December 1, 2015

A Lot Of Investment Money Looking For A Home

A report from the Los Angeles Times, “PennyMac, AmeriHome Mortgage and Stearns Lending have several things in common. All are among the nation’s largest mortgage lenders — and none of them is a bank. They’re part of a growing class of alternative lenders that now extend more than 4 in 10 home loans. All are headquartered in Southern California, the epicenter of the last decade’s subprime lending industry. And all are run by former executives of Countrywide Financial. This time, the executives say, will be different. Still, some observers worry as housing markets heat up across the country and in Southern California, where prices are up by a third since 2012. A small down payment was attractive for Abraham and Crystal Cardona. They both have high credit scores, approaching 800, but in September they chose an FHA loan from a nonbank lender when they bought a $500,000 home in La Mirada.”

“The minimal down payment of $17,000 left them enough savings to buy a few appliances and put a fence around their backyard pool. ‘We were thinking about what our monthly payment was going to be, not where the loan was coming from,’ said Abraham Cardona, 32.”

“There’s market share to be gained from originating loans outside those standards. Irvine’s Impac Mortgage, a publicly traded nonbank lender, nearly went bust during the housing crisis because it specialized in Alt-A mortgages, loans extended without proof of income or assets. Now it’s back in the lending business, largely originating standard, government-backed loans. But about a year ago it started offering ‘AltQM’ loans, as in: alternative to qualified mortgages. These higher-rate mortgages might feature interest-only payment periods, adjustable rates or exceed debt guidelines.”

The Los Angeles Daily News on California. “The San Fernando Valley’s housing market eased into its slow season in October with both sales and prices making modest gains, according to two reports. Prices are softening too. While still increasing from a year-ago level, they have fallen month-over-month for the past three months, noted economist William W. Roberts, the San Fernando Valley Economic Research Center at Cal State Northridge director.”

“During October the median price rose 4 percent from a year earlier to $560,000 but lost $16,000 from September. ‘I don’t expect prices to be going up 6 to 8 percent year-over-year (now). We’re back to a respectable range, but these are the smallest year-over-year (percentage) increases we’ve seen in a long time,’ Roberts said. The median house price rose 8 percent from October 2014 to $562,000 and gained $7,000 from September. The median house price is now 14 percent under the record of $655,000, which hit in June 2007 before the Great Recession throttled the market. And it is now 66 percent above the post-recession low of $339,000 in December 2011.”

The Associated Press on DC. “In the rapidly gentrifying nation’s capital, real estate investors aren’t the only ones flipping houses for profit. The city’s public housing authority is getting in on the action — moving aging tenants out of homes where they’ve lived for decades, renovating them and selling them to wealthy buyers. The renovations, at a cost of more than $300,000 per home, are outfitting the houses with luxury amenities, and some of the houses have sold for nearly $900,000. Others, however, have sat vacant for a year or longer after tenants were forced out.”

“One home, on a well-kept block in Capitol Hill, has been vacant since late 2013, when the longtime tenants — Lula Brooks, 81, and her husband, Sonny, 82 — were abruptly moved out. The house wasn’t renovated. A year later, it was put on the market for $400,000 — unusually low for the neighborhood. It eventually sold for that price after higher offers fell through, but the housing authority asked its title company not to sign over the deed. The sale is tied up in litigation.”

“The rest of the houses the authority has sold in recent years have gone for market value. Others sit empty because the authority can’t afford to renovate them. A year ago, Levant Graham, 84, was moved out of the five-bedroom home in Shaw where she’d lived since the early 1970s and raised seven children. The housing authority plans to flip the house, but so far it hasn’t been renovated or listed for sale. ‘I thought the house was already sold. I thought it was on the market. So, I don’t know what the big rush was to get me out of the house,’ Graham said.”

The Gainesville Sun in Florida. “For UF students with money to spend on housing, it’s all about location. Well, ok, it’s also about high-end appliaces, wi-fi, a first-floor coffee shop, and maybe a lazy river. More than 2,500 units of high-end apartments are being built for college students over the next two years in densely packed, modern high rises within a few blocks of the University of Florida’s historic campus. The newer luxury apartments going up near the campus are fetching high rents: $1,000 a month or more.”

“Nathan Collier, who has been involved in student housing in Gainesville for 40 years, sees a glut of student housing coming on the market at a time when enrollment is frozen. He sees the writing on the wall and is already diversifying into market rate properties for professionals and other renters. ‘I happen to think student housing in Gainesville is being overbuilt,’ he said. ‘Across the entire investment horizon, there is a scarcity of investment opportunities and lot of money looking for a home.’”

“‘Everybody is raising rents,’ said Keith Crutcher, who has been in the apartment management business for more than 20 years. ‘The market firms up, occupancy is in the high 90s, and here come all the developers building units. When the units come on line occupancy drops.’”

The Atlanta Journal Constitution in Georgia. “Metro Atlanta home sales are much stronger than just a few years ago, new homes are rising again and average prices are edging toward the peaks of 2007, just before the bubble burst. Average Atlanta prices have racked up a 53 percent gain since the recovery gained traction in 2012. That leaves them about 8 percent below their highs. Even now, about 20 percent the mortgages in metro Atlanta are underwater, according to Zillow.”

“It’s actually worse than that: Twice as many – 40.4 percent of homeowners with a mortgage are ‘effectively underwater,’ Zillow says, with so little equity that selling their homes would not leave them enough money to pay for the transaction and finding another home. Lower-priced homes are the most likely to be underwater, Zillow says, with 43 percent of homes in the bottom third of prices falling into the category.”

“Moreover, in some neighborhoods, the crisis has never passed, said Dan Immergluck, professor in Georgia Tech’s School of City and Regional Planning and author of the recently published book ‘Preventing The next Mortgage Crisis.’ ‘The effect of the crisis has been uneven,’ he said. ‘There are neighborhoods, especially on the south side of the city, that still have forty and fifty percent vacancy rates. For example, the Pittsburgh area.’”

“In 23 ZIP codes around metro Atlanta, more than 40 percent of mortgages are underwater. In five of them, more than half the mortgages are underwater. The worst damage is in Riverdale 30296, where nearly six of every 10 homeowners with mortgages have negative equity.”

WIVB in New York. “‘Zombie Homes,’ and State Assemblyman Michael Kearns’ ‘Shame the Banks’ campaign were front and center at Buffalo City Hall, but it was more about what has become a regional problem. But most of the testimony came from the suburbs, like Clarence where we have found a million-dollar zombie home, and towns like West Seneca, where Sharon Kimaid lived next door to a vacant, decaying house for years, until it was demolished at taxpayers’ expense. ‘It was a blight to our neighborhood, and it is just plain sad that this home, in a very nice neighborhood could not be salvaged. I blame the bank.’”

“Kearns cited findings of the Distressed Properties Task Force that indicates the extent vacant abandoned zombie homes are a drain on the local economy. ‘We are going to be easily at over $150 million in real value where zombie properties are impacting our neighborhoods.’”

The Hartford Courant in Connecticut. “For increasing numbers of native Connecticut Millennials, ‘home for the holidays’ doesn’t mean ‘Connecticut’ any more. In 2014, more than 39,000 young adults in the 20-to-34 age group moved out of Connecticut, an increase of more than 20 percent from 2007. Despite the sharp increase here, a handful of other states — including some nearby — are shedding young adults at an even higher rate. Nearly 6.4 percent of Rhode Island’s Millennials left for another state last year, as did 6.9 percent of Vermont’s. New Hampshire’s rate was just under 6 percent. Some Rocky Mountain states have rates approaching 10 percent, according to recent U.S. Census data. Alaska’s rate is off the charts.”

“One of the challenges for young adults who would put down roots in the area is the high property tax rate, said Paula Ostop, a Realtor with William Raveis/Ellyn Marshall & Associates. ‘The property tax is rough,’ she said. Housing ‘prices are depressed, so we’re seeing prices that might be in the range of a 20- to 34-year-old, but they can’t afford the taxes.’”

“For older residents, the stock market crash in 2009 clobbered the investments they’d counted on for retirement, and many of them simply kept working, waiting for values to rebound. The housing market crash also kept them in-state, as the equity in their homes dropped and it made no sense to sell. But as the economy has thawed, many of the recently retired have decided that it’s time to go. ‘People are saying ‘We’re finally going to retire, housing prices are sort of getting back, and winter was hell last year,’ said Ron Van Winkle, West Hartford’s town manager. ‘Those Boomers have pulled the trigger.’”

“And their houses are going on the market. The number of homes for sale in greater Hartford in October was up 27.3 percent from last October, according to data from the Greater Hartford Association of Realtors, and there were 15 percent more closings. The median price was down 2.8 percent, but many people seem to have accepted that prices aren’t going to rebound to 2006 levels any time soon. ‘There’s so much inventory,’ Ostop said. ‘Prices are depressed.’”




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Comment by Senior Housing Analyst
2015-12-01 04:06:30

Ventura, CA Housing Craters; Prices Plummet 21% YoY

http://www.movoto.com/ventura-ca/market-trends/

Comment by Jingle Male
2015-12-02 02:37:56

HA. See next post…

“… prices are up by a third since 2012.”

There seems to be an analytical failure HA!

Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-12-02 06:18:45

Jingle_Fraud,

Down 21% YoY…… and falling.

 
 
 
Comment by Combotechie
2015-12-01 06:20:29

“They’re part of a growing class of alternative lenders that now extend more than 4 in 10 home loans.”

(snip)

“Still, some observers worry as housing markets heat up across the country and in Southern California, where prices are up by a third since 2012.”

“… prices are up by a third since 2012.”

(snip)

“There’s market share to be gained from originating loans outside those standards. Irvine’s Impac Mortgage, a publicly traded nonbank lender, nearly went bust during the housing crisis because it specialized in Alt-A mortgages, loans extended without proof of income or assets. Now it’s back in the lending business, largely originating standard, government-backed loans. But about a year ago it started offering ‘AltQM’ loans, as in: alternative to qualified mortgages. These higher-rate mortgages might feature interest-only payment periods, adjustable rates or exceed debt guidelines.”

So, to sum it all up: 4 in 10 home loans are now alternative loans, loans made to houses that had their prices risen by a third since 2012, loans that have had their standards reduced.

The higher the price rise the closer to the top of the market goes the price; As the price approaches the top of the market (which is a point that nobody now knows) the greater grows the risk. As the risk grows greater then the terms of the loans should tighten - but what is happening is quite the opposite; As the top of the market is approached the terms of the loans are being loosened.

Loosened borrowing terms allows the formerly unaffordable to magically become affordable; Magically affordable borrowing terms allows high prices to be pushed up even higher; Higher prices is the drawing element (as in buy now or be priced out forever) so higher prices is what should expect to see, and these higher prices will be made possible because these alternative loan companies will continue to loosen the terms of the loans they will make because none of them wants to lose market share.

It’s time top pop up some popcorn.

Comment by Combotechie
2015-12-01 06:47:18

Normally when one asks the question: “What is the price?” the answer would be the same as if he instead asked: “What is this going to cost me?”

But when buying a house this is not necessarily so. When buying a house the seller gets the price and the seller knows what the price is, but the buyer doesn’t always get to know what the price is - doesn’t always get to know what it will cost him to buy - because if adjustable loans are used then the buyer may have no idea what it will cost him. He might not even know what future monthly payments will cost him.

But still, buyers line up to buy.

Comment by inchbyinch
2015-12-01 08:40:15

It’s not just the price at closing. The inspection list is often intellectualized as something for a later date, and some items need attention pronto. That can hit when the supplemental tax bill shows up in the mail. I’ve seen this scenario.(Not us.)

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2015-12-01 07:25:22

“And all are run by former executives of Countrywide Financial. This time, the executives say, will be different.”

Here we go again.

Comment by snake charmer
2015-12-01 08:02:43

Those two sentences said it all.

 
Comment by rms
2015-12-01 08:27:51

“We were thinking about what our monthly payment was going to be, not where the loan was coming from,” said Abraham Cardona, 32.

Mr and Mrs “how much a month?”

 
Comment by rms
2015-12-01 08:31:31

“FHA borrowers can put down as little as 3.5% of the loan amount and have a credit score as low as 580, which could signal a past bankruptcy or debts sent to collection.”

High lending standards courtesy of “mo credik” Mel.

 
Comment by redmondjp
2015-12-01 16:50:29

Lenders gonna lend . . .

Got transaction costs?

 
 
 
Comment by oxide
2015-12-01 07:22:21

Abraham and Crystal Cardona. They both have high credit scores, approaching 800, but in September they chose an FHA loan

They didn’t “choose” an FHA loan. What they really chose was the $500K house and needed the FHA to afford it. They only had $20K cash and put down $17K = 3.5%.

You pay dearly for that low down payment. When the bank ran the numbers for me, the howmuchamonth for the 3.5% down FHA would have been higher than a 10% down conventional mortgage. And the fees are higher now.

I zillowed to see what $500K would buy in LaMirada, CA. Near-zero lot-line 3/2 2-car with a small pool. Not a mansion, but not a starter house either. They could have done better in a more modest house. Maybe they had to buy into a better nabe?

Comment by inchbyinch
2015-12-01 09:08:21

oxide
In So Ca, that 3/2 w/ a sm pool is a starter home. You expanded my perspective. Our starter was a 4/2.5 1950 sq ft new construction on a hill (1984), in a very upscale PUD. My HOA disdain came from that.

 
Comment by Blue Skye
2015-12-01 09:42:40

“Maybe they had to buy into a better nabe”

They bought into a massive bubble is what they did. If they weren’t living the mania they would have run screaming from the prospects of borrowing half a million dollars for a house in any neighborhood.

Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-12-01 10:20:27

Just like Donk and MT Pockets.

Comment by Puggs
2015-12-01 15:13:12

I LOVE the feel of cash between my fingertips…!

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Comment by Blue Skye
2015-12-01 16:17:41

For some people it is excruciating torture.

 
 
 
Comment by AmazingRuss
2015-12-01 12:53:33

Maybe they just gave in after waiting a decade.

Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-12-01 14:25:26

Renting it results in a bigger pile o’ cash my friend.

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Comment by AmazingRuss
2015-12-01 14:37:35

Well, I have this Pile o Cash, and I’m starting to wonder when I can use it to live rent-free. Should have bought in 2012… now I have to wait for the next crash and spend 50k on rent.

 
Comment by CalifoH20
2015-12-01 15:23:55

shelter cost $$$, no matter how you slice it.

 
Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-12-01 15:33:05

Spend a few thousand on rent, or lose a few hundred thousand on a rapidly depreciating asset from which you’ll never recover.

Salem, OR Housing Prices Plummet 13% YoY

http://www.movoto.com/salem-or/market-trends/

 
Comment by Blue Skye
2015-12-01 18:27:57

Russ, I hope you survive having this pile of cash rather than a stinking pile of debt. My heart goes out to you.

 
Comment by AmazingRuss
2015-12-01 23:05:23

But EVERYBODY has debt. I feel STUPID with all this STUPID money! What good is it?

 
 
 
 
Comment by Puggs
2015-12-01 12:44:12

Sounds like they scored one of those “Flip or Flop” homes.

Gosh, I could not imagine taking on a $500K+ mortgage. Even at a low 3.5% and making $150K a year. Ouch, talk about massively overpaying!

 
Comment by Puggs
2015-12-01 12:46:18

In order to garner a high credit score you have to have spent a lot of time using bank kredit and kredit kards. That is NOT something to be proud of.

Comment by Blue Skye
2015-12-01 14:11:48

I don’t know about that. I have a couple of credit accounts that I do not carry a balance on, but I use regularly to make purchases. No mortgage. No car loan. I have a high credit score.

Comment by Puggs
2015-12-01 14:41:02

Don’t know if you rent but that goes on your score too. Making on time rent will up your score. As will getting a new card every year or two.

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Comment by Blue Skye
2015-12-01 16:31:21

I don’t rent. When I did it was cash. Actually I’ve never bought a brand new car. I think it is just low credit utilization and no late payments.

 
 
 
Comment by CalifoH20
2015-12-01 15:30:47

Borrowing can be good:

Started in 1976 with borrowed money from an Intel executive by Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak, Apple’s steep rise to the top began with the return of Jobs to the Cupertino-based company in 1997.

Jobs borrowed $150 million from Bill Gates

Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-12-01 16:31:25

Another company saddled with debt.

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Comment by Ben Jones
2015-12-01 07:29:51

‘Federal authorities are seeking to freeze the assets of a San Bernardino doctor and office manager accused of illegally diverting half of $20 million they raised from Chinese investors hoping to qualify for an immigration program.’

‘In a Nov. 19 filing in Riverside federal court, the Securities and Exchange Commission states that Dr. Robert Yang, 45, of Redlands and the administrative manager of his medical practice, 45-year-old Claudia Kano of Pomona, secured funds from 40 investors hoping to immigrate to the U.S.’

‘Court documents say Yang and Kano persuaded them to invest by touting a program that issues visas to immigrants who make significant investments that create jobs. But the civil complaint alleges “Yang and Kano repeatedly siphoned off investor funds.”

As a result, specialized nursing home projects in Fontana, Hesperia and the Los Angeles County community of Lynwood – all marketed under the name Suncor – are stalled, the civil filing states. “The Suncor projects are years behind schedule,” the complaint states. “As of today, none of the projects is operational and they may never be completed.”

‘And the Chinese investors won’t be able to take advantage of the visa program because of $10 million in alleged diversions by Yang and Kano. “In fact, their misappropriation and misuse of investor funds rendered the investments ineligible for the EB-5 program,” court documents say.’

Comment by AmazingRuss
2015-12-01 12:54:59

Can’t trust Chinese Coyotes.

 
Comment by redmondjp
2015-12-01 16:59:25

Same thing happened up here in Seattle. Google ‘Lobsang Dargey.”

 
 
Comment by Ben Jones
2015-12-01 07:35:39

‘The rising prices for houses and condominiums in the D.C. area have its positives and negatives, as the prices can form a barrier to people trying to get into the market. That’s the word from CNBC real estate reporter Diana Olick, who spoke with WTOP on Thursday morning. While median home prices rose nearly 2 percent in October over last October, it’s also true that sales are down by 13 percent.’

“It’s not that the market is weak, it’s just that there’s nothing for sale,” Olick says.’

‘The housing-market collapse of the last decade has put a dent in the supply in two ways, Olick says. For one thing, builders, particularly in Montgomery County, were badly hurt in the downturn. “They are coming back, but the farther out you go, the less demand they’re seeing, and the less they want to put up speculative homes.”

‘Olick says that while some housing inventory could free up as baby boomers with empty nests begin to downsize, the collapse is impeding that process as well: A lot of homeowners lost equity in the crash, and they may not be ready to sell at current market prices. “If they live farther out, and they don’t have the amount of equity they want — or if they took equity out during the housing boom, and they don’t have that nest egg that they wanted, they may wait.”

Nest egg?

Comment by David Lereah
2015-12-01 07:44:28

If you paid your mortgage off, it means you probably did not manage your funds efficiently over the years. It’s as if you had 500,000 dollar bills stuffed in your mattress.

Comment by WPA
2015-12-01 09:02:56

If you paid your mortgage off, it means you probably did not manage your funds efficiently

Heard this from many work colleagues, that having no house payment is retirement nirvana. I don’t agree, why tie up your nest egg in an illiquid asset? A better strategy in my view is to forecast what house payment you think you can afford in retirement, pay down the mortgage to that level and refinance. Put funds that would have paid off the home into IRA or Roth so the nest egg is diversified.

Comment by Blue Skye
2015-12-01 09:49:17

Consider diversifying without the debt, it will give a more harmonious outcome. This means not buying a house you cannot afford.

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Comment by WPA
2015-12-01 10:28:50

Consider diversifying without the debt

Debt, tightly managed, is not a bad thing. I refi’d at 3.25%. With the mortgage deduction my effective interest rate is ~2.5%. I’m almost borrowing money for free, and if inflation gets above 2.5% I win. I also have a low LTV ratio so it’s extremely unlikely I’ll ever go underwater.

 
Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-12-01 10:37:05

Debt is never a good thing. Nothing illustrates that fact more effectively than your underwater shanty.

 
Comment by Puggs
2015-12-01 14:58:59

I’d rather be debt free than have even a .5% loan. MID is a ruse.

Nothing feels better than NOT having a master.

 
Comment by CalifoH20
2015-12-01 15:28:05

Go Pro: ( borrowing $$ worked out)

He built the company, which he called Woodman Labs, to be profitable from day one. Woodman put in $30,000 — $10,000 of which he’d earned by selling beads and belts he’d imported from Indonesia on a surfing trip. His mom put in $35,000 and let him borrow her sewing machine–he used it to sew camera straps when he was experimenting with early designs–and his dad loaned him another $200,000, which Woodman says he immediately paid back out of company sales.

 
Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-12-01 16:01:32

and another company neck deep in debt.

 
Comment by Puggs
2015-12-01 17:52:37

Some people dump $500K on a house plus another $450K on interest. When viewed through this grid Woodman is an investing genius.

 
 
Comment by AmazingRuss
2015-12-01 12:57:22

Using borrowed money to diversify into another rigged casino? This idea does not make me feel secure.

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Comment by Ben Jones
2015-12-01 07:58:54

‘Silicon Valley is obsessed with a particular part of the finance business that involves sending cash to friends using an app. That’s led to a flurry of options that often aren’t profitable because they charge little to no transaction fees.’

‘If Apple hopes to compete, it will also need to make its service free to use with debit cards, according to analysts. Person-to-person payment services aren’t cheap to operate, and Apple may lose money on many transactions, said research firm Crone Consulting. Setting up and validating a new account, usually tied to a debit card, will cost Apple 50¢ to $3 apiece, plus at least 25¢ per transaction, the firm said. Companies don’t generate much revenue from payments users make to friends, said Will Stofega, an analyst at researcher IDC. “I am a little puzzled how you monetize it.”

“Apple is hoping to stem the tide of slow adoption for Apple Pay with user-funded incentives for P2P payments,” Crone said. “If I send you $50, and you are not on Apple Pay P2P service, you have to enroll in it. It’s a viral application.”

Losing money + viral = losing more money! When will Amazon get in?

‘Apple didn’t respond to requests for comment.’

You can’t expect Apple to do things like answer phones or emails. They are busy losing money!

Comment by Ben Jones
2015-12-01 08:07:18

More on the global deflation exercise:

‘Manufacturing activity deteriorated across much of Asia in November and while European factories reports improved, the region struggled to gather momentum. Business surveys on Tuesday showed few signs of vigour across trade-reliant Asia, apart from Japan, with sluggish demand at home and abroad forcing manufacturers from China to Indonesia to throttle back production, cut selling prices and shed more jobs.’

‘Euro zone manufacturing growth picked up to a 19-month high in November but the pace was still relatively modest and with firms cutting prices for a third month, expectations for further easing from the European Central Bank on Thursday will solidify.’

“The deal has been sealed for the ECB, markets have moved after the very strong hints and one data point wouldn’t change its mind at this stage,” said Jennifer McKeown at Capital Economics. “These particular data anyway aren’t all that encouraging. There is just no real inflationary pressure.”

Comment by In Colorado
2015-12-01 09:04:03

Losing money + viral = losing more money! When will Amazon get in?

And yet, some startup that offers this money losing service will get bought out for a few billion (probably by Amazon or Facebook).

 
 
Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-12-01 10:21:40

“You can’t expect Apple to do things like answer phones or emails. They are busy losing money!”

Thats what crApple does best. Lose money.

 
Comment by oxide
2015-12-01 10:46:03

“If I send you $50, and you are not on Apple Pay P2P service, you have to enroll in it. It’s a viral application.”

You have $50 waiting for you give us your info to enroll. Sounds like the Nigerian email scam.

 
Comment by In Colorado
2015-12-01 12:55:05

You can’t expect Apple to do things like answer phones or emails. They are busy losing money!

They are busy getting suckers to pay 3x what their crap is worth. They are actually quite good at making money. They made $53B net profit in fiscal 2015. I would hardly call that “losing money”.

Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-12-01 13:15:11

You’re forgetting the debt side of the ledger. Losing money hand over fist is more accurate.

 
 
Comment by The_Overdog
2015-12-01 14:07:21

Owners of newer iPhone models used Apple Pay in 2.7 percent of Black Friday transactions at stores that support the feature, compared with 4.9 percent on the same day last year, according to data from tracking firm InfoScout.
….
That could be a moneymaker for Apple, which charges banks fees each time customers tap their phones to pay in stores.

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So they have ~2.7% - 5% of the market after 1 year, and they charge basically the same transaction fees as credit card companies, ie 2% of your purchase to swipe plastic, except you paid money for your plastic phone, they didn’t give it to you for free, and your plastic can track every purchase you make in real time, so it’s real easy to sell your info for marketing purpose. And for all that, they just have to give away 25 cents in peer to peer transactions. Remember checks? People used to pay for those too.

Sounds like they are bad at making money. LOL.

Comment by Puggs
2015-12-01 15:11:36

“Remember checks? People used to pay for those too.”

As soon as this whole thing becomes passe, it will come roaring back like vinyl records, camera film and trucker hats with beards.

 
Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-12-01 15:30:33

They sure are good at borrowing and spending it.

 
 
 
Comment by taxpayers
2015-12-01 08:07:35

17k on 500k minus some closing costs = smelly MEL WATTS 3% down

seems like old times

Comment by Ben Jones
2015-12-01 08:12:58

‘Prices are softening too…they have fallen month-over-month for the past three months, noted economist William W. Roberts…’During October the median price rose 4 percent from a year earlier to $560,000 but lost $16,000 from September.’

There goes the down payment.

Comment by Blue Skye
2015-12-01 09:52:07

FBs on day one.

 
Comment by Jingle Male
2015-12-02 05:59:38

With 6-7% selling cost, the 3.5% down is gone the minute you carry your bride over the threshold!

 
 
 
Comment by snake charmer
2015-12-01 08:13:05

That was an amusing tidbit about Gainesville. Building modern high-rises with high-end apartments, for college students? Do these people have any idea what college students can do to an apartment? I don’t know if housing stock can depreciate any more rapidly. It won’t be long before the building hallways and elevators smell like vomit and skunky beer.

I’m not a neat freak by any stretch of the imagination, but when I think back to the habits of some of my school roommates, they made me look like I suffered from OCD.

Comment by redmondjp
2015-12-01 17:03:04

Yup. If they were smart, they would put an oversized trash chute right into the kitchen wall (big enough to take extra-large pizza boxes).

I knew of apartments in college where you had to shovel your way through all of the empty pizza boxes and beer cans just to get to the fridg.

 
 
Comment by Senior Housing Analyst
2015-12-01 10:24:42

Novato, CA Housing Craters; Prices Plunge 19% As Housing Demand Falls To 20 Year Low

http://www.movoto.com/novato-ca/market-trends/

Comment by Jingle Male
2015-12-02 06:05:42

Price/SF up $20. Oh wait, you build the whole house for $20, no wonder you think the market is “cratering”. I was in Novato last week. The market is quite strong w high demand.

 
 
Comment by Justme
2015-12-01 14:38:00

How on earth can the DC housing authority sell houses from underneath people who live/rent there? Is it not the purpose of the housing authority to own and rent housing to low-income residents?

Comment by snake charmer
2015-12-01 16:49:55

I thought that too. It seems as if the potential money to be made has totally overwhelmed any sense of social responsibility these officials might have possessed. They’re as bad as Chinese party officials kicking peasants off land so that it might be sold to developers. And here’s a question — how are the proceeds of the housing authority’s sales spent? I don’t want to speculate, but I have some guesses.

Comment by AmazingRuss
2015-12-01 23:06:38

On the houses of the officials.

 
 
 
Comment by Mafia Blocks
2015-12-01 19:55:04

Martin Armstrong Warns “QE Has Failed… Central Banks Are Simply Trapped”

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-12-01/martin-armstrong-warns-qe-has-failed-central-banks-are-simply-trapped

 
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