May 9, 2015

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Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-09 00:31:22

Trees are still growing to the sky in Oz.

Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-09 00:32:58

May 7 2015 at 12:55 PM Updated May 7 2015 at 7:48 PM
Chinese investors to pump $60 billion into housing
Chinese investors are expected to pump $60 billion into housing in the next six years. Fiona Morris
by Nick Lenaghan

Chinese buyers could pump as much as $60 billion into Australian housing over the next six years, with much of that investment going into new housing, according to a Credit Suisse report.

Strategist Hasan Tevfik and his team produced a landmark analysis last year revealing the scale of Chinese housing investment for the first time.

Now they have revised those original forecasts dramatically upwards in the wake of the latest foreign investment figures.

Over the next six years to 2020, Chinese spending on housing will more than double what it has been over the previous six years.

China has become Australia’s biggest source of approved foreign investment for the first time after a $12.4 billion splurge on real estate in the last financial year.

Of that total around two-thirds, $8.7 billion, was spent by investors based in China or by new immigrants from China on residential real estate, according to the Credit Suisse analysis.

That represents an increase of 60 per cent on Chinese spending in the year. It is also equivalent to 15 per cent of the national housing supply.

“Purchases are concentrated in Sydney and Melbourne where Chinese demand is the equivalent of 23 per cent and 20 per cent of new supply, respectively,” Mr Tevfik said in a client note this week.

“While new foreign investment proposals may make Australian real estate less attractive for Chinese buyers, we believe the potential erosion of demand will be marginal.

“After all, Australia is on the doorstep of the greatest wealth creation in three centuries. Despite moderating growth, we expect more Chinese wealth to be invested abroad.”

Comment by butters
2015-05-09 07:12:45

They don’t want Kali no more?

 
Comment by Albuquerquedan
2015-05-09 07:37:13

If you are a Chinese business person and you think that your country will continue to need the natural resources of Australia at an increasing rate, it makes perfect sense to buy Australian real estate, its dollar is way down while the Yuan, unofficially tied to the U.S. dollar is way up. Any rise in commodities will cause the Aussie dollar to increase in value, thus if you buy now it is a currency play. Essentially it is a bet on a stronger Chinese economy particularly in the resource heavy sectors, we seem to be seeing a similar pattern in Canada. Does not mean they are right, but you should not ignore what the big money is doing, as opposed to saying, in any country.

Comment by Housing Analyst
2015-05-09 07:46:12

Big money is selling and going to cash. Smart move.

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Comment by Blue Skye
2015-05-09 07:48:16

The big money in China is trying to get off a corrupt sinking ship, and has been for quite some time.

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Comment by Albuquerquedan
2015-05-09 07:54:04

Why not concentrate on countries that do not have economic ties with China and would be crushed by a collapse of the Chinese economy?

 
 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-05-09 09:15:20

If you are a Chinese business person and you think that your country will continue to need the natural resources of Australia at an increasing rate, it makes perfect sense to buy Australian real estate

Or you could just invade them and take their resources.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KaX0F8GojI&spfreload=10

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Comment by Army No Va
2015-05-09 10:44:16

Invading costs more than typing a few keys on the keyboard, creating money, and sending it to them 😀

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-09 00:34:27

Is the Grexit off the table for good?

Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-05-09 09:16:24

Grexit means the Eurozone house of cards comes tumbling down. Which is going to happen at some point, but the ECB and Brussels will kick the can down the road for as long as possible.

Comment by GuillotineRenovator
2015-05-09 13:31:33

The can is filled with helium.

Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-09 13:36:34

Or is it hydrogen?

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Comment by GuillotineRenovator
2015-05-09 13:30:27

The media has completely forgotten Greece. Apparently all is well and the crisis is over with.

Comment by rms
2015-05-09 13:34:20

“The media has completely forgotten Greece.”

Greece got their fifteen minutes.

Back to Kim and Kanye…

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-09 13:59:46

Schaeuble Says Greece Playing Chicken With Default Risk
by Eleni Chrepa
1:32 AM PST
May 9, 2015

German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble warned that governments can sometimes default by accident, in a jab at Greek officials still holding out for a better deal from creditors as their cash supplies run critically low.

Greece is preparing for a meeting of euro-region finance ministers on Monday with the European Central Bank threatening to restrict the country’s access to bank funding unless there’s progress toward an aid deal. Greece’s creditors say the government’s plans for fixing the economy aren’t yet detailed enough to justify more financial support.

“Experience elsewhere in the world has shown that a country can suddenly become unable to pay its bills,” Schaeuble said in an interview with Frankfurter Allgemeine Sonntagszeitung published Saturday. Schaeuble said he’ll do everything he can to keep Greece in the euro. “If it fails, it won’t be because of us,” he added.

Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-09 15:46:58

The Greeks can afford to play chicken because ECB chief Draghi has already announced that no Grexit will be allowed to occur.

Greece is officially too-big-to-fail.

World Europe
ECB’s Draghi Rejects Talk of Greek Euro Exit
At IMF meetings in Washington, European Central Bank chief reiterates euro is irrevocable
ECB President Mario Draghi rejected speculation that Greece might be forced out of the eurozone while addressing a news conference in Washington at the IMF spring meetings on Saturday.
Photo: European Pressphoto Agency
By Brian Blackstone and Ian Talley
Updated April 18, 2015 4:37 p.m. ET

WASHINGTON—European Central Bank President Mario Draghi on Saturday rejected speculation that Greece may be forced to abandon the euro, reiterating that Europe’s single currency is irrevocable.

At a news conference during meetings here of the world’s top finance officials, Mr. Draghi said he stood by a comment he made in 2012 that the euro “cannot be reversed.”

The risk of a Greek exit appears to be rising, as a stalemate between Greece and its creditors over emergency financing drags on with some big bills due for Athens in the coming weeks.

Despite the urgent circumstances, the International Monetary Fund’s Managing Director Christine Lagarde on Saturday said she had learned little new in talks with Greek Finance Minister Yanis Varoufakis last week, and urged him promptly to submit a detailed proposal for a fresh bailout.

“What we very much hope…is not only speeding, but deepening the work,” she said. “It’s not a question of racing to the end, it’s a question of doing all the work that needs to be done.”

After a series of meetings in recent days between Mr. Varoufakis, the IMF and his counterparts from the U.S. and Europe, senior officials sounded increasingly frustrated that Athens hasn’t put forward a detailed plan to overhaul its government finances and restore Greek economic growth in a way that would encourage bailout lenders to unlock financing the country needs to avoid default.

Progress on a list of changes the Greek government would implement in return for sustained aid has stalled in recent weeks. The recently elected left-wing government continues to resist overhauls in a number of areas, including further changes to Greece’s pension system and labor market to which its predecessors had agreed in 2012.

“The job of the finance minister…is to go deep in the analysis, pull out the numbers, assessing the efforts undertaken, making a few hypotheticals about what it will deliver in terms of growth, in terms of fiscal revenues, or spending, and then move on,” Ms. Lagarde said.

French Finance Minister Michel Sapin said Saturday “nothing has changed” regarding Greece after days of meetings among top finance officials in Washington. “We’re at the same situation at the end as we were at the beginning.”

German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schäuble damped hopes for a breakthrough in the Greek situation at a closely watched meeting of eurozone finance chiefs in Riga, Latvia, this week. “It doesn’t look like there will be a solution in Riga,” the German minister said. “It is clear of course that things have got worse and it’s difficult for Greece.”

The German finance minister said the onus remains on Greece to commit to overhauls in return for sustained aid, based on the Feb. 20 agreement to extend Greece’s bailout by four months. “The debate isn’t getting better by repetition,” he said. “The time lapse means Greece can’t access the outstanding funds.”

A senior IMF official Friday said negotiations over fresh emergency financing for Greece are likely to take several more weeks, even though Athens requires a deal to help it meet a big increase in debt payments due in June.

The ECB’s Mr. Draghi said in 2012 “there is no going back to the lira or the drachma or to any other currency. It is pointless to bet against the euro. It is pointless to go short on the euro.”

On Saturday, he said he would “say exactly the same words today.”

A Greek default on its debts would in turn threaten the country’s banks and make it harder for the ECB to approve emergency lending via the Greek central bank.

Mr. Draghi declined to say how the ECB would react to any Greek default, saying: “I don’t want even to contemplate” such a scenario. “We all want Greece to succeed,” Mr. Draghi said, adding, “the answer is in the hands of the Greek government.”

 
 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-09 00:35:45

Does China’s slowdown even matter?

Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-09 00:40:10

Why China’s slowdown matters
By Andrew Walker BBC World Service economics correspondent
8 May 2015

After a long period of stunning growth, China’s economy is now slowing.

The economy grew at an average rate of 10% a year for the three decades up to 2010.

It has slowed markedly. Last year, the Chinese economy grew 7.4%. The International Monetary Fund (IMF)’s most recent forecast is 6.8% for this year and 6.3% for 2016.

So why is this significant?

Why is China’s economy slowing?

The government wanted a slowdown, and has encouraged it because there are long-term forces that mean it was inevitable sooner or later.

Better, if possible, to have a gentle slowdown - called a “soft landing” - than a disruptive one.

More fully, China’s very fast economic growth was based on some factors that could not last forever.

Very high levels of investment have been part of the story.

Last year, the figure was 48% of economic activity, or gross domestic product (GDP), according to IMF data.

There are only a few other economies where the figure is so high.

Most are in the 15-30% range.

Investment is certainly essential for improving the capacity of the economy for the future.

High investment rates have been important factors in other Asian economic success stories.

But you can have too much of a good thing.

There is always a risk with large-scale investment that some projects will be uneconomic.

It can lead to instability in property prices if there is heavy investment in construction, and there have been persistent concerns about whether China might have a property market crash.

Comment by Combotechie
2015-05-09 06:16:27

“More fully, China’s very fast economic growth was based on some factors that could not last forever.”

One factor being the total insanity of China’s trade partners in the West.

The insanity seems to be lasting forever but the money that financed the insanity didn’t quite make it that far.

Comment by palmetto
2015-05-09 06:56:40

Best. Bits Comment. Today.

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Comment by Albuquerquedan
2015-05-09 06:58:07

Most everything in the article agrees with what I have been saying. The portion you highlighted says that some people are worried about a property crash not that one has happened or even numbers supporting the view that it needs to occur. The latest property numbers out of China support the stabilization of housing view not a crash. As China becomes a larger and larger economy and the world continues to grow much slower that it is growing will it slow down, of course, it is just the law of large numbers.

Comment by Albuquerquedan
2015-05-09 07:00:10
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Comment by Albuquerquedan
2015-05-09 07:04:43

Excerpt from link:

China has relatively ample room to use various monetary tools to effectively manage and supply liquidity, and there is no need to use QE to inject a large amount of liquidity into the market, said the PBOC.

QE, in essence, is a monetary policy with an accelerated expansion of a central bank’s balance sheet while policy rates are close to zero. Some advanced economies like the United States and Japan used QE to stimulate lending and spending activities.

However, China has more room than many advanced economies to cut interest rates and the reserve requirement ratio (RRR), the amount of cash banks must park at the central bank, according to analysts. They say the market is misusing the term QE with regard to China’s monetary policy.

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Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-05-09 07:08:22

China’s leadership concerned over sharpness of slowdown; recall shill AB Dan to Beijing to consult on how to spin bad news.

http://wolfstreet.com/2015/05/08/china-exports-imports-plunge-china-containerized-freight-index-ccfi-hits-multi-year-low-leaders-caught-off-guard-by-sharpness-of-downturn/

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Comment by Housing Analyst
2015-05-09 07:14:54

Falling global prices Dan.

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Comment by Blue Skye
2015-05-09 07:51:01

“the law of large numbers…”

When did you make that boner up?

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Comment by Albuquerquedan
2015-05-09 07:56:27

It has been used for decades in the business world. It is just the reality that a small cap stock has the ability to grow faster than a large cap stock that has already reached a dominate position in its market.

 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2015-05-09 07:58:27

It’s a new mathematical paradigm developed by the PricePimps.

 
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Comment by Albuquerquedan
2015-05-09 08:05:08

Excerpt, it works for countries too, now that China by some measurements is the largest economy in the world, you cannot expect it to grow at the same rate:

As an example, assume that company X has a market capitalization of $400 billion and company Y has a market capitalization of $5 billion. In order for company X to grow by 50%, it must increase its market capitalization by $200 billion, while company Y would only have to increase its market capitalization by $2.5 billion. The law of large numbers suggests that it is much more likely that company Y will be able to expand by 50% than company X.

The law of large numbers makes logical sense. If a large company continues to grow at 30-50% every year, it would eventually become bigger than the economy itself! Obviously, this can’t happen and eventually growth has to slow down. As a result, investing in companies with very high market capitalization can dampen the potential for stock appreciation.

Read more: http://www.investopedia.com/terms/l/lawoflargenumbers.asp#ixzz3ZebRK5CI
Follow us: @Investopedia on Twitter

 
Comment by Albuquerquedan
2015-05-09 08:25:29

The law of large numbers makes logical sense. If a large company continues to grow at 30-50% every year, it would eventually become bigger than the economy itself

that part is not technically true what would happen is the company would reach a point where it was 99.999….% of the economy, I don’t think Apple is going to make it.

 
Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2015-05-09 08:36:01

that part is not technically true what would happen is the company would reach a point where it was 99.999….% of the economy,

At which point it would be impossible for it to grow at 30-50%/yr, as it would asymptotically approach precisely the growth rate of the economy.

Re-read the snippet…

 
Comment by Albuquerquedan
2015-05-09 08:45:18

My point is it can never become larger than the economy since it is part of the economy. Similarly, China can never become larger than the world’s GDP it can only become a larger part of the world’s GDP and that happens every year. When the revised GDP for the U.S. comes out it will show a negative rate for the first quarter. We are shrinking in terms of the percentage of the World’s GDP we are producing.

 
Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2015-05-09 08:50:28

My point is it can never become larger than the economy since it is part of the economy.

And by being myopic on that, you have missed the point of the snippet, which is that it is impossible for a company to grow at 30-50% forever—which is true.

 
Comment by Blue Skye
2015-05-09 09:00:27

The question for China is can the accumulation of debt continue to exceed productive output forever.

 
Comment by Blue Skye
2015-05-09 10:52:34

“We are shrinking in terms of the percentage of the World’s GDP we are producing…”

This could be a very good thing for “us”. GDP is largely a measure of government spending and credit expansion. Producing waste and debt is not such a benefit long term.

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-09 10:03:38

“Most everything in the article agrees with what I have been saying.”

Oh yeah, especially the part about growth slowing below 7%. You’ve been constantly warning here that 7% growth is not sustainable.

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Comment by Albuquerquedan
2015-05-09 10:38:48

I stated that it would be around 7% in both 2014 and 2015, and the board fought me on that point. It was 7.4% in 2014 and even the IMF states it will be 6.8% this year. Sorry but that is around 7%, both the number and the average of the two years. You are being proved wrong by me and are reaching for straws.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-09 10:58:56

Since you constantly adjust your predictions to match emerging news, it is very hard for your forecasts to ever miss.

 
Comment by Albuquerquedan
2015-05-09 11:10:09

I have been completely consistent and you have been completely consistent in trying to misrepresent what I said because you hate that I have been right and you have been wrong.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-09 11:33:05

Though I find your 24/7 propaganda blast somewhat irritating, I’m not whatsoever hung up on who is “right” or “wrong” in predicting China’s official GDP growth rate releases.

That’s your preoccupation; deal with it!

 
Comment by GuillotineRenovator
2015-05-09 13:34:28

“I have been completely consistent..”

Yes, you consistently lie, over, and over, and over, and over….

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Combotechie
2015-05-09 04:50:40

For those who care, here’s some five-year charts of energy futures:

http://finviz.com/futures_charts.ashx?t=ENERGY&p=m1

Lots of debt enthusiastically sprung into being when energy prices were high and … and much of that debt is still there.

Comment by Combotechie
2015-05-09 06:07:12

And if much of that debt that sprung into being is to remain there then somehow the prices that justified - that supported - all that debt will have to come back.

But if these prices don’t come back then the support for the debt won’t be there and hence the debt will collapse.

Which means anyone who is somehow connected to this non-supported debt is going to get hosed.

Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2015-05-09 08:32:39

Those charts are simply amazing—not just the energy one, but the commodities in general. You can see at a glance how many different resources responded in lock-step to the price manipulation of the Federal Reserve. So many things rockets up with QE! So many things crashe in its wake!

I have a feeling economic historians will be analyzing this episode for the next 100yrs.

Comment by oxide
2015-05-09 09:47:20

Is there a trend in the graphs of The Precious? I can’t make one out.

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Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-09 10:13:03

You may have to wait for rate hikes to clearly discern the inverse relationship between gold prices and interest rates.

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-09 10:11:37

So far I’ve heard nobody except you attribute the commodities crash to the QE taper. Seems like a much more plausible explanation than “Obama dollar spiking”!

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Comment by Albuquerquedan
2015-05-09 10:40:30

Yea the 25% increase in the relative value of the dollar had nothing to do with it. LOL.

 
Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2015-05-09 10:51:07

It has always struck me as an obvious truth; I wonder why no one is talking about it?

Gasoline poured on a fire flares up quickly, but also dies down rapidly.

So it goes with cash injected into the economy… An economy needs dense fuel, not volatile fuel.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-09 11:01:52

“Yea the 25% increase in the relative value of the dollar had nothing to do with it. LOL.”

You are missing it, as usual. The 25% increase in the relative value of the dollar was a consequence of the QE taper, along with the commodities crash.

Neither had anything to do with Obama.

 
Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2015-05-09 11:53:42

The 25% increase in the relative value of the dollar was a consequence of the QE taper

+infinity. The dollar is worth more today when we aren’t electronically-printing them like there is no tomorrow.

 
Comment by GuillotineRenovator
2015-05-09 13:39:20

Make traders take DELIVERY of crude. That in itself would wreck prices.

 
 
 
 
 
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Comment by Housing Analyst
2015-05-09 05:48:33

hmmmm….

“preowned single-family home sales rose by 7 percent last month. And sales of condominiums and townhouses were 13 percent higher than in April 2013

Why 2013? Let’s take a look at the 2014 data Idgits. Uh oh.

Dallas/Fort Worth Housing Demand Collapses 22% YoY

http://files.zillowstatic.com/research/public/Metro/Metro_Turnover_AllHomes.csv

Remember…. I can ask $50k for my 10 year old Chevy truck but where is the buyer at that price?

So it is with any other depreciating asset like a house.

Comment by ibbots
2015-05-09 06:16:52

That passage refers to volume genius.

Nonetheless, the days of decent sub $200k houses in Dallas are gone.

Comment by Housing Analyst
2015-05-09 06:22:53

It refers to demand. Interesting our NAR affiliate author Steve Brown conveniently skipped an entire year of falling demand.

Why is that?

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Comment by ibbots
2015-05-09 06:47:32

No housing demand in North Texas, good point.

 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2015-05-09 06:51:40

You’re backpedalling.

 
 
Comment by Blue Skye
2015-05-09 07:09:07

“days of decent sub $200k houses in Dallas are gone…”

Bubbles are not permanent, nor are they sustainable.

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Comment by GuillotineRenovator
2015-05-09 13:41:40

“Nonetheless, the days of decent sub $200k houses in Dallas are gone.”

Not even close, shill. They’ll be returning with a vengeance.

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Comment by rallying the base
2015-05-09 05:39:41

Clubber Lang is a paid employee of Sheldon Adelson.

Comment by Ben Jones
2015-05-09 06:29:52

The whole thing is bizarre:

‘Elton Simpson and Nadir Soofi were useful idiots. The two men — who drove to Garland, Texas, from their apartment in Phoenix to shoot up a contest where the $10,000 prize went to a cartoonist deemed to have drawn the best mocking picture of Islam’s Prophet Mohammed — were the only Muslims who rose to the provocation of Pamela Geller and her organization, the American Freedom Defense Initiative.’

‘Yes, people are talking about Geller now — including me, obviously — but the debate is over whether Pam Geller is a bigoted champion of free speech or just a bigot. That’s not the conversation she wanted. You know you’re not faring well when Donald Trump calls you an “obnoxious blowhard” whose “taunting” Mohammed-drawing event was “disgusting.”

‘By haplessly dying, Simpson and Soofi deprived Geller of what she most wants, which is for us to be afraid of Muslims, like she is.’

‘What we have is a series of provocations against Muslims not only in the US but also throughout the West, funded and promoted by right-wing movements who believe the West is being sold out by pro-Muslim “appeasers” and whose devotion and loyalty to Israel borders on the fanatic. The effect if not the conscious goal of these movements – which exist in countries with substantial Muslim populations – is to recreate the conditions under which Israel itself suffers: a state of siege constantly reinforced by the prospect of terrorist attacks.’

‘Who benefits from this evolving state of affairs?’

‘The best way to find this out is to follow the money, but in Geller’s case one runs up against a wall of obfuscation. The Forward was able to tease out a $100,000 donation in 2013 and 2014 “sent through the Jewish Communal Fund, a donor-advised charity that allows the original funding source to direct where it wants its donation to go while masking its identity.” But that’s just half of Geller’s annual salary. How is it they were able to write a check for $12,500 to Bosch Fawstin, the winner of the Hate Mohammed contest? How could they have afforded $50,000 for the extra security around the Garland event? Their 990 forms – which must be filed with the IRS in order to secure their tax-exempt status – are singularly uninformative, listing only the total amount of nearly a million dollars in revenue for 2013, the latest tax year available.’

‘It’s highly likely that they received their funding from the same sources that the neoconservatives have grown fat off of for all these years: the big conservative foundations. This report, Fear, Inc., compiled by the Center for American Progress, hauls out the usual suspects – all of them the same moneybags neocons have been feeding off since they took over the conservative movement in the cold war years, including: Donors Capital Fund, the Richard Mellon Scaife foundations, the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation, the Newton D. & Rochelle F. Becker foundations and charitable trust, the Russell Berrie Foundation, the Anchorage Charitable Fund and William Rosenwald Family Fund, and the Fairbrook Foundation.’

‘In just the first half of this decade more than $42 million passed into the coffers of the hating-on-Muslims industry, courtesy of these foundations.’

‘Neoconservative ideologue Jamie Kirchick says Pamela Geller, the well-known anti-Muslim demagogue, is an “embarrassment.” “She’s what you would get,” he writes, “if Fran Drescher and the late ultranationalist anti-Arab rabbi-turned-political leader Meir Kahane reproduced.” But why is Kirchick embarrassed? After all, what has Geller to do with him?’

‘The answer is that Geller says what he and his “respectable” confreres over at National Review, the Weekly Standard and Commentary magazine only dare to imply, and she says it loudly, braying her bigotry without regard for facts or fashion. She’s the neocons’ portrait of Dorian Gray, sitting up in the attic hidden from the world, but now it’s coming down the stairs – and that’s embarrassing for the Park Avenue neocons who wrinkle their noses at the brazen ugliness of her pronouncements, which so perfectly reflect their own worldview.’

Comment by rallying the base
2015-05-09 06:46:25

+1

Comment by Albuquerquedan
2015-05-09 07:47:15

When it comes to Islam the globalists seem to have schizophrenia but in reality they are just using a real threat to achieve their goals in a ruthless manner. The Globalists play up the threat to achieve more surveillance capacity, and to attempt to “nation build” Islamic countries to accept the whole concept of world trade and government. However, they are quite upset that people react to attacks by wanting to tighten borders and limit immigration. That is the part of the Islamic threat that they want to minimize. However, limiting immigration from Islamic countries is the most cost effective method of protecting ourselves. People that point that out are demonized while people that want to intervene in Libya and Syria are glorified.

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Comment by Ben Jones
2015-05-09 08:09:08

Some may be both, but neocons and globalists aren’t the same thing.

 
Comment by GuillotineRenovator
2015-05-09 13:44:32

“…but neocons and globalists aren’t the same thing.”

But almost all neocons are globalists.

 
 
 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-05-09 07:47:05

+1

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-09 10:15:47

You know you’re not faring well when Donald Trump calls you an “obnoxious blowhard” whose “taunting” Mohammed-drawing event was “disgusting.”

Despite my near-nonexistent interest in this nonsense, I have to say that Trump calling someone an “obnoxious blowhard” is completely awesome.

 
Comment by Selfish Hoarder
2015-05-09 11:56:13

I have a friend in the neighborhood in Texas where this event happened. He has a wife and young children. While he is disgusted with violent Muslims, he is equally disgusted with Geller. He said she would not dare hold an event like that in her home in New York. Why? She obviously does not want to attract angry Muslims to her family. But she is happy to raise hatred and fan the flames of violence in faraway places where innocent people can get killed.

Sadly there are probably Neo con locals there who don’t get this. Now my friend is worried that his area is a magnet for religious violence.

Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-09 11:59:48

It seems like a similar dynamic to outside agitators who show up in protest zones in places like Ferguson and Baltimore to encourage peaceful protests to turn violent.

“Not in my backyard…”

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Comment by Clubber Lang
2015-05-09 14:01:59

“He said she would not dare hold an event like that in her home in New York. Why? She obviously does not want to attract angry Muslims to her family. But she is happy to raise hatred and fan the flames of violence in faraway places where innocent people can get killed.”

Think about that statement. Why should Americans give a flying crap about angering muslims? Sounds like “Oh, we don’t want to anger Hitler.”

Don’t we think it’s about time for Muslims to grow up, put on their big boy pants and joint the rest of the civilized world?

Her speech is protected by the constitution. No if, ands or buts.

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Comment by Selfish Hoarder
2015-05-09 14:45:38

Then I challenge you to post a cartoon contest and your address on social media. You should hold a rally at your house and be sure to inform all the media.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-09 15:48:43

“You should hold a rally at your house and be sure to inform all the media.”

Also post flyers announcing the event and featuring cartoons of The Prophet at local mosques.

 
 
 
Comment by Clubber Lang
2015-05-09 13:18:55

“What we have is a series of provocations against Muslims not only in the US but also throughout the West, funded and promoted by right-wing movements who believe the West is being sold out by pro-Muslim “appeasers” and whose devotion and loyalty to Israel borders on the fanatic.”

Total BS. Pam Geller, Robert Spencer and especially Geert Wilders are modern day Paul Reveres, get your heads out of the sand. Bush derangement/Iraq war syndrome has clouded your judgment.

Sharia is not compatible with western liberty and democracy, period.

Just like Communism etc., Hard sharia Islamic law will only work if the whole world abides. Exactly why Global Progressives and Marxists are Jihad Apologists.

We need to take the Australian approach, which is to demand that anyone…ANYONE immigrating to the United States has to assimilate into western culture or GTFO…No exceptions.

You are unknowingly enforcing Sharia in this country when you demonize those who DARE speak against the “prophet”.

Comment by Ben Jones
2015-05-09 15:02:03

‘Pam Geller, Robert Spencer and especially Geert Wilders are modern day Paul Reveres’

Yeah, and Lindsey Graham is the new George Washington.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/lindsey-graham-we-are-getting-creamed-with-non-white-voters/

Back OT:

‘The CDC notes that there were 7,638 deaths from HIV and 45 from syphilis, so you’re 452 times more likely to die from risky sexual behavior than terrorism.’

‘The National Safety Council reports that more than 6,000 Americans die a year from falls … most of them involve people falling off their roof or ladder trying to clean their gutters, put up Christmas lights and the like. That means that you’re 353 times more likely to fall to your death doing something idiotic than die in a terrorist attack.’

‘The agency in charge of workplace safety – the U.S. Occupational Safety and Health Administration – reports that 4,609 workers were killed on the job in 2011 within the U.S. homeland. In other words, you are 271 times more likely to die from a workplace accident than terrorism.’

‘The CDC notes that 3,177 people died of “nutritional deficiencies” in 2011, which means you are 187 times more likely to starve to death in American than be killed by terrorism.’

‘The 2011 Report on Terrorism from the National Counter Terrorism Center notes that Americans are just as likely to be “crushed to death by their televisions or furniture each year” as they are to be killed by terrorists.’

‘Statistics from the Centers for Disease Control show that Americans are 110 times more likely to die from contaminated food than terrorism.’

‘The Jewish Daily Forward noted last year that – even including the people killed in the Boston bombing – you are more likely to be killed by a toddler than a terrorist.’

‘John Mueller, a political scientist at Ohio State University, and Mark Stewart, a civil engineer and authority on risk assessment at University of Newcastle in Australia … contended, “a great deal of money appears to have been misspent and would have been far more productive—saved far more lives—if it had been expended in other ways.”

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-terrorism-statistics-every-american-needs-to-hear/5382818

You’re being played on this Muslim thing.

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Comment by Selfish Hoarder
2015-05-09 20:39:13

Thanks Ben, I reposted this on FB and got two “likes” from friends I did not expect to like the article.

 
 
 
Comment by Clubber Lang
2015-05-09 13:28:16

““The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam.””

- President Obama

WTF is that? What if he said “The future must not belong to those who slander the savior Jesus Christ”?

Does that statement not make your Atheist/Agnostic antenna go up? If not, why?

By the way, people who slander Jesus, Buddha, Vishnu and Moses are not marked for death…just saying.

 
 
Comment by Clubber Lang
2015-05-09 13:23:08

Everyone who disagrees with you is paid? I wish I was getting paid.

Nice Alinsky though, I have to give you credit.

 
 
Comment by azdude
2015-05-09 05:43:41

we need to keep rates low so the rich have more stock gains and can hire some broke @ss folks.

Comment by Combotechie
2015-05-09 05:59:13

“… and can hire some broke @ss folks.”

Cheap. Can hire some broke @ss folks cheap.

 
Comment by Bring Back the WPA
2015-05-09 07:27:08

… and the trickle down tooth fairy will put a twenty under my pillow.

 
Comment by GuillotineRenovator
2015-05-09 13:45:57

Is your equity line running out?

 
 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2015-05-09 06:09:06

Plano, TX List Prices Crater 21% YoY; Housing Inventory Explodes 130% As Housing Correction Resumes

http://www.movoto.com/plano-tx/market-trends/

 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2015-05-09 06:20:53

CraterRage Photo Of The Day

http://goo.gl/ue1RAO

Comment by rallying the base
2015-05-09 08:17:19

Pass the adult diapers, please

Comment by Housing Analyst
2015-05-09 08:19:16

I’ll trade you for a set of yoga pants and a bag of Cheetos. Both Jumbo-sized.

Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2015-05-09 08:45:34

Ewww!

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Comment by oxide
2015-05-09 09:54:44

Just for reference, you guys are probably referring to leggings. Yoga pants are more like sweatpants with wide leg openings. Leggings are the tight pants.

Capri-length leggings (cut off mid-calf), sloppy flip-flops, and a waist-length t-shirt is currently the standard uniform of the woman who needs to lose 50 pounds.

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Comment by palmetto
2015-05-09 11:17:10

Awesome, oxide. I call it the Humpty Dumpty uniform.

 
Comment by oxide
2015-05-09 17:46:48

Honestly I think it looks awful. I’m 9-10 pounds overweight at the moment and even I wouldn’t be caught dead in such an outfit. Now, there IS something to be said for wearing leggings, classy flat shoes and a TUNIC. A tunic is a long shirt — almost a short dress — which covers the bum. On someone thin it looks dancer-like, on someone not-so-thin, it’s a little more acceptable.

But IMO neither is acceptable in hot weather. Leggings are warm.

 
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Comment by rms
2015-05-09 20:13:57

“Leggings are the tight pants.”

Leggings done right usually have a flat crotch seam that yields a gentle camel toe outline when pulled up snug. My other half isn’t busty, but her flat tummy and 36-inch thigh-gap swimmer’s legs draw plenty of attention when we’re at an outdoor event despite the bevy of younger ladies.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-05-09 07:50:26

To the .1% who will toss Wall Street’s salad by voting for Hillary Clinton: here’s who you’re really voting for.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-08/nomi-prins-clintons-their-banker-friends

In the coming months, however many hours Clinton spends introducing herself to voters in small-town America, she will spend hundreds more raising money in four-star hotels and multimillion-dollar homes around the nation. The question is: “Can Clinton claim to stand for ‘everyday Americans,’ while hauling in huge sums of cash from the very wealthiest of us?” This much cannot be disputed: Clinton’s connections to the financiers and bankers of this country - and this country’s campaigns - run deep. As Nomi Prins questions, who counts more to such a candidate, the person you met over that chicken burrito bowl or the Citigroup partner you met over cruditĂŠs and caviar?

Comment by scdave
2015-05-09 08:25:36

“Can Clinton claim to stand for ‘everyday Americans,’ while hauling in huge sums of cash from the very wealthiest of us?” ??

The answer is yes….Because, you can’t bring a knife to a gun fight…Raise money to be able to fight the likes of Adleson or you loose…Want to get the likes of Adleson and others out of politics, tell it to the Supreme Court or get congress to pass a constitutional amendment…In the mean time, disparaging Clinton for raising cash to compete against the neocons seems odd or more likely just partisan attack…

Comment by Albuquerquedan
2015-05-09 08:31:30

Why would the wealthy be giving her so much, if they thought she would be acting against their interests?

Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-05-09 09:19:11

I meant, to members of the 99% who are voting for Hillary and thereby are giving the .1% free rein to screw them blind.

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Comment by butters
2015-05-09 09:47:26

She’s a neocon. Only the idiots see any difference between her and the neocons.

 
 
Comment by Bring Back the WPA
2015-05-09 08:31:37

Best argument for voting for Hillary: if you don’t want the Chamber of Commerce establishment GOP to control all three branches of government.

Comment by Albuquerquedan
2015-05-09 08:38:57

The Chamber of Commerce will have all three branches of government whether Hillary or Jeb win. not much of an argument.

Comment by Bring Back the WPA
2015-05-09 09:07:24

No, I think the “Hillary and Jeb are interchangeable” meme is overblown and too simplistic. Hillary appears to be following Bill’s pattern of being a Triangulator (remember that?), a “Third Way” follower that will try to balance the interests of both Big Money and the middle class/poor.

I see Jeb as similar to his brother, a big government conservative, i.e., borrow-and-spend.

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Comment by Albuquerquedan
2015-05-09 11:01:59

Bill’s triangulation was to pass NAFTA and give China full membership in WTO without any concern for human rights, exactly opposite the attacks on Bush I during his race for the Presidency. He also ignored the increasing illegal immigration and worked closely with the Federal Reserve to keep interest rates below natural levels. So how is that against the globalist/banksters agenda?

 
Comment by Bring Back the WPA
2015-05-09 11:28:50

It wasn’t. Bill did those things to help the globalists/banksters as you point out. He also did some things aligned with Democratic values, like raise taxes on the wealthy, increased student aid, implemented Family leave act, raised the minimum wage.

 
 
Comment by Mr. Banker
2015-05-09 09:26:05

“The Chamber of Commerce will have all three branches of government whether Hillary or Jeb win. not much of an argument.”

Yep.

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Comment by oxide
2015-05-09 09:56:59

Two branches maybe. The difference is in the third branch.

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Comment by rallying the base
2015-05-09 09:32:30

Reposting this for like the 4th time here, Wall Street “can’t lose” with Jeb/Hillary:

http://nypost.com/2015/02/08/wall-streets-no-lose-view-of-2016/

Comment by Selfish Hoarder
2015-05-09 14:49:50

Thank you. Only the blind partisans will say their candidate’s shite does not stink. Like that partisan in the thread above yours.

 
 
 
Comment by Bring Back the WPA
2015-05-09 08:34:56

Here come the Boomerang Buyers…

===

“Over the next few years, RealtyTrac says 114,000 people in the Bay Area who had been ineligible to buy a home [due to an earlier foreclosure or short sale] could be returning to the housing market. The first big wave of people will be hitting the market this year.

Concord [Calif.] residents Carlos and Maritza Balladares are excited about the prospects of having a place to call home again. They lost their house in a short sale several years ago. Now the mandatory waiting period of four to seven years has passed.

“I know there is a home for me out there. I know,” Maritza said.

The couple has already made offers on half a dozen homes. However, all of those have been rejected because many sellers are in favor of all-cash offers from San Francisco residents who sold homes and want to move to the East Bay. Low inventory and multiple offers are driving up prices.

Carlos and Maritza are preapproved for a $500,000 FHA loan.

http://abc7news.com/realestate/boomerang-buyers-jump-into-housing-market/708820/

Comment by Housing Analyst
2015-05-09 08:41:19

Why would they buy it when they’re already renting it for half the monthly cost?

Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2015-05-09 08:51:40

Pride of ownership!

(joke)

Speculation.

 
Comment by Blue Skye
2015-05-09 10:41:51

Wealth Generation!

It didn’t work the first time so try again.

 
 
Comment by rms
2015-05-09 17:31:15

“Carlos and Maritza are preapproved for a $500,000 FHA loan.”

‘Merica… what a country!

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-09 10:29:52

How much longer will the bond market crash play out before the MSM takes note?

Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-09 10:35:09

1:27 pm ET
May 7, 2015
Central Banking
It’s Bonds That Are Overvalued, Not Stocks. Here’s Why
Federal Reserve Chair Janet Yellen discusses market risks and other issues with International Monetary Fund Managing Director Christine Lagarde at the Institute for New Economic Thinking Conference on Finance and Society at the IMF in Washington.
JACQUELYN MARTIN/ASSOCIATED PRESS

Janet Yellen, the Federal Reserve chairwoman, shook up markets yesterday by noting that stock market valuations were “quite high.”

She also acknowledged stocks aren’t quite so pricey when compared to bonds. And that’s an important caveat, because it’s bonds, not stocks, whose valuations are extreme; so extreme they make stocks positively cheap.

The two are very much connected. Bonds are expensive for the same reason stocks are cheap: the world is still afraid of disaster. And that holds important lessons for both the investors, and the Fed.

Stocks are expensive, based on the most common valuation metric: Standard & Poor’s 500-stock index trades at 17.5 times last year’s earnings, well above the 10-year average of 15.8. But that’s not the best metric of stock valuation; a better one is to ask how much stocks are likely to return over the next decade or so compared to bonds.

Stocks are supposed to return more than bonds because they’re riskier; they can be waylaid by a recession or a bear market. The magnitude of that extra return, called the “equity risk premium,” can be inferred from current bond yields and expected growth in profits and dividends.

Analysts have different measures of the equity risk premium, but most conclude it is either around or above normal. For example, Goldman Sachs global investment research group puts it at 4.5% right now, well above the 3% range of a decade ago.

This means an investor choosing between the two asset classes today could expect to earn 4.5 percentage points more on stocks than bonds over the next 10 to 20 years.

Stocks look cheap on this metric because bond yields are so low—lower than fundamentals can explain. For example, in theory, the return on a 10-year bond should be roughly equal to the return on holding Treasury bills for 10 years, plus a bit extra, which is called the term premium.

The term premium compensates investors for the fact that bonds are much more volatile than T-bills, largely because investors may guess wrong on the path of short-term rates. For 10-year bonds it has averaged 1.6 percentage points since 1961, according to estimates by staff of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.

With inflation low, the economy operating below capacity, and the Federal Reserve promising to tighten monetary policy ever so slowly, Treasury bills aren’t going to return much for a while. Yet even after taking that into account, bond yields are strangely low, because the term premium is close to zero. Indeed, until a a few weeks ago it was negative. In other words, investors were actually paying up to own bonds rather than Treasury bills, which is not the way the world is supposed to work.

What can explain the fact that investors are wary of the risk in owning stocks but so cavalier about bonds? It comes down to the threats that hang over the world economy. As Kenneth Rogoff of Harvard University has argued, bonds do more than protect your portfolio against garden-variety recessions and bear markets. They also act as insurance policy against black swan-type disasters.

If another financial crisis or deflation sucked the rich economies down, China fell into a slump, a big European government defaulted, a war broke out in eastern Europe, there was a 9/11-type terrorist attack or a pandemic swept the world, stocks would crater and terrified investors would rush for the security of bonds, driving their prices up and their yields down.

The recent roller-coaster on bond yields is probably due not just to changing perceptions of what the Fed or European Central Bank will do, but fluctuating fears of disaster. Central banks should actually take comfort, then, if bond yields are headed up, because less fear of disaster means more confidence, more spending and more investment. The fact that bonds act as valuable insurance policies also means central banks and regulators should avoid creating artificial shortages of them.

What’s the lesson for investors? If fear of disaster suddenly fades, yields will shoot up and prices will plunge. For stocks, it’s more complicated. Higher bond yields will squeeze the equity risk premium and thus make them less attractive over the next decade. On the other hand, a reduced fear of disaster should coincide with greater confidence in economic growth and profits and a greater appetite for holding stocks.

Comment by Blue Skye
2015-05-09 10:46:24

” If fear of disaster suddenly fades, yields [on bonds] will shoot up…”

You might be an idiot.

Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-09 11:05:09

Life’s but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more: it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.

– Shakespeare’s Macbeth

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Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-09 10:36:56

I suppose there have been a few recent articles that document the crash underway.

Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-09 12:04:10

Now that I have taken stock, it seems like there are quite a few articles documenting the crash underway.

But still, the MSM headlines would be screaming a similar development in stocks.

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-09 10:40:24

Markets
European Bonds Back to Pre-QE Levels After Weeklong Selloff
Levels back to where they were before stimulus began
By Christopher Whittall and Tommy Stubbington
Updated May 7, 2015 3:20 p.m. ET

A weeklong selloff in European bonds has wiped out much of the rally sparked by the vast stimulus program that the European Central Bank announced in January.

After five straight days of declines, European bonds accelerated their fall Thursday morning before returning roughly to where they had started the day. Yields rise as prices fall. The yield on 10-year German government bonds shot up to 0.78% before falling back to 0.60% late in the European afternoon, a level last seen in mid-December, according to Tradeweb.

“Right now the market is in a state of shock,” said Zoeb Sachee, head of European government-bond trading at Citigroup Inc. “A lot of people are staying clear, and that makes the market less liquid, which is helping to exaggerate market moves.”

As bonds have sold off, traders said some dealers intermittently stopped quoting prices on electronic platforms.

Activity was most frantic in futures markets. The volume of trading in futures on 10-year German government bonds, or bunds, was more than double the average for the past five years. German 10-year bonds are considered the eurozone’s safest debt, and like U.S. Treasurys, they are used as a benchmark for prices of other fixed-income assets.

At an auction Thursday, France paid its highest 10-year funding costs since November. During the session, yields on France’s 10-year bond hit 1.10%, before falling back to 0.90% late in the day. The equivalent Italian bond yield hit 2.03% and came back to 1.76%.

The ECB’s stimulus program—an effort to pump cash into the economy by buying eurozone bonds with huge amounts of newly created euros—had pushed prices of bonds to record highs in recent months.

Now, the moves have reversed so sharply that levels are back where they were before the stimulus was announced. In mid-April, bund yields hit a low of 0.05% as a result of the ECB program. In Spain, 10-year yields traded at 1.74% late Thursday, a level last seen in early January. The yield had dropped to a record 1.06% after the ECB began buying bonds in March.

“It’s as though QE disappeared—it didn’t exist,” said Franck Dixmier, chief investment officer for European fixed income at Allianz Global Investors, which oversees €197 billion ($224 billion) of fixed-income assets. “In one week we had a total unwinding of all QE-related trades.”

Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2015-05-09 11:57:48

“In one week we had a total unwinding of all QE-related trades.”

Umm, no—the ECB is still holding a cr@p-ton of bonds. Imagine what would happen if they were to sell their holdings as well.

Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-09 12:01:15

Correct me if I am wrong, but I don’t believe central banks have to ever sell their holdings. I.e. they can keep toxic waste assets buried on their balance sheets forever.

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Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2015-05-09 12:58:33

but I don’t believe central banks have to ever sell their holdings.

Oh, don’t get me wrong—I wasn’t proposing that they _would_ ever sell. Merely pointing out that the quote was full of BS; the trades have NOT unwound, and they most likely never will. But the quote bemoans the state of the market as if the effect is fully gone. There must still be an effect, as the ECB still holds all of the bonds that it purchased. A _real_ unwind would be epic. But I concur: it will never happen. I fully expect them to bury those QE assets until they mature.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-09 13:40:00

“I fully expect them to bury those QE assets until they mature.”

I also expect them to make misleading statements in the MSM to convince markets that they will eventually unwind permanent positions in toxic assets.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-09 10:44:58

Why does the MSM scream bloody murder if stocks crash, but sleeps right through a bond market crash?

Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-09 10:48:29

Money & Markets
Bonds are quietly crashing around the world
Greg McKenna
May 7 2015, 2:39 AM 233
Waves crashing at ocean pool. Photo: Getty Images

It has taken a month for global stock markets to notice, but there has been a slow motion train wreck in sovereign bond markets over the past month which has the potential to cause a lot of problems.

NAB Senior credit analyst Simon Fletcher wrote in a note to clients this morning:

The collapse has finally happened after a few weeks of wondering, self-doubt and then a blasĂŠ attitude that the rest of Europe could survive a Greek default, concerns escalated and led to a widespread selloff in both sovereigns and company credit.

That’s part of the reason that rates are selling off and also explains why stocks around the world are under pressure.

Fletcher’s colleague, NAB currency strategist Emma Lawson, told Business Insider the move in bonds and equities is also being fuelled by “higher oil prices, improved economic outlook, repricing from more easing to a more neutral cycle and periphery yields higher on Greece worries.”

That means that US 2-year rates have risen from 0.46 less than a month ago to 0.62% this morning. That may be only 16 points but its a huge capital loss to the holders of those bonds. US 10’s are up from 1.80% a month ago and 1.64% in February to last night close of 2.18%.

Likewise, even with the ECB buying up every bond it can get its hands on, German 10-year Bunds have backed up from a low of 0.049% 3 weeks ago to an incredible – in terms of impact on capital value – 0.51% overnight.

Even in Australia where the RBA has cut rates twice to a cash rate of 2% 2-year and 10-year bonds have been backing up. 10-year Australian government bonds are up from 2.23% in March to 2.95% today. The 2 year rate, where the RBA rate cutting rubber hits the road, has moved from 1.95% when the RBA eased in February, to a low of 1.64% in April, to today’s level of 2.11%.

The collapse in bond prices which has accompanied the rise in rates (prices being the inverse of rates) will have cost bond holders, investors, and traders a lot of money.

That’s got many traders worried because generally, almost always, it is interest rate/bond/credit markets which blow up other markets. Think about the Latin American Bond crisis, the 1987 crash, which I’d argue may have its genesis at the Bundesbank, the 1994 bond blow-up, the LTCM crisis, Asian crisis, and the first Russian crisis in the late 1990’s. Then of course we had the GFC, the bond market bubble to beat all bond market bubbles.

The worry is in 2015 after years of zero interest rates, quantitative easing and low inflation, the recent recovery in commodities, Fed re-affirmation it plans to raise rates in 2015 and the increase in US wages, and associated tightness in the labour market, have materially changed the outlook for interest rates, and markets.

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-09 10:57:31

Markets
Bill Gross’s Fund Takes Hit Amid Bond Selloff
Large losses in latest week at famed money manager’s bond fund undercut a nascent comeback
WSJ’s Kisten Grind joins MoneyBeat and details significant losses suffered by Bill Gross’s Janus Capital Group fund amid a selloff in corporate and government bonds. Photo: Getty
By Gregory Zuckerman and Kirsten Grind
Updated May 6, 2015 7:27 p.m. ET

Bill Gross’s fledgling bond fund at Janus Capital Group Inc. suffered large losses over the past week, undercutting a nascent comeback for the famed money manager who has yet to attract investors en masse at his new firm.

The cause of the fund’s troubles hasn’t been disclosed. But the 2.7% decline at the Janus Global Unconstrained Bond Fund in the week ended Tuesday comes amid a nine-week-long selloff for government and corporate bonds that has inflicted pain on investors around the globe.

As of March 31, the latest date Janus detailed holdings for the fund, his largest holding was a wager against German bonds, which have been falling in price, a move that would benefit the fund. Two of the largest four holdings in Mr. Gross’s fund were bets on U.S. Treasurys, whose prices also have been falling after a long run-up. The fund’s portfolio construction is complex, and it is unclear if Mr. Gross took any steps to shield against losses from any Treasury positions.

Mr. Gross also owned large amounts of emerging-market bonds, including debt from Brazil, the fund’s third-largest holding as of that date. Emerging-market debt prices have fallen lately, though not as much as U.S. or German bonds. At the time, over 31% of Mr. Gross’s fund was in U.S. investment-grade-rated corporate debt, a sector that has dropped in value in recent weeks.

“The core of the fund remains corporate bonds,” Janus told investors in a letter at the end of last quarter. It added that the fund also was wagering against volatility in the bond, stock and currency markets, something that may have weighed on returns lately.

A Janus spokeswoman declined to comment on the cause of the decline. Mr. Gross declined to comment through the spokeswoman. The latest holdings of his fund will be released at the end of the second quarter.

Until recently, Mr. Gross seemed on the comeback trail. After poor returns and a public fallout with colleagues at his former firm, Pacific Investment Management Co., Mr. Gross left in September to take over a new fund at Janus.

For much of this year, Mr. Gross was on a roll, beating three-quarters of the fund’s peers.

But the recent reversal put his bond fund at the bottom of its fund-industry category, trailing 99% of similar funds. During the same seven-day period, similar bond funds gained an average of 0.01%, according to Morningstar Inc.

Through Tuesday, the fund was down 0.09% in 2015, compared with a gain of 0.09% for its benchmark index, the three-month dollar London interbank offered rate.

The sharp one-week drop is rare for a bond fund, said analysts, even one that falls in the “unconstrained” category, allowing it to be more aggressive than some others.

“Bond funds aren’t supposed to lose money,” said Todd Rosenbluth, director of mutual fund and exchange-traded-fund research at S&P Capital IQ.

The price of the 10-year U.S. Treasury note dropped 1.8% last week, pushing the yield up to 2.12% from 1.92%. On Wednesday, the note traded at 2.23%. Bond yields move inversely to prices.

The bond-market selloff has been “dramatic,” said Michael Novogratz, president of hedge-fund firm Fortress Investment Group LLC, who spoke at the SALT hedge-fund conference in Las Vegas on Wednesday and warned of more pain for debt markets.

There are 13 comments.

Andrew Wilt
3 days ago
Doesn’t Mr. Gross have enough money to buy an island somewhere and retire in luxury?

Ron Peterman
3 days ago
Bill, what you experience we call it, QE (I guess it will be QE1 for JANUS… more to come). Good choice taking advise from your new consultant.

RONALD WONG
3 days ago
Mr. Gross is more concerned with his personal success then the success of his investors. When PIMCO called him on performance he trashed them and fled costing investors millions.

Greg San
2 days ago
@RONALD WONG
Not really, the pimco fund is top 10% of performers since he left. You only lost money if you cashed out and moved your money.

Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-09 11:58:21

Wall Street’s Best Minds
Bill Gross on the Death of 35-Year Bull Market
The unusually gloomy Janus manager meditates on life in a time of fading investment returns.
By William H. Gross
May 4, 2015

Having turned the corner on my 70th year, like prize winning author Julian Barnes, I have a sense of an ending. Death frightens me and causes what Barnes calls great unrest, but for me it is not death but the dying that does so.

After all, we each fade into unconsciousness every night, do we not? Where was “I” between 9 and 5 last night? Nowhere that I can remember, with the exception of my infrequent dreams. Where was “I” for the 13 billion years following the Big Bang? I can’t remember, but assume it will be the same after I depart – going back to where I came from, unknown, unremembered, and unconscious after billions of future eons. I’ll miss though, not knowing what becomes of “you” and humanity’s torturous path – how it will all turn out in the end. I’ll miss that sense of an ending, but it seems more of an uneasiness, not a great unrest. What I fear most is the dying – the “Tuesdays with Morrie” that for Morrie became unbearable each and every day in our modern world of medicine and extended living; the suffering that accompanied him and will accompany most of us along that downward sloping glide path filled with cancer, stroke, and associated surgeries which make life less bearable than it was a day, a month, a decade before.

Turning 70 is something that all of us should hope to do but fear at the same time. At 70, parents have died long ago, but now siblings, best friends, even contemporary celebrities and sports heroes pass away, serving as a reminder that any day you could be next.

A 70-year-old reads the obituaries with a self-awareness as opposed to an item of interest. Some point out that this heightened intensity should make the moment all the more precious and therein lies the challenge: make it so; make it precious; savor what you have done – family, career, giving back – the “accumulation” that Julian Barnes speaks to. Nevertheless, the “responsibility” for a life’s work grows heavier as we age and the “unrest” less restful by the year. All too soon for each of us, there will be “great unrest” and a journey’s ending from which we came and to where we are going.

Comment by rms
2015-05-09 21:17:23

“The unusually gloomy Janus manager meditates on life in a time of fading investment returns.”

Gross should celebrate that his timing was good, very good actually. He didn’t get killed in Vietnam, and he was at the leading edge of the baby boom generation who largely enjoyed unfettered gains in assets and debt investments. Medical advances have been nothing short of spectacular and well within his reach. Bottom line, it’s time for him to move over and let the younger people enjoy life.

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Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-09 11:11:40

One thing seems entirely clear: With bond yields at or near historically low zero or negative levels around the world, there is a vanishingly small pool of investors who have a clue of how to navigate this treacherous investing landscape.

Caution: LANDMINES AHEAD!

Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-09 11:12:41

The Buzz
Is the bond bubble finally bursting?
By Paul R. La Monica @lamonicabuzz
Bond yields have soared in the U.S.. Germany, France, Spain and Italy. Is the bond bubble finally bursting?

So much for bonds being safe.

Investors have fled U.S. and European bonds over the past few days. Is this the end of a great rally for bonds … the bursting of a bubble?

It’s too soon to say. But the yield on the 10-Year U.S. Treasury was around 1.92% at the beginning of last week. It’s now at about 2.21%. Rates go up as investors sell.

That might not sound like a huge move, but it is massive in the often sleepy world of fixed income. And it will mean big losses for anyone that has money in bonds — which many average investors do.

As bad as it’s been in the U.S., Europe is worse.

German bund yields have gone from 0.16% to around 0.65% since the start of last week. The yield on French bonds went from 0.4% to nearly 1%. Spanish and Italian bond yields shot up from around 1.3% to just under 2%.

Of course, rates are still relatively low by historical standards. But these yields are now near their highest levels of the year. The trend is what is spooking the market — and how fast it’s changing.

What it means: According to a report from Bloomberg, the value of the worldwide bond market has plunged more than $430 billion since yields began to soar last week.

What the heck is going on? At first glance, it doesn’t make sense.

The European Central Bank is now buying bonds, a policy dubbed “quantitative easing,” in an attempt to keep rates low.

While the Federal Reserve stopped its own QE program last year and is expected to raise interest rates later this year, most investors think the rate hike will be small.

But experts said that diminishing concerns about deflation in Europe have pulled bond yields from their lows. Consumer prices were flat last month, following four months of falling prices.

One reason investors had been buying bonds — and in some cases even accepting negative yields — was the fear that asset prices would keep falling. In that scary scenario, small losses were viewed as tolerable.

So it’s only natural for European bond yields to start rising again. They simply couldn’t go down much more.

“Central banks have held yields down for such a long time,” said Tom Clarke, a manager of the William Blair Macro Allocation Fund in London.

There also is evidence that the eurozone economy is getting better. The ECB actions might actually be helping.

Leah Bennett, co-chief investment officer of investment firm South Texas Money Management, noted that bank lending to small businesses increased in the first quarter.

And she pointed out that exports in Europe, particularly Germany, have surged thanks to how weak the euro has gotten this year.

With that in mind, bond yields should go up. That’s what they usually do when an economy is gaining strength.

Deflation worries ebbing: Now why has this lifted yields in the U.S. as well?

Developed market bond yields often move in tandem, said Ashraf Laidi, chief global strategist at City Index in London. The U.S. and Europe are typically lumped in together as safe havens for investors.

The rebound in oil prices is also helping push bond yields higher, Laidi added. Crude recently shot above $60 a barrel and is now near its highest levels of the year.

“This is all about a reduction in global deflation fears,” Laidi said.

That’s great news for the global economy. But it could mean a lot more pain for bond investors if yields shoot higher.

Mike O’Rourke, chief market strategist with JonesTrading, wrote in a recent note that there is still “asset price distortion” in the market. So a move in bonds could be as “seismic” as what happened to oil last year and early this year.

“The moves have the potential to be violent,” he wrote.

But William Blair’s Clarke isn’t so sure rates will shoot that much higher. Bond yields usually spike when people are worried about inflation. There’s a big difference between deflation worries ending and actual inflation coming.

“There is no huge risk in a sudden rise in inflation expectations,” he said. “Inflation is still the dog that didn’t bark.”

Comment by Mr. Banker
2015-05-09 16:11:36

“What the heck is going on? At first glance, it doesn’t make sense.”

So, take another glance.

I did, and it still doesn’t make sense.

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Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-09 11:16:31

Wonkblog
The mystery of Germany’s crazy bonds
By Matt O’Brien
May 8, 2015
Source: Bloomberg

Germany’s borrowing costs have shot up from nothing to slightly more than that in violent fashion, and it’s either a sign that Europe’s economy is finally beginning to recover or that the European Central Bank’s efforts to do so are coming up short. It’s not clear which.

Just a few weeks ago, it looked like it would only be a matter of time until investors were paying for the privilege of lending to Germany for 10 years. In other words, that Germany’s 10-year bond yield would slip from its low of 0.05 percent and into negative territory. Since then, though, it rocketed up to as much as 0.78 percent on Thursday, before falling back a bit to 0.59 percent later in the day. That’s a massive one-day swing, given that bond yields usually only move a couple of hundredths of a percentage point on any given day.

Still, it’s worth keeping a little perspective here. These aren’t through-the-looking-glass borrowing costs, but they’re at least pushing up against the looking glass — by any historical standard, they’re still crazily low. That said, it is disconcerting how quickly Germany’s bonds have sold off — bond prices go down when yields go up — and Europe’s stocks have, too. This has narrowed the gap between interest rates in the United States and Europe, which has made holding money in euros more attractive — and, in turn, pushed the euro back up.

What’s going on? Well, Europe’s bond yields were lower than ours to begin with because of their lower growth and lower inflation. But then in January, with inflation falling into negative territory, the ECB announced that it would start buying bonds with newly-printed money — aka quantitative easing — to try to jumpstart its economy. This, as you can see above, sent bond yields on what seemed like an inexorable journey to zero and below. Indeed, as much as $1.9 trillion worth of euro zone debt had negative yields by February. Investors were betting that they could buy bonds at near-to-subzero yields and then sell them back to the ECB a few months later for an easy profit. Now, the ECB clarified that it wouldn’t buy bonds yielding less than -0.2 percent, which set a little bit of a ceiling on how low borrowing costs could go, but still left plenty of room for them to set records for all-time lows. And they did.

At least until now. It’s hard to tell what’s going on, though, because it’s hard to tell what QE does to borrowing costs. The simple story is that buying bonds should push their prices up, and, as a result, their yields down. But the problem is things aren’t that simple, because QE also makes markets expect more growth and inflation — which go the other way and push bond yields up. That’s why, as I’ve pointed out before, interest rates actually rose every time the Federal Reserve started buying bonds and fell every time it stopped. But, again, the problem is things aren’t even as simple as that. Just look at Japan. It also started buying bonds, and also saw interest rates start to rise when it did, until its central bank chief said that they shouldn’t rise — and then they didn’t. In other words, even though higher borrowing costs are usually a sign that QE is working, it isn’t always the case.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-09 11:18:34

The bear market in bonds has arrived
Head of U.S. Treasury strategies at RBS Securities says march to higher rates has begun
May 9, 2015 @ 6:06 am
By Bloomberg News

A bear market in Treasuries is under way, even after a late-week rebound, according to Royal Bank of Scotland Group Plc.

“What we’ve seen in recent weeks is not a blip, it’s the beginning of higher rates,” said William O’Donnell, head of U.S. Treasury strategy at RBS Securities in Stamford, Conn. “Everything unraveled all at once. What we’ve had is the first of a series of bouts of bond-market vertigo.”

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-09 11:22:36

Investing: Time for a no-bond portfolio?
John Waggoner, USA TODAY 11:37 a.m. EDT May 8, 2015

Living in the modern world means living with a constant feeling of impending doom. You could lose your job! The market could crash! Your dog could be an alien!

In recent weeks, the biggest fear of the day has been that interest rates would rise, clobbering bond funds and ruining the plans of Joe Btfsplk, the only person in the United States who hasn’t refinanced his mortgage in the past seven years.

And those fears have some merit. The bellwether 10-year Treasury note yield is hovering near 2.20%, up from the low of 1.40% set in July 2012. And even at current levels, it could be a long, painful rise to the average long-term yield of 6.44%. So perhaps it’s time to consider a no-bond portfolio.

Let’s start at the beginning. In recent weeks, several prominent investors — Warren Buffett, CEO of Berkshire Hathaway, and Bill Gross, manager of Janus Unconstrained Bond, Jeremy Grantham of GMO — have warned that the long bull market in bonds could be at an end.

The bull market is, after all, more than three decades old. In the upside-down world of bonds, a bull market is a sustained period of falling interest rates. (More on this in a moment.) Interest rates have been falling since Sept. 30, 1981, when the 10-year note yielded an astonishing 15.84%.

Falling rates mean rising prices for bonds. Think of it this way: Suppose you owned a bond that paid 5% annual interest. Investors who owned bonds yielding 2.25% would treat you like a god. They would wax your car to a high gloss. They would even pay you more than the face value of your bond, because your yield was more than twice what they could currently get.

Could Treasury yields go lower? Sure, and they have. And government bond yields overseas are somewhere in the third sub-basement parking lot. The 10-year German bund yields 0.59%, and the Swiss 10-year note yields 0.10%.

Nevertheless, you should be aware that at least a partial unwinding of the bond bull market is likely. When rates rise, investors make videos of your 2.20% bond and mock it on the Internet — because, after all, newly issued bonds yield more. Should you want to sell your bond, you’ll have to cut the price, and your 2.20% yield will provide little cushion.

If you own individual bonds, a bond bear market isn’t much of an issue, unless you sell before your bond matures. If you hold your bond to maturity — barring a default — you’ll get your interest and principal back. But bond mutual funds have to price their holdings every day. And for most bond funds, rising rates mean lower share prices.

Bond bear markets tend to be less severe than bear markets in stocks, but they make up for that by lasting a long time. It’s a bit like being attacked by box turtles.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-09 11:37:28

Keep the faith, sheeple! Bonds always go up, in the long run…

Ahead: Retire Your Way
Don’t give in to bond market hysteria
By Walter Updegrave @CNNMoney

I know bonds will take a hit when interest rates rise, but don’t know what to do about that — go to short maturities, intermediate, get out of bonds? I’m confused. What do you think?

–Dave C.

The first thing you need to understand about bonds is that nobody knows for certain what bonds will do. Yes, I know that everyone “knows” that interest rates will rise from their current depressed levels and that bonds will lose value when they do. Some people also seem to be convinced that when the Federal Reserve acts to nudge rates upward, short-term yields will climb more than long-term, which could mean that short-term bonds will get hit harder than ones with longer maturities, which is the opposite of what usually happens when rates rise.

Pundits and various other bond gurus have been predicting that rising rates would inevitably wreak Armageddon in the bond market for some five years now and it hasn’t happened. The broad bond market has sagged occasionally — it lost 4.5% over the course of four months in 2013 — but it recovered nicely and has largely defied doomsayers’ prognostications, returning an annualized 4.4% the past five years.

As for trying to predict how bonds of different maturities might perform relative to one another when rates eventually rise, I think a paper titled “Reducing Bonds? Proceed With Caution” that Vanguard published in 2013 sums it up nicely: “Interest rate movements tend to follow a ‘random walk’ and to be driven by ‘new’ economic events, thus making interest rate predictions little more than guesswork.” Or to put it another way: Trying to outguess or time the bond market makes about as much sense as trying to outsmart the stock market — none.

So, if you’re concerned about bonds, what should you do?

For starters, you should step back a moment and think about why bonds should be part of a long-term investing strategy in the first place. Basically, they provide two things: income and ballast.

There’s no doubt they’re falling short on the income front these days what with two-year, five-year and 10-year Treasuries recently yielding a bit over 0.5%, 1.3% and 1.9%, respectively, with investment-grade corporates paying a bit more. But there’s not much you can do about that. You can stretch for more yield by moving into longer-term or lower-quality bonds, but you’ll be taking more risk too. One way or another you have to adjust your expectations to the realities of today’s market

As for insulating your portfolio from market setbacks, bonds at today’s lower yields may not provide quite as much protection as they have historically, but they should still do a good job of stabilizing your portfolio when stock prices head south.

For all the hysteria about bonds’ taking a hit when rates start to climb (whenever that may be), it’s important to remember that bonds have never come close to the 50%-or-more declines the stock market has weathered. In the U.S. investment-grade bond world, a loss of even 10% over 12 months would be rare. And while bonds and bond funds will take a hit when interest rates rise, investors who own a diversified fund of high-quality bonds will later see their returns rise as the fund re-invests interest payments in new bonds paying higher rates.

Given all this, I suggest that anyone investing for retirement and other long-term goals start with a broadly diversified portfolio of short- to intermediate-term investment-grade bonds. A total U.S. bond market index fund or ETF — which owns a mix of Treasury, government agency, mortgage-backed and high-quality corporate bonds — would do very nicely as a core holding.

If you feel you need a bit more protection against rising rates, you can put a portion of your bond stash into a short-term investment-grade bond fund. Again, I’d go with a short-term bond index fund or ETF. The more worried you are, the more you can invest in the short-term fund, although be aware that the more you favor short-term bonds, the more return you’ll likely be giving up over the long run.

Comment by Mr. Banker
2015-05-09 15:56:33

“Pundits and various other bond gurus have been predicting that rising rates would inevitably wreak Armageddon in the bond market for some five years now and it hasn’t happened.”

But nevertheless these people are still considered to be pundits and gurus.

I especially like the idea of these pundits and gurus collecting hefty fees at the same time they were being consistently wrong.

Bahahahahaha … what’s that saying? You get what you pay for?

Maybe their fees should be raised.

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-09 11:39:32

Is This The Big One In Treasury Bonds?
By Dragonfly Capital (Gregory W. Harmon)
Bonds
May 07, 2015 11:22AM GMT

Bond prices have been falling for 7 days in a row. Yields are now knocking at 3% for the first time since December, when they were still falling. The yield has crossed its 200-day SMA for the first time since March 2014. All of this has many asking, like Fred Sanford, if this is the big one.

And it could be. But there are many signs that perhaps yields may pullback, at least for a short time first. The clues are in the chart below.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-09 11:42:04

CNBC
Fed could lose control of bond yields: Boockvar
Tom DiChristopher
Thursday, 7 May 2015 | 7:38 AM
ETCNBC dot com

The Federal Reserve runs the risk of losing the control of bond yields as it prepares to raise interest rates later this year, analyst Peter Boockvar said Thursday.

“That’s maybe why we’re seeing some of the steepening—because the bond market could be sniffing out the bottoming of these inflation numbers and they think [Fed Chair Janet] Yellen is going to drag her feet in raising rates to respond to that, so the long end of the curve is going to tighten for her,” the Lindsey Group’s chief market analyst said on CNBC’s “Squawk Box.”

U.S. Treasurys fell on Wednesday, weighed down by a global slide in government bond markets that is pushing yields to 2015 peaks. Benchmark 10-year Treasury note yields edge closer to 2.3 percent on Thursday, trading around 2.275 percent before easing back to 2.237 percent.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-09 11:49:30

US Markets
Bonds are the scariest thing out there: Bessemer CIO

Tom DiChristopher
Tuesday, 5 May 2015 | 9:02 AM ETCNBC.com

The yield on 10-year Treasurys may be heading for a larger-than-expected move that could disrupt stock markets, Bessemer Trust’s chief investment officer said Tuesday.

I think bonds are the scariest thing out there right now,” Rebecca Patterson said on CNBC’s “Squawk Box.”

Patterson said she is concerned because consensus has aligned to a great degree around the idea that bond yields will only move slightly higher by the end of 2015. The U.S. 10-year Treasury is currently yielding about 2.1 percent, and the Street expects the yield to rise only to about 2.5 percent, she said.

It doesn’t mean great minds are all wrong, but usually when you have consensus view this widely held, it’s wrong. So bond yields I think have a very real chance of either being quite a bit higher,” or falling, contrary to expectations of a mild rise, she said.

Investors must be wary, because if bond prices correct as the U.S. economy gains some momentum, a period of volatility for equities could ensue, at least in the short term, she said.

The Federal Reserve is widely expected to raise its benchmark interest rate by 25 to 50 basis points. While that increase is not significant, some market watchers have said bond yields could spike suddenly as investors anticipate the path of future rate hikes.

Patterson also said 2015 is shaping up to be the year of “revenge of the global investor.”

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-09 11:54:14

Investors flee US stocks at financial-crisis levels
Alex Rosenberg | @CNBCAlex
Tuesday, 5 May 2015 | 6:00 AM
ETCNBC.com

Many investors appeared to ditch American stock funds in April, in the biggest exodus since the financial crisis. But far from taking that as a bad sign, some investors view the news as an indication that stocks have more room to run.

In April, U.S. equity mutual funds and ETFs saw outflows of $35.8 billion, according to TrimTabs. That’s the biggest move away from American stocks since October 2008. And the bearish tone is confirmed by the flows in the leveraged ETF space, where leveraged short ETFs saw an increase in assets of 4.6 percent, while leveraged long ETFs saw assets dip by 2.5 percent.

While flows information is by nature backward-looking and thus a poor trading catalyst, this bearish tone does stand in stark contrast to recent warnings that stocks are in an exuberant or bubbly condition.

Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-09 13:14:35

“In April, U.S. equity mutual funds and ETFs saw outflows of $35.8 billion, according to TrimTabs. That’s the biggest move away from American stocks since October 2008. And the bearish tone is confirmed by the flows in the leveraged ETF space, where leveraged short ETFs saw an increase in assets of 4.6 percent, while leveraged long ETFs saw assets dip by 2.5 percent.”

To my recollection, stocks dropped by about fifty percent between October 2008 and the end of March 2009, when QE1 came to the rescue. And now QE is no more.

But no worries, because this time is different. LOL!

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-09 13:52:58

“…this bearish tone does stand in stark contrast to recent warnings that stocks are in an exuberant or bubbly condition.”

Actually the massive recent fund outflows are perfectly consistent with a stock market that has reached a permanently high plateau.

Read This, Spike That
Should Record Margin Debt Scare Investors?
Pundits disagree on whether rising borrowing against portfolios is a sign of a dangerous bubble.
By John Kimelman
May 6, 2015

I suspect that few stock investors are familiar with an obscure New York Stock Exchange Website with the innocuous Web address of NYXdata.com.

Right now, a data point for “margin debt,” the money that investors are borrowing against the value of their investment portfolios, is flashing red for some.

The NYSE margin debt level for March, the latest reporting period, has hit a record of more than $476.3 billion. In March 2009, at the beginning of the current bull market, the level of margin debt was about $182 billion.

Margin debt has long been viewed by some as a sentiment indicator of risk taking. So the thinking goes that higher levels of borrowing against portfolios can only mean that investors are getting too exuberant.

Writing on his blog Wednesday, money manager Jesse Felder contends that this statistic and its implications should make any investor worried about the state of the stock market.

Referring to several market pundits who feel there is little to worry about regarding rising margin debt levels, Felder writes, “To me, this sounds like just another version of, ‘it’s different this time.’ ”

Felder writes that over the past 20 years, the level of margin debt relative to the economy has had nearly an 80% negative correlation to future three-year returns in the stock market.

“What this means is, the higher the level of margin debt relative to GDP, the lower the returns for the stock market over the coming 3 years and vice versa,” he adds.

So what is the current level of margin debt suggesting for the next three years in stocks?

Says Felder “Considering that margin debt-to-GDP is near an all-time record high, it forecasts returns over the coming 3 years could very well be as bad as any bear market we have witnessed over the past 20 years.”

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-09 14:03:41

Race to lever up to the hilt before interest rate liftoff continues…

Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-09 14:04:57

Markets Stocks Abreast of the Market
U.S. Firms Shoulder Rising Debt
Companies and consumers are borrowing big, but stock and bond bulls point to data suggesting the burden is manageable
The New York Stock Exchange building on March 11. Stock-market margin debt hit $476.4 billion in March, the highest level in records going back more than 50 years, according to the NYSE.
Photo: JEWEL SAMAD/AFP/Getty Images
By Mike Cherney and Dan Strumpf
May 3, 2015 5:38 p.m. ET

Companies and consumers are on a borrowing spree and, for now, are in a strong position to pay the money back.

U.S. corporate-debt issuance is running at its fastest clip ever in 2015 after three consecutive record years. Borrowing by investors against their stockbrokerage accounts has risen to fresh records. And household borrowing has picked up after plunging during the “Great Recession.”

But while many leverage indicators are rising, bullish stock and bond investors stress that many measures of broad economic health and income are rising as well.

The increased borrowing is a sign that companies and individuals are feeling more confident about taking risks as a strengthening economy makes the debt more manageable, according to experts who say that the level of indebtedness isn’t yet a cause of concern the way that it was before the financial crisis.

“I don’t think there are any, at this point, canaries in the coal mine,” said Jennifer Vail, head of fixed-income research at U.S. Bank Wealth Management, which oversees $128 billion. “Leverage has slowly ticked up, but you’ve got to expect that” in a low-rate environment.

Comment by Mr. Banker
2015-05-09 16:07:36

“Companies and consumers are on a borrowing spree and, for now …”

… for now …

“… are in a strong position to pay the money back.”

For now. But stay tuned.

(These people should never, never allow history to interfere with their thinking.)

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Comment by palmetto
2015-05-09 11:23:10

White Appreciation Day at a bar-b-que restaurant in Colorado. Owned by a first generation Mexican-American. Thanks, amigo! From the heart. I’ll sponsor a meal for someone.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/restaurant-gets-bomb-threats-white-appreciation-day-n356521

Comment by Bring Back the WPA
2015-05-09 11:52:46

The first White Appreciation Day happened back around 1845. A little California history: General Vallejo of Mexico was in charge of California territory. The Mexican government got word that Anglo settlers were coming in and squatting on land; they ordered Vallejo to drive out the invaders. Vallejo refused. Vallejo thought the Americans were putting the land to better use than Mexico ever would. Also, some Americans were marrying into Mexican families; Vallejo thought the whole gringo immigration deal was a good thing. Not long after a band of Americans staged a small revolt against Vallejo and declared California to be an independent country. That ended a few weeks later when the US Army arrived in declared NorCal to be a territory of the U.S.

So, yes, the first “open borders” policy was instituted by a rogue Mexican general who allowed uncontrolled by white illegals!

Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-09 13:42:39

No wonder they named a town after him! (Noted by a former Vallejo Symphony Orchestra member…)

Comment by Bring Back the WPA
2015-05-09 15:40:55

Vallejo was a great man. After the Mex-Am war Vallejo became an American and was elected to the first State Senate, where he helped draft the original state constitution. His home has been preserved (it’s a state park). I’ve toured it and found it interesting.

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Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-09 15:52:06

I’ve visited the home and even (hopefully legally!) picked a couple of prickly pears out of the garden to take home as souvenirs. (If state tax dollars pay for maintaining the grounds, then I know I paid for them…)

 
 
 
Comment by palmetto
2015-05-09 14:23:16

Hard lesson learned.

In the meantime, good will between citizens of whatever ethnic background isn’t a bad idea. This was a nice thing for the man to do. Bomb threats speaks to the hostility toward whites, although, as I’ve said, the main event is the animosity one group of whites has for another, using people of color as their shock troops. My guess is the bomb threats came from some palefaces, in much the same vein as the race hoaxes perpetrated on some college campuses.

Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-09 15:54:15

Just think of the uproar that would ensue if bomb threats materialized in the wake of a Black History Month (or similar Black Appreciation) type event. We’ve evolved from a society with an anti-black bias into a society with an anti-white bias over the span of one generation.

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Comment by Bring Back the WPA
2015-05-09 15:57:20

It was a nice gesture by the restaurant owner. It’s unfortunate he’s had to deal with the blowback, whereever it came from.

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Comment by Ethan in Northern VA
2015-05-09 11:27:00

http://www.salon.com/2015/04/30/i_secretly_lived_in_my_office_for_500_days/

“I secretly lived in my office for 500 days”

Mentions the rent prices as being a factor.

Comment by Housing Analyst
2015-05-09 11:55:38

Yet still less than half the cost of buying at current grossly inflated asking prices of resale housing.

Comment by azdude
2015-05-09 13:54:33

do u need a loan?

Comment by Housing Analyst
2015-05-09 15:30:49

Stick with the data Poet…

Danville, CA List Prices Dive 6% YoY; Inventory Billows 131% On Plunging Housing Demand

http://www.movoto.com/danville-ca/market-trends/

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Comment by azdude
2015-05-09 16:40:00

I need to take out another HELOC dude. Got some serious bills coming up this month. My wine rack is looking real bare. Gonna head down to napa and pick up my wine orders.

 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2015-05-09 16:50:13

You’re underwater Poet. Just like everyone else with a debt pledge.

 
Comment by azdude
2015-05-09 17:41:07

R u gonna live in your cabover camper another year to save money? I know your pinching pennies to get off the hamster wheel.

your not taking enough risk.

 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2015-05-09 18:25:01

Falling prices Poet…

Santa Clara, CA Sale Prices Crater 10% YoY; Housing Demand Hits 20 Year Low

http://www.zillow.com/santa-clara-ca/home-values/

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-09 13:57:44

China Stock Picker Beating 90% of Peers Says Rout Isn’t Over Yet
by Cindy Wang
8:30 PM PST
May 7, 2015
Mandy Chan, Head of China and HK Equities at HSBC Global Asset Management (HK). Source: HSBC via Bloomberg
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The worst isn’t over for Chinese stocks after the biggest three-day rout since June 2013, according to HSBC Global Asset Management.

China’s government will probably take further steps to curb the use of borrowed money for share investment after margin debt rose to a record, said Mandy Chan, whose $111 million HSBC China A-Share Fund topped 90 percent of peers tracked by Bloomberg in the past year with a 96 percent gain. Mid- and small-capitalization stocks are most vulnerable to declines, she said.

“Shares are experiencing a healthy correction and they may have more corrections to come amid policy risk,” Chan said in a Thursday interview in Taipei, adding she’s still bullish on yuan-denominated shares over the longer term. “They have risen a bit fast and the government may talk down margin activity.”

The benchmark Shanghai Composite Index is on track for the biggest weekly retreat since July 2010, paring its world-beating surge over the past 12 months to 107 percent. The China Securities Regulatory Commission has already banned some forms of financing for margin trades and China Business News reported Thursday that a state-backed lender to brokerages is advocating for further controls.

The outstanding balance of margin debt on the Shanghai Stock Exchange increased to a record 1.27 trillion yuan ($205 billion) on Thursday, while the number of Chinese stock accounts containing funds rose to an unprecedented 63.7 million in the week ended May 1.

 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2015-05-09 20:56:28

crater

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-09 23:48:11

HAMP

Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-09 23:50:36

Foreclosure Stories
HAMP leads to great loan mod
Sandusky Register
Apr 30, 2015
Ronnie’s story

HIT WITH FORECLOSURE

The first time we met with Ronnie, he had just been hit with a foreclosure complaint. He was about eight months behind on his $1,100 per month mortgage payments. The good news was that both he and his wife had obtained steady employment and were in a much better position to move forward in their lives than they were when they first started missing payments.

Unfortunately, they would never have reached the foreclosure stage had their mortgage servicer done what it was legally required to do and qualified them for HAMP (Home Affordable Modification Program) relief.

THE SAD TALE OF HAMP

Ronnie’s situation represents an all-too-frequent occurrence in the mortgage servicing industry these days: False HAMP Denial. In other words, he clearly qualified for mortgage relief under HAMP, but he was wrongly denied it.

In a microcosm, Ronnie’s case is an example of why the program is being phased out at the end of this year. When it was initiated in 2009 the federal government projected 8 million people would qualify for HAMP, but to date, only 1 million have. The reason is because mortgage servicers make more money on servicing loans which are in default.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-09 23:53:31

Cramdowns are coming.

Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-09 23:55:48

Developments
Real estate news and analysis from The Wall Street Journal
3:40 pm ET
May 8, 2015
Mortgage
Housing Regulator Extends Mortgage Modification Programs Through 2016
By Joe Light
CONNECT
Reuters

The director of the Federal Housing Finance Agency, which regulates mortgage-finance companies Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, on Friday said that the companies would extend for another year the deadline to participate in a pair of programs meant to help struggling borrowers.

FHFA Director Melvin Watt at a Greenlining Institute conference in Los Angeles said that Fannie and Freddie would participate in both the Home Affordable Modification Program (HAMP) and Home Affordable Refinance Program (HARP) through December 2016. Fannie and Freddie had been set to stop allowing modifications under the programs at the end of this year.

Mr. Watt also said that the FHFA wouldn’t extend Fannie’s and Freddie’s participation in HAMP again, and that he didn’t expect for there to be another extension of HARP after 2016.

HAMP and HARP were the centerpieces of the Obama administration’s response to the foreclosure crisis. HAMP seeks to reduce borrowers’ monthly payments by extending loan terms, lowering interest rates and, for some loans, lowering mortgage principal. HARP allows borrowers to refinance even if they owe more than their homes are worth.

U.S. Treasury Secretary Jacob Lew last summer announced the federal government would extend lenders’ eligibility to use HAMP through at least 2016, leading to the wide expectation that the FHFA would follow suit.

Mr. Watt last year went on a multi-city tour in cities that still had lots of underwater borrowers who could benefit from the HARP program. However, the pace of modifications through both HAMP and HARP has trailed off over the past few years as rising home prices have helped to reduce the number of underwater homeowners who could benefit.

In February, Fannie and Freddie refinanced 10,673 loans through HARP, bringing the total since the program’s start to nearly 3.3 million. In February 2014, Fannie and Freddie refinanced 26,964 mortgages through the program.

In prepared remarks, Mr. Watt said HAMP and HARP, “have provided critically important relief for many borrowers by allowing them to lower their monthly payments and, as a result, have prevented many foreclosures.”

In the summer of 2012, former FHFA Director Edward DeMarco made the critical decision not to allow Fannie and Freddie to permanently reduce mortgage balances through the HAMP program, citing risks to the companies and taxpayers.

Mr. Watt in the last few months has said that the agency was examining the contours of a potential principal reduction program that would reduce the mortgage balances for what he described as a very limited group of borrowers.

 
 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-10 00:07:07

Does anyone besides myself find it a curious coincidence that both the U.S and Chinese stock markets are currently supported by record levels of margin debt?

Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-05-10 15:02:45

Or that both economies are run by unaccountable central planners?

 
 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-05-10 15:01:36

Obama touts his “massive fight” with Wall Street. Odd, it looks to me like Goldman Sachs, his #2 campaign contributor, has gotten its money’s worth many times over out of his bailouts, the refusal of Eric Holder’s Justice Department to go after TBTF banker malfeasance, and Obama’s continuation of Bush’s economic and monetary policies, i.e. letting the Fed and its Wall Street embark on an orgy of speculative excess backed by the Fed’s printing press trillions and middle class taxpayers.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-10/when-obama-talks-about-his-massive-fight-wall-street-what-exactly-does-he-refer

 
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