A Sign More Downward Pressure Could Be Coming
A report from Bloomberg. “The six-bedroom mansion in the shadow of Southern California’s Sierra Madre Mountains has lime trees and a swimming pool, tennis courts and a sauna — the kind of place that would have sold quickly just a year ago, according to real estate agent Kanney Zhang. Not now. Zhang is shopping it for a discounted $3.68 million, but nobody’s biting. Her clients, a couple from China, are getting anxious. They’re the kind of well-heeled international investors who fueled a four-year luxury real estate boom that helped pull America out of its worst housing slump since the 1930s. Now the couple is reeling from the selloff in the Chinese stock market and looking to raise cash to shore up finances.”
“Across the U.S., the story is much the same. The world’s economic woes — from China to Russia to South America — are damping sales in the high-end real estate market. In the Los Angeles suburb of Arcadia, where Zhang is struggling to sell the six-bedroom home, dozens of aging ranch houses were demolished to make way for 38 mansions built with Chinese buyers in mind. They have are priced as high as $12 million. Many of them sit empty because the prices are out of the range of most domestic buyers, said Re/Max broker Rudy Kusuma, who blames a crackdown by the Chinese on large sums leaving the country.”
“In Sunny Isles, Florida, faraway currency fluctuations are endangering the sale of a $3.7 million condominium. A Colombian woman who put down a 50 percent deposit is fretting over how she’ll cover the other half over the next year, said her agent, Mauricio Rojas. In Houston, the plunge in oil prices to a 12-year low is killing the luxury boom. The whole Houston real estate market is going to take a hit ‘but the upper end is going to be impacted most,’ said Patrick Jankowski, senior vice president of research for the Greater Houston Partnership.”
“Even in San Francisco, where the market for luxury properties remains strong, the inventory of listings for $2 million or more jumped in October to a record level, said Patrick Carlisle, chief market analyst for Paragon Real Estate. Both buyers and sellers were getting increasingly worried about the direction of the economy, he said. ‘More sellers are jumping in and more buyers are holding off because they’re worried about where the volatility is going,’ Carlisle said.”
DNA Info New York. “Much has been made of the effect of foreign investors on driving up New York real estate prices, with some local real estate companies specifically soliciting foreign buyers for upcoming projects before soliciting New York residents. A wave of condos where foreign buyers purchased — as investments to rent out — are flooding the rental market, causing a glut of high-end listings as other high-end rental buildings are simultaneously opening, said Karla Saladino, managing partner at Mirador Real Estate.”
“‘We’re seeing major price drops below last winter’s rent,’ she said of rentals. For instance, when marketing a ’stunning penthouse’ in the Flatiron, Saladino looked at comparable units for pricing information. Usually, she’d find about four similar high-end units. This time she found 48.2.”
The Broward Palm Beach New Times in Florida. “The U.S. government announced two weeks ago that it will begin monitoring all-cash home sales of $1 million or more in two counties — New York (a.k.a. Manhattan), and Miami-Dade, where fraud is also expected. In response to an article about the new program, Melissa Hoff Roth, a Fort Lauderdale realtor, shared her own thoughts about the crackdown on Miami’s condo market on Facebook. She wasn’t exactly upset. ‘Got cash?’ she wrote. ‘The Ft Lauderdale market is hot and a better deal than Miami anyway! Give us a call!!’”
“That’s right: Hoff Roth, and her business partner, Howard Elfman — who is both the president of the Fort Lauderdale Association of Realtors, and director of the entire state’s Association of Realtors — believe the federal monitoring program will push these foreign buyers out of Miami and up into Broward. And they think this is a good thing. ‘It’s a blessing for Broward,’ Hoff Roth said. ‘We’re going to say, ‘We’re not going to look into your pocketbooks, your bank accounts. If you have money, if you can provide a cashier’s check. We’ll work with you. And it’s happening just as Miami is falling.’”
The Denver Post in Colorado. “Metro Denver apartment rents leveled off and vacancies rose sharply between the third and fourth quarters after a surge in new supply left more landlords scrambling to fill their units, according to a quarterly update from the Apartment Association of Metro Denver. In a sign more downward pressure on rents could be coming in the months ahead, the area’s apartment vacancy rate surged to 6.8 percent from 5 percent in the third quarter. It was the biggest quarterly surge in vacancies since heavy job losses caused people to move out of their apartments back in 2008 and 2009.”
“Vacancy rates were highest in northwest Denver at 17.4 percent; Boulder County, excluding Longmont and the city of Boulder, at 14 percent; downtown Denver at 11.2 percent; and north Douglas County at 9.6 percent. Developers have focused on those areas for higher-rent apartments. Given that owners of new apartment buildings may not be familiar with the survey, or may be too busy leasing units to respond, the actual vacancy rate in those areas might be understated, said report co-author Ron Throupe, a real estate professor at the University of Denver.”
“Supporting the argument of oversupply on the high-end of the market, the more affordable areas developers passed over show much tighter apartment vacancy rates. The report said developers added 1,678 new units to the local market, but that net absorption was a negative 4,247 units, meaning once-occupied units were sitting vacant. Throupe, however, dismissed concerns that the apartment market was headed for a ‘crash’ or that the rising vacancy rate signaled a deeper economic weakness. ‘Rents won’t crash,’ he said. ‘We will go flat for awhile. We aren’t having a major downturn.’”
“Across the U.S., the story is much the same. The world’s economic woes — from China to Russia to South America — are damping sales in the high-end real estate market. In the Los Angeles suburb of Arcadia, where Zhang is struggling to sell the six-bedroom home, dozens of aging ranch houses were demolished to make way for 38 mansions built with Chinese buyers in mind. They have are priced as high as $12 million. Many of them sit empty because the prices are out of the range of most domestic buyers, said Re/Max broker Rudy Kusuma, who blames a crackdown by the Chinese on large sums leaving the country.”
The Echo Bubble is toast. Bag holders on high end luxury properties had better cut their asking prices to pennies on the dollar and take what they can get, because the peak prices are over for a generation to come.
“…over for a generation to come.”
I think forever in terms of humans living to see the day.
It is possible that after humans are all gone and the Realtors win their life and death struggle with the cockroaches to dominate the earth that they could sell and buy them from each other in a mad frenzy levitating prices for a brief period before the sun dies.
Today marks a record banquet sized serving of crow by Mr. Ben Jones. Stunning articles Jonesy.
Now get feasting fools. Eat up because there’s a whole lot more coming your way.
Three crow recipes …
http://bertc.com/subfive/recipes/threecrows.htm
“The Luxury Housing Bubble Pops”
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-01-26/luxury-housing-bubble-pops
” Now the couple is reeling from the selloff in the Chinese stock market and looking to raise cash to shore up finances.””
dumb.borrowed.money.
So much for the widespread lie of “cash buyers”.
$28 Trillion credit expansion. Collapsing.
From the Manhattan article:
“‘We’re seeing major price drops”
Whole lot of price discovery coming over the next 5 years.
“That’s right: Hoff Roth, and her business partner, Howard Elfman — who is both the president of the Fort Lauderdale Association of Realtors, and director of the entire state’s Association of Realtors — believe the federal monitoring program will push these foreign buyers out of Miami and up into Broward. And they think this is a good thing. ‘It’s a blessing for Broward,’ Hoff Roth said. ‘We’re going to say, ‘We’re not going to look into your pocketbooks, your bank accounts. If you have money, if you can provide a cashier’s check. We’ll work with you. And it’s happening just as Miami is falling.’”
lol@realtors
The newspaper is incredulous at the slime that is this ‘director of the entire states’ association, and he wallows in it.
Ask your self; why is money-laundering illegal in the first place? Because bad things happen? Criminal acts that are associated with dirty money looking for a place to hide? And recall that the NAR lobbied to keep real estate out of the Patriot Act’s money-laundering provisions. Now just how did they know what was going into the Patriot Act?
Clearly they are a criminal organization.
What an idiotic statement. Attracting illicit foreign money is a blessing? Hey Hoff, what county do you think is next up for federal monitoring?
I’m not hostile to Fort Lauderdale, but my last time in Broward I had to spend time in Weston, which is a suburban wasteland if there ever was one.
‘Vacancy rates were highest in northwest Denver at 17.4 percent; Boulder County, excluding Longmont and the city of Boulder, at 14 percent; downtown Denver at 11.2 percent; and north Douglas County at 9.6 percent. Developers have focused on those areas for higher-rent apartments.’
This apartment bubble bursting will be spectacular, but it has been painful for lower income people. I don’t know how Mel Watts can look at himself in a mirror:
‘A new study of housing inventory in Over-the-Rhine finds the Cincinnati neighborhood has become more economically diverse since 2002, but has lost 73 percent of units available to people in lower income brackets. The majority of OTR units are apartments. Of the 5,200 units available, 4,000 are occupied and 1,200 are vacant.’
‘The study of 2015 inventory found 22%, or 869 units, are affordable for families making less than $22,000 (down from 90% of units in 2000).’
all the open houses i went to (about 10) all had Asian brokers…
also….what affordable housing?
https://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20141231/long-island-city/more-than-90000-applicants-vie-for-925-affordable-units-hunters-point
‘Concerns about senior housing oversupply have been swirling, with some saying that the issue is of genuine concern while others have been largely dismissive. But recent remarks from a high-profile executive with Ventas Inc. (NYSE: VTR), along with a new industry report, may serve as a wake-up call for anyone who denies there is a problem. “It is real,” said Ventas CFO and Executive Vice President Robert Probst, referring to oversupply.’
‘An investment management firm that late last year publicly pushed for the sale of Capital Senior Living Corp. (NYSE: CSU) is now putting even more pressure on the company.The firm has gone as far as to suggest a sale to real estate investment trust HCP, Inc. (NYSE: HCP)—or a company like it. In its presentation, the activist shareholder emphasizes the “deep” discount at which CSU trades on both a relative and an intrinsic value basis, and concludes that the best way to unlock this value is through a sale of the company.’
‘Red Alder also raises questions about leaders’ own faith CSU. For instance, although the stock price of CSU has fallen almost 12% since Jan. 1, 2013, only one of the “named executive officers” and directors in its 2015 Proxy statement has purchased stock in the open market over that period — and only two of these individuals have done so in the past five years, Red Alder says.’
“This is a strongly negative signal – if those most knowledgeable as to CSU’s business prospects aren’t buying at these undervalued levels, why would other investors believe in its story enough to do so?” the presentation asks.’
When an investment thesis is really easy to understand, it is ripe for over-investment, and thus oversupply.
The demographic wave is so large and compelling, that those who control the purse strings felt (and still feel) as though they won’t be fired by making a decision to invest in a senior housing project.
You can also include in the “compelling story” list:
1. Apartments (everyone’s credit has been destroyed, everyone will rent forever);
2. Anything Millenial–millenials like dogs (buy dog groomers), millenials like to live in urban markets (buy anything urban), millenials will never own cars (invest in skateboard manufacturers), millenials will never marry (studio apartments are great), etc.
3. The tech darlings (Apple, Google, Facebook) will grow forever on the global change in the world economy to be online…the Bay Area office market is GOLDEN!
4. Peak oil is here, and therefore fracking can be highly profitable indefinitely!
Many people will make money in these areas, because there is some truth to each narrative. However, the level of investment inevitably will rise to the level that needs a “paradigm shift” to occur in order to be sustainable, not just a stronger than typical trend.
And paradigm shifts rarely occur.
Be careful if a story sounds great…because if it sounds great to you, it probably sounds great to people with a lot more money under their control (but perversely, with less of their own money to lose).
I never heard the story, I just observed they were building a bunch of them. Too much money chasing everything.
How long can the bullion banks keep artificially suppressing the price of precious metals using paper (nonexistent) metals in trades?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-01-26/comex-snaps-gold-dilution-hits-record-542-oz-gold-claims-every-ounce-physical
I suspect the price its keep low because those guys are selling gold contracts illegally with no real backup.
What does old Janet have up her sleeve today? Fascinating times, these.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-26/bond-bulls-bank-on-fed-mention-of-market-chaos-as-drag-on-growth
S&P pe 20 and 2% gdp
that makes sense to me
‘Pursuing critics, China reaches across borders. And nobody is stopping it.— BEIJING — China’s campaign against dissent is going global. Amid extraordinary moves to rein in criticism at home, Chinese security personnel are reaching confidently across borders, targeting Chinese and foreign citizens who dare to challenge the Communist Party line, in what one Western diplomat has called the “worst crackdown since Tiananmen Square.” By Emily Rauhala and Simon Denyer’
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/pursuing-critics-china-reaches-across-borders-and-nobody-is-stopping-it/2016/01/26/cd4959dc-6793-473f-8b74-6cbac3f46422_story.html
‘Some numbers just don’t add up. In its latest report on trade, Hong Kong’s imports from the Chinese mainland were vastly different from what China said it had exported. It may confirm what many people already suspected - that Chinese exporters resorted to an old tactic of inflating shipments abroad. Bloomberg’s David Ingles reports.’
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2016-01-27/doing-the-math-why-china-s-exports-don-t-add-up?cmpid=yhoo.headline
I’ve heard multiple folks say that the place they are seeing the most weakness of anywhere is in Hong Kong. Perhaps Godzilla is just eating all the cargo from the mainland?
“China, Where Even the Law Firms are Fake” http://www.chinalawblog.com/2006/10/china_where_even_the_law_firms.html
From the comments:
“I can’t tell you how many times I’ve heard a similar story regarding real estate developers. It’s like fraud is a sport.
“As one of my friend told his Guangdong supplier: “You Cantonese fake everything but your mama.”
“China: Where Even The Jews Are Fake
Self-help the Jewish way. Absolutely fascinating story in today’s Washington Post, entitled, “Sold on a Stereotype: In China, a genre of self-help books purports to tell the secrets of making money ‘the Jewish way.’” (h/t to Asia Busine…
‘It’s like fraud is a sport’
Good thing the global economy isn’t riding on these guys.
Anybody who knew about just one empty city (meaning almost everyone) should have known China is a joke. What were people saying? “Oh, they’ll just move the peasants in.” Uh, who is going to pay for the house? Where will these peasants work?
And here’s a question; why did Apple bet the ranch on China? Due diligence Mr CEO? No scrutiny amongst the China bulls. They were too dazzled by the fancy suits. The new global super-power my a##.
“The six-bedroom mansion in the shadow of Southern California’s Sierra Madre Mountains has lime trees and a swimming pool, tennis courts and a sauna — the kind of place that would have sold quickly just a year ago, according to real estate agent Kanney Zhang. Not now. Zhang is shopping it for a discounted $3.68 million, but nobody’s biting. Her clients, a couple from China, are getting anxious.”
Uh, wait…don’t most people who buy homes with cash intend to live in them?
Sarc/
‘the kind of place that would have sold quickly just a year ago’
Gosh, I hope they didn’t pay too much during that boom.
‘a couple from China are getting anxious’
So the big spenders are now nervous sellers. If they paid cash, there won’t be some number they’ve got to have. How do you say “unload this shack” in Cantonese?
卸載了棚屋之前我們失去一切
More lower prices for everyone. This is positive economic news.
“Oil Oscillates As Inventories Surge Most In 9 Months And Demand Plunges”
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-01-27/oil-oscillates-inventories-surge-most-9-months-and-demand-plunges
Robert Shiller: “Houses Depreciate”
http://www.pragcap.com/robert-shiller-dont-invest-in-housing/
Reading about the Chinese buying up our land with funny money makes me sad, I need some Jasmine.
Pull yourself up out of the gutter and cheer up and remember Lola….
There’s a globe full of land and 95% goes undeveloped.
“In Sunny Isles, Florida, faraway currency fluctuations are endangering the sale of a $3.7 million condominium. A Colombian woman who put down a 50 percent deposit is fretting over how she’ll cover the other half over the next year, said her agent, Mauricio Rojas.”
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I’ll say. My last time in Colombia, in 2012, the exchange rate was about 1750 pesos to the dollar. It’s now 3368.
“Cupertino, We Have A Problem: China’s JD.Com Just Cut Prices On Apple Products By 17%”
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-01-27/cupertino-we-have-problem-chinas-jdcom-just-cut-prices-apple-products-17
Like we’ve maintained all along. There is only one way to deal overflowing warehouses full of cheap chinese junk. Slash the price.
I’d happily buy one of those new cars just sitting on the lot for half off.
Lemme know.