September 21, 2015

It’s Now Driven By Sellers Not Wanting To Miss Out

The Guardian reports on Norway. “The collapse in the oil price has hit Norway’s economy. Around 50% of Norway’s export income comes from oil, which accounts for 20% of investment. The effect on Stavanger, Norway’s fourth largest city, has been pronounced. One in three jobs, around 43,000, are directly or indirectly related to oil and gas in the area. Thousands of jobs have already been lost, and house prices are sliding – only 16 properties were sold in the city this summer, according to a housing market survey by Samfunnsøkonomisk Analyse.”

“Norway’s investment in oil and gas will decline by more than 30% over the next two years, according to Øystein Dørum, chief economist at DNB Markets, a financial services group. ‘This will provide a skewed hit to the Norwegian economy – we expect to see a much weaker development in labour and housing markets in western Norway, particularly in Stavanger. But we do not predict a decline in the economy overall,’ Dørum said.”

Bloomberg on Australia. “A home-building frenzy that is shoring up Australia’s economy as the mining boom ends may also be what finally takes the steam out of one of the world’s most expensive property markets. The case in point: Green Square. Nearly 10,000 apartments will be built in one of Sydney’s newest suburbs in the next four years to satisfy investor demand. ‘There is a tsunami of home supply coming,’ said Nigel Stapledon, head of real estate research at the University of New South Wales Business School. ‘The market is going to be tested in accepting this sort of supply. It’s not like there is economic growth to support it. Income growth has gone from boom time to the lowest in a number of years and population growth has eased back.’”

Domain in Australia. “Property prices in parts of Sydney are starting to fall after unprecedented intervention by regulators and a wave of spring listings flooding the market. Experts say a market previously driven by buyers not wanting to miss out has been turned on its head: it’s now driven by sellers not wanting to miss out on the peak of the market. ‘We’re getting a quite extraordinary number of listings, significantly higher than we’ve had at this time of year before,’ says Dr Andrew Wilson, senior economist of the Domain Group.”

The Daily Telegraph in Australia. “They’re in their mid-20s and earn average incomes, yet Emily Sharp and Luke Rogers own 22 homes — 19 purchased in the last year alone. The Sydney couple’s $3 million property portfolio includes homes in Sydney, the Blue Mountains, Central Coast and Queensland, which they’ve purchased mostly over the past 12 months despite one of the biggest price booms in history. Ms Sharp, 25, and Mr Rogers, 24, purchased their homes with no financial help from friends or family and have relied instead on a clever home buying strategy and savings from their salaries — she works a graduate position in marketing, he works in the army.”

“The tactics they’ve used to purchase nine times as many homes in a year as the average Aussie will own in a lifetime may seem complicated, but anyone can do the same, Mr Rogers said. ‘The trick is to have equity in the home the day you purchase it. You then take out that equity to buy your next properties,’ he said.”

The Wall Street Journal on China. “China watchers were cheered this week when new economic data showing housing sales are continuing to rise. But those who watch the vital sector closely look at another statistic: sales of land by local government to property developers. Sluggish numbers there suggest the cheering may be premature. The volume of land sales nationwide fell 32.1% to 141.1 million square meters in the first eight months this year, according to the latest data issued by the National Bureau of Statistics. In August alone, land transaction volume was down 32% from a year earlier.”

“‘In August, many cities released land for sale, but it became local governments’ one-man show as many sites went unsold during auctions,’ said property consultancy China Real Estate Information Corp in a note.”

“Apart from high inventories, another factor holding developers back is the absence of a meaningful drop in land prices. In Huizhou, a third-tier city in southern China’s Guangdong province, at least four plots of residential land in the Huicheng district have failed to sell in three auctions in the past two years. Local officials kept the reserve prices for the four plots of land at a total of 316.5 million yuan during the last two auctions held last month and in December 2014.”

The Province in Canada. “Julia Lau rapidly climbed to the top in Vancouver real estate, tapping her deep pool of Mainland China buyers. Coming from Hong Kong, Lau started selling Vancouver homes in 2005. In 2008 she earned just under $400,000 in commissions. In 2009 she claimed $689,064 in annual income, putting her in the top one per cent of Metro Vancouver realtors. In the next few years, as investment from China surged, Lau’s sales reportedly accelerated to about 100 luxury homes per year.”

“In her Granville Street home she kept signifcant amounts of cash in a closet safe-vault standing between racks of designer jackets. But quietly in 2015, The Province has learned, Lau voluntarily forfeited her realtor’s licence — permanently — instead of going through a disciplinary hearing with the Real Estate Council of British Columbia. Of all cases examined by The Province, the most bizarre, detailed and complex is Lau’s failed challenge against Canada’s anti-money-laundering officials.”

“In early 2012 Lau told The Province she expected to sell about 10 luxury homes per month from January to May, which would be a slower pace of sales than she achieved in 2011. Lau said her clients were wealthy Chinese businessmen. ‘In Chinese culture we buy one home for living in and a few for investments,’ Lau said in 2012, adding the risk of rising interest rates was not a factor for her buyers. ‘Most of my clients buy in cash, so they don’t need the bank.’”




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Comment by Jingle Male
2015-09-21 04:50:02

“They’re in their mid-20s and earn average incomes, yet Emily Sharp and Luke Rogers own 22 homes — 19 purchased in the last year alone.”

Emily & Luke, meet your poster child: Casey Serin.

I hope your debt is non-recours or your bankruptcy laws are liberal!

Comment by Ben Jones
2015-09-21 05:51:27

‘Any homes the couple now purchase must meet three criteria: the home must be in an area where prices are about to go up fast’

There ya’ go! And if they don’t?

Comment by rms
2015-09-21 06:01:03

“…he works in the army.”

I’m certain his wages will go up fast.

 
Comment by rms
2015-09-21 06:05:11

“…the couple have agreed to forgo luxuries…”

She gets her hair teased; color too.

 
 
Comment by snake charmer
2015-09-21 07:37:27

I was going to say. In this country, people like this couple were celebrated as geniuses ten years ago. Risk-takers. Entrepreneurs. It’s different this time, right Australia?

Purchasing 19 houses at the market peak is gold-medal stupid. Lending money for those purchases is even stupider, but all Western bankers know that a public bailout will be the response to their private poor judgment or even willful crimes.

Comment by Ben Jones
2015-09-21 07:54:17

‘Speaking to Parliament’s economics committee, Reserve Bank governor Glenn Stevens said the authorities appeared to have had some success in restraining the growth of loans to buy investment properties.’

‘Once tiny as a proportion of total loans, lending to investors has eclipsed lending to owner-occupiers in recent months feeding concern about investor-driven “bubbles” in Sydney and Melbourne. Mr Stevens said the flow of new lending to investors was “not continuing to increase the way it was”.

“I should add that it turns out that there have been some material concerns about the quality of data,” he said. “It turns out that there was a lot more investor lending than we all knew in the past. That having been said I think the evidence is starting to emerge that the very strong upward trend in approvals for lending for investors has not really gone up any further for quite some time now.”

‘Measures taken by the banks in response to pressure from the Australian Prudential Regulation Authority have pushed up the price of borrowing for investment properties and increased the collateral required.’

“I predict we will now see a number of people who used to call themselves investors are going to call themselves owner-occupiers,” Mr Stevens said. “That will lead to some interesting dynamics.”

“We negotiated the financial crisis without a major financial crisis of our own, or a big downturn in economic activity. We negotiated the first two phases of the resources boom without major inflationary problems, and we are part-way through our adjustment to the third phase, so far without a major slump in overall economic activity.”

“There is still, I think, a pretty good chance that we are going to come out of this episode fairly well,” he said.’

‘That will lead to some interesting dynamics’

Click!

Comment by snake charmer
2015-09-21 09:32:33

You get the feeling that all central bankers are reading from the same script. Didn’t Yellen make a number of references last week to “the data”? The best data, and often the most subversive to the status quo, is right in front of your face.

Also, someone in Parliament should tell Mr. Stevens that resources booms –indeed, all booms — have a bust phase. I’m guessing that didn’t happen because it’s not politically acceptable to say it.

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Comment by Professor Bear
2015-09-21 18:53:16

Shouldn’t central bankers worry about the systemic risk intrinsic to all this lending to fly-by-night investors whose sole motivation is to ride the Echo Bubble to its peak, then dump and run?

The recent problems with margin lending to Chinese stock market investors provide a related cautionary lesson in experience’s Dear School for Fools:

- Initially the lending to investors leads to a tail - chasing swell in demand, as buyers willing and able to pay in excess of fundamental value flood into the market, over bidding end users.

- The resulting runup in price leads to a flood of new debt-funded investor-buyers into the market. Since prices are steadily rising, the colateral value is sure to exceed the loan amount at this stage of the bubble in case of default.

- Once bubble prices are stretched beyond the breaking point, prices stop rising, and some investors tiptoe out the exit.

- Flat prices along the permanently high plateau encourages further drop in demand due to the reduction in expected future capital gains. Soon yesterday’s investor demand morphs into today’s attempt by many to cash out first.

- Those who can’t or won’t cash out soon find themselves hopelessly and haplessly underwater on the amount owed to the bank, much like millions of Chinese stock market investors right about now.

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Comment by Ben Jones
2015-09-21 05:09:22

I wanted to make sure some posters here got to see this exchange from yesterday:

‘Comment by inchbyinch
2015-09-20 19:08:36

scdave
mafia is a broken record. mafia is a troll. We have a paid off from day one home, with $550 mo accruals, bought at a low in the ongoing bubble, and will most likely make a profit, even factoring in paying for the deferred maintenance items. We fixed up smart (parsimonious).

Our floor plan just sold at $550K and we paid $380 3 years ago. We’ll sell FSBO and save on the listing side.

We like stability as well. A family home is great. Just don’t buy stupid. 35 years later, you have made lots of splendid memories in your home, and will net a nice profit.”

“Comment by Ben Jones
2015-09-20 20:03:11

‘and will most likely make a profit’

Oh. Well so much for the “toe-tag home”. That was a load of hooey all along wasn’t it? I hope all the posters you told these years see this; “oh we’re old, we just want a last place to put a roof over our head.” Just another slo-mo California flipper. And with you there are millions others just waiting to take a few hundred thousand from the greater fool. Well, don’t cash out too late! There’s probably some young family that just wants a house that will still borrow the easy money and put it in your hand.”

Comment by Professor Bear
2015-09-21 06:00:28

I’m meeting with a younger colleague today who for years (well, a decade really) told me she was following my lead on when to buy. She and her husband recently purchased a home in an area that puts them in a location they don’t really like, inland and with a long commute for hubby.

It strikes me as a suboptimal outcome for them, but I don’t really have much positive advice for young families facing down an epic mania: “Just keep the faith for a few more years, and the market is bound to return to normal again.”

I no longer offer such advice, as I realize I am not cut out to be a religious leader.

Comment by cactus
2015-09-21 09:52:50

I no longer offer such advice, as I realize I am not cut out to be a religious leader.”

I also rarely say anything about the RE market. I timed it pretty close but at this point attribute it to luck.

Going to Poway on Business tomorrow drive down and back up in one day yuck.

 
 
Comment by Jingle Male
2015-09-21 07:48:37

Ben, it seems disingenuous of you to chide inch for making a profit. I see very little difference between your buying homes and renting them out for a profit and his buying a home in which to live and selling it for a profit when he moves.

Slow motion flipper?

Slow motion landlord?

If you want people to run a charity, start by renting your homes for free and see how long your investors will appreciate that strategy. It is all for profit.

Comment by Professor Bear
2015-09-21 07:57:06

Ben was simply pointing out the inconsistency between her earlier ckaim that this was a ‘toe-tag house’ and the recent revelation of aprofit motive for owning.

It’s understandable that a real estate investor wouldn’t have a problem with such duplicity.

Comment by Jingle Male
2015-09-21 10:54:09

I don’t see where inch said he/she was selling and either way, people are allowed to change their mind and strategies.

I understand Ben’s objection to inch’s “duplicity”. The duplicity I was pointing out is Ben’s. His group makes a profit on housing too, so why the objection. When Ben’s group sells their investments, I am sure it will be a market value, which will be substantially higher than the purchase price.

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Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-09-21 11:27:00

“I am sure it will be a market value, which will be substantially higher than the purchase price.”

Are you sure about that Jingle_Fraud?

 
Comment by Ben Jones
2015-09-21 12:16:30

Actually it wouldn’t, because I gave up on Phoenix and Tucson when I realized “investors” were driving prices up. I don’t think we’d make a penny selling but it wouldn’t make any difference because how would we get these returns doing anything else?

I got into this business (and that’s what it is, not a gamble) because some REO brokers asked me if I wanted to bid on fixing up foreclosures. I did and got pretty good at bidding the minor stuff. After a couple dozen and being in and around foreclosures every day for years, I thought, I could fix these up for my own company.

I drive prices down, not up. I wasn’t bidding against retail buyers. I targeted houses that couldn’t qualify for loans because of their condition. I then had to estimate what it would take to make them livable and had to bring it in on budget. That’s a skill. Unlike buying a house, moving someone in and waiting for a big windfall after a few years. Which is what Blackstone and that group of speculators is doing.

This matter of motivation is very important, because speculators will behave differently from regular people. They will try to get out when they think the door is closing. They will walk away. It’s just a roll of the dice to them. And the percentage of them in a any given market is key too. Look at what a disaster some of those condo buildings turned into when it was discovered 80 or 90% of them were investors. And all the broke a$$ HOA’s. That this poster is a speculator is noteworthy, because how many out there who are ultimately gambling on house prices just as soon as the music stops? I’d say in California, the number is pretty high. All this frantic over-bidding, paying fantastic sums is what bubble mad speculators do.

 
Comment by Ben Jones
2015-09-21 12:21:51

I left out one thing: speculators will pay any price if they think they can sell it for a lot more later.

 
Comment by redmondjp
2015-09-21 12:43:22

To be fair, I know more than a few “normal people” who have done the exact same thing on their primary residence (paying any price, banking on future appreciation). I just smile and nod.

 
 
 
Comment by Ben Jones
2015-09-21 08:05:48

She lectured us endlessly about her “toe-tag home”, all the while bragging about how she’s done these slow-motion flips three times before. Now she licks her chops at this “nice profit”? Where’s that gonna come from, Mel Watts or from some government backed loan?

What I do for a living is work. I help provide working people a safe, comfortable shelter at a reasonable rate. Nobody is handing me government money.

If you want to know why California is poor, look at these flippers. If you want to know why the banks had to get TARP money, look at these speculators. It is immoral to speculate in a basic human need IMO. And it’s disingenuous to give everybody this “oh, I just want a home to grow old in” when all along she planned to make money on it.

Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-09-21 09:39:17

She’s a fraud engaged in fraud.

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Comment by cactus
2015-09-21 09:47:20

Our floor plan just sold at $550K and we paid $380 3 years ago. We’ll sell FSBO and save on the listing side.”

She probably said this because HA always tells her how much money she will lose when she sells.

I don’t think shes selling now? Not a flipper IMO.

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Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-09-21 09:52:59

The loss is already on the books.

Why would anyone knowingly pay a 250% premium for anything? They wouldn’t of course.

Knowledge.

 
Comment by Blue Skye
2015-09-21 10:00:03

Sure she is a flipper and she is living in the mania. Her original story was bogus. Her story now is bogus. She poured a ton of money into upgrades and now calculates a nice profit without that. A Realtor doing an FSBO is priceless. Assuming that anything she has ever posted was true.

BTW, I am sorry scdave that she tried to identify with you. I think she has nothing in common with you.

 
Comment by scdave
2015-09-21 15:02:20

Maybe not thanks…

I won’t comment on what her motivation was/is but I will say this…I have always felt (and have stated before) that Non-owner occupied purchase of single family homes as rentals should not have access to the government backed lenders…If we are going to make the argument that the government backed programs help people buy their personal residence then it should be limited to just that…I agree with Ben, all the speculation that has occurred in single family purchases has just driven up the cost of new entires into the market…Want to stop the flippers; Just put in a 1 year ownership rule occupied as your personal residence for any government backed loans if you sell…

 
Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-09-21 17:13:15

Let’s just state the truth my friend. Fannie, freddie and FHA are complete failures.

 
 
Comment by Jingle Male
2015-09-21 11:00:08

‘….She lectured us endlessly about her “toe-tag home”…’

I missed all that history. I’ve been swamped at work for about a year now and I have missed a lot of HBB postings.

I also understand the moral objection to the speculator flipping houses. If you are sucking equity out of society based only on rising market values, that is a fools game. I bet 80% of those idiots got buried in 2007-2008.

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Comment by redmondjp
2015-09-21 12:48:46

And I know two people who have just recently tried listing FSBO without success (doing everything right), and both properties sold within a week once they got an agent.

Why? Because buyers’ agents avoid FSBO listings like the plague. So we all know who the agents are looking out for, and it’s not you or me.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2015-09-21 13:56:50

“I bet 80% of those idiots got buried in 2007-2008.”

And I bet 80% of the post-2008 idiots are on track to get buried going forward.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Ben Jones
2015-09-21 05:41:18

From the Bloomberg link:

‘New Home ‘Tsunami’ May Snap Sydney Romance With Exuberant Prices’

‘It will also add to the record 213,000 new home starts across the country amid slowing population and economic growth, prompting Goldman Sachs Group Inc. to warn of a supply glut by 2017.’

Hmmm, a glut in Sydney, one of the most expensive markets in the world. We’ve recently been told of a glut in New York City and London. There’s a glut in many cities in China, in Singapore, Dubai, certainly in India. Now does someone want to tell us about housing shortages again?

Comment by Jingle Male
2015-09-21 08:25:12

O.K. I will take the call. In the Sacramento foothills, everything being built under $500,000 is selling. The rental market is as tight as a drum. It is not like the uber-tight SF market (where it takes 6 months just to find a 2 BD apt for $4,000/month), but there is demand for housing in the foothills.

On the flip side, it is possible to build in 6 directions in the Sacramento valley! By 2017, there may be enough product to have an overhang. It will not be like 2007, but there will likely be no appreciation and possibly some pricing declines.

What is interesting is that that high end ($1M+) market is very soft today. Many houses over a million have been sitting for a very long time. While inventory under $500k is less than 60 days, inventory over $1M is approaching 1-year! The upper end is soft and seeing price reductions. A sinking stock market is not going to help.

Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-09-21 09:49:27

Data Jingle_Fraud….

Sacramento, CA Housing Demand Falls Every Year Since 2009

http://files.zillowstatic.com/research/public/City/City_Turnover_AllHomes.csv

 
 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2015-09-21 05:44:41

‘This will provide a skewed hit to the Norwegian economy – we expect to see a much weaker development in labour and housing markets in western Norway, particularly in Stavanger. But we do not predict a decline in the economy overall,’

They must have a heckuva good containment mechanism in Norway for Stavanger’s oil crash to create no ripple effects.

Comment by rms
2015-09-21 06:12:26

Norway provides many social benefits with their oil revenues, and I’m sure we’ll read about cuts to services eventually. It would be foolish to sell government bonds to provide social benefits… unless it was an election season.

Comment by Ben Jones
2015-09-21 06:31:09

‘When direct flights from northern Europe’s oil capital to the heart of Texas launched a year ago, passengers toasted their booming industry with vintage champagnes.’

‘Since then, however, the oil price has more than halved, gouging a hole in Norway’s economy and forcing the Scandinavian airline SAS to cancel its six flights a week from Stavanger to Houston.’

“As a consequence of reduced activity in the oil industry, SAS has experienced a severe decrease in demand and thus passenger loads on the Stavanger-Houston route. Hence, SAS no longer has sound commercial grounds for continuing this niche route,” the airline said in a statement.’

From flying around drinking vintage champagnes to a severe decrease in demand. Don’t feel so bad; they aren’t partying it up in Houston any more either.

‘The city’s rapid population growth in the late 1900s was primarily a result of Norway’s booming offshore oil industry. Today the oil industry is a key industry in the Stavanger region and the city is widely referred to as the Oil Capital of Norway.[5] The largest company in the Nordic region,[6] Norwegian energy company Statoil is headquartered in Stavanger.’

‘Population (2011)
• City 130,426
• Density 1,800/km2 (4,800/sq mi)
• Urban 237,369
• Urban density 3,000/km2 (7,900/sq mi)
• Metro 319,822′

‘only 16 properties were sold in the city this summer’

Comment by Professor Bear
2015-09-21 06:47:51

I know a young family from Stavanger. They previously owned a home there but sold in spring 2014 (I guess you could say they saw it coming…).

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Comment by Ben Jones
2015-09-21 07:04:15

‘Even though unemployment is rising and Norway’s economic boom is fizzling, housing prices hit their highest level ever in August. They rose another 2.5 percent just from July on a nationwide basis, but researchers continue to caution that the market is about to turn.’

‘Demand also continues to outpace supply, and prices are especially high in and around the center of Oslo. The area registered a formidable 12.2 percent increase over average prices paid in August of last year, and prices are running at as much as NOK 100,000 per square meter, 10 times the level of the early 1990s when a real estate market considered strong at that time suddenly collapsed.’

‘Meanwhile, real estate brokers continue to enjoy brisk business with the exception of the Stavanger area, where prices in the oil capital’s county of Rogaland fell. News bureau NTB reported that hard-hit Stavanger and Sande were the only areas where prices declined, by 1.2 percent and 0.3 percent respectively. It’s also taking much longer to sell homes in the Stavanger region, from 38 days in August of last year to 57 days last month.’

‘In Oslo, however, bidding wars still regularly send prices above market appraisals that already are viewed as high.’

Are we really supposed to believe that in a city of 130,000 with only 16 properties selling in the summer, that “from 38 days in August of last year to 57 days last month”?

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2015-09-21 07:23:30

‘It’s also taking much longer to sell homes in the Stavanger region, from 38 days in August of last year to 57 days last month.’

Right on target, Ben. Averaging time-to-sell for only 16 homes that have recently sold is a downward - biased estimate of the time to sell because it ignores the presumably longer time it will take to sell the unsold homes sitting on the market.

 
Comment by Blue Skye
2015-09-21 15:02:42

NOK 100,000 per square meter

Yikes! That’s $1,000 psf. No wonder only 16 houses changed hands.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Ben Jones
2015-09-21 05:53:29

These are some peachy people you’ve got in Vancouver:

‘According to a federal judge, Lau was “unlucky or unwise or both” in an ill-fated 2010 deal involving cross-border transactions and hard-to-trace cash seized by Canada Border Services agents. Some evidence put forward by Lau in the case raised as many questions as answers, the judge said.’

‘And five years later, puzzling questions remain around the death of the young Chinese-Canadian fraudster hired by Lau to buy a 2008 Porsche Turbo Cabriolet in Florida, via Wynn Casino in Las Vegas.’

 
Comment by Ben Jones
2015-09-21 06:34:37

‘Apart from high inventories, another factor holding developers back is the absence of a meaningful drop in land prices. In Huizhou, a third-tier city in southern China’s Guangdong province, at least four plots of residential land in the Huicheng district have failed to sell in three auctions in the past two years. Local officials kept the reserve prices for the four plots of land at a total of 316.5 million yuan during the last two auctions held last month and in December 2014.’

The old Chinese trick of manipulating markets. We just won’t sell for less! The article mentions they actually raised the price for this land since 2012. Recently I posted an article reporting the SOE’s are using fake bidders at auctions.

Comment by Blue Skye
2015-09-21 11:05:06

Some of these cities are going to have a hard time servicing their debts without the land sale revenue going up and up.

 
Comment by Jingle Male
2015-09-22 02:24:51

State Owned Enterprises…. SOEs. When have you ever seen a government entity be aware of supply/demand or income/expense factors? Not often, because they can just order up.more tax revenue to solve their problems.

“Enterprise” is the wrong term: State Owned Parasites is more like it!

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2015-09-21 06:41:48

“China watchers were cheered this week when new economic data showing housing sales are continuing to rise.”

Given the many Chinese people who buy homes they never intend to occupy in the hopes of selling them later at a higher price than paid, don’t rising home sales signify the mania is worsening?

Comment by Ben Jones
2015-09-21 06:49:36

90% of the households in China are said own at least one house. Depending on the source there are reported to be 20-60 million vacant houses there.

Comment by taxpayers
2015-09-21 07:26:51

? I thought 90% were peasants w a yak and a small rice field

Comment by Ben Jones
2015-09-21 07:34:14

‘In Chinese culture we buy one home for living in and a few for investments’

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Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-09-21 09:50:48

I know quite a few asians. They all seem to be degenerate gamblers hanging out in casinos.

 
 
Comment by AmazingRuss
2015-09-21 23:22:00

The SAME yak and rice field.

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Comment by Jingle Male
2015-09-22 02:28:13

Ask HA, he’ll know how many vacant houses there are in China! If he doesn’t, he’ll just make up a number! Ha!

Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-09-22 04:45:58

Youre a bonafide fraud Jingle_Fraud.

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Comment by snake charmer
2015-09-21 07:46:18

“The case in point: Green Square. Nearly 10,000 apartments will be built in one of Sydney’s newest suburbs in the next four years to satisfy investor demand.”
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This was built entirely to “satisfy investor demand”? Interestingly, the City of Sydney’s website on the neighborhood has a newsletter entirely in Mandarin.

 
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Comment by Jingle Male
2015-09-22 02:41:23

Fascinating. This analysis blocks most of Mafia Blocks assertions. HA gets shredded by a true housing analyst!

Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-09-22 04:43:13

Data my friend. Stick with the data.

Petaluma, CA Housing Prices Plunge 8% YoY

http://www.movoto.com/petaluma-ca/market-trends/

 
 
 
Comment by rj chicago
2015-09-21 15:18:39

Grab some popcorn folks - this could get very interesting given the financial status of browns, blacks, whites but all poors in the utopia that is called Chicago……Sheesh!!! Eventually you run out of other people’s money!!

Like Cuba Gooding said in McGuire - “Show me the MONEY!!!”

BREAKING NEWS ALERT
September 21, 2015
Emanuel to call for nearly $600 million property tax hike
Mayor Rahm Emanuel plans to ask aldermen to increase property taxes by nearly $600 million during his second term, aides to the mayor confirmed Monday. It’s the largest city property tax in modern history and will be paired with a series of other tax and fee hikes.

 
Comment by Senior Housing Analyst
2015-09-21 15:33:54

“Austin, TX Realtor Caught On Camera Stealing From Home”

http://kxan.com/2015/09/10/austin-real-estate-agent-burgles-condo/

 
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