A Moment When People Take A Pause
The Dallas Morning News reports from Texas. “Has the North Texas housing market gone over the top? Market analysts admit being nervous about the pace of local price increases and unprecedented demand. ‘It’s getting scary,’ said Dr. James Gaines, chief economist of the Real Estate Center at Texas A&M University. Gaines was particularly shocked to hear about the dozen or so folks who spent Monday night in tents outside of a McKinney model home park, waiting to be the first in line to lock in their lot purchase. ‘Oh, good grief,’ he said. ‘When you hear that, you have to worry if things are going to go bust. If people are camping overnight to buy houses, that does not sound good.’”
“Buyers lined up starting Monday to get the best home sites in a new subdivision that First Texas Homes is building in west McKinney near U.S. Highway 380. They got first choice out of about 80 new home locations in the Prestwyck Community, which has houses priced from around $315,000. Eight months pregnant and somewhat sleep deprived, Tawana Keah began waiting Monday. A real estate agent who is renting in McKinney, Keah has lived in the area long enough to see former cornfields sprout homes for budding families.”
“‘It’s a good investment because the area is growing so much,’ said Keah. ‘Everything is moving out this way,’ she added as she packed up the overnight camping gear. ‘Because I’m in the industry, I see where the trends are going. It used to be Plano, then Frisco and now McKinney, so the values are just going to continue to increase in this area.’”
The San Gabriel Valley Tribune in California. “The city of San Gabriel last month became the latest in the region to begin to investigate solutions to the problems of mansionization in the region, and good for it. Gallatin and Community Development Director Armine Chaparyan, in a memo to City Manager Steven Preston, initially provide an analysis of who and what are the sources of the problem. First, they say, it’s ‘Move-up families seeking to upgrade their current living conditions and who are desirous of a new home.’ Next it’s local speculative builders — ’small-scale, locally based contractors/investors who are looking for undervalued R-1 properties with a large potential upside if redeveloped.’”
“But City Hall also doesn’t shy away from discussing ‘Overseas investors: This last group is one that seems to be increasing in recent years. The principal source of this foreign investment, though not the only one, appears to be mainland China. … In one case, the overseas investor will purchase a single-family home and leave it vacant, sometimes for years, hoping to cash in passively on the expected appreciation in home values over time. … this trend can lead to, at best, homes that sit silently in an otherwise lively neighborhood or, at worst, derelict properties in which maintenance becomes an ongoing code enforcement issue.’”
The Wall Street Journal on New York. “Manhattan apartment prices drifted slightly lower in the third quarter from peak levels set earlier in the year amid signs of a slowdown in deal-making over the summer. Brokers and analysts attribute the decline in part to uncertainty about the world economy, especially after a volatile August in U.S. and Chinese financial markets. ‘The leverage has shifted a few notches toward the buy side,’ said Noah Rosenblatt, a broker and chief executive of UrbanDigs.com. ‘We are in the midst of a slight adjustment down in price, but I don’t think it is anything sizable at the moment.’”
“He said he expects some international buyers—especially from China, who helped push the market upward in recent months—to pause and reassess how to ‘deploy their capital.’”
“Leonard Steinberg, president of Compass, a brokerage firm based in New York City, confirmed the slowdown in deals, but said he expects to see sales pick up later this year. He also cited worries about a slowing Chinese economy and a faltering U.S. stock market that helped slow sales. ‘When everyone in New York keeps talking about Chinese buyers, when there is volatility, there is going to be a moment when people take a pause,’ he said.”
From Vegas Inc in Nevada. “Las Vegas homebuilders are selling more houses than last year and ramping up construction plans, but a number of issues still are weighing down the valley’s economy, a new Home Builders Research report says. 25 percent of Southern Nevada homeowners are underwater, meaning their mortgage debt outweighs their home value. There also remain an untold number of residents who haven’t made a mortgage payment in years. ‘We were just told of a businessman who was bragging about not making a payment on his mortgage since 2008!’ company founder Dennis Smith wrote in his report. ‘How can this be classified as a sustained, real housing recovery?’”
The Asbury Park Press in New Jersey. “Housing prices in New Jersey have increased since 2011, a few years after the housing bubble burst, but momentum is expected to slow in the next year, said Patrick O’Keefe, director of economic research at CohnReznick. Contributing factors to the plateau of home prices include the expectation that the government will raise interest rates, and that would-be sellers are hesitant to put their homes on the market, waiting for prices to climb further, O’Keefe said.”
“‘One of the things that has bedeviled housing recovery nationally, but even more pronounced in New Jersey, is potential home sellers have been unwilling to list their homes because of the degree to which they would have to take a discounted price,’ O’Keefe said.”
Bloomberg on North Dakota. “After struggling to house thousands of migrant roughnecks during the boom, the state faces a new real-estate crisis: The frenzied drilling that made it No. 1 in personal-income growth and job creation for five consecutive years hasn’t lasted long enough to support the oil-fueled building explosion. Hundreds of dwellings approved during the heady days are rising, skeletons of wood and cement surrounded by rolling grasslands, with too few residents who can afford them.”
“‘We are overbuilt,’ said Dan Kalil, a commissioner in Williams County in the heart of the Bakken. ‘I am concerned about having hundreds of $200-a-month apartments in the future.’”
“Officials in Watford City about 45 miles away have issued 1,824 permits for apartments, duplexes and homes in the past 18 months after only three houses were built between 1980 and 2000. They are in limbo, worried about filling the units. ‘This lag time is driving me nuts,’ said Brent Sanford, Watford City’s mayor, during a recent tour of construction sites with names such as Emerald Ridge Estates and Pheasant Ridge. ‘I’m now hearing words like, ‘This isn’t sustainable.’”
Did the concept of underwater mortgages exist in the 50s ?
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whats wrong with that? an oil city retirement and you can have extra fun money each month.
Amazing all that land and they built luxury houses all crammed together…
I am concerned about having hundreds of $200-a-month apartments in the future
“Amazing all that land and they built luxury houses all crammed together…”
Amazing (to me) is that house values are determined by the square footage of the houses (which might be two-story structures) and not the square footage of the land the houses sit on.
An ordinary economic miracle is buying up some farm land that has its price related to the value of the crops that can be grown on it and then subdividing the farm land into plots and building numerous McMansions all jammed together on these plots which then greatly increases the plot’s value.
A true economic miracle is buying up huge sections of desert land FOR NEXT TO NOTHING and doing the same thing to this desert land as what was done to farm land and then convincing thousands of people that they really and truly want to live there.
That’s why they say houses are “sprouting up” and “budding”.
In parts of Irvine they didn’t even change they layout of the fields, they just switched from planting produce to planting houses. Driving along the 133 feels similar to driving through Nebraska - rows and rows of product planted under the sun.
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Price reduced:
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Many are like this beauty:
3000 Veranda Ln, Southlake, TX 76092
$674,767 3 Bd 3 Full, 1 Half Ba Single Family Home
3,010 Sq Ft
4,600 new houses for sale in little ol’ Prosper seems like a lot.
09/25/15 Price change $674,767-0.1% $224
09/22/15 Listed for sale $675,767 $224
They cut the price $1,000 three days after listing it.
A thousand buck cut, on a $675K house.
ROTFLMAO. I wish I could sit in on the meeting when that decision was made.
Scenario #1 - “Our market analysis was wrong. We are a thousand bucks too high……’
Scenario #2 - “OMG, our “Trophy McMansion” has been on the market THREE WHOLE DAYS”, and nobody has even called…..drop the price $1K to get some activity going……”
Its not 4,600 new houses for sale…
if you do a search for single family over 2000sqft that are price reduced there is barely over 100.
i live in frisco and houses are selling like hotcakes around me
I’m curious…how far back does the phrase “selling like hotcakes” go?
I remember hearing it a lot in 2006 and 2007. I’m guessing it goes back farther than that…
Frisco, TX Housing Prices Crater 13% YoY; Inventory Explodes 94%
http://www.movoto.com/frisco-tx/market-trends/
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/30-homes-lost-value-over-110135020.html
churn baby chrun
99% of counties will raise RE taxes
Got TABOR?
real estate taxes will DEFINITELY be raised in the future.
Especially here in California where anyone with a house will be bled dry by govt workers, public utilities, & unions.
“He said he expects some international buyers—especially from China, who helped push the market upward in recent months—to pause and reassess how to ‘deploy their capital.’”
Those margin loans, used to fund money losing stock and real estate investments, unfortunately have to be repaid.
Second article in two days mentioning Chinese buyers disappearing.
Staying in tents to buy a house(?), save those tents folks, you may be living in one in the near future?
More from the Bloomberg piece below. Somehow I don’t think this is going to end well. And, surprisingly for some, it is close to ending. The article has an eerie photo of abandoned RVs. And they weren’t abandoned so that the owners could move into a $40 million apartment complex.
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Commissioners in Williston — the nation’s fastest-growing micropolitan area between July 2010 and July 2013 — voted Sept. 22 to consider requiring facilities that operate a total of 3,517 temporary beds to close by July. The annual per-bed fees Williams County requires camp operators to pay will double to $800 in May.
The goal is to force the remaining oil workers into residences that were on the drawing board when a barrel of oil was selling for twice as much as it is today.
“A lot of our investors would not have gone into this had they not had the understanding that, as permanent units went in, man camps would go away.” said Terry Metzler, North Dakota operations manager for Granite Peak Development LLC, based in Casper, Wyoming. Its many projects in Williston include a new Menards home-improvement store with more than 200,000 square feet and two $40 million apartment complexes nearby.
Summer of 2014 this area had more expensive rents than Silicon Valley.
So the dumb-azz “investors” couldn’t see that Bakken was just like every other gold rush we’ve had in the past two centuries.
There was a reason a lot of those people were living in RVs and mobile homes. They knew the jobs were going to go away as soon as the infrastructure was built. I’m sure a high percentage of them are 1099s/contractors.
Of course, nobody wants the “investors” to lose their azzes. Hence, the local ordinances trying to get people to sign up for rent or outright home buys.
Good luck with that.
Yes, ‘forcing’ those remaining workers into more expensive, permanent structures . . . good luck with that!
So how long do unsheathed OSB structures last in that climate?
It’s nice of them to illustrate so clearly for us the collusion and fraud at the heart of the real estate “industry”. Just rig everything so that people are forced to buy your “product”, by taking away their other options.
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A full 28% of sellers have reduced prices at least once.
The used house salesman that was driving me around the Colorado video is from Dallas. He told me the cities north of Dallas are going down now. It is of significance that people are camping out, (8 months pregnant!) but it doesn’t mean prices are going up.
in the 80’s how long did the crash take from oil filed to dallas and money centers?
Probably a year or two. But it wasn’t oil really. The S&L thing kicked off the slide. Then it spread to the banks. Real estate was what caused the failures, not oil. The oil decline merely exposed the RE bubble.
30% of homes lost value over the last year
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How many deca-corns are there? Sell that Silicon Valley shack while you can!
‘There are so many $10 billion startups that there’s a new name for them: ‘decacorns’
‘unicorns are abundant in Silicon Valley. There are so many companies with sky-high valuations of $10 billion or more that the industry has come up with a whole new name to describe them. Bloomberg Business has christened these companies “decacorns.”
“In 2013, there were 38 unicorns across all tech sectors; in 2014, there were 68 in mobile Internet alone,” according to a recent study. Of those 68, there’s a growing slew of decacorns including Airbnb, Dropbox, Pinterest, Snapchat, Uber, Flipkart. Uber’s latest funding round values it at around $40 billion.’
“It’s a made-up word based on a creature that doesn’t exist,” Bloomberg’s Sarah Frier and Eric Newcomer write.’
‘The rest of the Bloomberg piece describes how investors and founders derive those enormous valuations through some fuzzy math.’
http://www.businessinsider.com/decacorn-is-the-new-unicorn-2015-3
$20k Silly Shanties. That’s about all they’re worth.
I’ll recount the story, because it’s the kind of “magical thinking” that can come about:
I went to a “garage.com” pitch prior to the dotcom crash. The thesis of the presenter was “get eyeballs, and make money”. People left the room shaking their heads. It was the moment that I thought “this is all going to end badly”.
Now it’s the view the people don’t seem to believe Uber or AirBNB will ever have meaningful competition.
Honestly, other than name recognition and the need to grow a user base, what barriers are there to someone starting an Uber competitor? AirBNB? This is especially the case since drivers have options…they don’t need to work exclusively for Uber…owners of property don’t need to list only through AirBNB. Switching costs as a renter of the car or property are close to zero. So, if someone offers a similar service to these two with a smaller piece going to the company, why as a driver or real estate owner wouldn’t you try? As a consumer, wouldn’t you go to the lowest price?
For businesses like these, I’m amazed that people don’t think about the potential for competition (thus driving margins through the floor).
The companies that have billion dollar valuations that might actually be real are those who have solved a very difficult problem where they have some kind of patent protection.
Maybe I just don’t “get” Uber or AirBNB, but as I see it, the higher the margin, the more interest there will be in competitors joining the fray.
Just to think that some people think that there isn’t a tech bubble with all these stoopid valuations for shite companies in the Valley.
Uber is going down for sure.
1. there’s competition in different countries just starting to come it and take market share.
2. a high % or countries have banned it.
3. the valuation is stoopid, because is not like they have a portfolio of 500-1000 > patents to be worth 50B…
nuts..
same for a bunch of other tech start-ups
it’s not sustainable
I don’t consider Uber to be a “tech” company.
What about Amazon? Do you consider them to be a tech company?
Yes, they have their cloud computing business, but primarily they are an e-commerce website and logistics business. One could argue that Uber is similar. Except instead of moving around packages, they move around people.
Amazon is a money losing operation Rental_Fraud.
Uber is like a real estate agent actually. They take a commission for connecting a driver and someone who needs a ride. According to reports their cash flow is decent, but no where near enough to justify the valuation. Even more silly is that they just dropped $135 million on an office building in Oakland. Here is a non-public company that is so fat on itself and has so much silly money to burn, that it is buying office buildings.
$135 million in borrowed cash is simply tomorrows default.
With office development cost in the $40/sq ft range, it seems someone overpaid massively for some run down space in a run down city.
How long before Uber implodes and the indictments begin?
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