There May Be A Blowout Looming
A report from the Corn and Soybean Digest. “One critical aspect of this economic downturn in agriculture is the possibility of increased risk with larger farms. The financial plight of many larger producers is not measured by acreage or livestock numbers, but by farm net income. My good friends at University of Minnesota’s Center for Farm Financial Management provide excellent analysis of their FINBIN database. The main concern for lenders and regulators is the concentration of debt with fewer producers. Data suggests that 10 to 12 percent of U.S. farms and ranches carry 63 percent of farm debt, which has increased dramatically in recent years. Many of the larger farms have significant equity in the form of farmland. However, even strong equity does not change the fact that only profits and cash flow pay the bills, not dirt.”
“According to FINBIN data on 2015 net farm income of larger operations, both crop and livestock, there may be a possible blowout looming. In the database, all farms with more than $2 Million in gross revenue generated a median net farm income of just over $126,000. The top 20 percent of farms generated slightly over $579,000. However, the median net farm income for the lower 20 percent was $-332,000. Losses of this size are unfortunately, sometimes an ugly reality of larger operations.”
The Farmers Exchange. “Grain farmers and agriculture businessmen and women gathered last Wednesday for the annual Pinney Purdue Field Day at the Pinney Purdue Agricultural Center in Wanatah. More than 150 individuals attended the event to listen to educators and specialists about corn, soybeans and other topics that farmers are dealing with. Jason Henderson, associate dean and director of Purdue Extension, gave his answer to the question, ‘Will the cash crunch in agriculture turn into a farm bust?’”
“In discussing this, he referred to the tough times that agriculture and farmers dealt with during the 1970s and 1980s, and that many farmers today are feeling some of the same rhythms from that time. ‘We are on the downturn now, we’re filling the cash crunch, but will this turn into a bust? In my opinion, I think the answer is no. I don’t think the farm economy is going to go bust if agriculture remembers the biggest lesson of the 1980s: Don’t leverage the farm,’ said Henderson.”
From Agriculture.com. “With $3 corn and $9 soybeans, it’s easy to see why farmland values are declining. But don’t take our word for it. There are scads of reports from industry experts. In the Washington County, David Klein, managing broker and auctioneer with Illinois-based Soy Capital Services says farmers bought most of the tracts. This continues to be the case in most sales, although we’re seeing more investor action in some of the sales we’ve tracked. ‘People are trying to make the case that outside investors are propping up land values,’ says Steve Nicholson, analyst with Rabobank Financial. ‘However, farmers are still buying the majority of the land. Are there outside investors? Yes. But it’s not the majority.’”
“Farmers are facing tougher times for the foreseeable future. ‘The majority of the farmer-buyers are using some form of leverage, and we are watching that closely,’ Klein says. ‘Farmland will not cash-flow when you borrow too much money. We like to get three quarters of the purchase price as a down payment, either with cash or pledging more farmland.’ The mid-year survey conducted by the Illinois Society of Professional Farm Managers and Rural Appraisers, released September 1, suggests that 80% of the farmland sales conducted in that state so far in 2016 featured some sort of borrowing.”
“For farmers, financial stress is setting in. ‘Farmers are illiquid. They need cash to pay the bills. We’ve seen some farmers sell land to generate cash, and we expect we may see some more of that this fall,’ Nicholson says. If raising cash is necessary, this strategy makes some sense. ‘Would you rather sell 600 acres now and right the ship a bit, or wait two to three years down the road and lose the whole business?’ Nicholson asks. ‘I’m trying to get folks to think a bit differently.’”
The Des Moines Register. “Getting started in farming has always been difficult, but the recent collapse in corn and soybean prices makes it that much harder, experts say. Corn and soybean prices are as much as 60 percent below their peaks in 2012. It’s an important issue in Iowa, an ag powerhouse. The state had about 132,000 farmers in 2012, 4,500 fewer than five years earlier, mirroring declines in the number of farms, based on the 2012 U.S. Agriculture Census. They’re also getting older, with the average age of farmers climbing nearly five years to 57 over 15 years.”
“‘In this environment, it’s tough to be a beginning farmer or an experienced farmer when production costs exceed revenue,’ said Steve Bruere, president of the Peoples Co., a farm management and real estate brokerage in Clive. ‘It’s tough for everybody.’”
From Radio Iowa. “Rex Wilcox, a farm management specialist with Stalcup Ag in Storm Lake, says after three years of losses, operators need cash rent concessions to shrink operating costs. Income has been falling, he says, while input costs remained steady. ‘Farm operators are in a position financially where they’re looking for the rents to come down,’ Wilcox says. ‘In some cases, their loan officers are putting pressure on them to have the rents come down. The cash flow is just not there anymore and they have to have some break on the rental rates.’”
“Wilcox says some landowners have been adjusting rents downward the last few years with lower commodity prices. However, with a bumper crop expected and corn prices very low, they may need to lower rents again for the year ahead.”
“‘We’ve seen some decreases of around 10% since 2013,’ Wilcox says. ‘So, 2014 was 10% less than 2013 and 2015 was 10% less than 2014 and it might take that kind of decrease to make things work again.’ Many multi-year leases will expire this year, which may mean some ground will see new renters. He’s also hearing about some operators trying to break long-term arrangements.”
“‘I think you’re going to see more terminations of farm leases by operators this year than we’ve seen in a long time,’ Wilcox says. ‘That’s the indication I’m getting from talking with attorneys. They say they’re doing a lot of business with farm operators that are coming in and asking to produce a termination to send to their landowner.’”
From Beef Magazine. “A new report from Rabobank says farmland rent values must drop to meet lower commodity prices and it’s highly probably all land values will fall, too. ‘If rental costs remain sticky at unsustainable levels through the 2017-18 growing period, individual land assets face the threat of much deeper devaluation, as nutrient and crop protection programs are cut and abandonment (usage changes) increases,’ says Sterling Liddell, Rabobank Food & Agribusiness Research and Advisory service analyst.”
“Even with a decline in rental values, farmland acreage contraction will still likely be needed before commodity prices reach a sustainable level in the long term, Rabobank analysts say. This should mean a return to grass and forage crops. To balance supply and demand at a sustainable breakeven price, Rabobank analysts estimate that 3-5 million acres will be forced out of corn, soybean and wheat production over the next three years. This is about a 2% decline from the five-year average of total farmland.”
From Bloomberg. “Total farm debt in Canada, the world’s largest canola grower and one of the biggest wheat exporters, will rise at a slower pace in 2017 as gains cool for the value of agricultural land. Canadian farmers took on more debt in the past 15 years as low interest rates prompted them to buy more land as incomes soared. Between 2001 and 2015, farm debt jumped by 126 percent and the value of farmland rose by 211 percent, according to the report. Now, cooling gains for land, which accounts for about two-thirds of farm assets, may make growers more hesitant in taking on loans, especially amid a prolonged slump for commodity prices.”
“Land values are ‘clearly coming down, and that is going to have an impact on farm debt,’ J.P. Gervais, the chief agricultural economist at Farm Credit Canada, said in a conference call before the report’s release.”
Farmland Prices Fall in Central U.S.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/farmland-prices-fall-in-central-u-s-1470924760
‘Canadian farmers took on more debt in the past 15 years as low interest rates prompted them to buy more land as incomes soared.’
‘In some cases, their loan officers are putting pressure on them to have the rents come down. The cash flow is just not there anymore and they have to have some break on the rental rates.’
‘Farmers are illiquid. They need cash to pay the bills. We’ve seen some farmers sell land to generate cash, and we expect we may see some more of that this fall’…If raising cash is necessary, this strategy makes some sense. ‘Would you rather sell 600 acres now and right the ship a bit, or wait two to three years down the road and lose the whole business?’
‘To balance supply and demand at a sustainable breakeven price, Rabobank analysts estimate that 3-5 million acres will be forced out of corn, soybean and wheat production over the next three years’
Sell now into lower prices, higher debt, lease terminations and land being forced out of production. Golly, it could be a blow-out. It’s interesting how often all this easy money turns out to be painful.
Depreciating assets are a B to cover after the first payment.
Promote lower prices. Use cash!
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The more debt I see the tighter I hug my cash at night.
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Why not? They’re both fully a part of the fed’s now. One of them has a few billion to blow on a new headquarters in DC.
In a time of universal fraud, possession is 9/10s of the law.
the financiers have america by the balls!
Did I hear somebody say falling house prices?
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1848-S-Columbine-St-Denver-CO-80210/13373441_zpid/
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/3951-E-Dartmouth-Ave-Denver-CO-80210/13387335_zpid/
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1561-S-Pennsylvania-St-Denver-CO-80210/13369271_zpid/
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1771-S-Lincoln-St-Denver-CO-80210/13369767_zpid/
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1975-S-Pennsylvania-St-Denver-CO-80210/82592708_zpid/
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1188-S-Washington-St-Denver-CO-80210/13368415_zpid/
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2480-S-High-St-Denver-CO-80210/13377408_zpid/
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/3031-S-Madison-St-Denver-CO-80210/13387646_zpid/
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1157-S-Vine-St-Denver-CO-80210/13370188_zpid/
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/3015-S-Cook-St-Denver-CO-80210/13387655_zpid/
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1467-S-Lafayette-St-Denver-CO-80210/13370947_zpid/
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2640-S-Josephine-St-Denver-CO-80210/13375084_zpid/
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1127-S-Gaylord-St-Denver-CO-80210/13370169_zpid/
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1420-S-Elizabeth-St-Denver-CO-80210/13372896_zpid/
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2225-Buchtel-Blvd-APT-309-Denver-CO-80210/52964659_zpid/
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1846-S-Logan-St-Denver-CO-80210/13369884_zpid/
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1220-S-Gilpin-St-Denver-CO-80210/13370256_zpid/
Lurkers and newbs, read and learn.
$100,000 price reductions are just mere half measures.
Nothing accelerates the economy and creates jobs like a 50%+ decline in housing prices. Nothing.
Wow….Those prices in Denver are astronomical! Do the buyers not read the pricing history?
It appears most of America has fallen ill with post-2008 amnesia.
It’s like people are standing in line to overpay. Cray, cray.
DENialVER
OMG, it’s DENVER peeps. Not O.C.
There’s no ocean here. Just air pollution, rush hour traffic that lasts all day (with alot of stoned drivers), no culture, and if you think you’re gonna move here and zip up to the mountains to ski for a weekend daytrip, forget about that unless you leave before 6am, and it will probably take you 4 hours to drive home from Summit County.
I used to live in the Springs and the drive to skiing was enough to prevent us from going very often. I think a lot of Mill’s that move there think that exact thing - zipping up to the mountains to ski for the afternoon. LOL!!!
I went to the first link:
08/10/16 Listed for sale $749,900-6.3% $239 Agent
07/06/16 Listing removed $799,900 $255 –
06/18/16 Listed for sale $799,900+56.8% $255 Agent
06/01/15 Sold $510,000-2.9% $162
03/21/08 Sold $525,000+29.3% $167
06/24/05 Sold $406,000-25.4% $129
12/02/04 Sold: Foreclosed to lender – $0
09/10/04 Sold: Foreclosed to lender $544,101+293% $173
07/23/99 Sold $138,500 $44
Bought it in June and immediately listed it for 290k more, without enough time to do anything to it.
C’mon Ben Jones, did you forget that Denver is magical?
Remember sitting on the patio at Shelby’s bar a year ago and getting panhandled over the patio railing? I’m walking around downtown right now wondering why anybody would want to live here.
Thought the same thing, then saw 6.1.15, listed 6.18.16. Crap flip. Lived in it a year to avert tax hit.
You’re right, I missed that. Still, the only thing crazier than trying to make 290k in a year on a half million dollar house would be if they sold it for anywhere near that and an appraiser signed off on it. Get this:
Zestimate®: $938,799
I’m just hoping appraisers “adjust” for current market conditions as strongly and promptly when the market is going down as they did on the up-swing…
Lived in it a year to avert tax hit.
I thought two years (out of five) were required to avert the tax hit.
1 year for capital gains. I think you are right about the exemption…unless they were going to trade into another home–1031 exchange.
Taxes steady for 5 years ads assessment rises
Wow,that’s about to change
Newcastle, WA Housing Prices Plunge 7% YoY As Seattle Metro Housing Correction Expands
http://www.zillow.com/newcastle-wa/home-values/
Has anyone else noticed that the “Median Sale Price” on the drop-down for the chart is greyed-out now? Any ideas as to why? That’s the only data on Zillow that I consider useful, and I can’t get at it anymore.
there is already talk about a santa claus rally! LMFAO
BTFD!
Columbus Day rally first! ! iPhone 7 is out!
‘Just Reduced Properties in Arlington (VA)’
As of September 6, there are 207 detached homes, 61 townhouses and 304 apartments for sale throughout Arlington County. In total, 34 homes experienced a price reduction in the past week.
Here is this week’s selection of Just Reduced properties:
4111 15th Street North, 22207 – NOW: $1,469,000 (Reduced $30,950 on 8/31)
2541 Military Road, 22207 – NOW: $1,395,000 (Reduced $30,000 on 9/5)
5919 15th Street North, 22205 – NOW: $889,000 (Reduced $25,000 on 9/2)
1145 Lincoln Street South, 22204 – NOW: $814,900 (Reduced $10,005 on 8/31)
5214 26th Street North, 22207 – NOW: $685,000 (Reduced $20,000 on 8/31)
880 Pollard Street #621, 22203 – NOW $420,000 (Reduced $8,000 on 9/6)
206 Trenton Street Unit 206-1, 22203 – NOW: $209,900 (Reduced $5,100 on 8/31)
We’re nowhere near desperation phase yet with those minor price reductions.
Unfortunately, we’re gonna *have* to get to deep desperation and animalistic fear.
Are there such things as Spider Donkeys?
There was once, but they all got whipped too much.
Is there anything else that create jobs and accelerates the economy like falling prices to dramatically lower and more levels does? Anything?
I dunno CR.
Here’s a bloomberg article today about the price slashers in NYC. Started in the upper market and now progressing down the chain.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-09-07/manhattan-s-luxury-real-estate-slowdown-is-spreading-to-other-price-tiers
Who knows, maybe all we get is some minor slashing and then level out in a nice soft landing.
We saw oil drop from $140 a barrel to $35… and the economy went gangbusters–right?! Or does it have to go to $11? Maybe $9 is the magic number. Reality check for HA.
Lola,
Considering domestic production cost is down around $6 a barrel its got a long way to fall.
where is the beef? It took a huge hit already! 80% drop! So you are saying for your theory to take effect we need a 90% drop or more? Get a life!
Grossly inflated and falling Lola. Grossly inflated and falling.
TRUMP:
“We should work with any country that shares our goal of destroying ISIS and defeating radical Islamic terrorism, and form new friendships and partnerships based on this mission,” Trump said.
He added: “Immediately after taking office, I will ask my generals to present to me a plan within 30 days to defeat and destroy ISIS.”
Why hasn’t Obama thought of this?
Lola you’ve opened your mind so much your brains fell out.
lol@lola
A 30-day war plan is going to be one rushed, half-assed plan that gets a lot of people killed.
Potomac, MD Housing Prices Tank 6% YoY
http://www.movoto.com/potomac-md/market-trends/
‘The Houston-based oil exploration company Apache has made a significant discovery in West Texas’s Permian Basin, estimated at 75 trillion cubic feet of natural gas and more than 3 billion barrels of oil — nearly the equivalent of an entire year of U.S. crude production, the company announced on Wednesday.’
‘The new field sits in the southern portion of the Delaware Basin, the Permian’s western and southern half. It is primarily in Reeves County, south of New Mexico, near the Davis Mountains. Apache is calling the field the “Alpine High
‘Apache also said its oil estimates are for the deep Barnett and Woodford formations alone. It expects there is also “significant” oil potential in the shallower Pennsylvanian, Bone Springs and Wolfcamp formations.’
Oh great. Cheap gas = more RVs with Texas license plates driving 15mph under the speed limit on Colorado’s mountain roads.
‘In the world’s biggest ship-recycling yard, dozens of men toil under a blazing sun, carving up the remaining portion of a vessel on the seashore. During the nearly five months it has taken for the ship they are working on to arrive at the yard and get broken apart for scrap, the price of the steel the yard is culling has skyrocketed, then plummeted—dragged along by roller-coaster trading thousands of miles away in China.’
‘The yard owners of Alang, where half of the world’s ships are recycled, say they are shocked by the volatility—the like of which they hadn’t seen since the global financial crisis in 2008. Many of the yards here, in the western Indian state of Gujarat, are saddled with losses from buying near-record numbers of boats when steel prices were surging earlier this year, then selling the scrap metal after prices had crashed.’
“From last December onwards, we saw prices improving suddenly, so all of us purchased ships,” says Ramesh Aggarwal, yard owner at Alang’s Hooghly Ship Breakers Ltd. “Now all of us are facing a similar situation because of the fall in prices. Our profits have been wiped out.”
‘Late last year, Shanghai’s futures markets started heating up. Opportunistic Chinese traders saw low steel prices as a buying opportunity, and poured millions of dollars into futures contracts for steel rebar, a reinforcing rod used in construction, and iron-ore, a steelmaking component. Prices of steel rebar shot up by more than 50% in the first four months of 2016.’
‘In Alang, shipyards whose businesses had slowed during the steel-price slump of the past few years rushed to buy boats, spending millions of dollars per vessel. During the first six months of this year, 185 vessels arrived at Alang’s yards — nearly equal to the 196 for all of last year. Workers started pouring into Alang from surrounding villages, drawn by the extra jobs.’
‘The boom was short-lived. Chinese regulators, fearing a speculative bubble in commodities prices, raised the amount investors must deposit to trade iron ore and steel rebar. Prices on Chinese exchanges began tumbling in late April and collapsed in May, falling nearly as low as they were at the start of the year.’
‘One yard owner, who asked to remain unnamed, said he bought a ship in January for around $280 per ton, including the cost of labor. He ended up selling the scrap metal at a loss, for $250-$260 per ton, when the ship was being broken up in April and May.
“You can say we are caught in a casino-like situation,” said Mr. Aggarwal, who is also the secretary of the Ship Recycling Industries Association (India).’
wall st needs to get in on the action, they need to get together and form a cartel, then pay only $100 a ton.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/construction-worker-shortage-weighs-on-hot-us-housing-market/ar-AAixWgL
Interesting article on the state of construction labor.
That is interesting RW.
You know what happens in those situations? Employers are forced to start hiring from the bottom of the barrel. “C”-grade and “D”-grade people, because all the good people are taken. I’ve seen it happen in tech companies a few times. “Fog a mirror”, get hired.
Then you’ll end up with beer cans inside the walls and shoddy construction.
In an ideal world there would be a discount for shoddily built houses.
Or like this guy, from the article:
“”I’ve got two lawsuits right now where it may cost us mid-six-figures because there’s not enough labor out there to get it done,” said one contractor in the North Dallas area who declined to be identified.”
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If you’re having to fend off lawsuits because you can’t finish projects fast enough…
“shortcuts” will be taken. No doubt about it.
Lots of “we are hiring” signs all over the place in the service and trades sectors. Looks like wages need to move up.
Do you really believe wages will triple or quadruple to meet grossly inflated prices?
Of course not.
Prices will continue falling to dramatically lower and more affordable levels commensurate with wages.
Labor Force Participation Rate Plummets To 38 Year Low; Joblessness At Record High
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000
Rolling Stones - Under My Thumb (live at Altamont, 1969):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShLJnqMg__s
Meredith Hunter gets stabbed to death by the Hells Angels in this video.
Go to 1:48 in the vid and look at the Hells Angel losing his sh*t and pulling his hair out. I went to high school with alot of people like that.
And they’re all dead now.
“NYC Luxury Real Estate Weakness Spreading As Lower Pricing Tiers Tank”
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-07/nyc-real-estate-weakness-spreading-lower-pricing-tiers
David Bowie at the Santa Monica Civic Auditorium 1972:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-F-nqBDJO8
I read a biography of him recently that said he always travelled with a library of 600+ books anywhere he went on tour.
Go to 56:30 and ignore the rest of it.
This is about as real as it gets…
Alladin Sane — Full LP:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1ULG7HGTtc
What does an LP mean to you?
20-25 minutes on a side. I just picked up a book about Otis Redding and Stax Records at the Denver Public Library
Manhattan’s luxury housing market slowing down.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-07/nyc-real-estate-weakness-spreading-lower-pricing-tiers
I’m sure this is nothing.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-07/italy-funding-panic-target2-liabilities-unexpectedly-soar-record-high
Commercial bankrupcies are soaring in our Obama-Fed-Goldman Sachs “recovery.”
http://wolfstreet.com/2016/09/07/u-s-commercial-bankruptcies-soar-great-debt-unwind-beneath-surface/
Citizens! The Comrades of Proven Worth demand you cease any and all efforts aimed at self-sufficiency and mutual aid! The DNC cannot impose its collectivist kleptocracy unless/until all the proles have been reduced to a state of dependence on Democrat patronage, graft, and entitlements. Forward!
http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/louisiana-officials-demand-that-self-reliant-locals-stop-surviving-the-flood-without-permission_09072016
If you speak truth to power or point out the obvious lies, distortions, and omissions in The Narrative, you are a troll.
http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/computers/item/24003-to-battle-trolls-establishment-wages-war-on-internet-freedom?tmpl=component&print=1
Here’s one from my neck of the woods. Local Eugene property manager stole a bunch of rent money due to the owners, funding lavish lifestyle. Then, he also took loans from people he met at Bible study class, and stiffed them too. Heh.
http://registerguard.com/rg/news/local/34770785-75/eugene-businessman-terry-shockley-sentenced-to-more-than-four-years-in-federal-prison-for-wire-fraud.html.csp
When the slashers get tired of slashing and decide to rent it out instead, because they don’t actually want to do the *work* involved in being a landlord, they just hand it right over to the wolves.
That guy was “managing” over 350 properties. Managing his checkbook pretty well I’d say.
Slash slash and slash some more. It’s the only path forward.
One for a chuckle today. The bread basket building in Ohio. Anyone live around there? I had to do a double-take, like, is that for real?
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-09-07/selling-a-5-million-seven-story-basket-is-no-picnic
“The basket was built for about $32 million and finished in 1997″
“Now it’s on the market for $5 million, or about $28 a square foot, about half of what traditionally shaped office buildings in the area usually sell for”
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What is today’s equivalent of $32 million in 1997? Something like $100 million? Now they’re trying to dump it for $5.
Well, maybe if they cut off the handles on top, it wouldn’t look quite as weird.