November 30, 2015

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Comment by Professor Bear
2015-11-30 02:03:56

Trump

Comment by Professor Bear
2015-11-30 02:09:20

ELECTION 2016
GOP establishment to back Hillary if Trump nominee
‘They want a puppet that they can control, Donald will never be that person’
Published: 14 hours ago
Joe Kovacs

Although Donald Trump has signed a pledge to support the Republican Party’s nominee, that doesn’t mean the party’s establishment will support him, should he win the GOP presidential nod.

A report by the Hill suggests the big money Republican donors are actually looking to support Hillary Clinton for commander in chief if Trump is at the top of the GOP ticket. Yes, the Democrat Hillary Clinton could be getting millions of dollars from Republicans.

The website says: “In conversations over the past month, GOP establishment donors have confided to the Hill that for the first time in recent memory, they find themselves contemplating not supporting a Republican nominee for president.”

Comment by oxide
2015-11-30 07:55:41

The report is part hearsay, part wishful thinking, perhaps on the part of closet Trump supporters at WND.

I don’t think that the establishment on either side ever realized how strong anti-immigrant sentiment — especially illegal immigration — is in this country.

Comment by nhtransplant
2015-11-30 12:25:02

Illegal immigration, sure, but also a growing realization that the GOP’s establishment and the DNC’s establishment are pretty much one and the same, at least on the issues that matter. “He’s not one of THEM” is the reason almost no gaffe on his part creates a wavering of his support.

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Comment by MacBeth
2015-11-30 13:18:06

It started with Bush Sr.

Keep in mind the extent to which the Bushes didn’t like Reagan.

 
 
 
Comment by Oddfellow
2015-11-30 08:15:06

Although Donald Trump has signed a pledge to support the Republican Party’s nominee, that doesn’t mean the party’s establishment will support him

It seems to me that Trump has no reason, now that the GOP establishment has threatened not to support him and competing campaigns are calling him a Nazi, to honor this pledge, if he was ever going to honor it.

That’s probably my biggest hope for him, that he destroys the current two party system.

Comment by oxide
2015-11-30 08:34:40

He just might take down Citizens United with it. Also a good thing.

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Comment by Iceberg
2015-11-30 19:25:01

No one who votes for Hillary should ever bitch about Citizens United ever again.

 
Comment by Icemaiden
2015-11-30 20:06:30

Affirmative.

 
Comment by Oddfellow
2015-11-30 20:18:37

No one who votes for Hillary should ever bitch about Citizens United ever again.

Why?

 
 
 
 
Comment by azdude
2015-11-30 05:33:55

cruz is gaining steam.

Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-11-30 07:30:31

Cruz = Goldman Sach’s Trojan Horse. Wifey will be the conduit for his marching orders.

 
Comment by scdave
2015-11-30 08:37:21

cruz is gaining steam ??

With whom ?? Just preaching to the Choir….Bush redux…

 
 
Comment by Jingle Male
2015-11-30 05:54:05

Trumbo.

Trump + Dumbo?

 
Comment by Combotechie
2015-11-30 06:07:10

President. President Trump.

(ouch)

Comment by Combotechie
2015-11-30 06:11:42

Not to worry …

“Vegas lists Clinton as overwhelming favorite to win election”

http://www.ktnv.com/now-trending/vegas-lists-clinton-as-overwhelming-favorite-to-win-election

Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-11-30 07:31:55

95% of the electorate are stupid. Stupid voters make bad choices. Hillary is the worst possible choice, ergo, Hillary will almost certainly be our next President.

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Comment by AmazingRuss
2015-11-30 07:56:36

Boo boo hoo

 
 
Comment by oxide
2015-11-30 08:20:27

This is even more interesting:

“The favorite to win the GOP nomination is Rubio, who has 5 to 4 odds of winning the party’s nod. Trump has 3 to 1 odds, Senator Ted Cruz follows at 7 to 2 and former Florida Governor Jeb Bush has 17 to 1 odds.”

Where’s Carson? And Bush’s $100 million in dark money buys him 17 to 1 and that’s not even the general? Thanks George!

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Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-11-30 08:32:12

We’ll see.

What we do know is Hillaryous can’t win.

 
Comment by oxide
2015-11-30 08:52:51

I don’t know about “can’t” win. But unlike Obama, Hillary seems to have no ability whatsoever to inspire a ground game to GOTV (at least not in her favor). Obama needed that ground game both times. And this year there’s no high visibility issue, e.g. gay marriage or DREAMER immigration, to GOTV either. 2016 shaping up to be more like 2014, a Dem shellacking.

 
Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-11-30 08:54:37

“I don’t know about “can’t” win.”

We do. Seek knowledge.

 
Comment by Oddfellow
2015-11-30 09:21:36

You know what would guarantee a Hillary victory? Trump running as a third party candidate. But in that case, I could imagine Hillary not getting a majority of the vote, just a plurality, and I could also imagine Trump coming in second.

How would Trump and his rather excitable followers react to him coming in second to a candidate who wins with less than a majority of the vote?

I bet they’d demand a run-off, Constitution be damned. “This is too important for America!”

Could get interesting.

 
Comment by taxpayers
2015-11-30 10:05:56

wymin are going to vote for a woman and more will come out=Hitlery for u

 
Comment by oxide
2015-11-30 14:35:30

Trump running as a third party candidate.

That would entail losing the R primary, and then losing again in a three-way plurality. That is downright LIMP as hell, and no WAY will Trump’s ego allow for such limpitude. The only way he can tolerate losing is in a straight-up mano-a-mano.

 
Comment by Oddfellow
2015-11-30 20:23:29

no WAY will Trump’s ego allow for such limpitude. The only way he can tolerate losing is in a straight-up mano-a-mano.

That’s my point.

 
Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-11-30 20:27:08

Lola you’re always trying to make a point here but you never do.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Goon
2015-11-30 06:30:53

Libertarianism > authoritarianism.

Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-11-30 06:53:10

Alternative: Hillary (retch)

Will vote for Trump to give the finger to the sleazy, corrupt, oligarch-owned Establishment GOP, albeit with fear & loathing.

Comment by palmetto
2015-11-30 07:24:14

No fear and loathing here. Trump!

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Comment by lah
2015-11-30 15:38:01

Trump says he is “a big fan of Israel.”
“Frankly, a strong prime minister is a strong Israel,” Trump says, “and you truly have a great prime minister in Benjamin Netanyahu – there’s nobody like him! He’s a winner; he’s highly respected; he’s highly thought of by all.
“People really do have great, great respect for what’s happened in Israel. So vote for Benjamin. Terrific guy, terrific leader, great for Israel.”
His daughter is now a Jewish convert.
Trump sounds like just another “yes man” for Israel.

 
Comment by CalifoH20
2015-11-30 16:35:14

I hope Trump is a real fiscal conservative like I am.

 
 
Comment by Goon
2015-11-30 07:25:52

RKH, the lead article on the Weekly Standard is a video clip from yesterday’s ABC This Week Sunday titled “Kristol: I have come to loathe Donald Trump”

William Kristol is a war criminal. He is also a traitor to the United States. And not in a good way like Edward Snowden. He has a net worth of $200,000,000, and none of his children or grandchildren will ever have their legs blown of by an IED.

Every time you click on one of those neocon links, you pull a Shekel out of the U.S. Treasury and you put it in William Kristol’s pocket.

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Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-11-30 07:34:06

Kristol and the rest of the neocon ideologues and cheerleaders should be required by law to register as agents for Israel’s Likud Party, and their sons should be in the first wave of any and all neocon military escapades abroad.

 
Comment by Goon
2015-11-30 08:07:57

I love the title of this: “securing the realm”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clean_Break:_A_New_Strategy_for_Securing_the_Realm

Realm? What is this, the 14th century? LOLZ

 
Comment by oxide
2015-11-30 14:37:10

Do you mean 14th century BC?

 
 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2015-11-30 07:28:02

Will vote for Trump to give the finger to the sleazy, corrupt, oligarch-owned Establishment GOP

Seems like a lazy way of cutting off your nose to spite your face.

My bet is Trump is not the GOP nominee. I almost hope I’m wrong.

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Comment by Larry Littlefield
2015-11-30 07:39:48

Donald Trump is a shrewd man taking advantage of the fact that out in the suburbs of America, absent ever rising debts people are finding out just how poor they have become. And they are facing old age with scant savings and, often, debts.

Trump knows these people because in many cases they blew their last few nickels at his casinos. Until those nickels were all gone, and the casinos went broke too — with investors and lenders, not the Donald, taking the loss.

Taking advantage of them then, by providing false hope, he is doing so again. By providing someone else to blame other than themselves, older generations, or the wealthy.

Starting with the Chinese, moving on to the Mexicans, and now the Arabs. As if Americans had no choice but to use (individual and collective) credit cards to by their stuff, drugs and imported oil because that was the easiest things to do in the short run.

Comment by AmazingRuss
2015-11-30 07:58:41

He wants to be daddy to all the finger pointers.

 
Comment by Ben Jones
2015-11-30 08:23:06

‘By providing someone else to blame other than themselves’

Arizona became a huge gateway to illegal immigration because the feds clamped down on the California border. When I first moved here in 2003, every day in the paper there were terrible reports of human smuggling; 150 people in a house held by some thugs with automatic weapons, semis full of people in 110 degree heat, you’ve all seen it. Arizonans passed some referendums, backed by a big majority of Hispanics, BTW, and a lot of it got cleaned up. Many of these people were headed up north, but the crimes the state was subjected to because of being the gateway were intolerable.

I understand what you are saying, but let’s not forget; how many Guatemalans does Mexico “accept”? Zero. It’s not even discussed in Mexico. Can you immigrate to Mexico with no strings attached? No, and it’s not going to be negotiated or changed. Somehow, anyone who suggests we have a policy like everybody else is a racist. And lost in all this; why don’t you fix your economy Mexico? You have resources, you have a political system, you have access to markets.

Comment by Larry Littlefield
2015-11-30 08:27:57

I’m not someone who believes in unlimited immigration, nor am I someone who believes that the criteria we should use to decide which immigrants to accept should be willingness to break the law.

However, to claim that Mexican immigrants are the reason for all of America’s problems or even most of them is simply false.

After all, since 2007 immigration — legal and illegal — is way down, but those problems are up.

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Comment by aNYCdj
2015-11-30 08:39:46

my idea is simple…eliminate all interpreters at immigration hearings. If you can’t read, write and speak English to the clerks and judges and fill out the forms on your own, then why are you still here?

 
Comment by Ben Jones
2015-11-30 08:50:36

‘to claim that Mexican immigrants are the reason for all of America’s problems or even most of them is simply false’

Does this mean we can’t have a say in what our immigration policy is? We can’t even ask that the federal government enforce existing laws? We’re told, “the system is broken”. End of discussion. Uh, how about trying some enforcement? Remember how we were going to fine employers?

How is it that Arizona has two senators that openly defy the states voters and push amnesty? And they have no fear of losing their seats because of how powerful senators are. Doesn’t this constant flow of illegals prove NAFTA didn’t work? How about we revisit that? We used to have a trade policy that went along the lines of, we don’t do business with countries that have bad human rights, or unacceptably low wages, or damaging environmental laws. Is that too much to ask? Look at the sky in Beijing. Look at their rivers. Look at their prisons.

And now look at who it is that tells us here we must accept globalism and illegal immigration. Why it’s powerful people who receive great support from corporations that benefit from these very policies.

 
Comment by In Colorado
2015-11-30 09:45:03

+1000, Ben.

 
Comment by scdave
2015-11-30 09:54:16

Spot on Ben….

Remember how we were going to fine employers ??

Thats the easiest solution…And, make the fines for everyone including picking up a day laborer at Home Depot…Without the pay they will all go back home…

 
Comment by phony scandals
2015-11-30 10:21:21

“+1000, Ben.”

“Spot on Ben….”

While I clearly understand Ben’s position, I don’t clearly understand Colorado and scdave’s position on this subject.

Are you guys for open borders with fines for people who hire the ill or um undocumented aliens?

Do you want open borders and allow undocumented aliens to be able to stay here but not allowed to work?

Do you not want to enforce existing laws but create new ones that would make the undocumented people here legal or um documented so they can work?

Like I said I understand Ben’s position.

But then we do have…

“Without the pay they will all go back home…”

So I guess that could mean you want to starve the undocumented people so they will go back home.

Is that what you think should be done?

 
Comment by Ben Jones
2015-11-30 10:34:40

‘you want to starve the undocumented people’

‘Border Congressman Henry Cuellar (D-Laredo) says as the U.S. debates the fate of Syrian refugees, the refugees are coming and will continue to arrive on our southern border, and rather than debate, the country needs to start deciding how to handle the coming flood of desperate people from the Middle East, News Radio 1200 WOAI reports.’

His suggestion, working together with Mexico to make it harder for refugees, many of whom enter the Americas in Central America, to make it to the U.S. “Mexico stopped 174,000 people last year that were coming into the U.S, and they did it only with $80 million,” he said.’

http://www.woai.com/articles/woai-local-news-sponsored-by-five-119078/cuellar-syrians-already-entering-the-us-14160150/#ixzz3szsb9d4Z

Here you have a Hispanic Democrat saying this. Is Mexico starving these 174,000 people? Or are they saying, we will enforce our laws and Guatemala needs to feed her own? You can have a safety net or open borders, but you can’t have both.

 
Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-11-30 10:41:24

…… I hear a whole lot of backpedalling going on.

 
Comment by phony scandals
2015-11-30 11:14:33

“You can have a safety net or open borders, but you can’t have both.”

For if you do you have…

The Cloward–Piven strategy

 
Comment by phony scandals
2015-11-30 11:41:26

“…… I hear a whole lot of backpedalling going on.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aaop6e17aRs - 250k -

 
Comment by scdave
2015-11-30 11:58:08

I don’t clearly understand Colorado and scdave’s position on this subject..

Are you guys for open borders ??

We don’t have open borders we have open border line…Enforce the immigration laws…

with fines for people who hire the ill or um undocumented aliens ??

Yes….

allow undocumented aliens to be able to stay here ??

No…

but not allowed to work ??

Get a Green Card or temporary work visa…

Do you not want to enforce existing laws but create new ones that would make the undocumented people here legal ??

With anchor baby laws that is a more difficult answer…First, everyone get documentation…If their children are US citizens then mom & dad need to go through the legalization process just like everyone else…

The new law that I would favor would be to change the anchor baby law that would now say that You must be a United States citizen when the child is born for that child to automatically be a US citizen…

So I guess that could mean you want to starve the undocumented people so they will go back home ??

They are here illegally…They committed a crime by coming here illegally…We are not starving anyone…

 
Comment by nhtransplant
2015-11-30 12:32:29

“You can have a safety net or open borders, but you can’t have both.”

Spot on. Been saying that for years.

 
Comment by phony scandals
2015-11-30 12:57:25

“We don’t have open borders we have open border line…”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m30mG3JKzA8 - 183k -

Between this and the anchor baby laws the rest is moot.

 
Comment by In Colorado
2015-11-30 13:39:33

I don’t clearly understand Colorado and scdave’s position on this subject..

Are you guys for open borders ??

I am not for open borders.

Even without Free Cheese with open borders we would be flooded with immigrants from the four corners of the globe, and all the problems they bring with them.

No thanks.

 
Comment by AmazingRuss
2015-11-30 15:20:11

I don’t see why we allow ANY immigration, with our employment rate as low as it is. We have too many people in the country already.

 
Comment by redmondjp
2015-11-30 16:55:50

If you are a globalist, then no, we don’t. Having masses of unemployed, desperate people keeps labor rates low.

 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-11-30 16:57:42

How is it that Arizona has two senators that openly defy the states voters and push amnesty?

Because Arizona’s electorate, like the nation’s, is comprised overwhelmingly of retards who keep voting for stooges of the oligopoly instead of quality candidates who will put the interests of the nation and the 99% first.

 
 
 
Comment by MightyMike
2015-11-30 09:54:34

Donald Trump is a shrewd man taking advantage of the fact that out in the suburbs of America, absent ever rising debts people are finding out just how poor they have become. And they are facing old age with scant savings and, often, debts.

If you’re talking about people who are a few years away from retirement, have very little money in their 401(k) accounts and little or no equity in their deteriorating houses, I haven’t seen anything proposed by Trump (or anyone else for that matter) that would help such people.

Comment by Oddfellow
2015-11-30 10:11:34

I haven’t seen anything proposed by Trump (or anyone else for that matter) that would help such people.

Trump promises not to cut Social Security or Medicaid.

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Comment by Oddfellow
2015-11-30 10:57:57

I meant Medicare.

 
Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-11-30 11:19:31

There is nothing to cut and salvage in SS. It’s bankrupt.

 
Comment by Puggs
2015-11-30 15:32:48

Facts are stubborn things.

 
 
Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-11-30 10:13:54

That’s what happens when you pay a grossly inflated price for a depreciating asset. A house in this case. And there are millions of these suckers out there.

Got cash?

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Comment by Icemaiden
2015-11-30 20:12:53

“Trump knows these people because in many cases they blew their last few nickels at his casinos.”

I guess that goes both ways. Is it a safe bet that anyone who ever lost his shirt at a Trump casino will vote for the Don?

 
 
Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-11-30 08:24:47

The Donald. He himself lives in the vast expanse of your empty skull, rent-free.

 
Comment by Bill, Just south of Irvine
2015-11-30 09:03:05

Voluntaryism. Not trump.

Comment by In Colorado
2015-11-30 09:47:20

What incentive does the FSA have to be part of “Voluntaryism”? You might boycott the ballot box, but they won’t. And you will be governed by the douchebags they elect.

Comment by Bill, Just south of Irvine
2015-11-30 20:09:26

Be above it.

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Comment by AmazingRuss
2015-11-30 15:07:03

On being confronted by Christie about the non existence of muslim 9/11 tailgate parties:

” “They’ll find something” but it’s taking time because, “You know if you look back 14-15 years, that was like ancient times in terms of cinema and in terms of news and everything else. They don’t have the same stuff. Today you can press a button and you can see exactly what went on two years.””

In a single quote, we see he:

1.) Is liar, on a grand scale, about stuff that matters
2.) Is a sociopath that can’t admit lie
3.) Has minimal expertise with the english language
4.) Has no understanding of technology

Ray Ray, you may now throw your conniption about how he’s fit to be president because Hillary is a lizard person.

Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-11-30 17:01:45

Me voting for Trump has less to do with Hillary than wanting to destroy the Establishment GOP, although Hillary is such a ghastly candidate that I’m willing to take a chance on Trump even though I’m not in sync with him on many issues, like civil liberties (databases on Muslims? creepy) or forcibly grabbing other countries’ oil.

Comment by AmazingRuss
2015-11-30 17:34:03

Destroying the establishment GOP will leave the Tree Monkey GOP… which will put the Dems in full control for a few decades. Is that really what you want?

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Comment by Ben Jones
2015-11-30 18:21:19

Man, these Democrats concern for the GOP’s well being is really touching. Now come on Republicans, share. Tell us how to save the Democrats from themselves.

(BTW, if you say shrieking or tree monkey every day I’m pretty sure your blood pressure is too high).

 
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Comment by Iceberg
2015-11-30 18:55:36

The leftist commies seem to be shrieking the loudest, all while telling you what new thought crimes they’ve dreamed up on campus.

 
Comment by AmazingRuss
2015-11-30 19:03:01

Pointing out idiocy when I see it does not make me a democrat.

 
Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-11-30 19:06:27

Shriek monkey shriek.

 
Comment by Iceberg
2015-11-30 19:22:42

Worse than a democrat, a Hillary voter.

 
Comment by Ben Jones
2015-11-30 19:31:58

Well lets examine what you said:

‘Destroying the establishment GOP will leave the Tree Monkey GOP’

In 2012 I was a delegate to the Arizona state GOP convention. I had got involved to try to help Ron Paul’s campaign. We got down there and the “establishment GOP” had, “surprise, surprise” just bought some new ballot counting machines that didn’t work. We walked out of there 14 hours later and no vote count. A few weeks later they just said, “it’s all screwed up, Romney wins.” Which is the first thing they told us was going to happen on convention day 10 minutes in.

So pardon me if I don’t share your enthusiasm for the establishment GOP.

 
Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-11-30 20:01:58

It’s all rigged. The whole fawkin’ thing is rigged. Pre-selected candidates, coordinated media reporting, coordinated elections, coordinated everything.

High five to you for making effort to bust it up.

 
Comment by Tarara Boomdea
2015-11-30 20:34:45

Ben: In 2012 I was a delegate to the Arizona state GOP convention. I had got involved to try to help Ron Paul’s campaign.

Same here in Nevada. Went up to Sparks as a delegate. There were some “problems” with the vote count. Talking to the GOP drones there made my head hurt.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-11-30 04:41:26

crater

Comment by "Auntie Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2015-11-30 12:13:55

I hope you had a good Thankscrater.

Comment by Professor Bear
2015-11-30 20:26:34

Where ya been, Auntie?

Comment by "Auntie Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2015-12-01 11:44:42

Oh, here and there.

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Comment by palmetto
2015-11-30 05:40:28

There’s an easy way to handle this. Just round up Angie baby and a bunch of her henchmen and women, toss ‘em into the shelter, yell “Lunch!” and shut the door.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/german-police-tackle-mass-brawl-at-berlin-refugee-shelter/ar-AAfNbSY?ocid=ansmsnnews11

 
Comment by Blue Skye
2015-11-30 06:19:39

“People often forget that it actually costs energy to produce solar panels. Whether they will in turn produce enough energy during their lifetime to make this investment viable remains questionable…”

“With the subsidization scam in Spain reaching its limit, it turns out that not even sunny climes can keep solar boondoggles afloat. In the current case, a cool $29 billion (€27.3 bn.) in liabilities have just been exposed to intense vaporization danger, as “green energy” company Abengoa has finally filed for bankruptcy.

“It is the by far biggest bankruptcy in Spain’s history. 24,000 employees will have to look for a new job… More than 200 banks are creditors of Abengoa, with total exposure of €20.2 billion. Abengoa’s business activities are described as “renewable electricity generation, converting biomass into biofuel and desalination of seawater” – practically a what’s what list of businesses that cannot possibly survive without subsidies.”

Poof!

Global leaders meeting in Paris to discuss how to do more of this.

http://www.acting-man.com/?p=41628

Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2015-11-30 07:36:01

The Exxon School of Climate Studies.

Why do so many Americans doubt that global warming is real?

http://www.voicenews.com/articles/2015/11/23/news/doc564f3f78f34de722599233.txt?viewmode=fullstory

The natural difficulties of imagining the human role in global warming have been exacerbated by an intensive campaign of brainwashing by the oil companies, coal-burning utilities and extractive industries.

“There’s been a deluge of misinformation that confuses the issue in the mind of the public,” said Pollack.

In other words, it’s not just that American’s are hearing about climate change too infrequently; when they do hear about it, the message is contaminated.

There is a long history of corporations and their paid scientists of waging public relations wars designed to camouflage the causal roles of their products in specific environmental problems and human health issues, said Pollack.

Agro-chemical companies denied the scientific link between pesticides like DDT and bird, fish and animal deformities. The tobacco industry questioned scientific studies that linked smoking and second hand smoke to lung cancer. The coal industry questioned the link between burning coal and acid rain.

For the past 25 years, the fossil fuel industries and their representatives have been trying to suggest that there is no scientific consensus on global warming.

In his talk, Pollack called them “manufacturers and distributors of uncertainty.”

Comment by Blue Skye
2015-11-30 08:54:20

Now some Spaniards think the green revolution is a money loser.

Speaking of oil companies, Brazil, corruption, socialism and environmental disaster; we heard that the Petrobras Chairman stepped down now following the mining disaster on the Rio Doce. What a mess.

Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2015-11-30 09:25:14

Speaking of oil companies, Brazil, corruption, socialism and environmental disaster; ..What a mess.

Your logic is a mess. Why do you act like you care about environmental disasters brought to Brazil by the same companies (BHP Billiton, Vale) that pay money to deny the environmental disasters that you defend? Look below. The corporations that brought the environmental disaster to Brazil pay money to deny environmental disasters that you deny as well. You’re on their team dude. You have no credibility to act like you care about Brazil’s disaster brought upon by companies you defend.

The shadowy world of IPA finances

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-02-24/hamilton-the-shadowy-world-of-ipa-finances/3849006

Last week’s revelations about the Heartland Institute, probably the most important climate science denying organisation in the United States, raise some questions about the murky influence of think tanks on the climate debate in this country……

….the right-wing Melbourne think tank, the Institute of Public Affairs (IPA), which has for many years been the principal originator of anti-climate science propaganda in this country. The IPA is closely linked to the Heartland Institute,….The IPA is notoriously secretive about its sources of funding. Its senior staff have refused to answer journalists’ questions, although over the years enough information has leaked out to suggest that much of its funding has come from the oil and mining industries, including Exxon, Shell, Caltex and BHP-Billiton

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Comment by Blue Skye
2015-11-30 10:04:43

You are wrong. I am not associated with any “group”. I have been an environmental activist since I was a teen and was never impressed with big corporations. I am still involved in environmental activism. My article is about the bankruptcy of “renewable energy” and you attack me for being an agent of some oil company. Sorry, the bankruptcy has nothing to do with the oil companies. It has to do with the failure of government subsidized false conservation enterprises.

Brazil is an important place. You are just another Pineapple Rio. You get a response here mostly because of the wildly outrageous and incredulous statements you so often make. That’s all. The Rio Doce thing BTW is still an international headline. Odd that you lash out in anger at the mention of it. More incredulity.

 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2015-11-30 10:14:21

You get a response here mostly because of the wildly outrageous and incredulous statements you so often make.

There’s nothing outrageous about the facts I present. I get responses because of my facts and the clear manner I present them really make people like you angry. Like now. Because you are unable to counter the facts and logic effectively. It just makes you mad. Sorry.

And I think you are a corporatist. Why? You post climatechange denial smokescreens and you get angry when I post about wealth/income inequality of which corporate power has brought about. You’re not fooling many.

I am not associated with any “group”.

You’re totally associated with the Exxon climate denier club imo. Does that make you even more angry?

 
Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-11-30 10:33:36

As long as Exxon continues to lower their price, I’m with Exxon.

 
Comment by Oddfellow
2015-11-30 11:03:04

It’s just a coincidence that Blue works for the oil industry, it doesn’t color his scientific view. And just another coincidence that he totally agrees with and promotes the oil industry’s view of green energy and global warming.

Just a bunch of coincidences.

 
Comment by Blue Skye
2015-11-30 11:33:57

My work for the oil companies is getting much easier these days as Mafia indicates. Lower prices for gasoline and electricity are as good as getting a raise. Not having to subsidize the “grease my palm” green enterprises would be a nice next step.

 
Comment by In Colorado
2015-11-30 13:34:16

If you like your brown cloud, you can keep your brown cloud.

 
Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-11-30 13:40:01

So long as we all keep our dramatically lower and more affordable energy prices, the economy will recover.

 
 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2015-11-30 09:35:02

we heard that the Petrobras Chairman stepped down …. What a mess.

It’s only a “mess” because I think you’re a corporatist and an apologist for companies like Exxon/BHP. Why are corrupt CEO’s meeting punishment “a mess”?

The good thing about Brazil is corrupt corporate CEO’s and politicians are actually finally going to jail. Unlike the USA. Why does that anger you?

Opinion: Brazil Should Give Thanks Today

http://riotimesonline.com/brazil-news/opinion-editorial/opinion-brazil-should-give-thanks-today/#sthash.2fgwqWKj.dpuf

RIO DE JANEIRO, BRAZIL – In his last posting, the Curmudgeon maintained that to avoid becoming a failed state at least two things are necessary: an independent judiciary and a sense of shame. Writing on this yesterday [Thanksgiving Day], the Curmudgeon is pleased to report that several Brazilian institutions have given a shining example of what Brazil can become with those essentials.

We will start with the independent judiciary, which yesterday ordered a sitting Senator, a billionaire banker and a lawyer to go to jail. Senator Delcidio Amaral was the PT party leader in that chamber. Well respected by most Senators, including the opposition parties, he seemed to be above suspicion.

Yesterday, however, the 1st Panel of the STF unanimously voted to have him arrested for attempting to obstruct justice in the Lava Jato investigations. He and his banker offered hush money to former Petrobras director Nestor Cerveró so as to keep him from mentioning their misdeeds in his plea bargain.

They failed because Mr. Cerveró’s son found a sense of shame, and attended meetings with the senator, the banker and the lawyer where they heard the lawyer say he could arrange to get Mr. Cerveró out of jail by talking to STF Justices; they even plotted a getaway route (via Paraguay to Spain). Notwithstanding the senator’s precautions, the son surreptitiously recorded these meetings and sent the tapes to the federal police; they then went to Judge Moro in Curitiba, who sent them to the STF.

The STF Justices on the panel were outraged. Their own honor called into question, they took the unprecedented step of ordering prison for a sitting senator.

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Comment by snake charmer
2015-11-30 13:26:01

An entertaining story to be sure, but what was that guy’s sentence, and is he going to do time in the Brazilian equivalent of a country club prison? Will he remain free during interminable appeals on procedural grounds? There’s a lot of superficial justice in Latin America. Some these people, unfortunately, serve a minimal prison term and then are returned to political office.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-11-30 08:42:22

You know what Americans care about? Falling energy prices. Falling energy prices to dramatically lower and more affordable levels which accelerate the economy like nothing else. Nothing else.

Update: Crude Oil Craters 40% YoY As Retail Fuel Prices Plummet to $2/gallon

http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/future/crude%20oil%20-%20electronic/historical

Comment by WPA
2015-11-30 09:28:41

Except falling energy prices is not accelerating the economy in Texas or North Dakota. Even the NAR admits home prices are tanking there. Deflation is nice at first but it the end it is destructive.

Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-11-30 10:05:39

Correct. It’s accelerating our economy. Remember…. Falling prices to dramatically lower and more affordable levels raises everyones standard of living.

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Comment by Blue Skye
2015-11-30 10:07:56

Home prices need to tank, there and elsewhere. The real shame about lost bubble jobs is that they were ever created in the first place. Destruction of waste is a good thing.

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Comment by scdave
2015-11-30 12:03:51

The real shame about lost bubble jobs is that they were ever created in the first place ??

So you consider “fracking” a bubble job ??

 
Comment by Blue Skye
2015-11-30 12:49:13

Sort of. It’s been going on for decades, but the boom of recent years with $100/bbl oil was part of the global commodities bubble.

 
Comment by scdave
2015-11-30 14:09:26

Its no different then any other commodities job….The employment will ebb & flow with supply & demand…

 
Comment by Blue Skye
2015-11-30 14:31:22

Sure but this wasn’t a gentle ebb & flow, this was a whopper boom/bust.

 
Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-11-30 15:05:07

…. founded on a global credit bubble thats now coming apart.

 
 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2015-11-30 20:30:02

Hasn’t crude dropped over 60% from the most recent peak price?

 
 
Comment by WPA
2015-11-30 10:20:42

Abengoa’s business activities are described as “renewable electricity generation, converting biomass into biofuel and desalination of seawater”

What a huge leap of logic — a company goes bankrupt so that means the whole sector is a failure.

Worldcom went bankrupt — does that mean all telecom companies are failures?
GM and Chrysler went bankrupt — does that mean all auto companies are failures?
American Airlines went bankrupt — does that mean all airlines are failures?

The anti-green deniers did the same thing with Solyndra, they use that to paint the whole green industry as a failure.

Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-11-30 10:31:17

It is a failure. A market proven failure. You communists don’t like markets though. You want everything for free.

Comment by Puggs
2015-11-30 15:31:39

LOL!!!

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Comment by Blue Skye
2015-11-30 10:49:42

Spain has long been the poster child of the failure of government subsidized “renewable energy” projects. The reason they are now failing is that the Spanish government ran out of money to sustain the subsidy level. This is where the death of solar started.

On the bio-fuels; even our EPA acknowledges that ethanol in our gasoline is a fail. Do you think the EPA is a bunch of idiots? If we all know it is a fail, why are we still doing it? It continues to cause more carbon fuels to be burned to subsidize the ethanol production. Grossly “carbon positive”. Where is the outrage?

Comment by WPA
2015-11-30 12:10:39

ethanol in our gasoline is a fail

Ethanol? Straw man argument made out of corn stalks? Ethanol pre-dated climate change concerns and was not intended as a CO2 reducer. Ethanol was originally designed to do two things: 1) reduce dependence on OPEC (this was pre-fracking) and 2) act as a make work/jobs program for flyover farmers to grow lots of corn.

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Comment by oxide
2015-11-30 12:14:05

EPA acknowledges that corn ethanol is a fail. Corn simply hogs too much water and fertilizer for the amount of solar energy it captures. Other ethanols and other biofuels are not so carbon positive, it seems.

“We are still doing it” in that the corn ethanol requirement is still on the books, but Feinstein and Toomey are proposing to remove it. There is some “outrage” from the corn growers; I’ve seen commercials. Boo hoo.

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Comment by Blue Skye
2015-11-30 12:51:54

“Boo hoo”

Exactly.

 
Comment by taxpayers
2015-11-30 14:32:29

we still have the milk support bureaucracy
gov agencies and workers are perpetual

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Combotechie
2015-11-30 06:25:59

Japan …

“World’s Biggest Pension Fund Loses $64 Billion Amid Equity Rout”

“The fund lost 8 trillion yen on its domestic and foreign equities and 241 billion yen on overseas debt, while Japanese bonds handed GPIF a 302 billion yen gain.”

Ooops. It wasn’t supposed to go this way …

“The loss was GPIF’s first since doubling its allocation to stocks and reducing debt last October, and highlights the risk of sharp short-term losses that come with the fund’s more aggressive investment style. Fund executives have argued that holding more shares and foreign assets is a better approach as Prime Minister Shinzo Abe seeks to spur inflation that would erode the purchasing power of bonds.”

The bondholders were expected to get screwed, not the stockholders.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-11-30/world-s-biggest-pension-fund-loses-64-billion-amid-equity-rout?cmpid=yhoo.headline

 
Comment by palmetto
2015-11-30 06:34:11

Another one from the “I Despise the MSM” file:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/30/business/black-friday-just-a-day-this-year-no-longer-a-bellwether.html?_r=0

I love that word, “bellwhether”. bell·weth·er

noun
the leading sheep of a flock, with a bell on its neck.
an indicator or predictor of something.
“college campuses are often the bellwether of change”
synonyms: harbinger, herald, indicator, predictor
“a bellwether of change”

So, if Black Friday is awesome, it’s a “bellwhether” of a hot economy. If it stinks, it doesn’t mean squat. Lol, it must have been a real stinker this year to prompt the NYT to publish that bit of drivel.

 
Comment by Combotechie
2015-11-30 06:36:45

“Morgan Stanley: Get Ready for a Period of Low Returns in the Market”

(snip)

“However, Bank of America’s call for compounded annual returns of 8 percent from U.S. stocks over the course of the next decade far exceeds Morgan Stanley’s 10-year expected annual return of 5 percent.”

Interesting: The folks at B of A and the folks at Morgan Stanley both have access to the same information but one projects a ten-year return of 8 percent and the other projects a ten-year return of 5 percent.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/morgan-stanley-ready-period-low-122014977.html

Comment by "Auntie Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2015-11-30 12:08:28

That’s a COMPOUNDED annual return over ten years.

 
 
Comment by Goon
2015-11-30 06:46:32

Warmist Warming Monday:

http://www.politico.eu/article/paris-climate-deal-is-meaningless-cop21-emissions-china-obama/

“This sucker could go down” — George W. Bush

Comment by Goon
2015-11-30 07:41:48

Huffington Post headline right now reads:

“LAST CHANCE TO SAVE THE WORLD”

With an assortment of alarmist clickbait below that. Global warming is real. It is caused by humans. But unfortunately, infinite growth is not possible in a finite ecosystem. And no, the world will not be saved.

Happy Monday and enjoy the dieoff :)

Comment by Goon
2015-11-30 08:21:40

New York Times (real journalists) provide the following narrative:

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/projects/cp/climate/2015-paris-climate-talks

Comment by taxpayers
2015-11-30 08:43:50

can WPA please post the carbon tax send in form?

it’s about world tax, not carbon

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Comment by redmondjp
2015-11-30 17:01:56

Exactly. Us rich countries must pay poor countries because we generate too much carbon.

But China’s carbon output hasn’t even peaked yet. And nobody is going to do anything about that.

The whole climate conference is nothing but a bunch of hot air. Think of how much less CO2 would have been generated if everybody had just stayed home and done the conference virtually.

But on the flip side, our state’s governor, and a local city councilperson, are enjoying a really nice vacation in France right now.

 
 
 
 
Comment by phony scandals
2015-11-30 09:16:33

Why the Paris climate deal is meaningless

The more seriously you take the need to reduce greenhouse-gas emissions, the angrier you should be.

By OREN CASS

11/29/15, 5:22 PM CET
Updated 11/30/15, 6:45 AM CET

Hey Oren…

Don’t Worry Be Happy - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-diB65scQU - 395k -

Comment by palmetto
2015-11-30 09:46:23

What I find interesting is how world leaders seem to be able to come and go from these “summits” with nary a scratch, but yet ordinary folks are targets of these so-called “terrists”.

Something weird about this.

Comment by AmazingRuss
2015-11-30 12:45:10

You don’t usually see them, but the attendees travel wit cadres of heavily armed goons, that would send the jihadis to Allah before the got a shot off.

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Comment by Oddfellow
2015-11-30 21:42:02

Yeah, there’s probably a little more security at a summit of world leaders than at a music club in Paris.

 
 
 
Comment by taxpayers
2015-11-30 10:07:25

China-Russia-India will never comply = meaningless

Comment by Blue Skye
2015-11-30 10:09:46

The Asian countries will certainly comply to the extent that they receive monies in exchange for promises.

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Comment by oxide
2015-11-30 14:41:24

China doesn’t give a fig about climate change or CO2. They are getting rid of coal because of the other pollutants it creates, such as smog. I guess it’s cheaper to build renewables and nukes than it is to scrub sox nox and soot from existing coal stacks.

Cutting down on CO2 is just a side effect that they can exploit for maximum PR.

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Comment by palmetto
2015-11-30 06:49:19

Bwa-ha-ha-ha! Here’s a good anecdote: The Amazon warehouse one town over from us is desperate, DESPERATE for personnel. So much so, they’re advertising on the local Fox News station. Bwa-hah-hah-hah! They thought they were going to have hordes of the 2nd and 3rd generation of immigrants from south of the border, all lined up. Bwa-hah-hah-hah, they pizz on those $10.00/hour warehouse jobs humping crap off the shelves and into boxes (not to mention the 20 minute theft check taken out of the lunch break). Bwa-hah-hah-HAH!

Merry Christmas, Meerkat!

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Meerkat_At_the_zoo_Novosibirsk_Siberia.jpg

Comment by MightyMike
2015-11-30 07:38:23

They thought they were going to have hordes of the 2nd and 3rd generation of immigrants from south of the border, all lined up.

This notion probably exists only in your brain.

Comment by palmetto
2015-11-30 07:53:45

I wish that were true, but that is pretty much the labor force around here. OTOH, the Lakeland Florida facility is doing just fine.

Companies like Amazon study an area carefully before making a major investment and labor force is of course a major part of it. Those jobs were touted as $12.00/hour jobs and Amazon gets major tax abatement.

Then the pay shrank to $10.00/hour. My guess is the politicians said $12.00, Amazon said $10.00 and Amazon won.

The labor force makes more money doing other things.

My guess is they’ll shut down and sell off the facility, and keep Lakeland. It’s a biz decision. A buddy of mine sells on Amazon and has to ship stuff to various warehouses around the country. Only once has he been directed to ship to the local warehouse.

Comment by Oddfellow
2015-11-30 09:27:20

I would think they are ramping up hiring for the holiday rush, and will thin them out afterwards. If they’re still desperately looking for people in January, then they may have a problem.

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Comment by palmetto
2015-11-30 10:04:34

Normally that would make sense, but it was a tad startling to see an ad on the local Fox broadcast news. I’ve never seen that before, and it was over the Thanksgiving weekend, it seems a little late to be ramping up for holiday rush.

They’ve done advertising on all the job boards, craigslist, even using recruitment companies. I’ve been following this on a sort of dilettante basis, every since they started building the facility. I thought it was a good thing at first, because of the massive USDA Homes for Hillsborough projects in the area. Seemed like a good thing for the American born children of the immigrants living there. $12.00 an hour, while not great, seemed like reasonable warehouse entry level in this part of Florida. Then, like I said, it dropped to $10.00, when the positions were finally advertised.

And there’s not been the sort of traffic you’d think a facility like that would generate. Not that I mind, but I really thought we’d see more.

Well, this sort of thing happens, some locations work out, others don’t. The town in which the warehouse is located has been a hard luck area practically since its founding.

 
 
 
 
Comment by snake charmer
2015-11-30 13:33:29

I was hoping you would write about how that place was doing. I’ve read that those jobs are very hard physically, and we are not exactly the most in-shape state in the U.S., so I could see a scenario in which recruiting and retention proved more difficult than expected, even at $12 per hour.

 
 
Comment by Combotechie
2015-11-30 06:53:03

Wow, these guys at NOAA are really, really good!; Their predictions can extend out to a thousand years! Amazing!

“The view has been gathering support at least since 2009 when scientists from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration concluded that
‘“the climate change that is taking place because of increases in carbon dioxide concentration is largely irreversible for 1,000 years after emissions stop.’”

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/saving-the-world-may-be-1310073531105334.html

Comment by Blue Skye
2015-11-30 08:18:43

The entire amount of CO2 in the atmosphere is turned over via the oceans in less than 10 years. 98% of the CO2 gas on the planet is dissolved in the oceans, where it is processed into mineral deposits.

NOAA Hansen disciples corrupted the North American temperature records. The cooling trend going into 1975 is now completely gone from the record. This is why we will continue to have record hot years continually whether there is any warming or not. Thanks Jim!

Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2015-11-30 09:13:20

NOAA Hansen disciples corrupted the North American temperature records…This is why we will continue to have record hot years continually whether there is any warming or not.

Thanks for the smoke screen special.

North America represents less than 5% of the earth’s surface area, the North America data wasn’t corrupted and scientists are referring to global record temperatures not just North American temperatures. Fail.

Comment by palmetto
2015-11-30 09:40:35
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Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2015-11-30 14:02:39

Here’s a smoke screen special for ya:

So 25 is “safe” but they’re seeing 700-1000! (But it wont harm the atmosphere because the wind will dissipate it.)

Authorities issue rare orange alert as air pollution in Beijing hits hazardous levels

….The World Health Organization considers the safe level of PM2.5 particles to be 25 micrograms per cubic meter ….The U.S. Embassy in Beijing reported 666 micrograms per cubic meter…..Outside Beijing, the readings were as high as 976 micrograms

 
 
 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2015-11-30 09:50:31

NOAA Hansen disciples corrupted the North American temperature records. The cooling trend going into 1975 is now completely gone from the record.

Data “gone from the record”? How? Was this “top secret” data that only NOAA had? How can data be gone from the record if you know about the data?

Scientific extrapolative and smoothing adjustments are always done to those types of data. You just don’t like the implications.

So far I’ve seen no credible groups of scientists confronting how the data was adjusted. Just some Exxon supported loons on the right screaming about science they don’t understand. And having a witch-hunt.

““The data that comprised the analysis is publicly available. The scientific process is publicly available. You don’t need a special subpoena to reproduce the science.”

NOAA climate feud: Pursuit of scientific truth vs. public accountability

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/federal-eye/wp/2015/11/17/noaa-climate-feud-pursuit-of-scientific-truth-vs-public-accountability/

….James Hansen, the retired NASA climate scientist who issued the clearest warning about the 20th century about the dangers of global warming, said, “they’re looking for anything where they can make it appear something is untoward” with climate research. He was forced to turn over his e-mails to the Competitive Enterprise Institute, “but they didn’t find anything juicy.”

Comment by Blue Skye
2015-11-30 10:31:35

Sounds like you need a little of some “smoothing adjustments”.

Hansen directed NOAA and the “adjustments” to the database are the only proof of warming. The adjustments were significantly bigger than the claimed warming that they proved.

Only a “loon” would think this incredible. We would actually like to know the truth, but it won’t be had from these government agencies. An hundred little lies do not add up to be truth.

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Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2015-11-30 11:16:21

a little of some “smoothing adjustments”.

Here’s a “smoothing adjustment” you tried to slip past the HBB today imo, but it wasn’t so smooth BlueSky.

“NOAA Hansen disciples corrupted the North American temperature records….This is why we will continue to have record hot years continually whether there is any warming or not.” BlueSky

So BlueSky, you alleged and implied that the Global record hot years now and in the future, are (and will be) nearly meaningless because North American data was “corrupted”.

The two main problems with you “smoothing adjustment” are:

1. The record temperatures are global, not just North America, therefore the N.American data would only have a small effect on global temperature data. Therefore the global record temperatures indicate scientifically legit warming.

2. The North American data has not proven to be corrupted anyway.

Did you make this smokescreen because you fear we are getting hotter and know record heat records will keep coming? So you’ll discount them ahead of time? Or you just made a mistake?

For now, I’d rate the above smokescreen to be a bit outrageous but for sure Incredulous .

 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2015-11-30 12:02:25

Does “Incredulous” mean like when someone bashes the credibility of government agencies in one post, but then touts their credibility in another post? And on the same day?

From today’s HBB:

“We would actually like to know the truth, but it won’t be had from these government agencies”
BlueSky

“even our EPA acknowledges that ethanol in our gasoline is a fail. Do you think the EPA is a bunch of idiots?”
BlueSky

 
Comment by Blue Skye
2015-11-30 12:58:38

Confused by those comments?

The truth always comes out eventually, despite the efforts of anklebiting Pineapples.

 
Comment by redmondjp
2015-11-30 17:06:19

The temperature data has been manipulated in many ways.

One of these ways was to eliminate rural sensors, which were often at higher elevations, and replace them with sensors in warmer, urban areas at lower elevations.

Presto! Now things are warmer than before.

 
 
 
 
Comment by "Auntie Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2015-11-30 12:03:34

I would like to know why so many non-scientists are so emotionally invested in making sure never to believe that global warming is real. It has become like a religious argument.

Comment by Blue Skye
2015-11-30 13:03:11

I don’t know about the non-scientists, but my opinion is that if something is real important, we should be able to examine it for flaws and BS. If we can trim it down beyond the BS, then we have something to evaluate. Why is this such a bad approach?

Comment by "Auntie Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2015-11-30 14:45:11

It seems that many are adamantly searching for any flaws or BS they can find, even when patently imaginary or irrelevant.

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Comment by Rental Watch
2015-11-30 15:09:50

I tend to agree with you Blue. However, many would argue on the other side that IF the global temperature rises enough, the resultant costs are high enough to warrant action even if such global temperature rise is an outlier likelihood.

From what I can tell:

1. The climate is constantly changing, and has always changed;
2. Humans are causing the release of stuff into the atmosphere that in theory should either directly or indirectly lead to warming;
3. The extent of warming is hotly (no pun intended) disputed–in large part because the indirect effects of the aforementioned “stuff” is less well understood than the direct effects;
4. There is a huge amount of data that people are looking at, and some recent historical data has been “adjusted” to some degree. Some say the “adjustments” are rational, others disagree. The “adjustments” have led to a more significant warming trend (some would say the adjustments have created the warming trend).
5. There is a wide range of potential warming potential over the next 100 years, which leads to a wide potential range of sea level rise over the next 100 years. On one end, there isn’t much cause for concern. On the other end there are big problems. I’ve heard at least one knowledgeable person state that the bad outlier has become less likely over the past several years based on more data collection, not more likely.
6. A look at global temperatures over geologic time indicate that warmer temperatures are not a problem for earth or life on it…higher temperatures are mainly just a problem for people’s comfortable living on earth.

In our everyday lives, we would buy insurance for such risks. Is it rational to “buy insurance” for climate change by spending resources to change our behaviors? How much should we spend? What should we do?

Depending on where you fall on some of the detailed arguments (like the chance for a bad outlier event) dictate whether you are alarmed, or whether you are not alarmed.

I hate people throwing around phrases like “climate denier”. That’s like saying someone is an “earthquake denier” because they don’t think it is worthwhile to buy earthquake insurance.

Just because someone doesn’t think we should do much to combat climate change doesn’t mean that they are “backward”, or non-scientific. I just may mean that they are thinking about climate in the context of longer time horizons and/or economic cost of actually making a change that would matter.

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Comment by Raymond K Hessel
Comment by In Colorado
2015-11-30 09:55:54

The Next Tequila Crisis?

The last time Mexico suffered a similar fate was during the 1994 Tequila Crisis when billions of dollars of hot money fled the country northward in the pursuit of rising U.S. interest rates.

In my experience, the money flees Mexico when there are rumors of a devaluation or when the Peso is sliding vs. Uncle Buck. And lately Uncle Buck has been kicking sand in the Peso’s face.

 
 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-11-30 07:01:11
Comment by palmetto
2015-11-30 07:21:38

Whoa, there was some speculation this might happen, but yeah, that was fast.

 
Comment by palmetto
2015-11-30 07:44:06

Russia bans Soros foundation as national security threat. Too bad Europe and the US doesn’t follow suit. Ferguson and Baltimore might still be somewhat intact.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-30/russia-bans-soros-foundation-threat-national-security-and-constitutional-order

Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-11-30 17:05:29

+1. Soros hand-picked Obama for the presidency, and now he’s backing Hillary. He is the epitome of evil incarnate and crony capitalism run amok.

 
 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2015-11-30 08:07:06

That escalated quickly….

Tried to pull “story” from other site: It said “Garbage article from garbage site”

This thread has been pulled.
Pulled on 11/29/2015 11:52:52 PM PST by Admin Moderator, reason:
Garbage article from garbage site

Turkey blockading Russia from Dardanelles; Black Sea fleet …
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3366237/posts
7 hours ago - Turkey has begun a defacto blockade of Russian naval vessels, preventing transit through the Dardanelles and the Strait of Bosporus, between …

 
 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-11-30 07:03:09

Odd that our oligarch-owned MSM chooses not to print stories like this that are at odds with the memes the necons are pushing.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/david-cameron-there-arent-70000-moderate-fighters-in-syria-and-whoever-heard-of-a-moderate-with-a-a6753576.html

 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-11-30 07:07:10
Comment by palmetto
2015-11-30 07:32:16

What’s he gonna do, say “Shame on You”?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8DrfjqiYrY

Comment by palmetto
2015-11-30 07:37:04

What has been seen, can’t be unseen, lol.

 
 
Comment by AmazingRuss
2015-11-30 08:07:35

The secret communication came in via skull implanted satellite receiver this morning: Destroy all DaddyStaters!

 
 
Comment by Goon
2015-11-30 07:09:44

Rallying the base

Breitbart has the following articles titled:

“Two Israelis convicted of 2014 burning alive of Palestinian teen”

“Hamas building sophisticated ‘tunnel city’ under Gaza”

“Iran’s Khamenei: Israel more ‘barbaric’ than Paris terrorists”

American taxpayers, why should you be responsible for paying for any of this? Why are you allowing yourselves to be manipulated by neocons? Is making the Rapture happen sooner worth borrowing more money for another trillion dollar neocon war?

Comment by Goon
2015-11-30 07:20:20

The Washington Times is published by the Unification Church, which means that it is a Moonie rag. If you consider yourself a Christian, why would you read something published by Moonies? Because neocon. Article titled:

“Ayatollah dashes Obama moderation hopes, reaffirms commitment to Iran’s islamic revolution”

All these wars are gonna be really expensive. Iran is a really big country with a big population too. But that’s ok, American taxpayers are just a fat cow to be milked by neocons. With enough manipulation, they’ll pay for anything the neocons want.

 
 
Comment by Goon
2015-11-30 07:33:40

Rallying the base

Washington Times (the Moonie rag) has an article titled:

“Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders use faulty data to support marijuana reform”

I’m not voting for either of those two, but HBB readers need to be reminded that Sheldon Adelson spent five million dollars to defeat a medical marijuana ballot initiative in Florida in 2014.

No “smaller government” or “less regulations” or “lower taxes” happening there.

Colorado taxpayers are getting TABOR refunds from marijuana revenue next year.

Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-11-30 08:10:13

If Sheldon Adelson is against it, then I’m for it on general principle.

Comment by AmazingRuss
2015-11-30 08:32:16

Saves you all the trouble of forming your own opinions.

 
Comment by Goon
2015-11-30 08:32:22

Sheldon Adelson is the embodiment of Absolute Evil.

Comment by Rental Watch
2015-11-30 10:04:33

Wait, I though the Koch brothers were Absolute Evil. Have they given up the title?

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Comment by AmazingRuss
2015-11-30 13:25:14

They are Penultimate Evil. It’s an important distinction.

 
Comment by In Colorado
2015-11-30 13:29:04

When will this wonderful recession come along?

They’re all members of the Injustice League and the Yellow Lantern Corps, and they all come from the planet Apokolips.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-11-30 08:08:58

If you love your country, your heritage, and your kinsmen, you are a barbarian in the eyes of our oligarch overlords and their propagandists.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/europes-nationalist-barbarians-are-the-real-enemy-of-a-lasting-union-2015-11-30

Comment by MightyMike
2015-11-30 16:07:04

If you love your country, your heritage, and your kinsmen

It does sound pretty collectivist. But as Russ says below, since you despise 95% of your fellow Americans, you’re free of such emotion.

 
 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-11-30 08:12:28

Plutocrats for Clinton are ramping up their efforts to install their crony-capitalist accomplice in the White House, so their unfettered neoliberal looting of the productive economy and the 99% can continue apace.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/hillary-clinton-to-campaign-with-warren-buffett-in-omaha-2015-11-30

Comment by AmazingRuss
2015-11-30 15:23:10

You despise your countrymen, so you must be quite civilized.

 
 
Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-11-30 08:26:20

“NAR Admits Oil Slump Finally Hits Housing Sales”

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-30/nar-admits-oil-slump-finally-hits-housing-sales

As if housing demand at 20 year low isn’t low enough. It falls further.

 
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Comment by palmetto
2015-11-30 08:49:17

As was Joan of Arc.

 
 
Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-11-30 08:34:19

“The Foolish Fed’s Bubble Policy Always Ends Badly”

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-30/larry-lindsey-crushes-steve-liesmans-dreams-foolish-feds-bubble-policy-always-ends-b

“The idea of letting an asset bubble run is literally one of the most foolish things a central bank can do… they always end badly;” crushed the status quo, “Everyone loves the upside but the clean-up is tough… everyone loves a party… but they always end badly with a hangover… at 4am no one thinks the party is going to end but eventually they will have to drive home,” and removed hope, “The Fed is out of ammunition after using too much for too long.”

Comment by WPA
2015-11-30 09:35:00

Yes, we should take economic advice from Bulgaria.

Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-11-30 10:03:54

The quote is in fact from a Fed member. READ the article.

Comment by WPA
2015-11-30 10:26:54

Why should I care what Lindsey, a former GW Bush lackey, thinks about the economy? His belief in trickle-down nonsense automatically disqualifies him from serious consideration.

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Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-11-30 10:29:35

Careful. You’ll break a heel backpedalling like that.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Popping Off
2015-11-30 08:35:33

Sharia Saudi Arabia sentences poet to death for apostasy and blasphemy

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/11/sharia-saudi-arabia-sentences-poet-to-death-for-apostasy-and-blasphemy

““Hundreds of writers around the world have joined human rights groups in urging Saudi Arabia to release a poet who faces the death sentence on charges of ‘apostasy’ for his poetry.” Yet in the West, numerous writers rebuked the Charlie Hebdo cartoonists even after they were murdered, and attacked our Muhammad cartoon contest — both for daring to insult Muslims by transgressing against Sharia blasphemy laws, the same laws by which Ashraf Fayadh has been sentenced to death.”

Sharia is anti-human and is not compatible with the civilized world.

Comment by aNYCdj
Comment by taxpayers
2015-11-30 10:10:22

how many years did he get? or is sharia going to be ok?
county near me added a Muslim holiday

 
 
Comment by "Auntie Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2015-11-30 11:47:28

I think I missed Draw Mohammed day this year. When is it again?

 
 
Comment by Senior Housing Analyst
2015-11-30 08:44:05

Riviera Beach, FL Housing Craters; Prices Fall 10% YoY

http://www.zillow.com/riviera-beach-fl/home-values/

 
Comment by Popping Off
2015-11-30 08:45:30

Swedish village descends into open warfare as citizens fight back against Muslim invaders

http://pamelageller.com/2015/11/swedish-village-descends-into-open-warfare-as-citizens-fight-back-against-muslim-invaders.html/

“A SMALL Swedish village has descended into open warfare after furious locals clashed with migrants in a chilling warning of the dangers associated with mass migration.”

No sharia, no peace…No sharia, no peace…No sharia, no peace.

Coming to a neighborhood near you.

Comment by palmetto
2015-11-30 09:06:32

Meh. They’re fighting the wrong people. Gotta go straight for the elites and government forces that protect the invaders. Make the police fire on and arrest their own people.

 
 
Comment by taxpayers
2015-11-30 08:48:11

por que es?

when you search zillow predictions via city- state you get one result and when you click neighborhood you get another prediction

mine is flat on one and +3% on the other. This is a publicly traded company looking might silly.

Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-11-30 08:53:35

What is important here is falling transaction prices.

 
 
Comment by Popping Off
2015-11-30 08:50:40

Austrian Muslim fighter: “Hamburg and Berlin are our cities!”

http://pamelageller.com/2015/11/austrian-muslim-fighter-hamburg-and-berlin-are-our-cities.html/

“It’s not as if they haven’t been telling us, in no uncertain terms, their intentions, goals and objectives.”

“Western leaders’ response is to go after …. the islamophobes. That’s worked out just splendidly, hasn’t it?”

“Related: Austrian Muslim Fighter Mohamed Mahmoud Calls on Muslims in Austria, Germany to Wage Islamic Attacks at Home” “take a large knife and go to the street and slaughter every infidel you find””

Comment by palmetto
2015-11-30 09:02:56

Heh, WW3, European theater. Except this time the collaborators were successful in letting in enemy troops. Yeah, this is what our veterans of WW1 and WW2 fought for, replace one set of Nazis with another.

Oh, heck, yeah, strike up the band with a rousing rendition of “Over There”.

 
Comment by Bill, Just south of Irvine
2015-11-30 09:06:39

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-30/sweden-no-apartments-no-jobs-no-shopping-without-gun

Seems the American “progressives” who hate the right to self defense by firearms are just dreaming that Sweden is a “gun free” zone. Now Swedes are carrying.

 
Comment by "Auntie Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2015-11-30 11:35:33

Islam is the religion of pieces.

Comment by palmetto
2015-11-30 11:50:09

Auntie, you just hit it out of the park. Thanks for the laugh.

Comment by "Auntie Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2015-11-30 14:43:29

This blog about sums it up. It also has some nice commentary about the modern misuse of the word “atheist”, which has been getting on my nerves lately:

http://www.thedivineconspiracy.org/isl.htm

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Comment by phony scandals
2015-11-30 08:54:13

If I had an elephant, he wouldn’t look anything like Trump’s elephant.

Supporters pack arena for Donald Trump rally

By: Crystal Clark

Posted:Nov 28 2015 08:16AM EST
Updated:Nov 29 2015 08:01AM EST

SARASOTA (FOX 13) - There were long lines of supporters outside of Sarasota’s Robarts Arena for a Donald Trump rally on Saturday.

Doors opened at 9:30 a.m. for the free campaign event, with lines of people waiting to get inside wrapping around the block.

While only 4,500 seats were available inside the arena, according to Trump’s campaign team, an estimated 14,000 people were expected to show up to the event.

“I became a citizen in 2012. This will be my first time voting,” said Maritess Trosper, who is originally from the Philipines. “I am not illegal in the country. I did all the things I had to do, but it’s not fair for me. They are trying to support these illegals. I am not paying my tax just to support lazy people or illegals. No way!” said Trosper before a cheering crowd.

Trump could face questions in the days ahead for an unusual stunt at Saturday’s rally. An elephant was paraded through the crowd of people waiting to get inside. Trump’s name was written on the elephant’s body as well as his campaign slogan “Make America Great.”

Animal activists quickly expressed their disapproval as pictures began circulating on social media.

It’s unclear if Trump’s campaign team had any involvement in bringing the animal to the event.

 
Comment by inchbyinch
2015-11-30 09:10:41

oxide
OT, but you might be helpful.
Have any suggestions for a reasonably priced Hyaluronic Acid & Retinol face product, that is Paraben-free? Any feedback on Cream vs. Serum?

Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-11-30 09:20:13

I heard they use Pocket Lint mixed with mud in the urban ghettos.

 
Comment by oxide
2015-11-30 10:38:00

I didn’t study the bio end of science, sorry. And I’m too young to have to know what this stuff is; I had to look it up on Amazon. (they have some items under-$15.)

Comment by inchbyinch
2015-11-30 12:07:06

oxide
I apologize. They inject it as well (Dermatologist or Plastic Surgeon), but I’m in the facelift camp. Buy an older car, but wear a newer face. (Joan Rivers) I’m in her camp.

Comment by Tarara Boomdea
2015-11-30 12:40:38

Use a buf-puf.

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Comment by Tarara Boomdea
2015-11-30 14:08:53

Just remembered this site. If anyone knows, they do:
essentialdayspa.com

 
 
Comment by Popping Off
2015-11-30 09:18:29

Saudi Arabia Refuses To Take Even A Single Syrian Refugee

http://www.infowars.com/saudi-arabia-refuses-to-take-even-a-single-syrian-refugee/

“If Saudi Arabia won’t take in Syrian refugees, why should the United States? In recent weeks, we have heard a whole lot from Barack Obama about our “moral obligation” to take in refugees from Syria.”

 
Comment by Senior Housing Analyst
2015-11-30 09:18:47

Mukilteo, WA Housing Craters; Prices Plummet 8% YoY

http://www.zillow.com/mukilteo-wa-98275/home-values/

 
Comment by WPA
2015-11-30 09:43:41

Hillary, you’re singing my song.

Hillary Clinton Calls for $275 Billion in Federal Infrastructure Spending

America cannot have a strong economy without a well-maintained and functioning infrastructure. The private sector cannot produce anything without water treatment, sewage plants, electricity, roads, trash disposal, and so on.

Unfortunately our KnuckleDragging Neanderthal congress-critters would rather see our infrastructure crumble to dust than violate their Norquist pledges. Avoiding a tax increase doesn’t do you any good if you can’t get to the grocery store or the doctor because the bridge is out.

Comment by 2banana
2015-11-30 09:59:51

What happened to the trillion dollar obama shovel ready jobs stimulus?

There shouldn’t be a bridge unpainted or road not repaved.

The truth is it went to public unions. To prevent layoffs at the state and local levels and to fund their cadiallic health care.

Paying back the base.

Comment by WPA
2015-11-30 10:10:17

I won’t defend Obama’s “stimulus” — it was mostly soft money to state and local government, increases in payments to individuals, and so on. Out of the $831 Bil package only $105 Bil went to infrastructure. OTOH, Bloomberg and PBS estimated the total cost of the bank bailouts to be $12 Trillion in payments, loans and guarantees.

Comment by 2banana
2015-11-30 10:15:36

Insanity is defined as doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

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Comment by WPA
2015-11-30 10:30:43

Insanity is having a leaky roof and not fixing it.

Congress thinks if they keep cutting taxes and lowering spending, the trickle down tooth fairy will fix the infrastructure.

You can’t drown the government in the bathtub if the water treatment plant is broken.

 
Comment by oxide
2015-11-30 10:48:04

No, I think banana is right this time.

“the private sector cannot produce anything without water treatment, sewage plants, electricity, roads, trash disposal,”

Where have you been, WPA? The private sector is already taking over electricity, roads, and trash disposal.

 
Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-11-30 10:48:10

I thought water was bucketed out of canals in Brazil?

 
Comment by 2banana
2015-11-30 10:51:21

So where did the trillion dollar shovel ready stimulus go?

Amazing how we built water treatment plants without trillion dollar annual obama deficits and stimulus in the past.

Never let a crisis go to waste…

To pay back your political cronies

 
Comment by WPA
2015-11-30 12:21:06

Where have you been, WPA? The private sector is already taking over electricity, roads, and trash disposal.

Out here in California we have mostly FREEways, publicly paid for. I have also been back east and driven on your silly toll roads. How stupid it is to make all of the traffic stop to pay money at a toll booth, wasting both fuel and time. Far more efficient to pay gas taxes at the pump. I’m thankful for our FREEways — FREE of ridiculous toll booths — public infrastructure should be public.

 
Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-11-30 12:40:36

Which is another example of many why California is the poorest state in the US.

 
Comment by CHE
2015-11-30 13:31:28

3,500 full-time useless employees at Caltrans costing taxpayers $500 million a year.

Why again should be funnel even MORE money to infrastructure?

http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/dan-walters/article2599870.html

 
Comment by oxide
2015-11-30 16:21:40

To be fair, back when all the infrastructure was built, we had high employment of healthy Greatest Generation and early Boomers, all of them working and paying plenty taxes in. The public union workers were also working, but they worked for low pay because they knew they would get the pensions decades late, so states weren’t paying taxes out.

You also had a sense of national pride, so the private companies and contractors who got the infrastructure projects didn’t skin the public monies alive for greed-is-good profit like they do now (how? Ask Liberace Joe).

Well now it’s decades later. We have plenty of workers but the jobs went overseas or got automated away, now it’s time for the union workers to get their due, and infrastructure is just another “needs” industry to be fleeced by the modern mob, aka “public-private partnerships.” :roll: Is it any wonder the states are broke?

 
 
 
Comment by aNYCdj
2015-11-30 17:46:25

exactly there was 2500 federally funded jobs for nyc, and 90% went to the parks dept which is 86% minority. they had budgeted a nice chunk of money to help retrain people so i applied their website had Final cut pro and adobe audtion classes that were approved , I did all the paperwork, interviews at the school letter of reccomondation, and after 6 weeks the decison was…… nope the website was lying instead they needed and would pay for me to get my CDL license and drive for Fresh Direct. ….yup payback

 
 
Comment by phony scandals
2015-11-30 10:39:01

“Hillary, you’re singing my song.”

Why are you one of Hillary’s bundlers?

Transparently Corrupt: Links between Obama’s Campaign Donors, Stimulus, and Energy Loans Share Print

By Ashton Ellis
Wednesday, April 18 2012

Energy Loans to Losers

So far, the most famous example of an Obama campaign donor cashing-in on green energy money is Solyndra investor George Kaiser. Kaiser, a billionaire, raised at least $50,000 for Obama’s 2008 campaign. In March 2009, Kaiser’s investments in Solyndra paid off handsomely when the Department of Energy extended the company a $535 million loan to build a new facility in Fremont, CA.

Three years later, Solyndra is bankrupt, but Kaiser is sitting pretty. In subsequent negotiations, the Energy Department agreed to let private investors like Kaiser jump ahead of taxpayers in the creditor line if Solyndra went belly-up. With the company insolvent, a creditor’s ability to recoup his losses depends on how many others must be compensated before him.

cfif.org/…y-corrupt-links-between-obamas-campaign-donors-stimulus-and-energy-loans - 80k -

 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-11-30 17:16:06

How can we maintain our “no oligarch left behind” monetary policies AND fund $275B in infrastructure projects?

 
 
Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-11-30 10:07:44

Global credit bubble jobs go poof.

“Recession Looms As Dallas Fed Manufacturing Contracts 11th Month In A Row”

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-30/recession-looms-dallas-fed-manufacturing-contracts-11th-month-row

Comment by MightyMike
2015-11-30 10:52:12

A recession is always looming. Can they be specific? When is it going to happen?

Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-11-30 11:17:38

Don’t fret SnowFlake. A full tilt good old fashioned US recession is what puts the economy back on track.

Comment by MightyMike
2015-11-30 11:36:45

So you think that it’s good news that is looming. But you won’t say when. When will this wonderful recession come along?

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Comment by AmazingRuss
2015-11-30 11:41:54

He’s an Armageddon cult of one.

 
Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-11-30 12:31:45

Armageddon?

Pull yourselves up out of the sewer and cheer up and always remember….. Nothing raises your standard of living like falling prices to dramatically lower and more affordable levels. Nothing.

 
Comment by Puggs
2015-11-30 15:29:02

If yer flush with cash a repeat of 2009 will be deal making time.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Senior Housing Analyst
2015-11-30 10:19:16

Happy Valley, OR Housing Craters; Prices Dive 6% YoY

http://www.zillow.com/happy-valley-or-97086/home-values/

 
Comment by rj chicago
2015-11-30 10:35:44

Chicago weekend tally:

8 killed, 20 wounded over holiday weekend

Comment by 2banana
2015-11-30 10:53:07

These black lives don’t matter.

 
Comment by AmazingRuss
2015-11-30 11:40:31

Somebody need to teach them to shoot straight.

Comment by redmondjp
2015-11-30 17:15:17

Hey now, it looks way cooler when you hold the pistol sideways.

 
 
 
Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-11-30 10:46:10

Labor Force Participation Rate Plummets To 37 Year Low; Jobless Population At Record High

http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000

Comment by CalifoH20
2015-11-30 16:24:23

A: What are Baby Boomers?

Comment by Blue Skye
2015-11-30 21:48:55

Baby boomers are the older folks who keep working to keep younger folks from getting jobs.

Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-11-30 22:08:49

And 70 million of them are just starting to die off.

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Comment by CalifoH20
2015-11-30 11:27:00

I can see why so many kooks are anti solar and wind power. They need da $>

http://www.foxbusiness.com/industries/2015/11/30/oil-plunge-raises-fears-societal-unrest/

 
Comment by "Auntie Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2015-11-30 11:28:46

When will the price of oil go up?

Comment by scdave
2015-11-30 12:13:47

When will the price of oil go up ??

When the first shot is fired at Iran…

 
Comment by Blue Skye
2015-11-30 21:47:23

When will the price of oil go up?

July 1. That is when I fill the tanks on the Blue Skye for the next cruise.

Failing that, just after the US sells off its strategic reserves to pay for whatever.

Failing that, perhaps when the next massive global construction boom gets a head of steam.

 
 
Comment by phony scandals
2015-11-30 11:32:01

Skeptical Climate Documentary Set to Rock UN Climate Summit – ‘Climate Hustle’ To Have Red Carpet Premiere in Paris

By: Marc Morano -

November 29, 2015

Featuring interviews and comments from more than 30 renowned scientists and climate experts, Climate Hustle lays out compelling evidence that devastates the global warming scare. Film host Marc Morano, founder and publisher of CFACT’s award-winning Climate Depot news and information service, leads viewers on a fact-finding and often times hilarious journey through the propaganda-laced world of “climate change” claims.

The film is the first climate documentary to profile scientists who have reversed their views from supporting the so-called “consensus” position to a conversion to skepticism. The film also profiles politically left scientists who have now declared themselves skeptics of man-made global warming and United Nations scientists who have now turned against the UN for “distorting” climate science.

Nobel Prize Winning Physicist Dr. Ivar Giaever: ‘Global warming is a non-problem’

‘I say this to Obama: Excuse me, Mr. President, but you’re wrong. Dead wrong.’

‘Global warming really has become a new religion.’

“I am worried very much about the [UN] conference in Paris in November…I think that the people who are alarmist are in a very strong position.’

‘We have to stop wasting huge, I mean huge amounts of money on global warming.’

Read more: http://www.climatedepot.com/2015/11/29/skeptical-climate-documentary-set-to-rock-un-climate-summit-film-to-have-red-carpet-premiere-in-paris/#ixzz3t07KV53O

Comment by WPA
2015-11-30 12:26:11

The above message sponsored by Exxon, Mobil, Chevron and BP.

Comment by CalifoH20
2015-11-30 14:32:28

The above message sponsored by Saudi Arabia, Venezuela, Iran and the other countries relying on oil to pay their bills.

 
Comment by Blue Skye
2015-11-30 21:38:22

Always wetting the bed over Exxon. Maybe it’s the only way you can make sense of all you hear without your head exploding.

Consider that it is your consumer lifestyle that is the sponsor of Exxon and all the problems you blame on anyone but yourself.

 
 
Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-11-30 12:48:06

Cooler summer temperatures, warmer winter temperatures, falling energy prices=big WIN for all of us.

Comment by CalifoH20
2015-11-30 17:59:40

MB/HA’s ignorant post of the month.

Desertification is associated with biodiversity loss and contributes to global climate change through loss of carbon sequestration capacity and an increase in land-surface albedo.

Comment by Blue Skye
2015-11-30 21:41:25

Why exactly, will the earth’s labedo increase?

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Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-11-30 22:06:31

What about my libido? Who is Ha?

Stay out of my personal life Liberace.

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Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-11-30 11:32:05

“Black Friday Wasn’t All That——Sales Down 10%”

http://davidstockmanscontracorner.com/black-friday-wasnt-all-that-sales-down-10/

With a hollowed out debt-saddled economy with a massive jobless population, this news is no surprise.

Comment by rj chicago
2015-11-30 13:01:48

But this ……. :)

Expect Strong Christmas Spending To view this article, Click Here
Brian S. Wesbury, Chief Economist
Robert Stein, Deputy Chief Economist
Date: 11/30/2015

We are watching Christmas season sales data very carefully, but we also warn investors that the early data are not very useful. No matter what initial readings show, the underlying fundamentals look relatively strong.
First, nonfarm payrolls are up 2.8 million in the past twelve months (through October), the strongest one-year increase leading up to a holiday shopping season since Christmas 1999.
Second, we’re seeing early signs of accelerating wage growth. Average hourly earnings have risen 2.5% in the past year, the fastest pace so far in the current Plow Horse economic expansion.

And third, consumers’ financial obligations are still hovering near the lowest share of income since the early 1980s. These are the payments consumers need to make month-in, month-out based on what they’ve already bought, including mortgage payments, rent, car payments, and debt service on student loans, credit cards, and other lending arrangements.
These are the same three key reasons why auto sales have been so strong lately. We expect November auto sales to be 18+ million, on an annualized basis, for a record third month in a row. Strong fundamentals beat cash for clunkers every time.
Some analysts bemoan a decline in credit quality in auto lending, saying the surge in auto sales is due to overly easy credit. For example, the total balance on seriously delinquent auto loans (90+ days in arrears) is up 20% in the past year, according to the NY Federal Reserve. That’s an increase of $6 billion in serious delinquencies. Meanwhile, seriously delinquent student loans are up $14 billion in the past year.
But all serious delinquencies (including mortgage debt, home equity loans, auto loans, student debt, and credit cards, combined) are down $50 billion from a year ago. In other words, the fear-mongers focus on numbers showing tough news, while ignoring the major trend in declining debt delinquency among consumers.
The early surveys on Christmas season spending appear as useful as ever, which is to say not much at all.
Last year, the National Retail Federation said Thanksgiving weekend sales were down 11%, but overall retail sales ended up rising 4% for November/December 2014 versus the same two months in 2013. This year, the NRF says sales should be up 3.7% from a year ago.
Shoppertrak, a survey of 12,000 brick and mortar stores, said Thanksgiving and Black Friday sales were down this year, but noted that sales have crept much earlier into November. We’d add that sales are also more likely to creep deeper into the holiday season, as internet shopping grows more competitive every year.
In the end, don’t get caught up in following the headlines on how sales are going so far. If you focus on the fundamentals, like jobs and wages, you’re likely to get much closer to the truth.

Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-11-30 13:04:10

“But all serious delinquencies (including mortgage debt, home equity loans, auto loans, student debt, and credit cards, combined) are down $50 billion from a year ago.”

With foreclosure moratoriums in effect in all 50 states, does this surprise you?

Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-11-30 17:13:39

“Delinquencies are down” only because of the accounting tricks they’re using to pretend deliquent loans are still performing.

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Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-11-30 17:19:19

Exactly. But really a distinction without a difference.

 
 
 
 
Comment by oxide
2015-11-30 16:35:42

Advantage to shopping online — I don’t have to tolerate that intolerable Christmas music.

 
Comment by Blue Skye
2015-11-30 21:43:52

I have to confess that I have postponed a purchase until today to catch a discount on what I would have bought anyway.

 
 
Comment by WPA
2015-11-30 12:34:01

Euro Watch $1.0564, down -15.3% YoY

Pundits are divided on this — will the Euro and the US Dollar reach parity? Some say the combination of Yellen’s imminent rate raise and ECB’s QE will result in a 1-to-1 currency valuation. Others say the bottom is near and $1.20 will come soon.

If we get parity — or even the Euro worth less than a dollar — it’s time to book that European vacation or buy some gray market goods. Bargains to be had.

 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2015-11-30 12:39:07

Who knew? The Planned Parenthood murderer was a leftist activist transgender. That’s the ticket.
(What is up with the far-right preoccupation with trannys? Seriously, on here, on right-wing blog comments. It’s consistent.)

Ted Cruz cites reports that Planned Parenthood shooter could be ‘transgendered leftist activist.’ What?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/11/30/ted-cruz-cites-reports-that-planned-parenthood-shooter-could-be-transgendered-leftist-activist-what/

….abortion rights advocates and opponents have quickly formed vastly different theories based on their own hand-picked media reports. On one side, Dear is basically what you’d imagine an abortion clinic attacker to be — an antiabortion activist. On the other, as Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) put it Sunday, Dear might be a “transgendered leftist activist.”

Comment by WPA
2015-11-30 12:54:28

FALSE FLAG!

Comment by CalifoH20
2015-11-30 14:34:10

fake videos cost lives.

 
 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-11-30 17:12:23

Ted Cruz is an Elmer Gantry charlatan and Goldman Sachs stalking horse who plays fast and loose with the truth and will say anything to get elected.

The guy who shot up PP was a whack job. Whether he identifies as ‘female” is immaterial: he picked up a firearm and embarked on a murderous shooting spree. Throwing out a bunch of red herrings isn’t going to change the basic facts of this case.

 
 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2015-11-30 12:46:33

I like this. Who could be offended by a sermon on love??

University president rebukes ’self-absorbed, narcissistic’ students

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2015/11/30/university-president-rebukes-self-absorbed-narcissistic-students.html?cmpid=edpick&google_editors_picks=true

A chapel sermon on love left a student at Oklahoma Wesleyan University feeling “offended” and “victimized.”

But instead of capitulating to the offended young scholar, OWU President Everett Piper pushed back with a blistering rebuke of what he called “self-absorbed and narcissistic” students.

“This is not a day care. This is a university,” he wrote in a blog that has since gone viral.

Back home in Tennessee, we call that a “Come to Jesus” moment.

“Our culture has actually taught our kids to be this self-absorbed and narcissistic,” he wrote. “Any time their feelings are hurt, they are victims! Anyone who dares challenge them and, thus, makes them ‘feel bad’ about themselves, is a ‘hater,’ a ‘bigot,’ an ‘oppressor,’ and a ‘victimizer.’”

Oh behalf of a grateful nation, I say, thank you, Dr. Piper.

 
Comment by rj chicago
2015-11-30 13:03:50

Yep - big concussion ball win for the donkey last night there in the Mile High City - Goon be having pizza!!!

Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-11-30 13:06:09

How that happened with out Peyton is a mystery. Brady has to be wearing a mug as though someone pissed in his Cheerios this morning.

 
Comment by In Colorado
2015-11-30 13:06:20

But is the pizza still half off if Manning didn’t play?

Comment by Goon
2015-11-30 18:05:31

Correct.

 
 
 
Comment by Senior Housing Analyst
2015-11-30 13:12:21

Goleta, CA Housing Craters; Prices Plummet 12% YoY

http://www.zillow.com/ca-93117/home-values/

 
Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-11-30 13:14:23

The good news of falling prices just keeps getting better.

“Beef Prices Fall”

http://www.upi.com/Business_News/2015/11/27/Beef-prices-fall-as-fattened-cattle-go-to-market/6561448634992/

Comment by Professor Bear
2015-11-30 20:25:04

Cratering bulls.

 
 
Comment by MightyMike
2015-11-30 13:46:05

Koch “Alliance” on Criminal Justice Reform Exposed as Trojan Horse

The New York Times on Wednesday reported the shocking news that the “rare coalition” on criminal justice reform that included liberal groups and the right-wing billionaire Koch brothers is falling apart.

But as The Intercept’s Lee Fang wrote earlier this month, the ostensible alliance over liberalization of America’s criminal justice laws was based on a misunderstanding of the Koch brothers’ fundamental political goal.

That goal is, quite consistently, to advance their own corporate interests.

So, while the Kochs and the liberal groups used similar language in their critique of the criminal justice system, when it came down to actual legislation, the Kochs were focused on reducing criminal prosecutions of corporations, not people.

Koch and the House Republicans turned out to be pushing a bill that critics describe as a “Get Out of Jail Free” card for white-collar criminals.

https://theintercept.com/2015/11/25/koch-alliance-on-criminal-justice-reform-exposed-as-trojan-horse/

Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-11-30 17:08:05

The prison-industrial complex is one of the creepiest manifestations of crony capitalism and the subversion of our justice system by corporate interests. Prisoners are being treated as units of economic exploitation and neo-slave labor instead of human beings.

Comment by redmondjp
2015-11-30 17:31:42

Economic exploitation? How so? We have mostly eliminated the prison labor system as it was cutting into the profits in the private sector.

 
Comment by aNYCdj
2015-11-30 18:00:30

Raymond there is no discrimination based on race….but there is tons of it based on severe functional illiteracy

we need to eliminate all early release and parole, and treat the convicts like adults, let them decide how long they want to be locked up.

just read and discuss the articles in the NY Times in front of a parole board and ask for a 2nd chance. easy simple and non discriminatory.

 
 
 
Comment by CalifoH20
2015-11-30 14:06:16

Car sales are setting records. Thanks for the recovery!

Comment by taxpayers
2015-11-30 14:33:47

so are food stamps, and welfare payments

did u save $2500 a yr w ACA?

Comment by CalifoH20
2015-11-30 14:51:40

11k boomers turn 65 each day, we knew this was approaching. Yes, they count soc sec and medicare as entitlements.

ps. food stamps are cheaper than jail and keep the money local.

I am a fiscal conservative.

Comment by AmazingRuss
2015-11-30 16:19:00

Pshaw… if we starve them, they’ll just quietly sit there and die.

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Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-11-30 16:31:21

I am a fiscal conservative Liberace.

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Comment by phony scandals
2015-11-30 14:54:28

“Car sales are setting records.”

“so are food stamps, and welfare payments”

LMAO

Comment by In Colorado
2015-11-30 14:56:48

Isn’t pronounced wealth and income inequality an American value?

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Comment by Puggs
2015-11-30 15:24:51

Car loans just surpassed 1Trillion for the first time about a month ago.

Cash is king!!!

 
 
Comment by Senior Housing Analyst
2015-11-30 15:03:14

Fitch: “Losses for U.S. Subprime Auto ABS Top 8% as Prime Inches Higher”

http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20151130005756/en/Fitch-Losses-U.S.-Subprime-Auto-ABS-Top

 
Comment by phony scandals
2015-11-30 15:04:43

A different take on why…

‘Global Warming’ is a Crock of Sh*t - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=silfiTY32xo - 407k - Cached - Similar pages
5 hours ago …

Comment by CalifoH20
2015-11-30 16:25:24

I get all my education on You Tube.

Comment by phony scandals
2015-11-30 18:06:02

You could read the same thing you little fiscal conservative you.

 
 
 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-11-30 16:53:33

To our resident Democrats: do you have tire of coming up with rationalizing away your support for a thoroughly corrupt party and its sleazy politicians?

http://www.businessinsider.com/ap-ex-assembly-speaker-convicted-at-ny-corruption-trial-2015-11

 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-11-30 17:19:21

Unless all of the Freddy Gray defendants are found guilty on all charges and get the maximum sentences, Baltimore is going to burn. This “no justice, no peace” blackmail is going to be the new normal in all our urban centers.

https://www.rt.com/usa/324050-porter-freddie-gray-trial-begins/

 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-11-30 18:18:48

Damning.

Every realtor office in the country should be treated as a crime scene.

 
 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2015-11-30 18:06:35

2016 could well be the last real election we have before Comrade Pelosi’s permanent Democrat Supermajority becomes a reality and our collectivist Long March into the incorporated neoliberal plantation is a fait accompli.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/hhs-record-surge-of-illegal-youths-has-feds-running-out-of-beds/article/2577279?custom_click=rss

 
Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-11-30 20:36:08

Must read

“Life In The Electronic Concentration Camp: The Surveillance State Is Alive & Well”

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-30/life-electronic-concentration-camp-surveillance-state-alive-well

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2015-12-01 01:10:06

Reading this story makrs me feel slightly better about the meager though positive returns on my defined contribution plan savings this year.

Comment by Professor Bear
2015-12-01 01:12:57

Marketwatch dot com
The Wall Street Journal
World’s largest public pension fund posts $64 billion loss
By Eleanor Warnock
Published: Nov 30, 2015 8:50 a.m. ET
Loss for Japan’s Government Pension Investment Fund comes after stock selloff
Bloomberg News/Landov
Takahiro Mitani, president of the Government Pension Investment Fund (GPIF), pictured in July.

Japan’s public pension reserve fund, the largest of its kind in the world, posted its biggest quarterly loss since the financial crisis for the quarter through September, dragged down by a global stock selloff.

The Government Pension Investment Fund lost 7.89 trillion yen ($64.22 billion) in the three months to September, or 5.59%, bringing the value of its total assets to ¥135.1 trillion. That was the largest percentage-point fall on quarter since 2008. Of the four major asset classes the GPIF invests in, three — domestic stocks, foreign stocks and foreign bonds — posted negative returns in the quarter.

The release gives a view of how pension funds, endowments and sovereign-wealth funds around the world were hit by a global selloff that erased trillions of dollars in value from financial markets amid concerns about growth in China and expectations for an interest-rate increase in the U.S. Norway’s sovereign-wealth fund, the largest in the world, lost 4.9% in the third quarter, its worst quarter in four years.

The GPIF’s domestic stockholdings fell by 12.78% in the July-to-September period, and foreign stockholdings fell by 10.97%.

 
 
Comment by phony scandals
2015-12-01 08:05:38

By AFP

3:00PM GMT 30 Nov 2015

Large swathes of Shanghai, Mumbai, New York and other cities will slip under the waves even if an upcoming climate summit limits global warming to two degrees Celsius, scientists reported on Sunday.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/…lip-under-the-waves-with-two-degree-rise-in-temperatures.html -

 
Comment by Goon
2015-12-01 17:09:02

the Grateful Dead — “He’s Gone” Live in Europe ‘72

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvWO0h_TNeM

They played this here last Wednesday (Kreutzman, Weir, Hart) and did an excellent rendition of “Eyes Of The World” that went on for over 20 minutes…

 
Comment by Goon
2015-12-01 17:45:03

FoxNewsHate provides the following narrative:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/12/01/saved-us-money-rubio-wins-conservative-cred-for-obamacare-change.html?intcmp=hpbt4

Identify your narrative.

Know your narative.

 
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