We Are Sinking Fast
The Age reports from Australia. “All across Melbourne, new apartments riddled with faults have been sold to investors and residents. Some of the problems are so costly to fix that it would be cheaper to build the apartments again. Often these cases play out behind closed doors or, quietly, in the courts. After all, who wants to tell the world that they’ve bought a disaster? Strata Community Australia (which represents Victoria’s body corporate managers) is aware of at least 58 apartment buildings in Melbourne with defects, valued at a total of about $49 million. ‘That’s just the tip of the iceberg,’ the group’s Victorian general manager, Rob Beck, said. ‘It is rare for buildings to be defect-free.’”
“Consider the case of Amanda Frazer, a first-home buyer who bought in Ormond off the plan in 2012. When she went to inspect her two-bedroom home, she discovered something different to what she had signed up for. The developer had squeezed another unit into the building and significantly reduced the size of her property’s balcony. She called the council. The council inspected the building and declared it illegal; because of the extra apartment jammed in, the complex no longer complied with the planning permit.”
“Ms Frazer received no compensation from the developer and there was little point pursuing him for the lost value in her home and repairs (estimated to be up to $100,000) as his businesses went into administration. This is not unusual. Ms Frazer said an inspector found further breaches in the building code: the floors weren’t level, the stairs were too steep and the ceilings too low. ‘It was a shoddy finish. You could see the lack of care,’ she said.”
From News.com.au. “It made headlines as Melbourne’s ‘tallest, skinniest skyscraper,’ but media buzz around 54 Clarke St in apartment-flooded Southbank wasn’t enough to save the developers from the rapidly turning property market. Like many others, the original private syndicate of developers behind 54 Clarke St were forced to walk away. The ‘Elysium’ site went under the hammer earlier this month. As pre-sales drop and banks tighten lending for developers, a growing number of ‘mum-and-dad’ apartment builders are being forced to abandon construction, experts have warned — sparking fears of a domino effect.”
“The trend is noteworthy because it appears to gel with a scenario floated by investment firm CLSA earlier this month of a looming apartment ‘crisis.’ The broker predicted that a wave of defaults would force smaller developers into receivership, pushing down prices and potentially causing wider contagion that could lead to a recession. Meriton founder Harry Triguboff, Australia’s richest man, has also sounded increasingly urgent warnings, telling news.com.au recently that a ‘very significant’ number of Chinese buyers were walking away from apartment purchases.”
“Last week, Mr Triguboff told The Australian he would not be able to get 50 deposits on a new project, compared with 105 in the previous month. ‘We are sinking fast,’ he said.”
“Albert Callegher from ACM Finance, a specialist ‘last-mile’ finance broker that provides top-up funding for property developers, said CLSA’s prediction was already coming true. ‘The small to medium developers doing projects between $2 million and $20 million, they’re going broke,’ he said. ‘I’ve had one client say to me he’s got one developer with over 2000 apartments that can’t settle. We’re hearing it everywhere but it’s not making the news, because you don’t want an avalanche.’”
“He warned Melbourne may be facing another 2004-style Docklands-style property bubble. ‘The developers simply sold the water view and position as the most fantastic, New York-inspired development in the universe,’ he said. ‘As a result, poor investors paid 25 per cent above market, the market corrected itself, and as a result a lot lost their homes through unscrupulous pricing structures. What’s happening now is the same as the Docklands. The last three years it’s been exuberant buying.’”
From ABC News. “Darwin locals trying to sell their properties are feeling the pinch of a depressed housing market as the volume of sales reaches an all-time low. Some have been forced to leave the market altogether. Glenn Chandler’s tropical, open-plan house in Darwin’s northern suburbs has been on the market for more than a year and has had just six enquiries. ‘When we moved in it was only a couple of years before Cyclone Carlos knocked it over entirely, so we had to build it from scratch … and that was a good four-and-a-half years ago,’ he said. ‘It’s been on the market for a good year, year-and-a-half, but not actively. I’ve been told that in a depressed market that’s what you expect.’”
“Anne Clifford has lived in Darwin for more than 40 years and has just taken her inner-city Darwin apartment, in Larrakeyah, off the market. ‘My apartment’s been on the market on and off for the last two-and-a-half years, I had it with an agent for three months and didn’t get much interest at all,’ she said. ‘Certainly didn’t get any offers that I liked so I just decided it wasn’t worth just throwing it away because the prices have dropped $50,000 to $100,000 in the last three years I think. In 2010, it was actually valued by a proper valuer for $620,000 and we had it on the market for $550,000 this time.’”
“Ms Clifford said she would wait for the market to improve. ‘I’m not going to rush into selling it because I just don’t think the market’s right, but I’ve been in Darwin 40 years and there’s a lot of ups and downs and I know Darwin will pick up and it will get better.’”
‘Ms Frazer received no compensation from the developer and there was little point pursuing him for the lost value in her home and repairs (estimated to be up to $100,000) as his businesses went into administration. ‘‘It was a shoddy finish. You could see the lack of care,’ she said.’
Moral of the story: Never buy ‘off plan.’
Better yet: Never buy, unless you are a knowledgeable, deep-pocketed real estate investor gambling with other people’s money.
I always think of one of my all time favorite albums by U2. - Joshua Tree when I see your images here. Bought it off the rack. And I lived in the Mojave desert in those days. It was in a very social conservative area. U2 was my anchor.
Thanks for sharing, Bill.
I was in college when the album came out, and that, and R.E.M. stuff, was the most popular music going. One of my more vivid memories is coming back from Spring Break in Florida with friends, driving all night, and listening to “With or Without You” and “Where the Streets Have No Name” as dawn broke.
For me it was the Doors.
Oh yes, R.E.M. I had that album (on cassette) that had Orange Crush on it. Those were days when leftists were still anti war.
You’ll need a taller Joshua tree to reach the FB’s in San Francisco Millennium Tower. Something like 68 stories: sinking and tilting. Can you imagine trying to sell your $1,000,000 pad in that building today?
Aren’t skyscrapers supposed to be built on bedrock? This one it seems was built on dumping grounds in the bay.
An apt metaphor for the entire housing bubble: foundations of sand. The Fed and its insane Keynesian monetary policies are once again guilty of blowing unsustainable asset bubbles and promoting reckless malinvestment.
Darwin,got it
A plopper of a dropper
‘As many predicted some time ago, the newly created investment market, where we have seen approvals for high-rise apartmen’ts hit levels never seen before, will now see a massive correction.
‘In December 2008, the rules for off-the-plan apartments had a significant change when the ratio for foreign investors was moved from 50 per cent to 100 per cent. Developers could not believe their luck, as this decision created new rivers of gold, albeit an eight year run.’
‘Also read: Foreign buyers forced to sell properties’
‘The governments then got involved by increasing stamp duty for foreign buyers, the Chinese government shut down the facilities permitting vast amounts of monies to be withdrawn from China and the major Australian banks stopped lending to foreign buyers. When combined, this has created the perfect property storm although the gamble of relying on foreign buyers acquiring the majority of these new apartments was always fraught with danger.’
‘What we will see in 2017 is thousands and thousands of apartments off-the-plan coming back onto the market and the big question that remains unanswered is; what will be the percentage drop from the original contract prices? It has already been mentioned that analysis of every new development in Australia that settlement defaults will be between $1 billion and $1.5 billion every month over the next twelve month window.’
‘The small to medium developers doing projects between $2 million and $20 million, they’re going broke,’ he said. ‘I’ve had one client say to me he’s got one developer with over 2000 apartments that can’t settle. We’re hearing it everywhere but it’s not making the news, because you don’t want an avalanche.’
It’s interesting to me that posters will bicker about who called a bubble in what year, while this thing is caving in right now.
The denial of said caving is nothing short of staggering.
The galactic sense of entitlement of these FBs is going to give way to a dawning recognition that they are screwed, blued and tatoooed.
sense of entitlement
You could lay off half of the currently “employed” DoD civilian employees and government contractors, and nobody would even notice.
Enjoy the “debate” and pretend your children and this country have a future.
“This sucker could go down” — George W. Bush
12 fed housing agencies
18 for aca
2000 agencies+ in all
know one knows
I would love to see Trump take off the gloves against the Keynesian fraudsters at the Fed and their financial warfare against the 99%.
https://www.ft.com/content/309aecce-835e-11e6-8897-2359a58ac7a5
Do you think Trump would fire Janet Yellen?
Hope n’ change comes to our Democrat-maladministered urban cesspools.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/09/25/left-leaning-think-tank-projects-31-5-percent-increase-in-murders-from-2014-to-2016-buries-finding/
I am shocked, shocked! that Republicrat John Boehner would sell out for thirty pieces of silver to prostitute himself as a lobbyist for Chinese interests.
https://theintercept.com/2016/09/20/john-boehner-china/
Neocons gotta neocon.
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2016/09/todenhöfer-interview-with-al-nusra-commander-the-americans-stand-on-our-side.html#more
From News.com.au. “It made headlines as Melbourne’s ‘tallest, skinniest skyscraper,’ but media buzz around 54 Clarke St [snip] — sparking fears of a domino effect.”
Hmmm. I know that thinking about dominoes falling over is what I want to think about when living in the “tallest, skinniest, skyscraper”.
Posting via Firefox….or Chrome?
That was posted via Firefox. Just starting to set up Chrome. This is on FF too.
DT hitting home runs. Very impressive. Very very impressive.
Heating up!
I’ve been working on a jobsite with alot of people who don’t speak English lately. I communicate with the forklift driver via hand signals.
It wasn’t like this when I grew up in the Midwest back in the day, but they are alot nicer despite the language barrier than many of the @ssholes I’ve worked with in the “professional” world.
Maybe there is no solution to this, just give up…
DT Quote: “a big, fat, ugly bubble”
LOLZ
He’s being too nice to her.
Trump explicitly tied the Fed, Yellen the Felon, and ZIRP to the stock market and other asset bubbles.
Oh, now Hillary is talking about THOUSANDS of businesspeople who were stiffed by Trump.
OK, I can see a few, but thousands?
Hillary held her own. I’ll give her that. Donald made a lot of good points, but came off too often as a douche.
Oh snap… I completely forgot to watch the debate!
On the replay, Frump looked frumpy and grumpy.
He did, but frumpy and grumpy is the justified mood of much of the country. Clinton spent much of the debate with a patronizing smile on her face, which couldn’t have helped.
There were several junctures where I could not believe that this buffoon is about to become President. But it’s poor leaders like Clinton who helped give us Trump. I still walked away convinced that I am not voting for either of them.
And I do give Trump credit for mentioning that we are in an economic bubble, and criticizing the Fed. Clinton stuck with the “we’re on the cusp of broad prosperity” meme.
I wouldn’t put much stock in the media’s declared winner. They have an agenda and a candidate they favor.
LOL! She’s called for criminal justice reform! And boy, she got it with Comey and Lynch.
“Super predator”
ZING
Oh yeah, and make sure your mom votes for me, despite that I desribed you as an animal.
“The African American community has been so badly treated … and they are very concerned with what their politicians have told them”
Ever spent any time in Cleveland? In Akron? Yeah I thought not.
Got NAFTA?
90% of guns used by minorities are illegal…so why has ohbahhma concentrated on guns show where they never go ????
Hillary going after russia now as the source of the hacks of her illegally stored classified emails. Trump should call her Secretary Chutzpah.
DT blasted the Fed and Janet Yellen. You will NEVER hear that from Crooked Hillary.
Hard to watch.
Of course I say that and then Hillary starts talking about pigs, slobs and dogs.
The first broadcast TeeVee I’ve watched in a long time.
Now back to my stack of library books, they’re free to read btw…
i watched on youtube with 125,000 others
Well, that was kinda….weird.
Not quite a sweaty Nixon 1960 moment, but my dad is still voting for The Donald. As will an electoral majority in Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and possibly New York.
“This sucker could go down” — George W. Bush
NO ONE wants to see that battle axe every night for the next 4 years. Game set match.
Has anyone ordered a
I WAS
DEPLORABLE
BEFORE IT WAS COOL
T shirt yet?
the gloves are off political correctness will be dead soon, and maybe the press will act like the british and really go after the politicians…
but his points are right why did we take on all this debt and they keep the oil?
what did we get for $8 trillion in new debt…new road bridges airports high speed rail……
‘Anne Clifford has taken her inner-city Darwin apartment off the market. ‘Certainly didn’t get any offers that I liked so I just decided it wasn’t worth just throwing it away because the prices have dropped $50,000 to $100,000 in the last three years I think. In 2010, it was actually valued by a proper valuer for $620,000 and we had it on the market for $550,000 this time.’
‘Ms Clifford said she would wait for the market to improve. ‘I’m not going to rush into selling it because I just don’t think the market’s right’
You’ll be walking away with nothing but debt Anne.
inner-city Darwin
“Darwin is the capital city of the Northern Territory, Australia. Situated on the Timor Sea, Darwin is the largest city in the sparsely populated Northern Territory, with a population of 136,245.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin,_Northern_Territory
Everyone wants to live there.
Because they give out awards?
Back when I visited Australia in the late 1990s, I read a statistic that Darwin led the country in per capita beer consumption, which in Australia is quite a feat.
No new info in the debate
Donald missed a lot
Of opportunities
Zazzzzzzz
donald was sizing her up for the kill on debate #2 and 3 thats when bengazi her health bubbas and weiners sexcapades will emerge
no sense using you aces right now
I didn’t care about Bubba’s sex life 20 years ago, why should I care now, or let it affect my vote?
Not to mention, Trump has no right to criticize anyone else’s morals.
There’s a MSM shot of Hillary beaming and Trump looking dazed-n-confused. Easy to glean target audience sophistication level… roughly the same who followed the Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker trilogy.
So is there a country or even a city w a perky re market?
Home Economy & Politics Economic Report
City-by-city look as house price gains slow
By Andrea Riquier
Published: Sept 27, 2016 9:00 a.m. ET
Has the San Francisco bubble popped?
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Did Trump’s allergies to Hillary give him a bad case of the sniffles?
It was the stench of her saturated Depends.
Meanwhile, the next Lehman moment approaches.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-27/deutsche-bank-stock-crashes-near-single-digits-cds-spike-record-highs
buy moar stawks cause hilary will demand more money printing!
Yellen is in the bag for Hillary, and both are in the bag for Goldman Sachs.
Goldman sure spreads it around. Hillary’s payola from them this year is $200,000.
https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=d000000085
“Goldman sure spreads it around.”
They’d still be serving prison sentences if they didn’t.
Who could have ever imagined the meltdown of peer-to-peer lending schemes?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-26/p2p-meltdown-continues-loandepots-cdo-trips-cumulative-loss-covenants-just-10-months
Bubble markets are looking shaky.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/09/26/uk-mortgage-approvals-drop-to-19-month-low-in-august/
Got popcorn?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/09/26/the-deutsche-bank-crisis-could-take-angela-merkel-down–and-the/
US home price growth slowest in a year, even with the Fed’s debasement of the currency.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-27/us-home-price-growth-slowest-year
Got gold?
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/investing-in-gold-is-the-best-speculative-bet-there-is-today-2016-09-26
I made $17,000 long term gain in my gold mining ETFs this year (held two years). Not sure if I will buy any of those shares back in 2017, but will buy more Yamana in January.
political correctness IS DEAD……trump blew open the barn doors and it will never be the same again
political correctness IS DEAD ??
Its only dead with a certain segment of our society…A segment that is shrinking each election cycle…
So many Ponzi schemes and asset bubbles waiting to implode….
http://wolfstreet.com/2016/09/26/the-real-reason-oil-gas-companies-are-going-bankrupt-financing-fracking-projects-has-become-a-ponzi-scheme/
Remain calm. All is well.
http://wolfstreet.com/2016/09/26/deutsche-bank-in-free-fall-shares-coco-bonds-plunge-merkel-gives-cold-shoulder-on-bailout-bank-denies-everything/
Gold is the best money of all. And nothing comes close….oh reminds me, my gold buying time is approaching fast. I won’t bother timing it to the election results, as I’ve been buying nearly every year since 2001.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2013/11/12/why-gold-is-the-best-money-of-them-all-and-nothing-comes-close/#86f3d615c204
http://www.businessinsider.com/my-husband-and-i-are-millionaires-heres-why-we-have-no-plans-to-buy-a-home-2016-9
Thanks for that link.
I love that article so much. Wish that Chinese woman was not married. She’s smart as a whip.