October 19, 2016

It Looks Like Nobody’s Home, Because They Aren’t

A report from Biznow on Washington, DC. “Multifamily developers across the country have being trying to outdo each other with greater amenities in what has become a full-out arms race to attract tenants. But Kettler CEO Bob Kettler (founder of DC’s largest multifamily firm, in terms of units under construction) says the next big shift is developers being more selective about their amenity offerings. ‘They’ve put in every conceivable amenity,’ Bob says. ‘We went out and have tried to buy properties where we see people that overshot and over-programmed their amenities,’ Bob says, such as fitness facilities, dog parks and rooftop courtyards. But he warns about other amenities that can take up valuable square footage and are relatively underutilized. ‘The issue with these areas is that they are not generating revenue.’”

“With DC apartment rents already sky-high, Bob says adding amenities that force developers to raise rents can price more people out of the market than they attract to the building. ‘If you look at where Class-A rents are coming out when you look at new projects, only a small percentage of the population in this market can afford those,’ Bob says. ‘That’s one of the reasons we have sort of transitioned into repurposing buildings and looking at other marketplaces in states people are moving because they can’t afford to live in DC.’”

From Bloomberg on New York. “Manhattan rents decreased in September, marking only the second time since February 2014 that median rents for the borough fell from a year earlier. That’s great if you’re single and earning $100,000 a year, or part of a household that spends $100,000 a year on rent. The same trend has played out in San Francisco, where landlords targeting the top of the market have reported that rents are softening. In Atlanta, Boston, Los Angeles, among other cities, high-end neighborhoods have proven the most likely to see rent-growth slow.”

“The theory goes that adding new units at the top of the market should eventually translate to lower rents for older apartments. ‘If the market is like a layer cake and the top is melting, does it melt from layer to layer?’ said Jonathan Miller, Miller Samuel’s CEO. ‘My answer is eventually, but it will be slower than it would have been, because there’s such a big space between the luxury product and the rest of the market.’”

The Palm Beach Post in Florida. “Developer Nader Salour is thinking about taking a break from building more apartments in West Palm Beach. Salour said he’s iffy about the economy’s fortunes in the near future, after several years of growth. ‘We’re certainly due for some sort of pullback,’ Salour said. ‘How big a pullback is it going to be?’”

“Salour isn’t alone in hesitating to bring more more luxury apartments to the downtown. Billionaire investor Jeff Greene is, too. The hesitancy is no surprise to longtime market experts. ‘The temperament has changed to wait and see a little,’ said Peter Reed, managing principal of Commercial Florida Realty Services in Boca Raton. Reed said the region and the nation are at the end of an extended up cycle. Apartments have outperformed other types of commercial real estate, but the good times can’t last forever.”

The Denver Post in Colorado. “Average metro Denver apartment rents declined last quarter for the first time since 2013, according to the Denver Metro Area Apartment Vacancy and Rent Report. Rents rarely drop during the third quarter — it’s happened only four times in the last 29 years, most recently in 2007, when the average decreased a little more than $5, said Apartment Association of Metro Denver spokesman Christopher Dean. In the third quarter, average rents decreased to $1,368 per month — kept artificially high by a surge of luxury apartment construction.”

“The slight decline in average rents is attributed to the delivery of thousands of new apartments to the market this year, a pace that is expected to continue through 2018, when the majority of projects in the pipeline wrap up. ‘We’ve seen more apartment units built in the last three years than in the 11 years prior to that combined,’ said Mark Williams, executive vice president of the Apartment Association of Metro Denver.”

The Bay Area Newsgroup on California. “At long last, the Bay Area rental market is cooling. That’s the takeaway from a new report by Novato-based RealFacts showing that third-quarter rents for the nine-county region have barely budged — they’re up 1 percent from a year ago — and in some cities have even fallen. ‘I can almost feel a change in the air,’ said Ron Stern, CEO of Bay Rentals, a housing relocation service. Landlords are more willing to chip a couple of hundred bucks off the monthly rent to fill a vacant unit, he said, predicting that ‘rents are going to go down even more next year.’”

“‘Instead of renters being at such a disadvantage and having little choice and having to take whatever landlords said they wanted,’ said Sarah Bridge of RealFacts. She attributed the change to the thousands of newly constructed units that have come online around the region, opening up ‘more choice’ for renters and tipping the supply-demand ratio in their direction.”

City Pages on Minnesota. “Lake Street in Minneapolis is hopping with activity on a mild Monday morning, as the city wakes up and starts heading back to work. Yet few lights are on inside the Lake Residences, the uber-pricey new high rise on the north end of Lake Calhoun, where monthly rents in excess of $6,000 aren’t uncommon. It looks like nobody’s home. That’s because they aren’t. According to the building’s website, only 11 of its 90 units have been rented thus far.”

“Sam Radbil of the rental website Adobo isn’t willing to say the tepid response to the Lakes means the Twin Cities hit its rental price ceiling. Though the building’s rents do come as a sticker shock to Radbil, he believes the renters will come, eventually. ‘Whether it’s Minneapolis or Atlanta or Denver,’ says Radbil, ‘what we’ve seen in all of these markets is there’s an unmet luxury market. Now, I don’t know if the market will react quickly in Minneapolis to fill that building. But I’ve got to think the developers didn’t build it without first doing the research that shows there is a market.’”

The Houston Chronicle in Texas. “Houston developers are expected to build 27,600 apartments this year, a historical high and one that’s coming at a time of slumping demand for rentals, a new report shows. ‘The apartment market for the next five years is going to look like the office market did in the ’80s,’ said Patrick Jankowski, an economist at the Greater Houston Partnership said recently.”

“He noted downtown specifically. Thousands of units are under way in that market, exacerbating concerns about a multifamily glut. Plus, two major sources of tenants — Exxon Mobil and Shell — have left or will soon leave downtown. ‘People just haven’t appreciated the potential for how bad things can be in the luxury market,’ Jankowski said.”




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Comment by Ben Jones
2016-10-19 08:43:44

‘Whether it’s Minneapolis or Atlanta or Denver,’ says Radbil, ‘what we’ve seen in all of these markets is there’s an unmet luxury market. Now, I don’t know if the market will react quickly in Minneapolis to fill that building. But I’ve got to think the developers didn’t build it without first doing the research that shows there is a market.’

Sam, you might want to sit down. The developers had money shoved in their faces from pension funds, life insurance companies and Mel Watt. As land prices went to the moon, luxury was the only thing that penciled out. More amenities, anything to justify ridiculous rents. In short, no they didn’t do any research. They stood around at these multifamily cocktail parties and ginned up a story that they all repeated. Even to this day, half of them are still telling the story. Read these articles and you’ll see why we are building hundreds of thousands of luxury apartments when we already have a glut.

Comment by Ethan in Northern VA
2016-10-19 10:14:20

Can simply swap apartments to condos and sell them for stupid money, like they did the last time.

 
Comment by Apartment 401
2016-10-19 16:29:00
 
 
Comment by Ben Jones
2016-10-19 08:46:44

‘The apartment market for the next five years is going to look like the office market did in the ’80s’

For the boys and girls reading here that don’t know about this time, it was as grim as it gets. Somewhere right now, an older man or woman is paging through a travel brochure, dreaming of walking in the sand and dining at sidewalk cafes. Little do they know they’ll be wearing a “Welcome to WalMart” vest instead.

Comment by dandroidz
2016-10-19 09:20:25

And isn’t the commericial RE market heading in the same direction? Huge bubble waiting to pop. Only so many craft beer bars can squeeze into former office spaces…

Comment by Rental Watch
2016-10-19 10:04:18

You need to differentiate between different property types.

I don’t “get” office…it’s my least favorite property type. There are more employees being crammed into less space, effectively increasing the supply of office for the same amount of work.
Retail is challenged–every time Amazon sells more, bricks and mortar retail suffers.
Industrial/warehouse/distribution is may favorite. It benefits from the move to the internet (distribution requires more space for the same number of products than warehouse–packaging takes space), and industrial generally is much more “core” to the economy than a software company that is making a $1 app to track your coffee mugs.

Comment by Jingle Male
2016-10-20 00:58:56

I went to a conference about 18 months ago. The last speaker was the director for federal government office space in CA, OR, & WA.. Her goal: reduce their office space use from 58,000,000 SF to 34,000,000.

Huge reduction goal!

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Comment by rms
2016-10-20 07:08:50

I’ve noticed a marked increase in female hiring and teleworking at the federal offices that I frequent.

 
 
 
 
Comment by tangouniform
2016-10-19 20:14:26

What’s funny about all this is that, at least along Wilshire in Koreatown in Los Santos we’re seeing office buildings being converted to high-rent apartments.

 
 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2016-10-19 08:47:44

Meanwhile, housing starts have crashed the most in five years.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-19/housing-starts-crash-most-5-years-18-month-lows

Comment by Ben Jones
2016-10-19 08:52:01

‘September housing starts came in 9 percent below August and 12 percent below September 2015, according to the U.S. Census, but those big drops belie a huge improvement for the market, at least in this monthly read. Those numbers are totals, based on both single-family homes, which are desperately needed, and multifamily apartments, which have seen a construction boom over the last three years.’

‘The drop in housing starts was driven entirely by a big swing lower in multifamily construction. That may be a one-month phenomenon, because numbers on multifamily can be swayed dramatically by just a few large-scale apartment developments.’

“Bottom line, the bizarre plunge in multifamily starts is inexplicable but the rise in permits says it was an outlier,” said Peter Boockvar, chief market analyst with the Lindsey Group.’

‘Whatever the case, the apartment market is starting to cool slightly, as thousands of brand new, albeit mostly luxury, units come on line and occupancies start to level off from their climb to historic highs. Construction reached a cyclical high last year and is only moderating slightly this year.’

‘Single-family home construction, which is what the housing market desperately needs, rose 8 percent for the month and 5 percent from a year ago. That is a positive for a sector that has been wildly conservative following the worst crash in history.’

 
Comment by Rental Watch
2016-10-19 08:52:05

Multi-family starts way down, single family up, overall down to an annual pace (for this month) of less than 1.1MM homes across the country.

Comment by Ben Jones
2016-10-19 08:56:15

I can name multiple cities that have tens of thousands of apartments on the way. You can’t really stop building them. The return is then zero and they’ll rot. Of course, they did just that in Texas in the 80’s. But that couldn’t happen again, because every major bank and S&L failed.

Comment by scdave
2016-10-19 09:20:51

The bay area is around zero for more apartments coming…I do disagree that they’ll rot..The players involved with these big project are Billionaires…And, they quality of construction is very high…Will there be overbuilding and a spike in Vacancy rates…Yep…But, these big boys will cut their rates or more likely incentivize the new tenant along with existing tenants…They have the deep pockets to take rates of return to zero…The thing to keep a eye on is anybody who bought into the B & C apartment market at historical premiums…They could be in for some serious vacancy and downside rents…

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Comment by LOL@Narratives
2016-10-19 09:25:41

There are no deep pockets. It’s all borrowed money and it’s drying up fast.

 
Comment by Rental Watch
2016-10-19 09:49:10

SC Dave, are you talking about Don Bren (Irvine Company)? He’s a pretty debt averse guy, and happy to live with low yields for a time.

I also agree that these apartments won’t rot.

Remember, we haven’t even breached 1.2MM homes being built nationally. We may have built too many luxury units at once (SF, NYC), and too many homes in certain markets (Houston), but we haven’t built too many overall.

A WSJ article just yesterday cited 400,000 jobs added in the Bay Area from 2008-2015, and permits issued for 86,000 new housing units over that same timeframe.

There will be a time where the digestion of too many luxury units will be painful, and I expect that the financial results will not be what was expected by the investors, but regardless of whether the projects are going to be financial disasters, or successes, the projects will be completed (because that’s the ONLY way for lenders or investors to get anything out), and they will be occupied.

They are not going to sit vacant and rot.

 
Comment by scdave
2016-10-19 10:12:17

Yes…Bren is likely the biggest dog but there are many others smaller Billionaires…George Marcus for example…And unlike the idiot HA statement about it all being borrowed money, Irvine Cos. does every deal all cash..Hard for a basement dweller to understand that..

And speaking of HA, what kind of “sick” individual responds to every post I make regardless of content…Creepy…

 
Comment by SW
2016-10-19 10:17:57

What if half of those jobs go away if the unicorn tech companies disappear?

 
Comment by scdave
2016-10-19 10:20:51

The other half that remain will be renting high amenity apartments for 1/2 the price or less…

 
Comment by jerzdebil
2016-10-19 10:33:03

Premise Data Corporation, with Larry Summers on the board of directors, can suck up any office space left empty by dying tech unicorns. I hear they’ll be expanding in a few weeks, to cover the entire west coast:

https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiLeaks/comments/587lbg/i_have_been_looking_into_the_san_fransisco/

 
Comment by scdave
2016-10-19 11:55:01

Sabrato in the Bay Area is “notorious” for building high rise office & R & D space without a committed tenant and letting it sit for many years…They really don’t care about the short term…For them, its all about continuing to acquire and hold…

Perry Arrellaga is another one…And there is many more…

 
Comment by Rental Watch
2016-10-19 12:27:13

Arrillaga was the guy behind Stanford’s “inbetween seasons” stadium renovation, which is amazing when you look at how long it takes other places to renovate stadiums. He is one hard charging dude, also completely OK keeping properties vacant if he can’t find the right tenant.

As I understand it, he and his partner, Dick Peery purchased their first building with a 50% loan decades ago, didn’t like the feeling of having debt, paid off the loan, and haven’t borrowed since.

 
Comment by Blue Skye
2016-10-19 14:41:59

“and haven’t borrowed since”

Yet a major credit contraction will crater the value of their vanity projects. When that happens, the investor can continue to bleed money or cut their losses. Emotion vs. logic.

 
 
Comment by BearCat
2016-10-19 15:01:40

Rental Watch,

Note you said “400K jobs added since 2008″ — SFBA employment only recently passed employment level reached back before the dot-bomb crash — so, no, the employment scene isn’t that great, unless you’re working for startup with an ocean of VC money, or are willing to work retail for $11/hour (I’ve seen lots of retail help wanted signs).

Now I’d agree it’s true that there hasn’t been enough normal housing built in Silly-con valley - that’s been true for a long time, unfortunately. But there’s been more lately, including outside of SF, than there has been in a along time.

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Comment by Ben Jones
2016-10-19 15:59:35

This blindness is why these guys overbuild again and again. The SF Chronicle recently reported a condo tower cutting prices 8%. Recent customers, sorry! All bubbles are built on a bit of truth. For the bay area, it was built on a dotcom bubble.

 
Comment by Rental Watch
2016-10-19 16:08:07

Bearcat,

Peak Dotcom employment was approximately 2.25MM people. The SF Bay Area exceeded that number again in late 2012, and has since added approximately 200,000 jobs.

The main issue is that there has been a housing deficit for years in the SFBA that measures in numbers far more than the homes built since the dotcom bubble.

“tens of thousands” of units in the pipeline seems like a lot, until you put them in the perspective of a market that has too little housing currently, and is adding jobs at a pace of ~50k per year.

And yes, there are good jobs, and crummy jobs in every market, but the inflation-adjusted median household income for SF is up ~15% over the prior 3 years. It’s hard to conclude that all jobs are bad…by this data, more new jobs are good than bad.

 
Comment by Rental Watch
2016-10-19 16:39:47

BTW, full disclosure, we think that SF Bay Area commercial property is peaking, as do many of the people we know. Lots of supply is being added, tenants are leasing more space than they need (lots of sublease space coming on the market), venture capital valuations are stretched (and so more companies are NOT going to get that next round of funding), and so on.

A friend of mine just lost his job due to the money drying up.

That said, the housing imbalance is so extreme, while I expect prices/rents to soften, I don’t expect vacancy to rise much. Lots of people have been chased from the market due to high prices and extreme lack of supply (I heard stories of people offering more than the asking rent, just to get an apartment), and will come back if they can find a place to rent.

 
Comment by LOL@Narratives
2016-10-19 17:19:42

Rising vacancy rates, record inventory, record low demand, a mortified economy, unprecedented unemployment, record debt and defaults.

That’s the reality.

 
Comment by BearCat
2016-10-19 20:30:36

Rental Watch,

Yes, we agree on a lot - BUT to say rental and housing prices won’t drop dramatically is untrue, I think. Some data points:
– Housing prices here started to drop after the dot-bomb implosion, and were only stopped by the housing bubble 1.0. Rents dropped 30% (e.g. $1400 down to $1000). At bubble peak, apartments were like 98% rented.
– Housing prices started to drop, and dropped, quite a bit after the initial bubble collapse. Again, stopped by Housing Bubble 2.0.
– I’ve already seen some price reduced signs — maybe the seller was greedy, but, a year ago it wouldn’t have mattered.
– And, with ZIRP, QE eternity, 3% downpayments, and such, what is left to juice the market?
– What happens if (when?) china takes a dump. App and cloud companies? There are definitely too many of both sorts.
– And house prices won’t level - bubble market psychology doesn’t work that way.

BTW, there’s still plenty of vacant office buildings around here, despite the ones getting turned into housing.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2016-10-19 08:48:22

How long will it take the NAR and their political puppets to shut down aps that promise to make realtors obsolete?

http://www.businessinsider.com/reali-replaces-real-estate-agents-with-an-app-2016-10

Comment by Professor Bear
2016-10-20 06:48:44

It’s a matter of time before the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau steps up and tells the NAR lobbyists to stuff it.

 
 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2016-10-19 08:58:17

It seems some of the dupes who failed to realize Bernie Sanders was the Controlled Opposition are calling him out for being a sellout and his shilling for Crooked Hillary.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/10/18/students-yell-hillary-war-monger-sellout-bernie-rally-university-new-mexico/

 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2016-10-19 09:08:08

How central bankers and their QE-to-Infinity are driving those further down the socioeconomic ladder out onto the street. Heckova job, Yellen, Carney, Draghi, et al.

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2016/09/zealand-relentless-housing-crisis-160928153415463.html

 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2016-10-19 09:11:26

Somehow I can’t see $675K in value in the speeches Screech gave to Goldman Sachs. Unless, of course, it was payola for services rendered during the Clintons’ “public service.”

http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/10/17/what-hillary-clinton-privately-told-goldman-sachs/

 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2016-10-19 09:13:18

Tacitus foresaw the rise of the neocons.

“The wealth of another region excites their greed; and if it is weak, their lust for power as well. Nothing from the rising to the setting of the sun is enough for them. Among all others only they are compelled to attack the poor as well as the rich. Robbery, rape, and slaughter they falsely call empire; and where they make a desert, they call it peace.”

Tacitus, Agricola

 
 
Comment by dandroidz
2016-10-19 09:18:59

So many people from my hometown high school have become real estate agents. What will they do when they need a real job outside of a 8 week prep course and exam?

I’m making arrangements to move back south from the Boston area very soon. I cant wait to tell my landlord I’ll pass on the rent increase…

Comment by homie
2016-10-19 11:40:06

Told my landlord to go F herself when I bought a house in the Boston inner ‘burbs recently. Rent was $2K on a shitty apt while PITI is $2800 on a detached SFH that’s twice as big and in good condition. I did okay - bought significantly below the median $/SF for my area. Sellers were dumbasses, trading a good house in order to move to the even richer town nextdoor.

Comment by Blue Skye
2016-10-19 14:46:28

Good for you. You will spend > $1million more than me on housing over the next 30 years. But hey, you have to live somewhere.

Comment by homie
2016-10-19 19:03:14

You continue to live in your fantasy. I ran the numbers. Did you? Rent inflation in any major city is going to eat your market returns. A diversified portfolio, including inflation hedges, is your best bet. Don’t like RE? Fine buy commodities and suck it when they take a dump. But I really don’t give a 5hit about your situation, so hey.

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Comment by LOL@Narratives
2016-10-19 19:21:15

And to think you could have rented for half the monthly cost while prices fall.

 
Comment by Jingle Male
2016-10-20 01:23:25

Yes, but $500/Mon goes to principal reduction. You don’t get that with rent. Plus his cost is pretty much fixed now…..no rent increased!

 
Comment by Blue Skye
2016-10-20 07:12:05

I prefer not to spend $3000/mo in exchange for a $500/mo principle reduction. His costs are as fixed as mine, and at $1million more. That’s the long math.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Ben Jones
2016-10-19 09:32:09

‘Multifamily developers across the country have being trying to outdo each other with greater amenities in what has become a full-out arms race to attract tenants. But Kettler CEO Bob Kettler (founder of DC’s largest multifamily firm, in terms of units under construction) says the next big shift is developers being more selective about their amenity offerings. ‘They’ve put in every conceivable amenity,’ Bob says. ‘We went out and have tried to buy properties where we see people that overshot and over-programmed their amenities,’ Bob says, such as fitness facilities, dog parks and rooftop courtyards. But he warns about other amenities that can take up valuable square footage and are relatively underutilized. ‘The issue with these areas is that they are not generating revenue.’

Bob, the revenue is supposed to come from the bag-holders that buy these things. That’s you. Until you recognize said bag and walk away.

Underutilized! This is the funniest article since I started following the luxury apartment bubble. No, this has to be the funniest line:

‘Whether it’s Minneapolis or Atlanta or Denver,’ says Radbil, ‘what we’ve seen in all of these markets is there’s an unmet luxury market. Now, I don’t know if the market will react quickly in Minneapolis to fill that building. But I’ve got to think the developers didn’t build it without first doing the research that shows there is a market.’

Comment by dandroidz
2016-10-19 09:34:30

LOL. Of course they did their research. They researched how they could take cheap credit, build something, and then just charge ridiculous prices to fill with white collar workers who spend 50% of their take home on rent.

 
Comment by Avg Joe
2016-10-19 17:08:24

Pretty sure that their researcher was named “Suzanne”.

 
 
Comment by jerzdebil
2016-10-19 10:48:55

The Real Estate Crash Is Starting, by Reggie Middleton
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30qsOHaAJeo

Interesting point that this go around will be a true liquidity crisis with rates already near 0. Probably see NIRP plus the fed buying bank stock. The whole economy and country are a black hole of stupid.

Comment by Paid Minion
2016-10-19 11:49:43

If you are some kind of dumbazz who still makes things in the USA, you are easily expendable.

If you are involved in real estate, with Banksters being involved, you will get a bailout of some kind. Guaranteed.

If real estate is sucked into the abyss, it won’t go without plenty of crying and screaming, or without a bunch of lifeline/life preservers being thrown to it. Too many people have their money/livelihoods tied up in preserving the mythology.

The rest of the economy will be given the “Sophie’s daughter” treatment, while Sophie mutters stuff like “bootstraps”, “Free Markets”, “Can’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs”, etc..

Much like our current Presidential election. Given a selection of pizz-poor options, most people will be conservative, and go with the least pizz-poor option.

Comment by mcbain!
2016-10-19 15:36:01

I like what Scott Adams, Dilbert author said (btw, that mf-er can both take it and dish it out on twitter - full beast mode) about the election and women. If women vote emotionally for Hillary only because shes a woman, they OWN every f-up that happens under her. There is no rational argument for voting for such a corrupt hag, just an emotional one. You can hate Trump and vote 3rd party, thats fine, but Hillary will do for women what Ogolfer did for blacks - in which case I expect them to revert back to property by 2020.

Comment by palmetto
2016-10-19 17:13:37

The guy has some major stones. He threw down the gauntlet to Jack Dorsey over allegedly being shadowbanned on Twitter:

http://blog.dilbert.com/post/151981022076/is-twitter-shadowbanning-me

“I don’t have confirmation from Twitter that this is happening, so I tweeted Jack Dorsey today to ask. I’m sure he’s busy, but I’m hard to ignore. If no response in two days, I’ll assume my Twitter followers are correct that my tweets are not always showing up in their feeds. Shadowbanning isn’t a complete suppression of tweets. It only suppresses some percentage of them to reduce the influence of the sender. Allegedly.

I won’t jump the gun and assume something nefarious is happening. But I will say that IF it is happening, I would regard it as treason. If one political party can use the machinery of social networks to reduce free speech, that is an attack on American values at the deepest level. As a patriot, I would feel obligated to help kill Twitter. (And you wouldn’t want to bet against me.)”

One thing that has been so interesting about this election cycle is getting to learn about all these different players on the right, left and in between. People I’ve never heard of, and people I was somewhat familiar with, but found out more about them and learned things from them, not all of it political by any means. It has been part of the upside of all of this. Yes, relationships have sundered, but new relationships have formed.

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Comment by Jesus Navas is my Lord Savior
2016-10-19 11:35:03

CNN “Loses” Satellite Feed Just As Republican Congressman Mentions WikiLeaks

Comment by Apartment 401
2016-10-19 16:32:30

Sounds about what you should expect from “real journalists” LOLZ…

Comment by palmetto
2016-10-19 17:20:57

Isn’t it just the worst? I always knew the media was pretty bogus, the reporting on housing since 2005 showed me how much, this election cycle has revealed the full monty. Real cretins.

Comment by Apartment 401
2016-10-19 18:15:41

I’m listening to (not watching) the debate on C-SPAN Radio now.

As William Faulkner said in his Nobel acceptance speech mankind will not only survive but will endure.

Good luck to you and all your peeps :)

I just wanna clock as many overtime hours as possible right now and am too busy and too tired to spend all day posting about this…

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Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2016-10-19 13:06:55

Suzanne’s research indicates Houston has bottomed out and is now poised to soar when the green shoots of Spring make their appearance. Buy now or be priced out forever! You can do this!

http://www.businessinsider.com/houston-economy-comments-in-the-feds-beige-book-2016-10

 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2016-10-19 13:11:41

Surely if ‘Muricans elect a semi-invalid, mentally confused Hillary to be president, our adversaries with their sense of decency, restraint, and fair play would never exploit such a vulnerability to engage in power plays. Because that would be wrong and leave them open to denunciation by Libertarians for initiating the use of violence.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/a9760b222a6f4a819bc87f8306f6631b/us-skorea-discuss-nuclear-deterrence-against-nkorea

 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2016-10-19 13:18:02

Another RINO sellout collects his 30 pieces of silver for his services to Wall Street while supposedly representing the rubes back home.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/10/18/bloomberg-eric-cantor-highest-paid-corporate-board-member-2015/

 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2016-10-19 13:22:03

China burning through its dollar reserves to prop up its currency. No wonder Chinese embezzlers want to park their money in real estate in North America before the bottom drops out.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-10-18/china-holdings-of-u-s-treasuries-drop-to-almost-four-year-low

Comment by In Colorado
2016-10-19 20:24:04

The problem for them is that it will be next to impossible for them to get their hands on some Uncle Bucks. It will be “interesting” when the ChiComs run out of reserves altogether.

 
 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2016-10-19 13:26:26

But…but…Yellen and the financial media keep telling me that Everything is Awesome!

http://wolfstreet.com/2016/10/19/us-freight-index-drops-to-lowest-level-since-2009-overcapacity-crushes-rates/

 
 
Comment by Sacks of Dong
2016-10-19 15:43:58

“Jordan is the director of media relations for Egnyte, a Mountain View tech company. They make “decent money,” Jordan said, but not enough to remain in his hometown. In fact, they moved last week to Scottsdale, Arizona, where they rent a four-bedroom, three-bath house with a pool for $2,000.

Some of these “tech” company names are painfully stupid.

Comment by Carl Morris
2016-10-19 18:12:06

Path E-Tech Mgmt?

 
Comment by mcbain!
2016-10-19 19:25:54

And the naming/spelling “techbonics” these fake companies use drives me nuts. You ever look at their products? What produces you ask? Exactly - most are a solution in search of a problem, backed by a financial bug in search of a windshield.

Good for this guy that he got out of the bay area clown show and found himself a well priced rental. Thats how you do it!

 
 
Comment by butters
2016-10-19 16:54:40

Congrats, Bill. It’s a boy!

Comment by palmetto
2016-10-19 17:28:26

And it may be the only child he actually fathered, if the rumors about Diane Reynolds are true.

 
 
Comment by Apartment 401
2016-10-19 18:23:39

“Scare rhetoric” about slicing open and smashing the skulls of fetuses and sucking their brains out with a vaccuum?

Yeah, no problem.

Men, don’t create unwanted pregnancies, and you eliminate this problem.

Responsible use of birth control is not that complicated.

#Losing

 
Comment by Apartment 401
2016-10-19 18:29:35

Chris Wallace just dropped a Wikileaks quote to the Hillary on open borders.

#Failing

 
Comment by Apartment 401
2016-10-19 18:43:40

“2/3 of all new jobs come from small businesses” — HRC

Yeah, and I’m working for one, I’m their 7th employee.

You’re doing nothing for jobs, for employers, for employees, beyond taxing us to death. Get the f* out of the way and let us work.

This ain’t no Democrat Party I grew up with in Ohio in the 1990s.

#Worthless

 
Comment by AbsoluteBeginner
2016-10-19 19:08:20

Rigged election.

 
Comment by AbsoluteBeginner
2016-10-19 19:12:57

“You’re a puppet!”

priceless

 
Comment by phony scandals
2016-10-19 19:43:40

That dug won’t climb

 
Comment by phony scandals
2016-10-19 19:49:58

Stalingrad

Leningrad

Wikigrad

 
Comment by palmetto
2016-10-20 04:36:21

And the winner is…..Chris Wallace, for best performance as an “Unbiased Journalist”!

He looked quite spiffy, too.

 
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