March 4, 2016

It Is Bubble-Like Again

It’s Friday desk clearing time for this blogger. “Rising home prices are bringing more house flippers out of the woodwork, and that may be a sign of an overheating housing market. The number of active home flippers last year was the highest in nearly a decade, and it is only growing. Home flipping can push prices artificially higher, especially in markets with the tightest inventory. ‘When home flipping numbers go up, it is usually an indication that the housing market is in trouble,’ said Matthew Gardner, chief economist at Windermere Real Estate in Seattle, who was quoted in the RealtyTrac report.”

“The Bay Area has seen great growth in recent years from jobs to housing prices, but some economists say the tech industry is due for an economic correction. Some are going as far to say the tech bubble is about to burst. ‘It does remind me of the Dot-Com Boom,’ said Cynthia Kroll, the Chief Economist of the Association of Bay Area Governments, about the recent boom in technology. ‘I didn’t want to use the word ‘bubble’ but the valuations got so extreme over the last couple of years that it is bubble-like again,’ said Kenneth Rosen, Chairman of the Fisher Center for Real Estate and Urban Economics at UC Berkeley.”

“The Victoria market is seeing some buyers paying $100,000 or more above asking prices for single-family houses in desirable neighbourhoods. Multiple offers. No conditions. Buyers cashing out in Vancouver to live here. Purchasers from China. These are all commonplace as the capital region’s already-hot housing market flares up and inventory tightens. Wealthy buyers from China are snapping up Greater Vancouver homes, driving up prices. In turn, Vancouver buyers are cashing out by selling their homes and heading over to the Island to buy a home of equal quality for half the price.”

“‘They are not afraid to fight. Multiple offers (in Vancouver) are expected on everything,’ said Jason Binab, with the Engel and Völkers real estate firm in Victoria.”

“Wang Xin was close to buying an apartment in downtown Beijing for 3.3 million yuan (500,000 U.S. dollars), but the home owner raised the price by 20,000 yuan at the last minute. Wang agreed to pay the extra money, but the deal fell through anyway. The home owner went with an estate agent, who promised to sell the apartment for 470,000 yuan more. Wang tried to persuade the owner to honor the deal, but was locked out of the realtor’s office. This dramatic turn of events all happened in less than half an hour.”

“Similar episodes have taken place over the past month in China’s big cities, most in the east, where home buyers wait outside developers’ sales offices overnight to snap up new homes and home owners call prospective buyers and sales agents to raise the price by the week, days, or even hours. Home prices jumped 52.7 percent in January from a year ago in the southern boomtown of Shenzhen. One agency provides credit up to 20 percent of their deposit without any collateral. The money was raised through peer-to-peer lending investments that promise 8 to 12 percent annualized return.”

“This has enabled many to purchase homes that they otherwise could not afford. The results, many in the industry say, would be the return of more speculative demand, pushing home prices to frothier levels. ‘There are signs that speculative demands are back again, pushing up home prices with easy credit,’ said Wang Feng, a real estate analyst based in Shenzhen. ‘While authorities need to provide ample credit for real mortgage demand, they should be aware of any attempts to seek leverage to speculate in the property market.’”

“While a recovery may be some way off, Perth property is cheap now relative to the record prices on the east coast of Australia. This is the right time for cashed-up Chinese investors that have favoured the overheated markets of Sydney and Melbourne to snap up deals, according to LloydJenkins, a nearly 30-year veteran of the real-estate industry. ‘The market starts in the so-called nerve centre of Australia, being Sydney, and it works its way until yield compression gets to a point that it’s not worth playing; then they move north to Queensland and then eventually they cross the Nullarbor,’ Jenkins said, referring to the flat desert plain that west-bound travellers cross to reach Western Australia.”

“Jenkins’s optimism has yet to be reflected in a property market reeling from the end of the mining boom. Prices soared 18 per cent from the end of 2008 to a peak in December 2014 as the resources-rich state attracted a flood of workers to mines in the Pilbara region, one of the world’s biggest sources of iron ore, to meet Chinese demand for commodities. A slowdown in China has since depressed oil and iron ore prices, and mining and energy companies from the giants of BHP Billiton Ltd to the juniors of BC Iron Ltd are cutting jobs. Perth dwelling values in October dropped to the lowest since June 2013. Rents have decreased 9 per cent in the past 12 months and vacancy rates are the worst across the nation, according to Reiwa.”

“More clouds have gathered over the capital’s property market after a leading investment bank said the price of new, upmarket London flats could fall by as much as 20% this year. Trevor Abrahmsohn, head of agent Glentree International, said: ‘Asian buyers — from Malaysia, Singapore, Hong Kong and China — are walking away from their commitments to buy properties in, for instance, east London and Nine Elms. They would rather lose 10% than complete the purchase and lose a lot more, even before the developments are complete. The changes to buy-to-let tax is the ‘straw that broke the camel’s back’.”

“He added: ‘In pockets of London’s newly developed areas, where there is a lot of speculative development, the outcome could quickly turn nasty with buyers drying up, developers having to cut prices and investors dumping their newly acquired flats before construction of them has even finished.’”

“Hardly a day has gone by in 2016 without headlines about turmoil in the world’s financial markets and struggling economies. Yet these days, it’s not just brokers on Wall Street who have their heads in their hands but also those in the New York City real estate market. Welcome to the realities of the global economy. Adapting to the new global age, developers have in recent years aggressively courted wealthy buyers from Canada, Norway, Asia, the Middle East and Russia.”

“Indeed, Manhattan’s luxury condo market is already in a slight swoon amid a supply glut. A recent StreetEasy report found that luxury sales prices peaked in May 2015 and have fallen every month since. A number of developers have actually dropped their sellout price projections for new construction buildings. An aversion to risk in the global bond markets has caused new CMBS issuance to slow down significantly in early 2016. ‘There’s no stability in the market, it’s just so hard for people to price loans,’ said Kellogg Gaines, a managing director at JLL. ‘It’s hard to take the dive and commit to doing a loan that may lose money within a few weeks.’”

“Deflationary tides are lapping the shores of countries across the world and financial bubbles are set to burst everywhere, Vikram Mansharamani, a lecturer at Yale University, told CNBC. ‘I think it all started with the China investment bubble that has burst and that brought with it commodities and that pushed deflation around the world and those ripples are landing on the shore of countries literally everywhere,’ the high-profile author and academic said at the Global Financial Markets Forum in Abu Dhabi.”

“Mansharamani said that financial bubbles had been fueled by ‘cheap money’ created by highly accommodative monetary policy across developed economies. ‘I mean, we’ve got a bubble bursting, I would argue, in Australian housing markets — that is beginning to crack; South Africa — the whole economy; Canada — housing and the economy; Brazil. We can keep going on and on,’ the academic told CNBC.”

“The last time Tina Jackson and her husband Mike put a house up for sale, Saskatoon’s real estate market was ‘going crazy.’ Their home was viewed 12 times in the first three days before selling for above the asking price on the fourth day. Eight years later, the couple is now learning what it’s like to sell a house in a buyer’s market. ‘Nothing. Nobody’s come to look at it … Nobody’s called. I’m not really sure (why),’ Tina Jackson said of the two-storey, three-bedroom Westview house, which she and her husband bought in 2008 for $350,000 and listed for $399,000 on Feb. 1.”

“The Jacksons are not the only people in Saskatoon struggling to sell their homes. ‘I know some people that are listing their houses under market value just to sell it, and they’re going to lose money,’ Jackson said, adding that while she and her husband have already slashed their asking price by $10,000, they haven’t considered selling at a loss or boosting the property’s appeal with expensive improvements. ‘Hanging tight for right now,’ she said. ‘I’m sure we’ll have to consider another price drop at some point, but (we’re) not ready for that quite yet.’”




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Comment by Ben Jones
2016-03-04 03:54:59

‘Not everyone wants to live in Silicon Valley. Americans are starting to leave the techie hub faster than they’re arriving, a new study says. The region lost more than 7,500 residents to other parts of the U.S. last year, the first time Silicon Valley has lost more U.S. residents than it has gained since 2011, according to the Silicon Valley Competitiveness and Innovation Project.’

‘Although the pool of workers is still growing, due to a large influx of highly educated foreign-born workers, the departure of homegrown talent points to weaknesses in the region’s ability to sustain its population, particularly with affordable housing.’

‘A slowdown in the tech sector has started to hit companies and workers in Silicon Valley and San Francisco. Venture capital money is harder to come by. More than a dozen companies have announced layoffs, including Yahoo Inc., Twitter Inc. and Zenefits and other companies are closing money-losing projects.’

“People are leaving for a mix of reasons, but some might be getting opportunities in other regions where they can pay less for housing,” said John Melville, co-chief executive of Collaborative Economics Inc., the firm that produced the study.’

Comment by Mole Man
2016-03-04 09:44:06

Talked to an SF Bay Area construction contractor last night and he said for his work now clients call and if he doesn’t answer quickly they call the next in their list and go with whoever answers first. No one cares about quality of work right now. They just want it done fast and started immediately. How could this not be another bubble? And worse, this one is layered on top of the last which never fully unwound.

Comment by Puggs
2016-03-04 11:43:48

Just like 2005-06.

 
 
Comment by CalifoH20
2016-03-04 15:46:15

San Jose is like OC North. Bad traffic, road rage, rude people, dirty air… too many rats in the cage.

Comment by DaveBro in SonomaCo
2016-03-04 18:33:51

So true. I go to SJ often to visit family, and it reminds me so much of Irvine (where my company’s HQ was until recently). I lived in SJ for many years, but don’t miss it a bit. Good place to be if you’re a tech worker early in your career and want to learn a lot (and have no other interests besides work). But for the rest of us, no thanks.

Comment by rms
2016-03-05 01:17:50

“I go to SJ often to visit family, and it reminds me so much of Irvine…”

I grew there and visit family occasionally. You’re right, much too busy for my soul. I prefer San Luis Obispo, but I couldn’t afford to raise my family there with a stay at home mom, and now we are likely priced-out for good.

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Comment by Ben Jones
2016-03-04 04:01:24

‘Revere Beach, long-sufferer of chronic bad economic timing, is again the target of a comeback — one that developers hope will stick this time. On the same Revere beachfront parcel where a developer failed to build a multimillion-dollar condo building, a new team has taken over with a scaled-back proposal for 234 luxury rental apartments.’

‘Weston-based Baystone Development purchased the 2.14-acre site on Revere Beach Boulevard for $4.5 million in September from a Connecticut lender that took possession of the property through foreclosure in 2011. Launched a decade ago, the original development, known as The Ocean Club, was an ambitious upmarket remake of Revere Beach’s working-class ethos: a 12-story resort-style condominium complex where the high-end units would be priced above $1 million. Its developer even managed to secure a $3.25 million deposit on a penthouse unit before the housing bubble burst, and the project never broke ground.’

‘Seaside development ground to a halt in Revere during the housing crisis, a repeat of what happened there during the previous real estate bust in the late 1980s. “It’s a blighted [site]; nothing is built there. This will help out the area, without question,” said City Councilor Robert J. Haas Jr., a former Revere mayor. “The Ocean Club was supposed to be a spectacular building, and it never materialized.”

 
Comment by Ben Jones
2016-03-04 04:05:02

‘Lake Park doesn’t fit the image that many people likely have of a neighborhood in eastern Winston-Salem needing help. It has houses valued at well over $200,000, and the houses often boast architectural features like stucco and brick, along with stonework on the front.’

‘But Lake Park is in need of help nonetheless, its developer says, because while it represents an effort to create higher-quality housing that isn’t common on that side of town, the sale of lots has stagnated and a city loan made in the 1990s has come due.’

“From the beginning, we had a major problem in the issue of the appraising of the houses,” said developer Jose Isasi. “The issue was always the same: the houses are not appreciating in value. People say, ‘Why should I spend ‘x’ number of dollars building a house if it is going to be worth less?’ I did not make money; I lost money.”

 
Comment by Ben Jones
2016-03-04 04:09:03

‘There are 2.8 million empty homes in France. According to the French national statistical office, Insee, at the end of 2015 there were 2,880,000 empty homes in France, equivalent to 8.2% of the total housing stock. That compares with 1,992,000 empty homes in 2005, or 6.3% of the total stock, an increase of 45% in 10 years. Around half the empty homes are apartments, with the remainder individual houses.’

Comment by snake charmer
2016-03-04 07:56:45

That was one point of an article I posted here last month. The current version of the global economy features people without homes, and homes without people. Almost everywhere. That reality alone should be slapping leaders and policy-makers hard in the face, but they don’t have to live in the world they have made, so they can’t see it. A harder wake-up call will be coming.

Comment by Mafia Blocks
2016-03-04 08:06:13

What are your thoughts on the massive, excess, empty and defaulted housing inventory in the US?

 
 
Comment by Jingle Male
2016-03-06 17:53:05

Tax empty homes. They cost society in many, many ways!

 
 
Comment by Ben Jones
2016-03-04 04:14:22

‘Currently I reside in a beach resort town similar to Pattaya, only in the United States. As of last month there was an estimated six months of real estate inventory. What that means is that if no new property came on the market for the next six months, we’d run out of condos and houses to sell.’

‘More buyers than sellers … this is a classic example of a “seller’s market” … or at least it is supposed to be. But, because so many owners bought into the market at its peak in the early 2000s, they are still insolvent. While prices have returned heartily in the past couple of years, many would-be sellers are reluctant to put their property on the market. To use another real estate buzz phrase … they are still “upside down”. Not only can they not achieve any capital gain, they wouldn’t even recover their initial investment.’

‘So, while the situation looks and smells like a “seller’s market”, we have the ironic phenomenon of a “seller’s market” with no sellers. The result is a stagnation waiting for prices to rise.’

‘No buyers: Flip the property coin over and you’ll discover the situation you have in Pattaya. The amount of real estate inventory in that little slice of paradise needs to be measured in years, not months.’

‘Even though developers have restricted the number of new launches in the first half of the year, some 18,000 units remain for sale from the 68,400 that were launched between 2011 and H1 2015. So, with more sellers than buyers, this should define a classic “buyer’s market”. Too many sellers chasing too few buyers … bargain hunters and property vultures should be out in force … but they’re not.’

‘We have a “buyer’s market” with no buyers!’

‘In the example of the seller’s market, we know why there aren’t enough sellers; namely the aftermath of a recent recession. But what fly-in-the-ointment variable is stalling Pattaya’s buyer’s market? Where have all the buyers gone?’

Comment by Blue Skye
2016-03-04 06:56:51

Pattaya, where it’s cheaper to stay with a hooker than to buy a house.

Comment by Jingle Male
2016-03-06 18:17:02

Wage stagnation?

 
 
 
Comment by Ben Jones
2016-03-04 04:18:36

‘China’s housing market is recovering, but unevenly. First-tier cities, including Beijing, Shanghai and Shenzhen, have seen a real estate boom in the first two months of the year, with housing inventory dropping after the government issued a series of policies aimed at clearing the property glut across the country.’

‘New home prices in January increased about 52.7 percent year-on-year in Shenzhen, followed by Shanghai (21.4 percent) and Beijing (11.3 percent).’

‘It is inappropriate to overstate the supply glut, though, because different methods can be used to measure the country’s commercial housing inventory. China has less than 720 million square meters of unsold commercial residential buildings that have finished construction.’

‘The total undeveloped real estate land, on the other hand, is more than 366 million sq m, which roughly equals 1 billion sq m of commercial housing. The designed buildings, if all of them finish construction, could be sold in 10 months or so.’

‘Among all the indexes, the 720 million sq m of commercial residential buildings should best describe China’s unsold housing inventory-housing units that are complete. Vacant houses and apartments, therefore, can be deemed as redundancies, not as part of the inventory.’

‘In fact, it is usually “non-existing” homes-those under construction which most urban Chinese families are inclined to purchase.’

Comment by Mugsy
2016-03-04 06:51:27

I have a sneaking suspicion that the reason for China’s selective housing boom redux is because many Chinese are unable to get their ill gotten gains out of the middle kingdom and have settled on buying something domestic to launder the cash. This probably isn’t their first option but it’s better than keeping it in a bank where the gov’t. can find it or in the basement where it can go missing.

Comment by tresho
2016-03-04 16:38:23

keeping it in a bank where the gov’t. can find it Why is that better than owning Chinese real estate which (I imagine) is even easier for the Chinese gov’t. to find?

Comment by Mugsy
2016-03-04 18:02:46

Because it launders the cash.

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Comment by Combotechie
2016-03-04 04:25:44

“Home flipping can push prices artificially higher, especially in markets with the tightest inventory.”

Home flipping makes my Zillow numbers look good and these nifty Zillow numbers translate to growing equity and growing equity translates to growing wealth - my growing wealth.

So … what’s not to like?

“‘When home flipping numbers go up, it is usually an indication that the housing market is in trouble’”

Say, what?

Comment by Combotechie
2016-03-04 04:39:18

OMG! Say it ain’t so!

I just now clicked up my Zillow report and it shows that over the past thirty days my house lost - LOST! - $2,579!

The flippers! Where are the flippers? How could they have done this to me? How could they have abandoned me in my hour of need?

Comment by Jingle Male
2016-03-06 18:21:00

I am seeing lots of dropping Zestimate these days. I wonder if spring sales will change the direction?

 
 
 
Comment by Ben Jones
2016-03-04 04:42:26

‘Downtown Miami’s once overheated condo market will continue cooling off this year, according to a new report from the Downtown Development Authority.’

‘The Annual Residential Market Study Update, prepared by Integra Realty Resources, found that sales activity last year dipped substantially when compared to the growth seen in 2014. Combine that with a glut of condos in the pipeline — 28,893 units in total, up 5,619 units from the last year — and downtown Miami’s condo market is bound to lose the pace it gained over the past two years.’

‘Part of that slowdown is already evident in the reservations section of the condo pipeline. Units taking contracts or reservations fell by 42 percent at the beginning of 2016. Most of that dip is thanks to pre-construction reservations, which fell to only 207 units from the 1,598 seen last year.’

‘Another byproduct of slower sales: developers whose projects were less than 80 percent sold lowered prices for units by 5 percent to 15 percent. Even South Florida’s most prolific condo builder, the Related Group, has lowered deposits on several of its downtown projects.’

‘The reason downtown Miami is losing its steam is because foreign investment, a major driver for the market, has fallen off due to worsening global economies.’

‘The Brazilian real, for example, lost roughly 41 percent of its purchasing power in U.S. dollars last year compared to 2014. Today, a Brazilian real is worth 25 U.S. cents. Those figures were mirrored in other countries like Colombia, Argentina and Russia.’

‘That affected pre-construction sales in particular, according to the report, as new projects saw activity fall as much as 50 percent.

‘An interesting note from the report is that units currently under construction are cheaper on average than those still in pre-construction. It costs $615 per square foot on average to buy a unit under construction, compared to $706 per foot at a project that hasn’t broken ground yet.’

“The over-arching theme at the conclusion of 2015 was that presale activity, traffic, and contract sales were not nearly as strong as the close of 2014,” the report said. “As forecast during our periodic market updates, this forced some projects back to the drawing boards or off-line temporarily, and the overall result by year-end 2015 was that the total number of projects taking reservations and in contracts shrunk by 42% year over year.”

Comment by Mugsy
2016-03-04 06:53:22

Guess all those Venezuelans and Brazilians are out of cash. Adios amigos!

Comment by Mafia Blocks
2016-03-04 07:11:31

So are the chinese.

 
 
 
Comment by Ben Jones
2016-03-04 04:45:32

‘Matchmaker Renessa Rios, owner of MatchDateLove, said she sees similarities between the dating scene and house hunting. “These houses are kind of being courted by these buyers,” she explained.’

‘With sellers receiving multiple offers and bidding wars, potential homeowners are doing what they can to stand out to get their dream home. Some buyers — like Tess Jones — are writing their own love letters, this time to home sellers. “We are a family of three and so excited to purchase your condominium,” Jones wrote last year. “I tried to really give them a view into who we were,” she said.’

‘It seemed to work. Jones’ family moved into the condo last year. Some real estate brokers are recommending this to buyers. “Telling the sellers, here’s who we are and here’s why we love your property, what’s wrong with that?,” asked E.J. Bowlds of Coldwell Banker Bain on Mercer Island. “Maybe it makes a difference.”

Comment by snake charmer
2016-03-04 08:04:04

From 2005:

“Within a month of putting her two-bedroom house in San Francisco on the market recently, homeowner Linda Gao had five offers, each one above her asking price of $699,000. So before accepting the most-attractive bid, she threw in an extra condition: If you want to buy my house, you have to feed the squirrels.”

http://www.burbed.com/tag/kqed/

 
Comment by Mole Man
2016-03-04 09:52:00

This happened to me when I sold my house. I got all these creepy house love letters from young couples in nesting mode. Then I took the biggest cash offer. Don’t bring creepy love letters to a cash fight.

Comment by Puggs
2016-03-04 12:03:22

Xaclty. Only MOAR cash will win this one.

 
Comment by rms
2016-03-05 01:22:32

“Then I took the biggest cash offer.”

At the end of the day it’s all about numero-uno. :)

 
 
Comment by tresho
2016-03-04 16:39:32

similarities between the dating scene and house hunting
Lots of wishful thinking both ways

Comment by CalifoH20
2016-03-04 17:06:07

and at over 40 yr everything needs repairs….

 
 
 
Comment by Ben Jones
2016-03-04 04:48:23

‘Foreclosures are going up in Greater Washington — with Prince George’s and Montgomery counties leading the way. Prince George’s County has seen a jump in completed foreclosures — houses that were foreclosed upon and went through the entire process — over the last few years. In 2012, there were 1,091 completed foreclosures in the county, but that number has steadily grown to 1,934 in 2015, according to data provided to the Washington Business Journal by housing data firm RealtyTrac.’

‘In 2006, the median home value for the D.C. metro was about $430,000 but fell to about $305,000 in 2011, according to real estate firm Zillow. Home values across the metro area have still not fully recovered and are holding around $357,000.’

‘The increase in foreclosures is most likely the aftereffects of the housing crisis, said Daren Blomquist, the vice president of RealtyTrac. He said Maryland took a far more proactive approach during that time and instituted a number of programs to prevent or delay foreclosures.’

“While this did help many homeowners avoid foreclosure, it also just delayed the inevitable for a certain segment,” Blomquist said. “It was just a temporary delay.”

Comment by Ben Jones
2016-03-04 04:51:37

‘Colorado Springs-area foreclosure activity has spiked during the first two months of 2016, although El Paso County Public Trustee Tom Mowle said it’s too early to predict if that trend will continue.’

‘A report released Tuesday by Mowle’s office shows foreclosure notices filed against local residential and commercial property owners totaled 156 in February - the highest number for any month since October 2014. February’s foreclosure notices also rose by two-thirds over the same month last year and increased 17.3 percent from January.’

‘For the first two months of 2016, foreclosure notices totaled 289 or 52.1 percent higher than the same period last year.’

 
Comment by taxpayers
2016-03-04 05:52:52

“Instituted programs” = screwed taxpayers

 
 
Comment by Ben Jones
2016-03-04 04:54:47

‘Calgary’s real-estate market continues to show signs of stress with lower sales, listings and benchmark prices in February, even as the average price climbed.’

‘In its monthly housing summary, CREB numbers show the average price for a home in the city rose 2.7 per cent, to $472,529. But the average appeared to be pulled higher by an increase in the number of luxury homes sold in February — 38 homes fetched more than $1 million in February 2016, a 52 per cent increase from a year earlier, when 25 $1-million-plus homes were sold.’

“Slow sales and elevated housing inventory has resulted in further price declines,” CREB chief economist Ann-Marie Lurie said in a statement. “Given the current economic environment, it is no surprise that consumer confidence and housing demand is being impacted.”

“The high volume of inventory that we’re seeing has pushed sellers to be more realistic about their pricing expectations and the amount of time their properties may be on the market,” CREB president Cliff Stevenson said in a statement.’

Comment by Ben Jones
2016-03-04 04:59:38

‘Two-thirds of Canadians included in a recent poll said the government should get more involved in the housing market to ensure the system is fair. Ottawa has already recently moved to cool a particular segment of the market, requiring down payments of at least 10 per cent for properties valued at more than $500,000.’

‘Earlier this month, a practice known as “shadow flipping” has come under fire. Essentially, by taking advantage of a clause in standard real estate contracts known as an “assignment clause,” some realtors been generating huge commissions by flipping properties between a number of buyers until the ultimate sale is booked.’

‘Critics say that abuses a system that was originally designed to protect sellers in the event of a buyer backing out by merely adding to the speculation by driving up prices multiple times during a single sales transaction.’

‘Respondents to the Angus Reid poll were solidly against the practice, with 65 per cent of them saying shadow flipping is “unacceptable.” That was especially true among respondents from B.C., where shadow flipping has become prevalent according to recent media reports. And older Canadians were also more likely to be against the practice than younger Canadians were.’

‘All in all, the poll found that more than half of respondents — 56 per cent — of Canadians who live in cities say housing prices in their area fall outside of what could be considered “reasonable.”

‘People who live in the hot markets of Toronto and Vancouver have complained about housing prices in previous reports. But Angus Reid’s findings are different in that even if those two cities are stripped out, a majority of people still say prices are too high where they live.’

“No fewer than 45 per cent in Edmonton, Calgary, Winnipeg, Montreal or Halifax view prices as either high or unreasonably high,” Angus Reid said in a release accompanying the poll.’

‘Even in Calgary, where the ongoing economic downturn has slowed new construction and left analysts warning a market correction may be underway — nearly half of respondents said prices remain too high.’

 
 
Comment by Ben Jones
2016-03-04 05:03:09

‘Insane. That’s how Jonathan Tepper, chief executive officer at research firm Variant Perception, described Australia’s housing sector in a word, painting the picture of a market that’s strikingly similar to that of the U.S. prior to the financial crisis.’

‘A local 60 Minutes segment that aired on Sunday titled “Home Groans” chronicled some of the eye-popping events in the nation’s real estate market, with amateurs owning (and under water on) multiple homes with no tenants, interest-only loans increasing in prominence, price-to-income ratios at elevated levels, and home auctions attended by the community and captured for the small screen.’

‘While most discussions of frothy housing markets focus on the low cost of credit (and central banks’ role in that), the ability to access credit is arguably more important. A borrower may be willing to take on a dangerous amount of leverage to be part of a seemingly can’t-miss opportunity.’

Comment by Combotechie
2016-03-04 05:10:53

Here’s that 60 Minutes video of “Home Groans” (run time = 14 minutes).

Well worth a watch, IMO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_ktN_h7-J4

Comment by Sacks of Dong
2016-03-04 16:38:45

Cool show.

 
 
 
Comment by Ben Jones
2016-03-04 05:06:30

‘China’s monetary policies have encouraged investors to pour money into real estate, inflating prices in cities such as Beijing, Shanghai and Shenzhen and increasing the risk that bubbles could form, central bank policy adviser Bai Chongen said in an interview.’

‘At the same time, smaller property markets are struggling with excess inventory, making it difficult to craft a unified policy response and requiring careful coordination with fiscal measures, he said. “I can’t say whether there are bubbles right now, but we’re worried about such a problem,” said Bai, an economics professor at Tsinghua University in Beijing. Government goals to cut oversupply in smaller cities and controlling the bubble in bigger ones “are contradictory,” he said.’

‘Bai said previous policy measures to encourage people to buy homes included reducing down payments and loosening restrictions on purchases in certain locations. “Interest rates have gone down a lot, and it would certainly boost asset prices in tier-one cities, but that doesn’t help tier-three or four cities with their overly high inventories,” he said.’

The overhang of excess housing supply continues. While new construction is running at about 10.5 million units a year, demand is for less than 8 million units per year, according to an analysis by Bloomberg Intelligence analyst Fielding Chen in Hong Kong.’

“There won’t be new investment in tier 3 and 4 cities,” Bai said. “And there shouldn’t be any new investment — there’s already so much in inventory.”

Comment by Ben Jones
2016-03-04 05:08:48

‘Wang agreed to pay the extra money, but the deal fell through anyway. The home owner went with an estate agent, who promised to sell the apartment for 470,000 yuan more. Wang tried to persuade the owner to honor the deal, but was locked out of the realtor’s office. This dramatic turn of events all happened in less than half an hour’

It’s like a Marx Brothers movie. Chinese: dumbest investors ever.

 
Comment by Mugsy
2016-03-04 06:56:12

I should’ve kept reading before I posted above re Chinese RE bubble.. I am so embarrassed…

 
Comment by snake charmer
2016-03-04 08:09:27

Yes. Worried. How many times have the geniuses running China tried to slow this down, only to reverse course almost immediately? Ten? Fifty? A hundred?

This will never stop voluntarily as long as the present group is in control.

Comment by Ben Jones
2016-03-04 08:29:22

‘China should follow Elvis’s advice for more action, less conversation: Russell’

‘If you were to pick one thing that would do the most to help embattled commodity producers around the world, dealing with China’s massive over-capacity would probably rank highest. It’s no secret that China’s surplus capacity in steel, aluminium, cement, flat glass and other intermediate commodities is keeping prices low and threatening the viability of global resource companies, as well as the health of the Chinese economy.’

‘There certainly have been repeated statements from Beijing that the issues are being tackled, and it appears the authorities have realised that excess capacity is a far bigger threat than what it was during the prior boom years, when double-digit economic growth rates masked mounting problems.’

‘But is China actually doing anything to address the issues, especially in the most affected sectors, such as steel and aluminium? According to the European Chamber of Commerce in China the answer is a definite no.’

‘“Central government efforts to address excessive production capacity have been ineffectual due to regional protectionism, weak regulatory enforcement, low resource pricing, misdirected investment, inadequate protection of intellectual property rights and an emphasis on market share,” the chamber said in a report released this week.’

‘Leaving aside the obvious criticism that the chamber has a powerful self-interest motivation to see China cut capacity, there is fairly strong evidence that the actual rationalisation of capacity is far from what is needed. China’s State Council, the country’s cabinet, earlier this month announced plans to cut steel capacity by 100 million to 150 million tonnes within the next five years.’

‘Even if this is achieved, it would be nowhere near enough, given the current surplus capacity is close to 400 million tonnes, about one-third of China’s total 1.2 billion tonnes of capability.’

‘The utilisation rate of China’s steel mills was about 67 percent last year, down from 80 percent in 2008, and the situation may actually get worse this year, as the China Iron & Steel Association expects additional capacity to be commissioned in 2016.’

‘This suggests that China’s steel sector is actually moving in the wrong direction, raising the risks of a brutal shakeout in coming years, rather than a managed process that steadily reduces capacity to levels more aligned with demand.’

‘In aluminium, the risk is also that China sees higher output this year, when what the global market really needs is lower production. Global output of the energy-intensive metal rose 9 percent last year, but demand increased by about 4 percent, resulting in a build-up in inventories, according to JPMorgan analysts.’

‘While some Chinese aluminium output was curbed last year, this year it is expected to rise as new projects come onstream in the west of the country.’

‘What are the implications of China not being able to take effective steps to curb excess capacity? In the short to medium term it means that prices of beneficiated commodities such as steel and aluminium are likely to remain under pressure, as are the prices of the raw materials from which they are made, such as iron ore, coking coal, bauxite and alumina.’

‘It also means that rallies in prices are likely to be brief and driven by news flow and spot trades, rather than changes in fundamentals.’

‘The question policymakers in Beijing need to answer is what is the least painful, but effective, solution to overcapacity. All of them come with costs and challenges. A market-based solution, allowing those that can’t compete to go out of business, will result in large-scale job losses and debt problems at local and regional governments, which will likely be exacerbated as these authorities borrow more in efforts to keep loss-making plants open.’

‘Beijing has been kicking the excess capacity can down the road for at least the past five years, but as the Japanese found with their asset bubble in the late Eighties and the Europeans are starting to realise with Greece, problems can’t be shunted along forever.’

“A little less conversation, a little more action please. All this aggravation ain’t satisfactioning me,” sang the late Elvis Presley. Leaving aside the dubious verb construction, the Chinese should listen to the king.’

Comment by tresho
2016-03-04 16:45:53

A market-based solution, allowing those that can’t compete to go out of business, will result in large-scale job losses
followed by riots, political unrest and either (1) the PLA suppressing the “people” a la 六四事件 &/or (2) downfall of the regime.
FIFY

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Comment by Ben Jones
2016-03-04 05:13:31

‘Forever blowing bubbles, Chinese investors pump Shanghai property’

‘Frenzied property buying in Shanghai has set alarm bells ringing that a new bubble is forming, just months after China’s frothy stock markets crashed, raising fears about a replay of the real estate bust that has hit the country’s growth since 2012. The property revival has coincided with investors’ abrupt loss of faith in China’s share markets, which had soared 150 percent in the year to mid-2015, only to give up fourth fifths of those gains since the summer.’

“The (property) market seems crazy again. I have no idea why it’s crazy, but it should be the right time to buy,” said Wang Zhongcai, a 50-year-old clerk, who was queuing, among many others, to register ownership of a small investment apartment he had bought.’

‘As developers poured money into new builds and unrelated companies set up property arms, residential housing development as a share of economic output tripled in a decade, until government measures to cool the market ended the frenzy.’

‘Chastened by the impact of that bust, which left a huge stock of unsold apartments across China and hammered industries supplying construction materials, Beijing has for the last 18 months been trying to soften the blow, cutting interest rates, downpayment requirements and property transaction taxes.’

“First-tier cities have a more sophisticated environment (for speculation). Investors see room for prices to rise because there’s a lot of demand yet limited supply,” said Clement Luk, chief executive officer for eastern China at realtor Centaline. He added that Shenzhen, a booming major city in southwest China, was blazing the trail for Shanghai.’

“People think since Shenzhen has gone up 50 to 60 percent last year while Shanghai was up only 20 percent, it should be now Shanghai’s turn.”

‘But the history of China’s booms and busts and Beijing’s efforts to cap the highs and cushion the lows has made some investors wary that what goes up too fast comes down as speedily. “This rally is too crazy,” said a property agent who gave his last name as Xu. “I own three units in Shanghai and I’m planning to sell them. I think a chill wind is blowing to the first-tier city, and I worry that the government will implement cooling measure soon.”

Comment by Ben Jones
2016-03-04 05:15:02

‘The (property) market seems crazy again. I have no idea why it’s crazy, but it should be the right time to buy’

Yeah, it’s a good thing we haven’t hitched our economic wagon to these guys.

 
 
Comment by Ben Jones
2016-03-04 05:55:21

‘Much like the sun, the financialization of the economy has provided an endless stream of fuel for growth, Janus Capital Bill Gross said in his latest outlook letter. Unlike the sun, though, which has a good five billion years left in it, the finance economy’s fuel is just about spent. The move into the black hole of negative rates might just be the final act, Mr. Gross added.’

“Instead of historically generating economic growth via a wealth effect and its trickle-down effect on the real economy, negative investment rates and the expansion of central bank balance sheets via quantitative easing are creating negative effects,” he wrote. Negative rates threaten bank profits as well as any business models that depend upon 7-8% annual returns on assets. He’s talking mainly about insurance companies and pension funds, a topic he’s hit on a number of times. “And the damage extends to all savers; households worldwide that saved/invested money for college, retirement or for medical bills. They have been damaged, and only now are becoming aware of it.”

Negative rates are “an enigma to almost all global investors,” he says, that undermine the basic architecture of the financial markets. “But central bankers seem ever intent on going lower, ignorant in my view of the harm being done to a classical economic model that has driven prosperity – until it reached a negative interest rate dead end and could drive no more.”

‘Mr. Gross takes note of the “somewhat suspicious uniform attack on high denomination bills,” the sudden crop of arguments against the $100 U.S. bill or the €500 euro. Why might that be? “ It appears that the one remaining escape hatch for ordinary citizens is being closed,” he wrote. “The cashless society which appears over the horizon may come sooner than the demise of the penny.” If actually banning cash doesn’t do the trick, the central bankers might be forced into literal “helicopter” drops of money.’

“Can any/all of these policy alternatives save the system?” he asked. “We shall find out, but current evidence of the past seven years’ experience would support only a D+ report card grade. Barely passing. As an investor though – and as a citizen in this election year – you should be aware that our finance based economic system which like the sun has provided life and productive growth for a long, long time – is running out of fuel and that its remaining time span is something less than 5 billion years.”

Comment by Blue Skye
2016-03-04 07:16:06

“If actually banning cash doesn’t do the trick, the central bankers might be forced into literal “helicopter” drops of money”

One sentence that is proof we are in economic insanity. Let’s try no money. OK, let’s try an infinite amount of money.

Comment by tresho
2016-03-04 16:48:15

Let’s try no money. OK, let’s try an infinite amount of money.
Then let’s try negative money.

Comment by Blue Skye
2016-03-04 17:57:45

Yeah Anti-money.

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Comment by snake charmer
2016-03-04 08:17:40

“And the damage extends to all savers; households worldwide that saved/invested money for college, retirement or for medical bills. They have been damaged, and only now are becoming aware of it.”
____________________________/

I’ve been aware of it for seven years. I’d venture that all other savers have too. The people who have “only now become aware” of the damage are people like Bill Gross.

I’ve been deprived of thousands of dollars to support a financial system run by crooks and grifters for their own benefit. And now they want more, in the form of negative rates.

 
 
Comment by Ben Jones
2016-03-04 06:02:35

‘Nothing. Nobody’s come to look at it … Nobody’s called. I’m not really sure (why),’ Tina Jackson said of the two-storey, three-bedroom Westview house, which she and her husband bought in 2008 for $350,000 and listed for $399,000 on Feb. 1.’

‘The Jacksons are not the only people in Saskatoon struggling to sell their homes. ‘I know some people that are listing their houses under market value just to sell it, and they’re going to lose money,’ Jackson said, adding that while she and her husband have already slashed their asking price by $10,000, they haven’t considered selling at a loss or boosting the property’s appeal with expensive improvements. ‘Hanging tight for right now,’ she said. ‘I’m sure we’ll have to consider another price drop at some point, but (we’re) not ready for that quite yet.’

Golly Tina, you must be heartbroken. Sure the economy is in the tank, but can’t these greedy buyers just choke up the 50 grand of profit you are hanging tight for?

‘Nothing. Nobody’s come to look at it … Nobody’s called’

‘I’m not really sure (why)’

Comment by Mugsy
2016-03-04 06:58:12

The key to surviving as a gambler is knowing when to fold a losing hand.

Comment by Ben Jones
2016-03-04 08:18:53

This really cracks me up because how solemn the tone is. I can just see the reporter, quietly asking questions like a dying relative is in the room nearby:

‘Nothing. Nobody’s come to look at it … Nobody’s called’

(You’ll be OK Tina, stay strong)

‘I know some people that are listing their houses under market value just to sell it, and they’re going to lose money’

But, it’s in your DNA to reap speculative gains! LOSE money? That’s downright un-Canadian!

‘Hanging tight for right now…I’m sure we’ll have to consider another price drop at some point, but (we’re) not ready for that quite yet.’

Again, like a dying relative on life support and she’s deciding if she should pull the plug. “I can’t even consider that right now, it’s all too much too soon.”

Comment by Mafia Blocks
2016-03-04 08:28:53

“a dying relative is in the room nearby”

^ :mrgreen:

If the price of a rapidly depreciating house is so inflated that the only way to afford it is signing up for a 30 year loan, then you have indeed committed suicide. It’s a Financial Funeral by definition.

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Comment by tresho
2016-03-04 16:50:23

“I can’t even consider that right now, it’s all too much too soon.”
Then wait until your beloved relative has become mummified or skeletal. At that point, mail in your keys & let the next buyer find those remains.

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Comment by Senior Housing Analyst
2016-03-04 07:23:24

Miami, FL Housing Market Caves; Prices Crater 5% YoY As Declines Spread Statewide

http://www.zillow.com/miami-fl/home-values/

 
Comment by Ben Jones
2016-03-04 13:21:23

‘The market starts in the so-called nerve centre of Australia, being Sydney, and it works its way until yield compression gets to a point that it’s not worth playing; then they move north to Queensland and then eventually they cross the Nullarbor,’ Jenkins said, referring to the flat desert plain that west-bound travellers cross to reach Western Australia’

Sounds like he’s describing a swarm of locusts or a weather system.

 
Comment by Ben Jones
2016-03-04 13:23:25

‘An aversion to risk in the global bond markets has caused new CMBS issuance to slow down significantly in early 2016. ‘There’s no stability in the market, it’s just so hard for people to price loans,’ said Kellogg Gaines, a managing director at JLL. ‘It’s hard to take the dive and commit to doing a loan that may lose money within a few weeks.’

Hardly sounds like a safe deposit box. This article is the most in depth I’ve ever seen from the Real Deal. Lots of good input from those interviewed.

 
Comment by Ben Jones
2016-03-04 13:28:04

‘One agency provides credit up to 20 percent of their deposit without any collateral. The money was raised through peer-to-peer lending investments that promise 8 to 12 percent annualized return’

I can just see the smashed furniture and home-made banners when these investors get the news.

 
Comment by Ben Jones
2016-03-04 13:33:27

Regarding what we discussed yesterday about the corrupt people running Mexico:

‘The drug lord Joaquín “El Chapo” Guzmán bankrolled the election of senior Mexico politicians and twice secretly entered the United States to visit relatives, according to his eldest daughter. Rosa Isela Guzmán Ortiz said that shortly after an interview with Hollywood star Sean Penn last year, her father dodged a massive manhunt with the complicity of corrupt Mexican officials and evaded US border controls to sneak into California – despite being one of the world’s most wanted fugitives.’

‘She also accused senior Mexican politicians of accepting donations from El Chapo when they ran for office, and said that in return officials turned a blind eye to his escapes from prison. “My dad is not a criminal. The government is guilty,” she told the Guardian.’

‘Guzmán Ortiz, 39, made the claims in a series of interviews which she said were given in consultation with her father. El Chapo was recaptured in January after seven months on the run, and sent back to the Altiplano security jail near Mexico – the same prison from which he escaped in July 2015 through a tunnel which opened into his shower stall.’

‘The second breakout was widely seen as an especially humiliating blow to the government of President Enrique Peña Nieto, but according to his daughter, senior officials had already given the green light for the escape. “My dad’s escape was an agreement,” she said.’

‘Guzmán Ortiz said her father crossed the border in late 2015 to visit relatives and to view her home, a five-bedroom house with a large garden which he bought for her and her four children. She granted the interview on condition its location not be disclosed. “My dad deposited the money in a bank account with a lawyer and a while after he came to see the house, his house. He came twice.”

‘El Chapo’s luck finally ran out in January, when he was cornered in the coastal town of Los Mochis. The daughter attributed her father’s capture to a betrayal by senior Mexican officials and politicians. “If there’s a pact, they don’t respect it. Now that they catch him they say he’s a criminal, a killer. But they didn’t say that when they asked for money for their campaigns. They’re hypocrites.”

Comment by snake charmer
2016-03-04 14:56:04

Note to The Guardian: he didn’t walk across the desert. If Guzman crossed into California, twice, U.S. officials were on the take too.

The allegation about senior Mexican officials “green-lighting” El Chapo’s escape was pretty funny, though. So was the bit about Guzman depositing funds in a local bank branch so that his daughter could buy a house. Was the bank HSBC?

Comment by Ben Jones
2016-03-04 16:45:37

He could have used a tunnel, that’s their specialty. But you would think he’s shy away from his daughter, unless…

 
 
Comment by snake charmer
2016-03-04 15:03:38

In the truth is stranger than fiction department, Guzman’s meeting with Sean Penn was arranged by soap opera actress Kate del Castillo, who twice has portrayed a drug kingpin in telenovelas, most recently last year in one called “Duenos del Paraiso.” My wife and I watched a few episodes.

http://tinyurl.com/hxuvmnz

 
 
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