying versus renting. Rents are low because many people still don’t have money to purchase a home and property owners know it.’”

Well Becky Otwell let me tell you why no one buys. The High Desert is the dumping ground for the poor, would you buy a home next door to a Section 8 rental with 8-10 people living in it ? Your days (and nights) are filled with blasting music (Rap and that god awful Mexican polka music), barking dogs, parties every weekend plus stuff starts turning up missing (garden hose, shovels, Christmas lights). Yeah Honey lets buy this house and raise a family here in the High Desert. I used to live next too such a house and I think every Realtor should be sentenced to live next door to such a house. Everyday I see the U-Haul trucks pulling into my area and let me tell you they aint buying. I’m counting the days till I kiss this place (High Desert) goodbye.

Comment by In Colorado
2015-04-27 11:35:35

that god awful Mexican polka music

Even in southern Mexico most people hate that cr@p. Apparently it is popular (for reasons I can’t grasp) in northern Mexico.

 
 
Comment by Ben Jones
2015-04-27 07:56:18

‘The current project has smaller floor plans than originally envisioned. Tom Warren, head of Holland Partner’s Southern California development, said that is a response to slow turnover of the bigger apartments in nearby residential complexes. ‘What we know is that the larger units in [Apex] are struggling. They are still several that are vacant at the top of the tower,’ Warren said.’

The LA Downtown News is a booster site, but I follow it because it zeros in on that area. This is the first crack I’ve seen in the many years boom, since the last debacle. (Usually the only negative thing you’ll read is, ‘what are we going to do with all these bums?’)

A while back it was a lot of Vancouver developers. Now the Chinese are throwing billions into towers. It went so well last time:

‘Astani had completed the seven-story annex and was in construction on the 30-story tower when the recession hit and he encountered trouble with his lender, Corus Bank. Corus went bankrupt and a heated legal fracas ensued.’

 
Comment by Ben Jones
2015-04-27 08:02:48

From the links above:

‘Longtime PB resident Larry Emlaw noted STVRs are a “citywide issue.” He added some areas of the city, like PB, are “much more heavily impacted.” Emlaw warned that the continuing proliferation of STVRs could forever change the community’s character.’

“STVRs can cause the destruction of neighborhoods,” Emlaw said, adding, “This is not a police matter, it’s an incompatibility matter. If you live next door to an STVR, you will be forced to move. That property (hence) will not be able to be purchased by families raising children but will only be purchased by an STVR investor.”

‘Emlaw cited Mission Beach as a case in point – a community that once had a significant number of single-family households, but now largely is an enclave for STVRs. He pointed out that Mission Beach Elementary School had to be closed because of declining attendance as families were displaced by STVRs.’

And:

‘In San Diego, an overflow crowd showed up to a city-council committee meeting on Wednesday, April 22, to voice their opinions, both in favor and against any new regulations. Airbnb representatives, who contacted customers who use their service to advertise units for rent in an attempt to drum up attendance, handed out stickers outside the meeting room.’

‘Enter Senate Bill 593, a measure penned by senator Mike McGuire (D), whose district covers the state’s northern coast from San Francisco to the Oregon border.’

‘The bill would require operators of residential short-term rentals to file quarterly reports with local municipalities, including information on the addresses where rental activity is taking place, length of guests’ stays, and total rental fees collected. It could also allow cities and counties to compel property owners to collect and remit transient occupancy taxes, as is currently required of hotel and bed-and-breakfast owners.’

‘The measure passed through the senate’s Transportation and Housing Committee on April 21. Once again, Airbnb rallied its customer base to fight further regulations.’

‘Airbnb, a San Francisco–based company reportedly valued at up to $20 billion, has vowed to continue the fight, launching a website to mobilize owners to lobby for reduced regulation of the vacation-rental market.’

I’ll say it again; these people aren’t lovin’ the black-market hotel biz. They are betting on higher house prices. And when it stops booming, this $20 billion company will take a hair-cut.

Comment by toast on the coast
2015-04-27 12:50:55

In the Deepwell area of Palm Springs signs pitting neighbor against neighbor concerning stvr are sprouting up.
Friends purchased a home there and the only way they could afford it is to rent it out as a hotel. I wouldn’t want to live next door to one.

 
 
Comment by Ben Jones
2015-04-27 08:12:42

‘Gaye Rainey, president of Southland, has a more tempered outlook. She believe the market won’t reach a fever pitch like the one that helped trigger the market collapse in 2006. Last month, the median price of a Valley house was $536,000, according to the association, up just 4 percent from a year earlier and 2 percent from February. Those kind of moderate increases will likely be the norm for a while.’

“Prices are not skyrocketing — which is good — interest rates are down, and more people are purchasing to live in their homes,” she said. “I expect this will continue.”

‘Prices have been in the same range for more than a year now, and that suggests a ceiling has been reached, at least for now. This should serve as a signal to potential sellers: Don’t overprice a home in the current market environment, Rainey said.’

‘And there is some anecdotal evidence that an inventory response to market demand is in the offing. Kozman is among several Realtors who are now fielding calls from potential sellers as well from clients wanting to buy.’

‘Robert Kleinhenz, chief economist for the Los Angeles County Economic Development Corp. said a sales uptick in 2008 and 2009 reflected investors flooding the market, buying up bargain-priced foreclosed homes and fixing them up to flip or keep as rental properties.’

‘By 2014, those kinds of properties and investors were gone, and home sales in the Valley sank to a record low. “The thing about 2014 that set it off from the prior years is we saw a significant dropoff in investors, and that void was not filled by anyone else,” Kleinhenz said. “What was missing was the repeat home buyer and the new home buyer (both) coming into the market.”

‘Now there are a few factors that may attract both more buyers and sellers, he said. People who lost a home during the recession have seen enough time pass that they can become owners again if their credit has been sufficiently repaired. And owners with equity might realize prices are not going higher any time soon and take advantage of their gains.’

Comment by Professor Bear
2015-04-27 08:26:54

‘Prices have been in the same range for more than a year now, and that suggests a ceiling has been reached, at least for now.’

Would it be accurate to suggest that prices have achieved a permanently high plateau?

 
Comment by In Colorado
2015-04-27 11:37:38

Gaye Rainey, president of Southland, has a more tempered outlook. She believe the market won’t reach a fever pitch like the one that helped trigger the market collapse in 2006.

Seems like more and more people are whistling past the graveyard

Comment by Califoh20
2015-04-27 14:40:35

+1, great observation

 
 
 
Comment by Ben Jones
2015-04-27 08:32:16

‘Since 2000, new Asian immigrants have been on the rise in Southern California while Hispanic newcomers have dwindled, said Gary Painter, a USC public policy professor specializing in immigration and housing. Six years ago, for the first time, the number of new Asian immigrants surpassed those coming from Mexico.’

‘While there is a long tradition of creative shared living arrangements, the illegal boarding house issue is complicated by the fact that incomes have not kept up with rent increases, Painter said.’

‘Resident Chi Cheng didn’t realize his next door neighbor was a house full of boarders. The people there didn’t do anything to draw his attention, he said. “They live in an illegal boarding home, but they didn’t do anything illegal,” he said in Mandarin. “If they can’t earn money in China, we should give them a chance.”

‘Ding, though, didn’t gripe much. After staying in Monterey Park for two weeks, he found a job as a handyman in Los Angeles, where he now lives. His new boarding house has seven other people, he said, so the place is cleaner and better kept.’

‘He earns $7 per hour — below California’s minimum wage — and works 10-hour days. Aside from rent and food, Ding budgeted $100 for cigarettes and will send nearly half of his $1,820 salary home to his family. Ding hopes to get a Green Card but said that’s probably not really in the stars for him.’

“I will live in America until I’m 70 or 80 and can’t work anymore,” he said. “Then I may have to return to China.”

‘Monterey Park is trying to address a problem that is widespread in many cities in the San Gabriel Valley. When single-family houses or condominiums are converted into illegal boarding homes, the commercial enterprises disrupt residential character and place undue burden on code enforcement as well as police and fire departments, city documents report. At issue is the quality of life for an entire neighborhood, City Manager Paul Talbot said.’

“When they convert a two-bedroom house into a residential motel which is now housing 30 people on mattresses laid throughout the floor with illegal plumbing, illegal electrical outlets, illegal partitions, they’re creating a health and safety hazard for themselves and the entire community,” he said.’

“It’s an underground economy because mostly they’re all cash dealings,” he said. “The neighbors there are very affected by the noise, the overcrowdedness, the sanitation problems. There’s trash all over, smoking, cigarette butts all over. They’ve complained to the city many times. It’s a fire hazard. It’s a health hazard.”

But, the weather is great!

Comment by taxpayers
2015-04-27 10:52:30

sum Ding wong

SC resident

 
Comment by Califoh20
2015-04-27 14:45:37

His Master lives in Irvine, CA and drives a Benz.

 
 
Comment by taxpayers
2015-04-27 08:57:35

wow, searching construction data base
office buildings seem to be extinct

 
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