May 17, 2015

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Comment by rms
2015-05-17 01:39:57
Comment by Dman
2015-05-17 07:31:20

Only if cops have to chip in to pay the legal expenses every time one of them shoots someone in the back.

Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-05-17 08:07:21

Or detains, harrasses, and abuses them (in this case with Tasers) at un-Constututional but perfectly legal checkpoints.

http://www.theburningplatform.com/2015/05/17/what-the-fk-is-wrong-with-you/

 
 
 
Comment by Jingle Male
2015-05-17 02:24:36

I am staying at a Marriott hotel in a small Sacramento Valley town along Interstate 80 tonight and I am working in the lobby on my computer. I have seen three people arrive in the last hour looking for a hotel room, only to be turned away. It seems there are no hotel rooms available anywhere in this town tonight.

I have shared with you this last year my observations about the restaurant industry upturn, a phenomenon Ben affectionately calls the “Burrito Index”. Now I can report to you first hand knowledge about the “Hospitality Index”, which also seems to be very healthy these days.

Comment by Housing Analyst
2015-05-17 04:46:01

With sinking GDP and collapsing demand, are you sure?

Santa Rosa, CA List Prices Dive 4% YoY At Peak Of Season; Housing Demand At 20 Year Low

http://www.movoto.com/santa-rosa-ca/market-trends/

 
Comment by rallying the base
2015-05-17 05:30:29

Summer is almost here, time for Smithers to chime in with the Eastern Washington / Central Idaho Recreational Waterpark Attendance Index™

Comment by rms
2015-05-17 08:41:31

My two teenagers were at Silverwood Theme Park yesterday, got soaked in a downpour, marched in their school’s band at the Spokane Lilac Festival and arrived home at 0200-hrs in the morning. Both are still sleeping.

Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-17 12:36:24

Are you in Spokane?

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Comment by rms
2015-05-17 15:05:59

No, my two teenagers were just visiting for the day with their school’s band. We live in the Columbia Basin near Moses Lake, WA.

 
 
 
Comment by GuillotineRenovator
2015-05-17 12:14:55

Summer has got to be better for him than winter was. With only 16% of normal snowpack, his private ski resort undoubtedly left a lot to be desired.

 
 
Comment by azdude
2015-05-17 06:14:19

hanging out at watt avenue again?

Comment by Jingle Male
2015-05-18 04:18:41

Fairfield, CA

 
 
Comment by Dman
2015-05-17 07:09:01

People are always in need of rooms when traveling, no matter what the shape of the economy. Besides, even if what you say about this being some kind of indicator is true, it doesn’t disprove the possibility that we are in another housing bubble, which we are. A lot more people will need rooms when they’re driving back home to live with their parents after they’ve been foreclosed on.

 
Comment by Ben Jones
2015-05-17 07:49:52

‘Six years after the foreclosure crisis started, nearly 18 million houses are sitting vacant in the U.S. Could some find new life as Airbnb businesses?’

‘While visiting Akron, Ohio, to help redesign a rundown block in a neighborhood near the city’s downtown, a team of “tactical urbanists” from an organization called Better Block noticed how hard it was to find a place to stay, despite the fact that there were empty houses everywhere.’

“We couldn’t find a hotel in the neighborhood, and there weren’t really any downtown,” says Jason Roberts, founder of Better Block. “There was only one. At the same time, we saw a city report saying the population is decreasing and there’s this excess housing stock—there’s less tax revenue to take care of our existing infrastructure, but it will also bring down neighborhoods pretty quickly. Whenever there’s three or four houses that don’t sell, surrounding houses lose their value as well.”

http://www.fastcoexist.com/3045468/could-airbnb-help-solve-the-problem-of-vacant-housing

Comment by Combotechie
2015-05-17 08:03:50

“’We couldn’t find a hotel in the neighborhood, and there weren’t really any downtown,’ says Jason Roberts, founder of Better Block. ‘There was only one’.”

And just why is that?

“At the same time, we saw a city report saying the population is decreasing and there’s this excess housing stock—there’s less tax revenue to take care of our existing infrastructure, but it will also bring down neighborhoods pretty quickly.”

“… bring down neighborhoods pretty quickly.”

If a neighborhood is going to be brought down rather quickly then there is little incentive for anyone to build a hotel. And no hotel means no place to stay.

Comment by Combotechie
2015-05-17 08:10:01

Some trivia …

Some years ago a snazzy Radison Hotel sprung into being in Compton, CA because … because everyone wanted to visit Compton?

That did not work out that well (surprise!) so the hotel was eventually converted into a hotel/casino.

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Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-05-17 08:33:10

If a neighborhood is going to be brought down rather quickly then there is little incentive for anyone to build a hotel. And no hotel means no place to stay.

So that Nigerian prince who was going to let me in on that hotel investment opportunity in Ferguson, MO, might not have had my best interests at heart?

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Comment by Oddfellow
2015-05-17 09:40:39

“If a neighborhood is going to be brought down rather quickly then there is little incentive for anyone to build a hotel. And no hotel means no place to stay.

But they’re not proposing a hotel be built, they’re proposing the vacant houses be used as air bnb ‘hotels’. It’s actually a pretty good idea. I assume it’s already being done on a for-profit basis, albeit with less publicity since it probably violates most zoning codes and hoas.

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Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-17 08:13:10

‘Six years after the foreclosure crisis started, nearly 18 million houses are sitting vacant in the U.S. Could some find new life as Airbnb businesses?’

Sounds expensive. Who is going to maintain the moldy three-bedroom foreclosure motels?

 
Comment by rms
2015-05-17 08:45:16

“We couldn’t find a hotel in the neighborhood, and there weren’t really any downtown,” says Jason Roberts, founder of Better Block.”

Haha… a budding limousine liberal spreads his wings.

 
 
Comment by GuillotineRenovator
2015-05-17 12:17:49

Ahhhh, yes, chalk up another $5k or so per house in equity due to your hotel observations. If there’s a line at Chipotle, add another $750 per house.

 
Comment by Puggs
2015-05-17 13:14:59

What’s yer Applebee’s wait time??

How many cards did you have to swipe to pay before one took??

 
 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2015-05-17 04:48:26

Ashburn, VA Sale Prices Crater 10% YoY; 2010-2013 Homebuyers Now Underwater

http://www.zillow.com/ashburn-va/home-values/

 
Comment by Muggy
2015-05-17 05:03:19

A couple that we know that let their house go into foreclosure in 2010 just bought a house.

Comment by phony scandals
2015-05-17 05:48:16

Why don’t you pick them up a boomerang for a housewarming gift.

Comment by Muggy
2015-05-17 07:12:19

Or maybe some boxes?

 
 
Comment by Albuquerquedan
2015-05-17 06:04:25

Timing is not their forte.

Comment by palmetto
2015-05-17 06:09:17

ROTFLMAO!

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-17 07:37:46

Good point. Sounds like they have chosen a cyclical pattern of buying at the peak, only to lose the full value of their real estate investment to foreclosure in the next bust, after which they again buy high. This is a hopeless long-term wealth accumulation strategy, unless perhaps if they use HELOC funding to purchase stocks and other assets before defaulting.

It’s far more practical to buy in a trough, and sell at the peak or never. But timing is difficult given the unpredictability of central bank intervention to reflate housing.

Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-05-17 08:34:38

These people are victims, and middle class taxpayers and the Fed’s printing press must be mobilized to make whole the losses of the banks that underwrote their mortgages. This is, after all, what 95% of the electorate voted for.

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Comment by GuillotineRenovator
2015-05-17 12:19:20

These kind of people seem to enjoy taking a hammer to their own heads, and just beating themselves to death.

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Comment by phony scandals
2015-05-17 07:46:01

True story. Numbers and years are close.

Dude buys a Mcmansion near the peak in 04 or 05 in a county north of Palm Beach where Realtors were telling people they could still get a house for $300k.

Stops paying in 06 or 07. Yeah!

Lives there payment free through late 2012. Yeah!

Buys a lot north of there and builds a house cash and sweat while living payment free. Yeah!

Moves into mortgage free new house just before being evicted from foreclosure. Yeah!

Gets 1099 from bank of foreclosed house for $110k of which he owes about $40k to IRS. Boo!

Goes to accountant who tells him government program takes care of 1099. Yeah!

So in the end it all works out for some people.

Comment by ibbots
2015-05-17 08:21:10

‘Govt program’ is a tax bill that Congress passes near the end of every year exempting that 1099 from taxation for primary residences.

There are other exceptions as well.

Comment by Blue Skye
2015-05-17 08:27:11

At the time, it wasn’t his residence.

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Comment by ibbots
2015-05-17 08:35:14

It’s a question of characterization for tax law purposes. It was his PR when he abandoned it. As unfair , or rewarding stupidity, as it may be, it simply isn’t taxable.

 
 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-17 08:22:00

I forgot about the other long-term wealth accumulation strategy of buying at the peak, stopping payments during the subsequent recession, and living rent-free for five or more years during the bust. I’m not clever enough to execute this wealth accumulation strategy.

Comment by phony scandals
2015-05-17 08:37:34

Foreclosure to Home Free, as 5-Year Clock Expires

By MICHAEL CORKERYMARCH 29, 2015

There are tens of thousands of homeowners who have missed more than five years of mortgage payments, many of them clustered in states like Florida, New Jersey and New York, where lenders must get judges to sign off on foreclosures.

However, in a growing number of foreclosure cases filed when home prices collapsed during the financial crisis, lenders may never be able to seize the homes because the state statutes of limitations have been exceeded, according to interviews with housing lawyers and a review of state and federal court decisions.

http://www.nytimes.com/…/business/foreclosure-to-home-free-as-5-year-clock-expires.html -

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Comment by TBoom
2015-05-17 11:50:54

Comment by phony scandals
2015-05-17 08:37:34

Foreclosure to Home Free, as 5-Year Clock Expires
nytimes.com/2015/03/30/business/foreclosure-to-home-free-as-5-year-clock-expires.html?_r=0

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-17 12:40:42

One thing I learned from this Housing Bubble: Anyone who is foolish enough to try to play by the rules is begging to get screwed.

 
Comment by rms
2015-05-17 15:15:21

“One thing I learned from this Housing Bubble: Anyone who is foolish enough to try to play by the rules is begging to get screwed.”

+1 Some of us do not have the luxury of withdrawing from the larger economy, e.g., those raising a family. For us it’s Thoreau’s, “life of quiet desperation.”

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-17 15:58:05

rms — I can feel your pain, buddy. At times I look at my colleagues with no kids, who have time to drink, party, etc. and still get their work done, with envy.

 
Comment by In Colorado
2015-05-17 17:08:25

Some of us do not have the luxury of withdrawing from the larger economy, e.g., those raising a family. For us it’s Thoreau’s, “life of quiet desperation.”

You quickly come to the conclusion that the government, PTB and the system in general is at war with you if you have a family.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-17 20:11:52

Check out where the War on Families has led:

U.S. Birth Rate Remains At All-Time Low

Health
May 10, 2015

According to the annual report from the U.S. National Center for Health Statistics, which is part of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the birth rate in the United States has remained at an all-time low in 2013. Part of the reason for this is because a significant decrease in the amount of teenage pregnancy.

The study shows that only 3.9 million births happened in the United States in 2013, which is down about 1 percent from 2012. Although the report was released in January, it has been published in the May edition of Pediatrics. The fertility rate has also declined by 1 percent to 62.5 births per 1,000 women from ages 15 to 44, which is also a record low in the United States. Experts are predicting that the birth rate will start to increase though as the economy gets better, and by 2017 there should be a good comeback in terms of the birth rate. 2014 is really the first year where the economy started to show significant signs of coming back, so it will take a year or two for those numbers to start climbing back up.

The average age of motherhood is also increasing, with it being age 26 in 2013, which is up a little from 25.8 in 2012. Part of this was due to people getting out of college and having a hard time finding work, which means that these women are delaying starting a family until they get their career in order first. Since it is taking a lot longer for college graduates to find work, we are seeing a small delay in the age that women are first choosing to get pregnant. Women in their 30s and late 40s saw birth rates climb in 2013, as the birth rates for women in their 20s decreased. The birth rates for women who were in their early 40s though stayed about the same. Teen birth rates were also really low, with only 26.5 births per every 1,000 teenagers between age 15 to 19, and there was an overall drop of 10 percent from 2012.

 
Comment by rms
2015-05-17 21:14:15

“You quickly come to the conclusion that the government, PTB and the system in general is at war with you if you have a family.”

In order to support a family with one income I have to lead a very productive career that is wide open to social plunder. Going solo I could ratchet-down my lifestyle leaving the parasites too little to fight over.

 
 
 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-05-17 08:36:22

So in the end it all works out for some people.

The sheeple sanctioned this lunacy with their votes for Bush, Obama, McCain, and Romney, with HillaryJeb poised to take it to a whole new level. If you like your crony capitalism, you can keep your crony capitalism.

 
 
Comment by Puggs
2015-05-17 13:17:37

^^harbinger^^

 
 
Comment by azdude
2015-05-17 05:57:20

the interest you would have got on your savings is helping to support voters with some checks.

Comment by aNYCdj
2015-05-17 06:16:23

the millions not paying their mortgage every month is the new ohbewanna stimulus package. suffer the renters

 
 
Comment by Albuquerquedan
2015-05-17 06:20:14

It looks like the Bakken boom may have driven up the price of pot. I am not sure that I feel good about that much demand among frackers:

http://boston.suntimes.com/bos-news/7/119/173586/marijuana-costs-every-state

 
Comment by phony scandals
2015-05-17 06:23:16

Repeat after me.

Climate change the “greatest threat to future generations”.

If you don’t believe in man made global warming, you can’t have any pudding!

How can you have any pudding if you don’t believe in man made global
warming?

You! Yes you, stand still laddy!

We don’t need no carbon taxes
We don’t need no thought control
No dark sarcasm from real journalists
Climate scientist leave them temps alone
Hey! Climate scientist! Leave them temps alone!
All in all it’s just another brick in the wall.
All in all you’re just another brick in the wall.

No change here.

Wrong, Do it again!

If you don’t sell man made global warming, you can’t have any pudding!

How can you have any pudding if you don’t sell man made global
warming?

You! Yes, you behind the land-based weather station, stand still laddy!

Pink Floyd - Another Brick In The Wall (HQ) - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR5ApYxkU-U - 356k -

Comment by Albuquerquedan
2015-05-17 06:36:36

Great job. Loved the original in college but this is a worthy parody.

Comment by phony scandals
2015-05-17 06:59:27

“For some, electricity is becoming a luxury item.”

NY Times puts green lipstick on a pig

By Charles Battig
May 12, 2015

Columnist Thomas Friedman has won three Pulitzer Prizes. His editorial skills are in full display in his May 6, 2015 New York Times article “Germany, the Green Superpower.” He seems anxious to share his Nobel Prize experiences by awarding a Nobel Peace Prize to Germany for their “energy transformation” program and for what he sees as a resultant “stability of our planet and climate.” A true literary professional, he knows how to put the proverbial “lipstick on a pig” and make it seem like a genuine thing of beauty.

Friedman neglected to mention that 15,000 coal miners took to the streets of Berlin to protest over potential job losses. This in the same week he was entranced by the German green-energy wonder.

Friedman claims that Energiewende “was to create demand that would drive down the cost of solar and wind to make them mainstream, affordable options. And, in that, the Energiewende has been an undiluted success.” Tell that to the German consumers now paying the highest electricity prices in Europe. For some, electricity is becoming a luxury item. Unable to pay electricity rates over twice the price of ours, 800,000 poor Germans have had their power cut off. Manufacturing plants are leaving Germany for other countries in search of cheaper and more stable electric energy.

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/05/ny_times_puts_green_lipstick_on_a_pig.html#ixzz3aP6tSaIT
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Comment by phony scandals
2015-05-17 07:06:38

Merkel Seeks Global Emissions-Trading Market to Protect Climate

by Stefan Nicola
6:25 AM EDT
May 16, 2015

German Chancellor Angela Merkel is seeking a global emissions-trading system to help curb climate change.

Nations should identify their climate-protection targets quickly and live up to financial-aid promises made to poor nations, she said. Extending Europe’s emissions-trading system, the world’s largest, to other regions would level the playing field, Merkel said Saturday in her weekly video message.

“It would also enable us to extend certificate trading to more areas,” Merkel said.

Germany, which is seeking to replace its atomic reactors and coal plants with clean-energy sources including solar and wind, is at the forefront of efforts by some 190 nations to agree to a global treaty to rein in heat-trapping gases from burning fossil fuels.

Countries and investors pledged in 2009 to provide developing nations with $100 billion a year by 2020 to nudge them onto a greener developmental path.

“We need a financing instrument,” Merkel said. “Otherwise the developing economies and also the countries especially affected by climate change won’t back a deal.”

http://www.bloomberg.com/…eks-global-emissions-trading-market-to-protect-climate-i9qw17lg - 110k -

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Comment by TBoom
2015-05-17 07:22:17

Comment by phony scandals
2015-05-17 07:06:38

Merkel Seeks Global Emissions-Trading Market to Protect Climate
bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-05-16/merkel-seeks-global-emissions-trading-market-to-protect-climate-i9qw17lg

 
 
Comment by In Colorado
2015-05-17 07:12:33

Germany is far from alone in having expensive electricty:

http://shrinkthatfootprint.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/electriccost1.gif

One member of the mile hi club that surprised me: Australia.

A thought that crossed my mind: even though it’s much cheaper in the US, I suspect that the average American household spends more on electricity than its German counterpart. Why? Because American houses are much bigger and need to be cooled during half the year (you don’t need to A/C in Germany).

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Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-05-17 07:49:39

Houses in northern European countries are much better built than US houses, too, since becoming a builder or tradesman is a much more rigorous process and their inspectors aren’t bought off as easily as ours.

 
Comment by Albuquerquedan
2015-05-17 08:06:10

There are a lot of older homes in Europe which were built long before those standards were in place.

 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-05-17 08:31:32

Yes, but they still had a work ethic and built things to a high standard with pride of workmanship, because that’s how northern Europeans did things. Go into any of the towns in places like Ohio where the original settlers were of German stock and see how well they built the old courthouses, churches, and barns for that matter. Very impressive, and built to last.

 
Comment by measton
2015-05-17 11:35:36

Silly rabbit

Work is for peons, muppets, and slaves. Pride in your work? These subhumans who work should never take pride in anything, nor should they have any financial gain from their work nor voice in their government.

 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-05-17 13:51:58

Spoken like a true oligarch.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Oddfellow
2015-05-17 06:43:18

All in all you’re gonna need
More bricks in the sea wall.

NASA: 10,000-year-old Antarctic ice shelf will disappear by 2020

(CNN)One of the last remaining sections of Antarctica’s Larsen B Ice Shelf is dramatically weakening, according to a new NASA study.

The study predicts that what remains of the once-prominent ice shelf, a thick floating platform of ice, most likely will “disintegrate completely” before the end of this decade.

Ice shelves are extensions of glaciers and function as barriers. Their disappearance means glaciers potentially will diminish more quickly, as well, increasing the pace at which global sea levels rise.

The Larsen B Ice Shelf has existed for at least 10,000 years.

Comment by Albuquerquedan
2015-05-17 06:59:45

Over ice is the area is increasing not increasing, I have posted the data many times.

Comment by Oddfellow
2015-05-17 07:04:27

“Satellites measure Antarctica is gaining sea ice but losing land ice at an accelerating rate which has implications for sea level rise.”

Skeptical Science

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Comment by Albuquerquedan
Comment by Oddfellow
2015-05-17 07:20:06

Yes, yes, your favorite climate change denier web site, run by a college-dropout weatherman.

 
Comment by Albuquerquedan
2015-05-17 07:35:43

The left hates that it can not monopolize the flow of information. But virtually all the information on WUWT is not generated by the host and people like you have no response so you just attack the reliability of the site.

He is a Yale study and I believe I have seen a similar study by a Harvard researcher, the critics understand the science better than the advocates:

http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/environment/item/20158-global-warming-skeptics-know-more-climate-science-study-shows

 
Comment by MacBeth
2015-05-17 08:09:43

Oddfellow,

Do you know that Al Gore flunked out of Vanderbilt Law?

 
Comment by Oddfellow
2015-05-17 08:18:43

“Do you know that Al Gore flunked out of Vanderbilt Law?”

That’s why I don’t post his legal opinions.

 
Comment by Combotechie
2015-05-17 08:40:45

Here’s Al Gore expressing his opinions about what should have probably happened regarding Artic ice:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1XyTbPwhlw

 
Comment by Shrimpsaladsandwich
2015-05-17 08:56:23

I’m kinda torn on this. On the one hand flunking out as the kid of a rich politically connected family must be pretty hard. On the other he probably didn’t care at all because he knew he’d always have it made.

What’d worry me was if he actually showed up and tried but they still flunked him.

 
Comment by Oddfellow
2015-05-17 09:17:08

Let me see if I’ve got it straight. Al Gore is a bit of a buffoon and owns a big airplane, therefore global warming is a scam.

Sounds logical to me!

 
Comment by Combotechie
2015-05-17 09:22:04

“Sounds logical to me!”

Not much of a surprise.

 
Comment by MacBeth
2015-05-17 10:35:30

Oddfellow,

I bet you believed Gore’s environmental blathering in the past. I bet you even used him as a resource in conversation and elsewhere.

I wouldn’t be surprised if you voted for Gore in 2000 because of his environmental stance and “knowledge”.

 
Comment by Combotechie
2015-05-17 12:38:35

Here’s John Kerry holding forth on climate change:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obauzVG2mPI

Run time = one and a half minutes.

 
Comment by Combotechie
2015-05-17 12:58:02

Here’s a video from 2009 of John Kerry on the Senate floor predicting ice free Artic summers and other pending disasters:

http://www.climatechangedispatch.com/flashback-2009-john-kerry-s-epic-fail-on-an-ice-free-arctic-by-2015.html

 
Comment by Combotechie
2015-05-17 13:08:49

Artic = Arctic

 
 
Comment by Dman
2015-05-17 07:21:39

“Over ice is the area is increasing not decreasing”

I’m starting to think ADan’s posts are actually computer generated by some Koch Industries program, that is I is what I think.

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Comment by Albuquerquedan
2015-05-17 08:17:07

“all” was deleted somehow.

 
 
 
Comment by Combotechie
2015-05-17 07:13:29

“The study predicts that what remains of the once-prominent ice shelf, a thick floating platform of ice, most likely will “disintegrate completely” before the end of this decade.”

“floating”

If the ice is floating then it is already displacing it volume of water and hence its melting will not make the seal level rise.

Comment by Albuquerquedan
2015-05-17 07:23:47

Exactly, ice forms on land moves off and then turns into icebergs, natural cycle. As a Harvard study showed, the opponents of AGW know more about science then the advocates but the liberals like to believe they are smarter.

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Comment by Combotechie
2015-05-17 07:39:35

“Exactly, ice forms on land moves off and then turns into icebergs, natural cycle.”

This isn’t my point. My point is the ice is floating on water and thus is already displacing its weight of water. If the ice was added to the water from the land then, however small, this added water would cause a rise in the sea level.

But the ice is not being added to the water,the ice is already in the water.

 
Comment by Albuquerquedan
2015-05-17 07:47:58

I know that was not your point. Your point was about my displacement, I added the part about it being a natural cycle. The water that is removed from the ocean lowers ocean levels but then moves into the ocean where it restores the ocean level.

 
 
Comment by Oddfellow
2015-05-17 08:14:19

“If the ice is floating then it is already displacing it volume of water and hence its melting will not make the seal level rise.”

Brilliant scientific point, but if you extend your scientific inquiry all the way to the third paragraph, you will learn that:

“Ice shelves are extensions of glaciers and function as barriers. Their disappearance means glaciers potentially will diminish more quickly, as well, increasing the pace at which global sea levels rise.”

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Comment by Albuquerquedan
2015-05-17 08:37:49

From Climate4you, key point from about 5 years ago, and while the co2 levels have increased to 400, the point is even more valid despite the co2 levels being now 110 parts per million higher the temperature is still 2 degrees Celsius cooler, clearly co2 is not the main driver of climate and we could tax and spend trillions without impacting it, but of course the real purpose of the tax and spending would be to facilitate globalism not fight temperature increases:

The diagram above (Fig.2) shows a reconstruction of global temperature based on ice core analysis from the Antarctica. The present interglacial period (the Holocene) is seen to the right (red square). The preceding four interglacials are seen at about 125,000, 280,000, 325,000 and 415,000 years before now, with much longer glacial periods in between. All four previous interglacials are seen to be warmer (1-3oC) than the present. The typical length of a glacial period is about 100,000 years, while an interglacial period typical lasts for about 10-15,000 years. The present interglacial period has now lasted about 11,600 years.

According to ice core analysis, the atmospheric CO2 concentrations during all four prior interglacials never rose above approximately 290 ppm; whereas the atmospheric CO2 concentration today stands at nearly 390 ppm. The present interglacial is about 2oC colder than the previous interglacial, even though the atmospheric CO2 concentration now is about 100 ppm higher.

 
Comment by Oddfellow
2015-05-17 09:14:08

So the scientists of the world are united in a giant conspiracy to put a surcharge tax on fossil fuels?

Why?

 
Comment by measton
2015-05-17 11:39:40

Why? because the financially poor and poor gov connections of big oil, gas, coal etc can’t compete against the massive war chest of solar and wind companies. ?

 
 
 
Comment by MacBeth
2015-05-17 08:13:24

Ice that is 10,000 years old is pretty rancid.

Time to start anew.

 
 
 
Comment by palmetto
2015-05-17 07:07:13

Sigh. The whole “climate change” thing bewilders me, but my understanding is that the reason it is so heavily promoted is that there is big bux in it.

Now, it is true that climate changes over time. If it didn’t, we’d still be swimming in the pea soup of inland seas, or Greenland would be a lovely, forested northern island on the order of the PNW.

So climate does change over time, yes. How much of an effect man has on it is up for debate. I do think China’s collective toxic plume hasn’t exactly been beneficial for the planet. And no one ever seems to mention the effects of the many recent “military actions” around the world and what all those fancy weapons can do. One thing I do know, most weapons of this nature generate a LOT of heat and energy, not to mention stuff like weaponized white phosphorous.

And then there’s exponential population increase, perhaps the biggest problem of the times, but of course, no one ever mentions it.

Comment by Combotechie
2015-05-17 09:14:25

If you get tired of the politics regarding the climate and want to understand the science of climate then here’s an excellent place to go:

http://forecast.uchicago.edu/lectures.html

And here’s another excellent place to go:

http://scienceofdoom.com/

IMHO. FWIW.

Comment by Combotechie
2015-05-17 10:35:14

If you want to get a hint of some of the problems encountered in modeling the climate then go here (this is a segment from the first post above):

http://www.kaltura.com/index.php/extwidget/preview/partner_id/1090132/uiconf_id/20652192/entry_id/1_7h2stik6/embed/auto?

(run time = 9 minutes or so)

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Comment by Combotechie
2015-05-17 11:10:48

Climate models! Weather forecasts!

Here’s some models for the upcoming El Nino. Pay attention to the differences of the various projections:

https://bobtisdale.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/figure-1.gif

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Comment by phony scandals
2015-05-17 07:08:42

Useful idiot

From Wikipedia

In political jargon, useful idiot is a term for people perceived as propagandists for a cause whose goals they are not fully aware of, and who are used cynically by the leaders of the cause. Despite often being attributed to Vladimir Lenin,[1][2][3] in 1987, Grant Harris, senior reference librarian at the Library of Congress, declared that “We have not been able to identify this phrase among [Lenin's] published works.”[4][5]

In the Russian language, the equivalent term “useful fools” (полезные дураки, tr. polezniye duraki) was in use at least in 1941.[6]

Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-05-17 09:00:47

Here, let me use it in sentence form for some context:

“A venal and corrupt .1% in the financial sector can count on the useful idiots in the US electorate who vote overwhelmingly for oligarch-annointed Republicrat candidates who will perpetuate the crony-capitalist status quo, at the expense of the 99 percent.”

 
 
Comment by Dman
2015-05-17 07:16:47

Phony, do you work in the same Koch Industries troll office as 2Banana?

Comment by Albuquerquedan
2015-05-17 07:39:34

The CAGW seems to be getting quite upset that they get their butts kicked on this issue every time they raise it. You think they would learn but the inability to learn is why the vast majority of them will be voting for Hillary in the next election cycle. “We won’t get fooled again” is a lyric that they did not learn.

Comment by Dman
2015-05-17 08:12:04

Trolling global warming on a housing website only proves how desperate the deniers are.

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Comment by phony scandals
2015-05-17 08:49:07

“Trolling global warming on a housing website only proves how desperate the deniers are.”

:)

Comment by Bring Back the WPA
2015-05-13 07:53:04

Are You A “Lukewarmer”?

“It’s the hottest trend in climate denial. Long gone are the days when people can publicly deny that the planet is warming or that humans are responsible without facing widespread mockery. Those who oppose taking serious action to curb global warming have mostly shifted to Stage 3 in the 5 stages of climate denial.

Stage 1: Deny the problem exists
Stage 2: Deny we’re the cause
Stage 3: Deny it’s a problem <<<
Stage 4: Deny we can solve it
Stage 5: It’s too late

Comment by Bring Back the WPA
2015-05-13 08:19:24

Still stuck in Stage 1 I see ;-)

 
Comment by peter a
2015-05-17 09:16:37

Maybe its the sun
https://youtu.be/QxVfJ2HXCU4

 
Comment by peter a
2015-05-17 09:22:11

How about a pole shift
https://youtu.be/sIayxqk0Ees

 
 
 
 
Comment by measton
2015-05-17 07:35:48

Science we don’t need no stinkin science

Continental Resources (NYSE:CLR) CEO Harold Hamm told a University of Oklahoma dean last year that he wanted certain scientists there dismissed who were studying links between oil and gas activity and the state’s increase in earthquakes (I, II), according to e-mails examined by Bloomberg.

Big oil and coal interests worth trillions wouldn’t try to do the same thing with global warming would they?

Comment by ibbots
2015-05-17 07:49:40

Denton county, North of dallas, voted to ban franking last year, I.e. no drilling permits.

The republican dominated state lege passed a law this year prohibiting counties from restricting drilling activities.

So much for ’small govt’ and ‘local control’.

 
Comment by Albuquerquedan
2015-05-17 08:01:09

It is no coincidence that the AGW crowd has wanted to shutdown both the scientific and political debate on this issue around the same time the data turned against. While correlation does not prove causation, from 1979-1998 it was easy to argue that co2 was causing a warming, however since 1998 to now the correlation has totally broken down since temperatures are stable to down despite soaring levels of co2 in the atmosphere, so as e-mails have demonstrated, the have attempted to prevent scientific studies from being published, they have refused to debate AGW skeptics, newspaper’s have even refused to even allow comments against AGW. The AGW crowd has even called for critics to be jailed. Hardly science or even the actions of people that believe that the facts are on their side.

Comment by Oddfellow
2015-05-17 16:33:24

It is no coincidence that the AGW crowd has wanted to shutdown both the scientific and political debate on this issue

Except that it’s the fossil fuel industry CEO who is calling for the scientists to be fired. Remember? Here’s the line:

Continental Resources (NYSE:CLR) CEO Harold Hamm told a University of Oklahoma dean last year that he wanted certain scientists there dismissed

So your point is exactly backwards, like most of your reasoning.

You know, if the truth was on your side, you wouldn’t have to be so deceptive.

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Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-17 16:53:48

AlbuBackwardsDan?

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-17 16:54:49

You know, if the truth was on your side, you wouldn’t have to be so deceptive.

You may as well point out that if he weren’t an attorney, he wouldn’t have to lie for a living.

 
 
 
Comment by measton
2015-05-17 08:01:20

There’s always talk from the ADAN team about how all the scientists are in it for the money.

Compare market cap of all oil,gas, coal companies to all alternative energy companies and then get back to us. Even the recent crash their market cap and money dwarfs alternative energy.

Gov is also controlled by those with the most money as the Texas GOP taking away local control demonstrates.

Comment by Albuquerquedan
2015-05-17 08:11:24

Compare market cap of all oil,gas, coal companies to all alternative energy companies and then get back to us. Even the recent crash their market cap and money dwarfs alternative energy.

The critical difference is the fossil fuel companies do not need government subsidies to survive. Without massive government subsidies the market cap of alternative energy companies would be around 0, since they cannot survive without subsidies. Thus, they have to be actively pushing AGW to justify their subsidies.

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Comment by ibbots
2015-05-17 08:31:59

Good point, oil and gas aren’t subsidized…er right?

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/may/12/us-taxpayers-subsidising-worlds-biggest-fossil-fuel-companies

“The world’s biggest and most profitable fossil fuel companies are receiving huge and rising subsidies from US taxpayers, a practice slammed as absurd by a presidential candidate.

A Guardian investigation of three specific projects, run by Shell, ExxonMobil and Marathon Petroleum, has revealed that the subsidises were all granted by politicians who received significant campaign contributions from the fossil fuel industry.”

 
Comment by Albuquerquedan
2015-05-17 08:41:48

If you are paying much more in taxes then you are receiving in tax breaks you are not being subsidized, and they fossil fuel providers are huge net taxpayers no matter how much Elon Musk tries to spin it to continue to receive his subsidies. Now, I am off to the gym followed by a buffet.

 
Comment by measton
2015-05-17 11:47:36

Didn’t Exxon pay zero taxes in 2008-9?

If you are paying much more in taxes than you receive in tax breaks you are not being subsidized? Really?

The bottoms line is oil and gas get Massive subsidies and tax breaks.

1. Military security
2. Pennies for dollars leases on private land
3. A lot of engineering and infrastructure provided by the gov.
4. Problems created by the pollution that cost tax payers billions.

 
Comment by Oddfellow
2015-05-17 13:14:06

Half of our navy exists to guard oil shipping lanes. We fight massively expensive and divisive wars to protect big oil producing countries. Calculate that into the comparative costs of oil, wind, and solar.

Oil’s not subsidized, lol.

 
 
Comment by Ben Jones
2015-05-17 08:15:03

What I find strange about all this is how silly it all is. What’s the contention; tax or not to tax. That we can control behavior, or skew it this way or that with a tax. We tax income. Does that dissuade people from earning a living?

I sense a bit of false issue mining. Yes, I’ll fly around the world saving the environment. People shuttle to and fro. If you really want to cut down on pollution, you are going to have to make meaningful changes. If not, it looks like a money grab. Remember the tobacco settlement? Were the parties interested in health, or was it a lawyer bonanza and government windfall?

Yesterday Obama promised to protect the oil rich states from Iran. So he wants more money from me to protect the Saudis, who pump out a bunch of oil. While he flies around the world. While aircraft carriers, surrounded by a fleet, burn fuel cruising the planet. With jets overhead, and helicopters. No one is going to do a damn thing about pollution. If I am right about that, what’s the fuss?

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Comment by Oddfellow
2015-05-17 08:33:21

“What I find strange about all this is how silly it all is”

I agree. It’s amusing to watch the contortions the deniers go through after any little post about global warming. Suddenly there’s a full-scale assault, with post after post citing the same questionable sources, and plenty of personal invective thrown in as well.

It’s clearly very important to somebody.

 
Comment by Blue Skye
2015-05-17 08:39:00

I think a lot of the fuss is over who can be forced to do with less, because nobody wants it to be them.

 
Comment by Ben Jones
2015-05-17 08:46:01

Here’s an example; globalization is probably the biggest contributor to pollution. More and more cars. More power plants. But what’s the Presidents’ dire issue of the day? More globalization. It doesn’t add up.

I was pricing an outbuilding recently, and one contractor mentioned shipping containers. It seems the Chinese have decided it is cheaper to build these steel boxes you see on ships and trains, fill them up with stuff, send it over here and sell the thing rather than send it back. How much energy goes into mining, making it into metal, moving it around, shipping it across the ocean, so we can have an aisle of crap in a walmart? Just make the freaking stuff where you are going to sell it! Oh no, that would stop the Inevitable Globalism. That would be evil protectionism. Funny how this thing that threatens mankind itself is never viewed in certain other issues.

That’s just one reason I don’t think it’s really about stopping (or not) pollution. Same with water. If you have golf courses in the desert, don’t tell me you want my money because we are about to run out of water.

 
Comment by phony scandals
2015-05-17 08:54:02

“I think a lot of the fuss is over who can be forced to do with less, because nobody wants it to be them.”

The UN will tell you what and what not you will be forced to do with.

 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-05-17 09:17:39

t seems the Chinese have decided it is cheaper to build these steel boxes you see on ships and trains, fill them up with stuff, send it over here and sell the thing rather than send it back. How much energy goes into mining, making it into metal, moving it around, shipping it across the ocean, so we can have an aisle of crap in a walmart? </i<

“Zimbabwe Ben” Bernanke and Yellen the Felon may have unintentionally brought the day closer when we are forced to re-establish the American manufacturing base, since their debasement of the dollar is ultimately going to cost the dollar its world reserve currency status. The Chinese and other producers will at some point refuse to accept digital ones and zeros or printing-press greenbacks in exchange for tangible manufactured goods.

 
Comment by Oddfellow
2015-05-17 09:23:04

Why do the scientists want the UN to take over?

 
Comment by butters
2015-05-17 10:35:31

Remember the tobacco settlement? Were the parties interested in health, or was it a lawyer bonanza and government windfall?

This is why I love this blog. Cutting right thru it.
END OF DISCUSSION.

 
Comment by Oddfellow
2015-05-17 11:04:44

“END OF DISCUSSION”

But we were just about to find out why the scientists of many different countries want the UN to take over, or at least institute a carbon tax.

 
Comment by phony scandals
2015-05-17 11:13:05

“Remember the tobacco settlement? Were the parties interested in health, or was it a lawyer bonanza and government windfall?”

I’m gonna have to go with lawyer bonanza and government windfall.

 
Comment by measton
2015-05-17 12:07:13

What I find strange about all this is how silly it all is. What’s the contention; tax or not to tax. That we can control behavior, or skew it this way or that with a tax. We tax income. Does that dissuade people from earning a living?

Taxes on tobacco definitely change behavior. Remember when oil prices went up, people were all of a sudden driving the speed limit and buying small cars. Taxes in Europe accomplish the same thing and people there drive a lot less and drive smaller cars. You can’t control behavior but you can definitely modify it.

 
Comment by phony scandals
2015-05-17 12:13:44

“Taxes on tobacco definitely change behavior.”

See black market cigarette dealer Eric Garner.

 
Comment by Oddfellow
2015-05-17 12:18:24

So why do all those scientists want the UN to take over?

 
Comment by Blue Skye
2015-05-17 14:03:17

Scientists are still arguing about that.

 
Comment by Oddfellow
2015-05-17 14:16:00

“Scientists are still arguing about that.”

What are the pros and cons?

And why are there no scientists saying they’re being coerced and/or bribed into a conspiracy? Why are there no angry ex-members of the conspiracy itself, or their angry ex-spouses or SOs, spilling the beans? There would have to be massive numbers of such potential squealers. Why no significant leaks?

Why did the FBI, even under big oil man GWBush, not pursue any investigations into this worldwide conspiracy, it being so against the interests of huge, extremely wealthy and powerful companies, with very strong legal teams and lobbying ability?

 
Comment by Dman
2015-05-17 14:27:30

WWTKBD? = What would the Koch Brothers do? Pick and choose your scientists, pay the ones you pick, and attack the ones who don’t want your bribe money.

 
Comment by butters
2015-05-17 14:43:25

What would the Soros funded trolls do?

 
Comment by Blue Skye
2015-05-17 16:05:24

Who paid for the 30,000 papers that got the UN stamp of approval? I suppose a salary (how many salaries does it take to publish 30,000 papers) has some incentive attached to it.

 
Comment by Oddfellow
2015-05-17 16:49:20

How do you coerce tens of thousands of tenured professors around the world into supporting a UN takeover? How do you keep so many tenured professors (notoriously difficult if not impossible to manage) quiet, obedient, and toeing the line of such a worldwide criminal operation?

Answer: You can’t. The idea is absurd.

(And why didn’t the FBI investigate this during the presidency of oilman GWBush?)

 
Comment by Blue Skye
2015-05-17 17:37:35

I’m sure you’re a nice kid Oddie, but I think you’ve fallen into the soup head first.

What do these altruistic teachers want the UN to make us do exactly, aside from pay taxes. I’m reluctant to pay taxes and have things just get worse. Why don’t these teachers travel around and teach sustainable living?

Did you read the article I posted on the sidewalk project? I must say I don’t want those people governing me.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Albuquerquedan
2015-05-17 06:47:01

I wonder if this means that we are covertly cooperating with Syria. We kill an oil commander and probably seize records in a Delta raid and then the Syrians make a similar raid perhaps with our intel?

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2015-05/16/c_134244873.htm

Comment by Albuquerquedan
2015-05-17 07:01:55

Reading both stories together it is clear that they are talking about the same commander and raid Thus, are the Syrians claiming credit for a raid they had nothing to do with or did they have a role in this operation?

 
 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2015-05-17 06:58:14

Seething rage. Meltdown. Crushing.Housing.Losses.

CraterRage Photo Of The Day

http://goo.gl/o0mVbU

Comment by Selfish Hoarder
2015-05-17 07:03:04

Yow!

Comment by aNYCdj
2015-05-17 07:10:32

drugs rock and roll and surprisingly good teeth

Comment by Housing Analyst
2015-05-17 07:24:11

And crushing debt load on a rapidly depreciating house.

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Comment by azdude
2015-05-17 09:03:29

Maintenance is just part of owning a home. U have to maintain your car too but no matter what you do it will depreciate. Homes are different.

 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2015-05-17 09:46:21

Houses depreciate rapidly Poet. Just like cars.

 
 
 
 
Comment by phony scandals
2015-05-17 07:28:40

OK, that photo calls for some visual brain rinse.

The Squad | Miami Dolphins Cheerleaders
http://www.dolphinscheerleaders.com/the-squad - 39k -

Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-05-17 07:51:41

In the immortal words of Al Bundy, “Let’s see ‘em build a better one of THOSE in Japan….”

Comment by butters
2015-05-17 10:49:06
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Comment by phony scandals
2015-05-17 12:15:44

“Korea has done it. I am sure Japanese have them, too.”

They wouldn’t have made it past the first cut in Miami.

 
 
 
Comment by rms
2015-05-17 09:21:48

Look at the part line on the blondes… err, brunettes. Gotta check out the wool if ‘ya want blonde. :)

 
Comment by Bill, just south of Irvine
2015-05-17 10:39:12

Nice. Never enough of them!

 
 
 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2015-05-17 07:33:12

When will the second NASDAQ collapse occur?

A week, month, 90 days?

Are you prepared?

Comment by azdude
2015-05-17 08:49:56

So you think uncle FED will sit and watch the asset bubbles they have worked so hard to create just collapse?

Comment by rms
2015-05-17 09:06:20

The invisible hand is always right.

Comment by Housing Analyst
2015-05-17 09:50:33

ALWAYS

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Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-17 07:38:50

Who’s your debt daddy?

Comment by butters
2015-05-17 11:05:55

Yollon the fellon?

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-17 12:51:00

World Economy
Who’s your debt daddy? China tops list of US foreign creditors once more
23 Hours Ago
Reuters
Employee Linda Tarkenton holds a blank U.S. Treasury check before it’s run through a printer at the U.S. Treasury printing facility in Philadelphia.
Getty Images

China returned as the United States’ largest foreign creditor in March, even as overall foreign central bank holdings of U.S. Treasuries fell, U.S. government data showed on Friday.

China held $1.261 trillion in U.S. Treasuries in March, the most since September and up from $1.224 trillion from February, the Treasury Department data showed.

Japan slipped back to No. 2 with $1.227 trillion, above $1.224 trillion in February.

Belgium, which as recently as February was the No. 3 holder of U.S. debt, saw its holdings plunge in March by $92.5 billion to $252.8 billion.

Analysts have said the country’s holdings had risen due to foreign accumulation of Treasuries held in custody accounts at Belgium-based clearing houses.

“This suggests that the run-up is finally starting to unwind, with Chinese holdings spiking $37.3 billion in March,” Gennadiy Goldberg, interest rate strategist with TD Securities, wrote in a research note.

 
 
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Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-05-17 07:57:36

While the sheeple continue to elect candidates like HillaryJeb or a certain “Constitutional Lawyer” who preside over the trampling of the Constitution, those hapless souls who experience first-hand how eroded our liberties have become will probably be joining the tiny but growing enlightened minority who will be supporting pro-liberty candidates like Rand Paul.

http://www.theburningplatform.com/2015/05/17/what-the-fk-is-wrong-with-you/

 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-05-17 08:12:23

Another neo-con success story, after a war that has cost well over $1.7 trillion to date in direct costs alone.

http://news.yahoo.com/iraqs-anbar-total-collapse-brink-falling-islamic-state-145804625.html

 
Comment by Albuquerquedan
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-05-17 08:22:58

This mess can be squarely laid to the account of Bush and the neo-con cabal around him who created this mess. And that idiot Bremer, who summarily fired 400,000 members of the former Iraqi military who if treated more fairly might not have turned into embittered insurgents. While I’m no fan of Obama or Kerry, in fairness to them, they inherited this mess, while Jeb and his AIPAC handlers are leading the charge to go back in full-force.

Comment by Albuquerquedan
2015-05-17 08:48:09

Ronald Reagan inherited the fall of the Shah and the rise of Islamic extremists throughout the region. As president you have to deal with the hand that was dealt. The key is whether you make it better or worse. Iraq had stabilized by the time Obama inherited it. However, the Arab Spring destabilized the entire region as I predicted it would in 2011. Obama and Hillary bragged about their role in Arab Spring when they thought it was promoting democracy in the region. Thus, Obama owns a major part of the disasters unfolding in both Syria and Iraq.

Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-17 12:52:50

“Iraq had stabilized by the time Obama inherited it.”

Not.

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Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-05-17 10:57:48

Iraqi “security forces” seem to have a disturbing proclivity to drop their American-supplied weapons and flee in terror whenever they get attacked. So now with their latest and by no means last defeat, they are calling for the US to save their sorry a$$es. Why is it that our “allies” never seem to have any fire in their bellies? And how much more blood and treasure are we going to pour into ratholes like Iraq?

http://www.basnews.com/en/news/2015/05/17/iraq-asks-for-immediate-military-support-from-us-to-save-anbar/

 
Comment by aNYCdj
2015-05-17 17:41:57

osama won…..we could have spent the money on high speed rail and that amtrack train would have rounded the corner at the right speed…

Comment by rms
2015-05-17 20:12:53

The corn-fed, red-state, pork-bellies are waiting for Jesus’ return… at ANY price.

 
 
 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-05-17 08:16:25

I am shocked, shocked! that the oligarch-owned MSM has not disclosed its crony-capitalist ties to the Clintons and their “charity foundation.”

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/05/16/stephanopoulos-abc-clinton-schweizer-foundation-hillary-column/27436475/

 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-05-17 08:19:46

Apartments selling for $20 million in Manhattan, while in Brooklyn the neo-Visigoths are stepping up their marauding (oh, and honest citizens have long since been stripped of their Second Amendment rights to defend themselves). Methinks this isn’t going to end well for whoever paid out insane money for that edgy urban living experience.

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2015/05/16/video-subway-vandals/

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-17 08:24:09

Illinois’s public pensions
The bottomless pit
A setback for efforts to tackle enormous unfunded liabilities
May 16th 2015 | CHICAGO | From the print edition
Timekeeper

ON MAY 12th President Barack Obama and the First Lady announced on video that Chicago’s hardscrabble South Side had been chosen as the site of the presidential library. Rahm Emanuel, Chicago’s mayor, who had fought hard to get the library for his city rather than New York or Honolulu, watched proudly as the president proclaimed: “We can attract the world to Chicago.”

Even at that great moment, however, Mr Emanuel was reminded of the bad news of the week: the voiding by the Illinois Supreme Court of a plan to fix the state’s and the city’s gargantuan pension debt. A reporter popped up to ask how the city, with more than $20 billion in unfunded pension liabilities, could possibly pay for better transport for all those visitors to the new library. And a few hours later Moody’s, a credit-rating agency, revealed that it had downgraded Chicago’s rating to junk, because it believes that “the city’s options for curbing growth in its own unfunded pension liabilities have narrowed considerably”.

Comment by X-GSfixr
2015-05-17 08:52:58

I haven’t seen how screwing the private sector out of their pensions has done anything besides give more money to rich people.

Yet somehow one of the fixes is to screw the public sector out of their pensions.

Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-05-17 09:27:38

Almost to a man, the oligarch-annointed GOP candidates are backing the “privatization” of social security, which translates into allowing their .1% puppetmasters to go on an unfettered looting spree of the last great reserve of wealth that still remains beyond their grasp. And I have little doubt that the sheeple will once again meekly bend over and grab their ankles on command, as they did on ‘08 and ‘12.

Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-17 12:55:40

Is this more likely to happen if the next WH occupant is D or R?

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Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-17 12:54:45

“Yet somehow one of the fixes…”

Think of it as a smoke screen for the 0.1% stealing from the 99.9% and it will make more sense.

 
 
 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
Comment by butters
2015-05-17 10:40:50

And they made all that money by never breaking a sweat in the office. They are magical people, they are worthy of running this country.

 
 
Comment by phony scandals
2015-05-17 08:31:29

Chip off the old block

Al Sharpton’s daughter sues city for $5M after spraining ankle

By Kathianne Boniello
May 17, 2015 | 12:20am

She learned at the feet of a master.

Shakedown artist Al Sharpton’s eldest child wants $5 million from city taxpayers after she fell in the street and sprained her ankle, court rec­ords show.

Dominique Sharpton, 28, says she was “severely injured, bruised and wounded” when she stumbled over uneven pavement at the corner of Broome Street and Broadway downtown last year, according to a lawsuit.

Currently on vacation in Bali, the membership director for her gadfly dad’s National Action Network claims she “still suffers and will continue to suffer for some time physical pain and bodily injuries,” according to the suit filed against the city departments of Transportation and Environmental Protection.

“I sprained my ankle real bad lol,” she wrote in a post to Instagram after the Oct. 2 fall.

http://nypost.com/2015/05/17/al-sharptons-daughter-sues-city-for-5m-after-spraining-ankle/

Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-05-17 08:39:34

I wonder how many mugging or “knockout game” victims can sue urban municipalities for failing to provide security, or sue shakedown artists like Al Sharpton for stirring up racial tensions.

 
Comment by rms
2015-05-17 09:15:15

“Shakedown artist Al Sharpton’s eldest child wants $5 million from city taxpayers after she fell in the street and sprained her ankle, court rec­ords show.”

Gimme an N…

Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-05-17 09:20:18

I don’t doubt that a “jury of her peers” will be happy to award her the payout to stick it to The Man.

 
 
 
Comment by butters
2015-05-17 10:41:54

Hope she wins.

Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-05-17 10:46:45

The apple didn’t fall far from the tree on that one. If every “victim” of not watching where they’re going is allowed to sue to city for multimillion dollar damages, awarded by a “jury of their peers,” these already insolvent Democrat-run urban centers are going to be circling the drain even faster.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3085287/Al-Sharpton-s-daughter-sues-New-York-5-million-sprained-ankle.html

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-17 12:58:12

Why? Seems like it would set a very bad precedent…

Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-05-17 13:56:03

Bailing out a bunch of reckless, greedy banksters with taxpayer money in 2008 set a bad precedent too, but it happened anyway. And will happen again in the not-too-distant future.

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Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-17 12:56:57

Did “the street” somehow trip her?

 
 
Comment by X-GSfixr
2015-05-17 08:41:25

Zero Hedge has commentary this morning that blames Keynesian Economics for the scarcity of full time jobs and no pay raises.

Strange……….around here, nobody is getting decent jobs or pay raises either, and it is because the 1%ers LIKE it this way. And none of them are Keynesian.

Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-05-17 08:51:31

The .1% are making bank, because they can count on the stupidity and docility of the sheeple, especially the 95% who vote for oligarch annointed candidates like Obama, McCain, Romney, or HillaryJeb, to ensure the crony capitalist status quo. The oligarch-owned MSM has conditioned them well.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-17/what-keynesian-success-looks-soaring-part-time-jobs-record-low-real-wages

 
Comment by azdude
2015-05-17 08:54:35

demand is collapsing cause inflation has created high prices.

If you want to sell stuff lower the price.

Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-05-17 09:06:51

Prolly more accurate to say demand is collapsing because the record number of ‘Muricans (93 million plus) who are “no longer in the labor force” (despite the fake BLS unemployment figures) can’t afford to spend much of their meager income or dwindling savings.

Welcome to the Obama-Fed-Goldman Sachs economic “recovery” that has massively enriched Wall Street at the expense of Main Street.

 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-05-17 09:11:01

I’m picking up a lot more stuff at yard sales, garage sales, and on Craigslist or E-Bay. People are starting to divest themselves of stuff they’ve accumulated and no longer need, or their changed economic circumstances are dictating that they downsize.

 
 
Comment by butters
2015-05-17 10:44:53

1%ers are not capitalists. They are more keynsians or mercanlists.

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-17 09:05:28

What is the dangerous flaw at the heart of the world economy?

Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-05-17 09:09:19

The geo-political situation is liking more and more dicey, with the Ukraine situation festering, an increasingly assertive and belicose China, and radical Islam gaining ground across the Middle East and North Africa. Add in the increasing inequality in the western economies due to neo-liberalism and crony capitalism, and we may be in for a hot summer.

Comment by azdude
2015-05-17 09:21:37

currency debasement everyone is trying to print money to solve problems.

Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-05-17 11:02:50
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Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-17 13:04:35

That’s apparently an expedient escape path from unrepayable debt, if you can manage to get away with it.

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Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-17 13:02:19

It’s the mortgage interest deduction and similar sacrosanct programs that provide massive subsidies for debt financed investment.

At least according to the writers at The Economist magazine, that is.

Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-17 13:03:19

Tax-free debt
The great distortion
Subsidies that make borrowing irresistible need to be phased out
May 16th 2015 | From the print edition
Timekeeper

THE way that black holes bend light’s path through space cannot be smoothed out by human ingenuity. By contrast, a vast distortion in the world economy is wholly man-made. It is the subsidy that governments give to debt. Half the rich world’s governments allow their citizens to deduct the interest payments on mortgages from their taxable income; almost all countries allow firms to write off payments on their borrowing against taxable earnings. It sounds prosaic, but the cost—and the harm—is immense.

In 2007, before the financial crisis led to the slashing of interest rates, the annual value of the forgone tax revenues in Europe was around 3% of GDP—or $510 billion—and in America almost 5% of GDP—or $725 billion (see Briefing). That means governments on both sides of the Atlantic were spending more on cheapening the cost of debt than on defence. Even today, with interest rates close to zero, America’s debt subsidies cost the federal government over 2% of GDP—as much as it spends on all its policies to help the poor.

This hardly begins to capture the full damage, which is aggravated by the behaviour the tax breaks encourage. People borrow more to buy property than they otherwise would, raising house prices and encouraging over-investment in real estate instead of in assets that create wealth. The tax benefits are largely reaped by the rich, worsening inequality. Corporate financial decisions are motivated by maximising the tax relief on debt instead of the needs of the underlying business.

Debt has many wonderful qualities—allowing firms to invest and individuals to benefit today from tomorrow’s income. But the tax subsidies have tilted the economy in a woeful direction. They have created a financial system that is prone to crises and biased against productive investment; they have reduced economic growth and worsened inequality. They are a man-made distortion and they need to be fixed.

Debt and taxes, life’s certainties

Start with the fragility. Economies biased towards debt are more prone to crises, because debt imposes a rigid obligation to repay on vulnerable borrowers, whereas equity is expressly designed to spread losses onto investors. Firms without significant equity buffers are more likely to go broke, banks more likely to topple (see Free Exchange). The dotcom crash in 2000-02 caused losses to shareholdersworth $4 trillion and a mild recession. Leveraged global banks notched up losses of $2 trillion in 2007-10 and the world economy imploded. Financial regulators have already gone some way to redressing the balance from debt by forcing the banks to fund themselves with more equity. But the bias remains—in large part because of the subsidy for debt. Under a more neutral tax system, firms would sell more equity and carry less debt. Investors would have to get used to greater volatility; but as equity buffers got thicker, shareholders would be taking less risk.

A neutral tax system would also lead to more efficient choices by savers and lenders. Today 60% of bank lending in rich countries is for mortgages. Without a tax break, people would borrow less to buy houses and banks would lend less against property. Investment in new ideas and businesses that enhance productivity would become relatively more attractive, in turn boosting economic growth.

Removing the advantages that debt enjoys would also lead to a fairer system. Relief on mortgage payments is a subsidy that flows to people who need it least: studies show that the richest 20% of American households by income gain the most. Mortgages would become costlier. But new instruments would emerge to allow individuals to bridge the gap between current savings and future income that debt alone now closes—for example, shared-equity mortgages that divide the gains and losses from house-price movements between banks and homeowners.

Lenders and borrowers

If the arguments for getting rid of the debt distortion are overwhelming, the path to its elimination could hardly be more rocky. Politicians do not much like changes that will lower house prices. There is a big co-ordination problem: tax is a matter for national governments, and few countries will be prepared unilaterally to withdraw subsidies that might make them less appealing to footloose companies. In addition, vested interests will bleat loudly. Businesses that depend heavily on debt—banks, private-equity firms and the like—will be ready to spend some of the billions they gain from the tax subsidy on lobbying to defend it.

This argues for a staged approach. The place to start is the subsidies on residential mortgages. Not only do these subsidies increase financial fragility, they fail to achieve their purported goal of promoting home-ownership. The shares of people owning their own homes in America and Switzerland, two countries with vast subsidies, are 65% and 44% respectively—no more than in other advanced economies like Britain and Canada that offer no tax break. The wisest step would be to phase out tax relief gradually, as Britain did in the 1990s.

 
 
 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-05-17 09:34:43

Looks like Iran has it’s own problems with the antics of the entitled spawn of the .1-percenters.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/iran-blog/2015/may/15/irans-unequal-revolution-income-disparity

Comment by azdude
2015-05-17 11:09:55

“The script for insiders distributing (selling) shares to greater fools hasn’t changed in decades. First, juice the market higher with some big orders, then sell into that buying until the market weakens. Reverse the downtrend with another big order, and then resume selling.
This process is even easier in the current era of high-frequency trading and machines executing most of the trades. A few big buy orders is all that’s needed to trigger more buy orders from the trading bots, which are essentially trend-followers, and the smart money can sell into that automated buying.”

“If fundamentals like profits and sales no longer matter, then all that’s left is faith that central banks will never let stock markets fall ever again. Never, ever; that is of course the language of fairy tales. ”

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-17/chart-healthy-stock-market

Exactly what readers have been talking about for a long time here isnt it?

 
 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-05-17 10:35:08

While 95% of the electorate will go along with whatever rip-offs the .1% and their political elites foist on the 99%, that tiny minority of thinking people is pushing back mightily, and with some effect.

http://wolfstreet.com/2015/05/17/global-trade-corporatocracy-slams-into-local-resistance/

 
Comment by azdude
2015-05-17 11:04:29

A house being listed at close to 300k went pending in like 3 days. No one seems to concerned with depreciation around here. They want in on some free equity.

Comment by Blue Skye
2015-05-17 12:25:27

Debt Donkeys love company.

 
 
Comment by Combotechie
2015-05-17 11:04:37

I ran across this video:

“France’s Reckoning: Rich, Young Flee Welfare State”

http://www.cbn.com/tv/3255110732001

Run time = 4 1/2 minutes.

Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-05-17 11:27:08

Anyone with any ambition to be a producer is going to flee from the welfare state, rather than have the fruits of their labor be stolen from them by governments installed by the takers.

 
Comment by measton
2015-05-17 12:03:21

except France and Europe have always been generous in terms of welfare. What’s changed is the flood of migrants who now claim more and more of this welfare yet don’t share the same values as the natives.

Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-05-17 13:58:17

The “natives” have consistently voted for socialist and “center-right” (read: crony capitalist) administrations, proving they are devoid of values as well as sense. Much like our own electorate.

 
 
Comment by Oddfellow
2015-05-17 16:56:35

“I ran across this video”

On the Christian Broadcasting Network? That’s Pat Robertson’s operation, right?

Is that where you get your global warming science too?

Comment by Housing Analyst
2015-05-17 17:00:04

Hey Lola. Hows your webcam shows going. Profitable?

 
Comment by Blue Skye
2015-05-17 18:50:23

Pat Robertson has a pretty large consensus.

 
 
 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-05-17 11:25:31
 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-05-17 11:37:42

Greece’s financial reckoning day keeps drawing closer, despite the ever-more creative accounting and wealth extraction schemes the “radical-left” government conjures up. Watch and learn, California and every Democrat-run municipality in the country.

http://news.yahoo.com/greece-warned-cash-shortage-ahead-deadline-report-175117969.html

Comment by measton
2015-05-17 12:12:01

LOS ANGELES — Ever since he came into office, Gov. Jerry Brown has promised to address what he has long called the state’s “wall of debt” built up over years. And now that the nation’s most populous state is looking at a multibillion-dollar surplus, Mr. Brown, in a $155 billion state budget proposal submitted on Thursday, is pledging to make good on that promise.

vs

Brownback’s economic experiment – slash tax rates more than the state can afford and watch a miracle unfold – has failed miserably on every possible front. We recently learned that the state’s bond rating was downgraded in part due to these reckless tax breaks, and today, Kansas suffered another downgrade.

Kansas’s credit rating was reduced by Standard & Poor’s, which cited the effects of income-tax cuts endorsed by Republican Governor Sam Brownback that weren’t matched by less spending.

The rating fell to AA, third-highest, from AA+ and the state’s appropriation-secured debt was dropped to AA- from AA, S&P said today. The outlook on both ratings is negative.

“The negative outlook reflects our belief that there will be additional budget pressure as income tax cuts scheduled in future years go into effect, or if midyear revenue shortfalls resume,” credit analyst David Hitchcock said.

 
Comment by Mr. Banker
2015-05-17 12:14:04

“Greece’s financial reckoning day keeps drawing closer …”

… and closer and closer and closer … but it never seems to arrive.

Comment by butters
2015-05-17 15:25:50

never will.

 
 
Comment by measton
2015-05-17 12:16:06

YEs let’s compare California’s surplus to Kansas.

Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-17 13:10:22

The Republicans perversely have the reputation of the party of fiscal conservatism, despite their poor track record. This is perhaps why the story of a Democratic governor running a surplus versus a Republican governor with a massive deficit seems interesting.

I believe Clinton I versus his immediate predecessors had a similar success story.

Comment by measton
2015-05-17 13:21:40

Professor

You better hide your name or Harol Ham will have you removed from your job, and if you live in Kansas they are pushing a bill that would make it illegal for you to use the title you’ve earned when posting opinions in news papers or online. Ask Professor Chapman Rackaway

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Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-17 13:50:23

Believe it or not, Professor Bear is a nom de plume.

 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-05-17 14:06:48

The “conservative” (read: oligarch-controlled) administration of UK Prime Minister David Cameron is pushing new “counter-extremism” laws that are Orwellian in their intent and scope, since the definition of “extremist” can readibly be broadened to apply to just about anyone who “interferes with the functioning of democracy.” By telling the truth about who’s interests the government is really serving, is one possible interpretation of the new laws noted by critics on the left.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/may/13/counter-terrorism-bill-extremism-disruption-orders-david-cameron

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Jeff upstate SC
2015-05-17 11:53:25

We recently went to a timeshare “presentation” .For $390. per mo. for 120 payments ,plus $1300. per year maintenance fee ,one supposedly got a weeks worth of “vacation”. I think we were the only ones of 5 couples that did not sign on to it..What is wrong with people that fall for that sleazy pitch ? especially if you can buy these things online for $1 or so ,plus fees….And oh ,the promised loot is almost totally trash, 2 day getaways with a lot of fine print etc…

Comment by Mr. Banker
2015-05-17 12:11:47

“What is wrong with people that fall for that sleazy pitch ?”

Wrong? There’s nuthin’ wrong here. What you witnessed was a work of art.

Work of Art 101: There are but two steps:

1. Dumb ‘em down.

2. Profit.

 
Comment by azdude
2015-05-17 12:56:51

Best thing u ever did dude. I went to one of those scams in scottsdale az about 10 years ago. Biggest sleaze bags I have ever seen. My girlfriend at the time wanted to buy. I had to talk her and the salesman off. Then they tried to intimidate me with some meatheads. Got a free steak dinner to mortons out of it.

They will raise the maintenance fees every year and make your timeshare worthless.

my friend had one in lake tahoe and he could not give it away after paying 17000 for it.

It is a true scam.

Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-05-17 14:10:43

When I was in High School I worked at a midwestern resort, which shall remain nameless, where they had timeshares. The salesmen (and women - the latter being even more unscrupulous than the guys) would get together in the dining room after their sales and gloat about how badly they’d screwed over the marks who bought the time shares. It made quite an impression on me.

I can imagine certain oligarch-backed candidates laughing in smokey back rooms with their oligarch benefactors about how the rubes swallowed vapid slogans like “Hope and change we can believe in” and bought a bill of goods, too.

 
Comment by Dman
2015-05-17 14:40:03

17 or 20k would pay for a lot of hotel rooms in areas a lot less boring than Scottsdale.

Comment by azdude
2015-05-17 15:33:12

thats what my buddy said about his timeshare. The maintenance fees got so high that you could rent a motel room cheaper.

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Comment by redmondjp
2015-05-18 15:36:07

Yup. Wife and I went to several of these presentations (some in places like Orlando, at you-know-where park, and also in Vegas, with promise of free steak dinners, etc).

The thing that struck me - no matter what physical place your time-share was at, it was always touted as extra-desirable to the point that you could trade your week in ____ for two weeks anywhere else that you wanted to go! Heard this about Orlando, Vegas, and of course Hawaii . . .

Those $500-600/year maintenance fees always scared me too, as you know they are only going to go higher.

 
 
 
 
Comment by rms
2015-05-17 15:21:28

“We recently went to a timeshare “presentation” .”

Curious… were they serving adult beverages?

 
 
Comment by measton
2015-05-17 12:22:17

More stories from the small Gov party

JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. (AP) — Alarmed about cities trying to outlaw plastic bags, the director of the Missouri Grocers Association decided to do something about it. So Dan Shaul turned to his state legislator— himself — and guided a bill to passage barring local governments from banning the bags.

Comment by Oddfellow
2015-05-17 12:31:33

The big guys are for local governance when they can control it, against it when they can’t.

 
Comment by butters
2015-05-17 15:04:08

Shouldn’t the Soros funded trolls be criticizing a slighly larger issue like, TPP? Is it too painful to criticize another fellow progressive?

Comment by measton
2015-05-17 20:03:17

Happy to

The corporatist in chief is pushing a bill supported by the GOP that will give corporations and the elite control over nation states that makes this issue I posted look trivial. We can vote in who we want, pass laws if we like, but if those laws limit corporate profits you can expect them to be overturned in a court of globalists. It will continue to drive down wages.

The US has a mountain of natural resources, we had a lot of manufacturing, and we still have a lot of science and engineering. There is no reason we should have free trade with countries that are non democratic military dictatorships.

 
 
Comment by Blue Skye
2015-05-17 18:46:17

It’s the one thing our disposal company has not figured out how to recycle.

 
 
Comment by phony scandals
2015-05-17 12:31:12

You Should Be Angry About Jade Helm Even If You’re Not Crazy

5/13/15 2:34pm

The bullet holes punched into the center mass of this pistol-packing suburban soccer mom weren’t fired by ISIS terrorists preparing for a shopping-mall assault, or by local cops training against an active shooter at the local school. They were fired by a Marine during special operations “realistic military training,” or RMT, in Gulfport, Mississippi.

The training was called Raven 15-03, and took place at locations across the Gulf Coast of United States in February in order to give the 3rd Marine Special Operations Battalion a chance to practice “helicopter-borne and vessel-borne insertion, breaching techniques, fast-roping, and close-quarters battle techniques” in “populated environments,” according to a Marine Corps press release. The release didn’t address the details of the “realistic” scenario dreamed up by the Marine Special Operations Command that involved gunning down a married civilian woman with a recent manicure.

Realistic military training in which military forces leave their bases and practice how to kill people out in the real world are a relatively recent phenomenon. One such exercise of this group, Jade Helm, has been seized on recently by right-wing paranoids who suspect that Barack Obama is using it to rehearse an invasion of Texas. But here’s the thing: They’re not altogether wrong.

What knucklehead decided that for Raven 15-03, an appropriate shooting target should be a soccer mom! And who decided that, despite owning 31 million acres—48,000 square miles—the military now needs to skulk around off-base because it would be more realistic to operate amongst the “civilian population,” also known as America?

No one decided. It just happened. And then the shit hit the fan. And that is good.

Forget the Texas governor and the Tea Party and the tin-foil hat crowd and how America has strayed from some imaginary harmonious and bipartisan past. Spare me the polite talk about elevating the debate, and the sage commentators dampening concerns about the truth behind Jade Helm. The American people are not ignorant. It’s not martial law, and it’s not the Obama Administration, but there is something going on, and it is out of control. Who is the U.S. military aiming its guns at, and why? It’s that pure and simple.

Oh and by the way, the target is “Handgun Threat 9” from a government and police contractor called Target Online. They offer 169 different silhouettes to choose from; only 30 cents each when purchased in bulk. Zombie targets are available too.

Someone in the bureaucracy decided to buy this particular target for the Raven exercise; someone approved it, and then the purchase was made with our tax dollars. And then the moms were delivered and put on stakes and dozens (hundreds) of Marines looked at them and—what? They probably giggled…and then shot at them anyway. And then an official military photographer took pictures of the training and then a military officer approved the photo “for public release” and then the picture went from the Marine Corps up the chain of command to the official Defense Video and Imagery Distribution System (DVIDS).

http://phasezero.gawker.com/you-should-be-angry-about-jade-helm-even-if-youre-not-c-1704140447

 
Comment by butters
2015-05-17 15:15:14

‘Murka, yuck yeah!

9 dead in biker shooting in neocons’ favorite state of TX.

Comment by In Colorado
2015-05-17 17:01:54

I thought that if everyone was armed that wasn’t supposed to happen, that everyone would be “polite” or something like that.

Comment by phony scandals
2015-05-17 19:49:19

“I thought that if everyone was armed that wasn’t supposed to happen, that everyone would be “polite” or something like that.”

Nine motorcycle gang members were killed and numerous other people were injured in a confrontation involving up to 200 rival gang members — followed by a shootout with police — at a sports bar in Waco, Texas, that wanted the bikers there, police said Sunday.

Waco police Sgt. Patrick Swanton said “at least five different criminal motorcycle gangs” were at Twin Peaks Sports Bar and Grill, in the busy Central Texas Market Place less than a half-mile from University High School.

“It progressed very rapidly from hands and feet as weapons to chains,” he said. “My understanding is a club was involved, and knives were involved. Gunfire broke out on the part of the criminal biker gangs.”

Police, who had been expecting trouble, had been already deployed to the scene, which Swanton described as part recruiting event and partly gang members showing they were unafraid in other gangs’ territory. So when the rumble began shortly after noon 12:15 p.m. (1:15 p.m. ET), they were ready to move in.

The violence spilled out of the restaurant and into the parking lot, where, Swanton said, the bikers fired first at one another and then at the police.

“They started have shooting at our officers, and our officers returned fire, taking several of them down,” Swanton said. “I’m amazed at the number of rounds fired. I’m amazed we did not have innocent civilians killed or injured.”

Biker Battle Leaves at Least Nine Dead in Waco, Texas
NBC News

Swanton said that the gunplay was over in a “matter of seconds” and that a SWAT officer told him, “It was mass chaos.”

“Never had he seen anything like that,” Swanton said.

Eight people were killed at the scene, and a ninth died at a hospital, Swanton said, adding that 18 people were taken to hospitals with gunshot and knife wounds, some with both.

He said probably near 100 weapons — including brass knuckles, chains, clubs and firearms — were strewn across the crime scene.

Swanton refused to name the bikers gangs involved, saying he wouldn’t give “name recognition” to “criminal organizations.”

 
 
Comment by phony scandals
2015-05-17 17:12:34

Do You Know How Many Murders There Have Been In Baltimore Since Freddie Gray Slipped Into A Coma?

Written by Red Dawn
Sunday, 05/10/2015 - 10:07 am EST

Freddie Gray was arrested on April 12th and died 10 days later from a severe spinal injury.

Meanwhile, 26 other deaths have occurred within Baltimore’s city limits since April 9th, and there have been approximately 82 homicides so far this year.

The Daily Caller reports–

Yogesh Sheth, the manager of Mini Market Deli and Grocery, was shot when three masked men robbed his store on May 1. He agreed to step out from behind the bullet-proof glass because the men had taken a hostage at gunpoint. He was opening a door. It got jammed. One of them men then shot Sheth once in the head and three times in the chest, according to local ABC affiliate WMAR.

And then there was this–

The body of Nicole Torain, 34, was discovered in a trash incinerator on April 22. The cause of her death is unknown, but police have ruled it a homicide.

All the rest of Baltimore’s 26 murders in the last 30 days have resulted from shootings.

Nine shootings occurred on May 8th alone.

Where’s the outrage? Where are the rioters? What about Black Lives Matter?

The truth is, the left only pounces on cases that they believe can help them advance their own agenda. How sick is that– picking through tragedies to figure out which ones will help them drive their racist police narrative.

Comment by Skroodle
2015-05-17 18:20:08

Dang those Baltimore police are on a tear!

 
 
 
Comment by azdude
2015-05-17 15:34:13

Cars go out of style but a house stands the test of time.

Comment by Bill, just south of Irvine
2015-05-17 18:49:02

Unless your city counsel rezones your nabe as “Section 8 multiple unit housing okay” - it’s been done before.

 
 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2015-05-17 16:54:47

Why buy a depreciating asset like a house when you can rent it for half the monthly cost?

Napa County, CA Sale Prices Plunge 12% YoY

http://www.zillow.com/napa-county-ca/home-values/

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-17 16:57:42

Is Greece literally on the verge of default?

And would a default be tantamount to a Grexit, or will some kind of bailout or forbearance serve to keep them in the eurozone?

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2015-05-17 16:59:45

Leaked IMF memo: Greece on the verge of default
Sun, May 17 2015, 21:09 GMT | FXStreet

FXStreet (Bali) - A leaked IMF memo on Greece suggests there is virtually no chances of the Hellenic country to meet its debt obligations during the summer period, with European negotiators short of time to come to terms for an agreement with Greece before its next re-payment to the IMF on 5 June, with high risks of being missed, according to the memo.

In the memo dated 14 May, it reads: ““There will be no possibility for the Greek authorities to repay the whole amount unless an agreement is reached with international partners.”

While the IMF memo highlights some progress has been made recently in the tense negotiations between Greece and its lenders, on VAT reform, tax collection and regulations, the time is pressing and the Euro summit in Riga this coming week will be one of the last opportunities to strike a deal that may avert a Greek default on the IMF.

One of the key passages in the IMF document notes, “it was made clear that no disbursement will be made until a full staff level agreement on a comprehensive review is reached”, adding that “while staff emphasised they are not pushing the European partners to consider debt relief, at the same time staff noted the numbers need to add up. In particular it was noted there is an inverse relationship between reforms and sustainability.”

Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-05-17 19:50:15

A “leaked” memo, huh? This whole Greek Kabuki theater has grown so farsical and stage-managed that it makes a WWF match look almost unscripted and bona-fide. There can be only one outcome: more can-kicking, or the banksters’ Ponzi is going to implode. And we can’t have that.

 
 
Comment by phony scandals
2015-05-17 20:15:54

Want a Green Card? Invest in Real Estate

By JULIE SATOWMAY 15, 2015

Yi Lin and his wife, Molly Xi, in their new home in Manhattan. Under a federal program known as EB-5, they received green cards in exchange for their investment in a Miami real estate project. Credit Sam Hodgson for The New York Times

Like many of her fellow classmates at New York University, Yanchu Zhao has a busy schedule. A college junior, she has a double major in economics and journalism, and juggles classes, an internship and life with roommates in a rental near Herald Square.

But unlike many of her fellow classmates, Ms. Zhao came to the United States on a student visa. “A lot of students talked about how hard it was to get a job in New York and in the United States,” she said. “My parents heard that if I can get a green card, it would be easier for me to succeed.”

So two years ago, Ms. Zhao’s parents invested $500,000 in a hotel project on Bryant Park, knowing that their investment could be parlayed into green cards for the family. Three months ago, their paperwork came through and the Zhaos became permanent residents of the United States.

While Ms. Zhao’s father has remained in Beijing, her mother joined her in the United States and is now renting a studio on Roosevelt Island and studying English. Investing in real estate projects in exchange for legal immigration status has become big business in New York City. Through a federal visa program known as EB-5, foreigners, more than 80 percent of them from China, are investing billions of dollars in hotels, condominiums, office towers and public/private works in the hope it will result in green cards. Twelve-hundred foreigners have poured $600 million into projects at Hudson Yards; 1,154 have invested $577 million in Pacific Park Brooklyn, the development formerly known as Atlantic Yards; and 500 have put $250 million into the Four Seasons hotel and condominium in the financial district. The list of projects involving EB-5 investments also includes the International Gem Tower on West 47th Street and the New York Wheel on Staten Island.

Under the federal program, a foreigner who invests $500,000 — and in some instances, $1 million — in a project that will create at least 10 jobs can apply for a green card. It generally takes from 22 to 26 months to obtain legal residency through the program, as opposed to several years for other visa programs.

Comment by redmondjp
2015-05-18 15:38:47

This is all the rage on the Left Coast as well . . .

 
 
Comment by phony scandals
2015-05-18 07:15:06

scandals

 
Comment by phony scandals
2015-05-18 16:26:36

phony scandals

 
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