November 12, 2016

Giving Some Extraordinary Gains Back

A report from the Star Tribune in Minnesota. “As farmers cut back, the doldrums caused by lackluster prices for crops and livestock have started to ripple onto the main streets of rural Minnesota. When farmers have less money to spend, it affects anyone who is selling farm equipment, marketing fertilizer, or building new barns, bins and sheds. Low commodity prices also put a squeeze on cash rents for land that many retired farmers or their families depend on for income. David Preisler, executive director of the Minnesota Pork Producers Association, said the direct effects of weak crop and livestock prices show up quickly in many small towns. ‘The first ripple effect you see is going to be any sort of capital purchases that are more discretionary in nature,’ he said.”

“The average spending for machinery and equipment in 2012 and 2013, when crop prices peaked, was about $117,000 per farm. That plummeted to about $67,500 in 2014 and $48,000 in 2015. Farm building purchases such as grain bins and hog barns had a similar drop-off, from about $36,000 per farm in 2013 to $21,000 in 2014 and $16,000 in 2015.”

“The report also found that fertilizer purchases fell more than 14 percent from 2013 to 2014 before rebounding slightly in 2015. And land rent, which typically lags behind the ups and downs of crop prices, increased in the two years after crop prices peaked, but last year fell about 3 percent.”

“AGCO, a major farm machinery manufacturer in Jackson, Minn., is feeling the pinch. Big machinery makers John Deere and Caterpillar also reported declines in sales due to softness in ag and construction markets. ‘The biggest driver of our business is definitely farm income,’ said Greg Peterson, AGCO’s director of investor relations. ‘So where commodity prices are certainly play a big part of that.’”

“Peterson said the company has adjusted to the pullback in business by cutting costs across the board and slowing production at its plant in southwestern Minnesota. That meant laying off about 10 percent of its workforce in 2015, he said, and another 10 percent in 2016. The plant currently employs about 850 workers, Peterson said.”

From Ag Week. “Midwest and Mid-South farm income and expenditures remained under pressure during the third quarter of 2016, according to the latest Agricultural Finance Monitor published by the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis. Looking ahead at the fourth quarter, proportionately more lenders indicated they expect values to decline for quality farmland and ranch or pastureland.”

“In contrast, year-over year cash rents for quality farmland dropped 6.1 percent during the third quarter. This followed a drop of 10 percent seen during the second quarter. Meanwhile, cash rents for ranchland or pastureland fell 3.9 percent in the third quarter, following a plunge of 20.7 percent in the second quarter. Rents for quality farmland and ranchland or pastureland are expected to continue to decline in the fourth quarter, the lenders said.”

“‘The financially conservative farmer is probably going to survive during this period of low grain and cattle prices. The young farmers with very little equity are really going to struggle,’ said a Missouri lender. ‘It looks like the corn yields are coming in exceptionally high, which will help everyone pay expenses. However, I think there will be very little left to purchase land, machinery, and other equipment.’”

From Agriculture.com. “Now that harvest is rapidly winding its way way to completion, many farm tenants and landowners will quickly turn their attention to cash rental rates for 2017. Cash rental rate decisions and discussions can often be challenging, especially in times of rapid commodity price changes. Data shows that the declines have now begun to accelerate, as the likelihood of sustained low commodity prices has taken hold. In 2016, cash-rental rates declined by 10.9%, the second-largest decline seen in the data. The only larger decline occurred in 1986 when rates fell by 11.2%.”

“Clearly, cash rents are working lower. Simply put, farm economics drive cash rental rates. If farm economics undergo a sustained period of decline, one should expect rents to follow. It appears that rents may have indeed overshot to the upside in the great commodity boom. As we noted in 2014, the cash rental rate adjustment can be significant in such situations. A number of factors will determine where things go from here. They include how long commodity prices remain depressed and whether the declines continue.”

“As we noted in 2014, government program payments will also play an important role. With payments set to start declining for crops planted in 2017, one might expect that this, too, will work against cash rental rates.”

From AgriMoney. “US farmland prices are heading for their ‘first significant correction since the mid-1980s,’ MetLife Agricultural Finance said, as official data showed that, on some measures, market conditions were already the worst since then. Meanwhile, separate data from the Fed’s Kansas City bank showed values in the central and southern Plains, from Nebraska to Oklahoma, falling by more than 6% year on year, at the quickest rate since early 1987.”

“The price fall in the July-to-September quarter ‘was the sharpest year-over-year reduction in the value of each type of farmland throughout the district since the mid-1980s,’ the Kansas City Fed said. ‘Evidence of steepening declines in farmland values was seen throughout the district.’”

From MarketWatch. “A fourth straight year of bumper corn and soybean harvests is nipping the per-bushel profit collected by farmers, and that makes the land they work worth less. In fact, the value of ‘quality’ farmland in the Chicago Federal Reserve’s jurisdiction fell again in the third quarter, down 3%, from last year’s third quarter. It’s the fourth straight quarter of year-over-year declines for land values in the district, which covers Illinois, Iowa, Indiana, Wisconsin and Michigan. It’s also its longest losing streak since 1986–87.”

“Indiana’s farmland values were up 1 percent from a year ago and Wisconsin’s were up 2 percent, while farmland values for Illinois fell 4 percent, Iowa fell 5 percent and Michigan dropped 11 percent, the Fed’s report issued Thursday showed. ‘Bumper harvests should provide some protection for farmers’ revenues, but falling corn prices have pulled the rug out from beneath their feet,’ said David Oppedahl, senior business economist at the Chicago Fed.”

“What’s more, the USDA this week raised its outlook for domestic corn stockpiles at the end of the 2016-17 season, pegging inventories at end-August 2017 at 2.403 billion bushels, which would be the largest in nearly three decades. The report also looked at credit conditions for farmers in the area. For the third quarter of 2016, most of the indicators of the Fed district’s agricultural credit conditions were more negative than those of a year ago.”

“According to responding bankers, hog, cattle and dairy farmers should also expect to face lower earnings moving into winter, which would make this the second year in a row with a negative outlook for all of them, the Chicago Fed said. In a separate report out Thursday, the Kansas City Fed reported a slow-but-steady rise in financial stress in its farm sector during the third quarter of 2016 as income in the sector remained low. The Kansas City Fed covers Kansas, part of Missouri, part of Nebraska, Oklahoma, Colorado, Wyoming and part of New Mexico.”

“‘Persistent weakness in both the crop and livestock sectors has caused producers to expend more working capital to meet short-term financial obligations,’ the Kansas City Fed’s Nathan Kauffman and Matt Clark said in the report. ‘An ongoing decline in farmland values and cash rental rates has accelerated slightly under prolonged pressure from falling farm income.’”

The Western Farm Press. “It’s no secret that the profitability of tree nuts is not what it was one or two years ago. With the decline came a softening of agricultural land values across California, according to a Rabobank report. What stood out to Roland Fumasi, lead author for the report titled ‘California Agricultural Land Values Outlook 2016′, when compiling information for the report was the run-up in prices for ‘marginal ground.’”

“‘The numbers showed the additional risk folks were willing to take by either paying high lease rates or paying high prices to put permanent crops into marginal-yielding ground,’ he said. ‘The point is it wasn’t just the best ground that participated in this rise.’ Fumasi is not entirely bearish as projections suggest a slowdown in the rate of decline among the various regions and in certain crops. ‘We’re just giving some of our earlier extraordinary gains back,’ he says.”

“Of note, Fumasi cautions while the current change could be termed a ‘correction,’ it is not a ‘bubble,’ or false economic beliefs that have come to roost because of ‘paper profits.’ Land value increases from 2010 to 2015 were ‘certainly supported by underlying profitability’ in various crops, Fumasi says. Nevertheless, the decline in land values at rates similar to what they rose will, in the short term, appear significant.”

The Southern Illinoisan. “Farmers treading water during a period of sluggish crop prices are getting little relief from their landlords. Average net farm income in Illinois plunged from $107,000 in 2014 to minus $3,000 last year, according to Farm Business Farm Management Association figures. ‘If you were a salaried person and had that kind of swing in your paycheck, how happy would you be? Not very,’ said Ruth Hambleton, who teaches ag economics at Southern Illinois University.”

“And it’s not like landholders are getting rich. Annual returns average only 2 to 6 percent of value in Illinois. ‘Cash rents follow the land values,’ Hambleton said. ‘Compare land values to the stock market. People don’t like the downward adjustment. They appreciate the incline we’ve been in since the 1990s.’”

“In Illinois, three-fourths of agricultural land is owned by someone other than the farmer. Statistically, cash leases are more common than crop-share agreements. That is a relatively recent phenomenon, as the balance tipped in 2006.”




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Comment by Ben Jones
2016-11-12 16:34:47

‘Of note, Fumasi cautions while the current change could be termed a ‘correction,’ it is not a ‘bubble,’ or false economic beliefs that have come to roost because of ‘paper profits.’

‘In my recent travels, I continue to encounter the question, “Hey Doc, why haven’t land values dropped?” Well, this is a serious question for many connected to the agriculture industry.’

‘As we enter the third year of the economic reset for most commodities, why have land values remained relatively stable? First, farmland asset values rapidly appreciated in recent years. Today, it is in an asset bubble, not unlike the credit bubble of the 1980’s. Specifically, a ten-year super cycle as five years of record profits built cash and equity reserves for many producers and agricultural investors.’

‘Next, lenders, in large part, have been conservative holding the percentage they will loan, or the loan to value ratio to 60 percent to 75 percent of the established value of the asset. Still others, such as Farm Credit Associations and some banks, stated $4,000 to $6,000 per acre is the maximum amount they are willing to loan, regardless of the appraised value, which may be $10,000 to $20,000 per acre. Of course, crop insurance has also played a role in mitigating risk for land investors, assuring at least some level of revenue.’

‘However, in addition to monetary value, land with water or other precious resources evokes an increased psychological value as compared to other investments. In fact, outside investors continue to be interested in farmland as the global marketplace fails to provide other, equally attractive opportunities for returns on investment.’

‘So, how long will land values hold? Well, values are sporadic. In some regions, values are already down 10 to 15%. Some of today’s land auctions bring very few bidders and in some cases result in no sale.’

‘At the same time, other areas find robust land sales with competitive bidders or investors in the growth mode. This year’s first round of refinancing granted a one or two-year reprieve and avoided a flood of land assets on the market. However, in the coming months and years, the refinancing process may look quite different and change the end result considerably.’

‘As is usually the case, many factors will combine to determine the fate of land values and sales. Factors such as suppressed commodity prices, interest rate increases, global growth rates and the refinancing process could each separately or cumulatively fuel the decline of land values.’

 
Comment by Senior Housing Analyst
2016-11-12 18:22:16

North Andover, MA Housing Prices Crater 13% YoY

http://www.zillow.com/north-andover-ma/home-values/

 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2016-11-12 19:15:33

“In Illinois, three-fourths of agricultural land is owned by someone other than the farmer. Statistically, cash leases are more common than crop-share agreements. That is a relatively recent phenomenon, as the balance tipped in 2006.”

A return to neofuedalism. Serfin’ USA.

Comment by oxide
2016-11-13 07:08:24

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“The average farmer does not own all the land he farms. He probably owns some of it, but the farmer who owns every single acre he farms is rare. Honestly, this hasn’t changed much over the years – farmers have never owned a majority of the land they farmed – but the move to an “absentee landowner” might be relatively new. This change has happened over time, as older generations pass away and leave the farm to their three (or ten) children in equal parts and then not all children remain on the farm.”

https://corncorps.com/2014/11/06/farming-for-dummies-cash-rent-vs-crop-share/
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The cross-point from crop share to cash rent is significant. In a crop share, the renter is usually renting from another farmer, since they share in the decisions as well as the profits (or losses). Case rent is hands-off; the absentee owner could care nothing for farming at all.

This guy at Corncrops dot com is generous if he thinks that the absentee owner is one of the kids who left the farm to live in the city. I’m wonder when a majority of those absentee landlords will have never seen the farm and live in China.

Comment by Ben Jones
2016-11-13 07:21:03

From the last link:

‘Despite low revenues, land rents have declined more gradually. In effect, Hambleton said, farmers are losing money in order to keep the acreage in their farming future. “When he’s paying $150 cash rent and $50 is what you can really afford to pay, he’s giving that guy (the landlord) $100 for the honor of running his equipment over it,” she said. “We’re subsidizing the landowner at this point. Why do farmers continue to do this? It’s so they can hang on to that ground.”

‘So where are they getting money to pay rents? The answer lies within the colorful steel crawling across farmland across Illinois. The boom years of the early 2010s put enough money into farm pockets to pay for new machinery.’

‘Depreciation on those purchases is being drawn down and keeping the bottom line from bottoming out. There will soon be a time of reckoning, however, when depreciation will dry up. Farmers will then be forced to look elsewhere for relief.’

“Farmers are putting more money into their land rental agreements than they are going to be getting out economically. That’s especially the case in southern Illinois,” Hambleton said. “At some point, if this continues, the machinery will be used up and there won’t be any money to replace that machinery. And whether lenders will go through a whole line of machinery may be a different story.”

“In 2015, for every dollar in debt, they had $2 dollars on balance sheet to pay it. The bad news, they have pretty well burned through their working capital of cash. In 2016 we’re getting into savings accounts.”

This sounds like one of those, “if it can’t continue it won’t” deals.

Comment by Blue Skye
2016-11-13 08:54:55

“said Ruth Hambleton, who teaches ag economics at Southern Illinois University…‘Cash rents follow the land values”

If you teach long enough, you might learn something.

Grampa Cal made a living in Kansas during the GD fixing tractors. There simply wasn’t money for new equipment.

Cheap credit -> new more efficient equipment -> bumper crops -> crash. The debt remains.

In the 30s natural disaster came along about at this point to flatten the bent over indebted farmers.

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Comment by Mafia Blocks
2016-11-13 09:34:11

It’s no coincidence that mortgages were only available to acquire or expand farm operations back then.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Apartment 401
2016-11-12 19:57:41

This is a very Los Angeles song.

The Byrds — Eight Miles High (1965):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J74ttSR8lEg

Comment by Professor Bear
2016-11-12 23:39:03

I have been reviewing the post-1965 LA music canon. It stands tall alongside the work of the British invaders. Too bad so many of the biggest stars destroyed themselves at a young age with booze, acid and heroin.

Comment by Carl Morris
2016-11-13 19:29:42

Cool. I’m a fan of the ~82-92 Sunset strip era myself but my guess is that isn’t what you’re talking about :-).

Comment by Professor Bear
2016-11-13 23:24:05

Thinking more of the Laurel Canyon gang…

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Comment by Senior Housing Analyst
2016-11-12 21:28:33

Bethesda, MD Housing Prices Crater 5% YoY

http://www.zillow.com/bethesda-md/home-values/

 
Comment by taxpayers
2016-11-13 04:58:29

Minot,nd
Zillow predicts prices up 2% and ! lets trying to get 170 a sq ft
This show how reporting us sticky on the downside

 
Comment by azdude
2016-11-13 06:44:27

Pay your wall street taxes peons! Yes that includes interest on your home loans from credit created out of thin air.

 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2016-11-13 06:46:16

The Keynesian fraudsters are getting ready to double down on their failed “reflation” policies.

http://www.businessinsider.com/erics-russell-napier-investors-gamed-by-the-financial-system-2016-11

Comment by Professor Bear
2016-11-13 08:46:16

Yep.

A gold-plated presidency
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Nov 9th 2016 | Business and finance
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GOLD is Donald Trump’s favourite metal. The taps on his private jet are 24-karat gold-plated. His $100 vodka is adorned with a golden “T”. He even hankers after the gold standard. He must have found it gratifying, therefore, that gold soared to its highest price since Brexit after his overnight victory in America’s presidential election. But copper and industrial metals also rallied. They tell a similar story: prepare for reflation.

Comment by Blue Skye
2016-11-13 09:02:59

Gold has been in free fall the past few days.

Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2016-11-13 09:11:35

I’m buying all the silver & platinum I can at these firesale prices. They won’t last.

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Comment by Mafia Blocks
2016-11-13 09:30:07

It’s much too early to buy PM. Fire sale prices are coming though.

 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2016-11-13 09:42:15

If the price keeps dropping, I’ll keep stacking. While “the markets” are assuming Trump is going to “reflate” (whatever that means), geopolitical tensions are escalating.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-13/russia-puts-strategic-bombers-combat-alert-imminent-strikes-targets-syria

 
Comment by Blue Skye
2016-11-13 09:47:16

PMs will be liquidated along with all other real assets when the biggest pyramid of debt in history breaks down.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2016-11-13 11:59:45

Maybe this time will be different, but geopolitical tensions have been quite escalated ever since September 11, 2001, with little discernible positive effect on the gold price, not to mention a bevy of other commodities which recently crashed.

But I was more interested in the bit about Trump’s “reflation rhetoric” than the proximate effect on gold prices. Does anyone who posts here claim to understand where he is going with that?

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2016-11-13 12:06:27

I’m sure glad I talked Dad into selling his Treasurys and hanging onto his TIPS!

November 10, 2016, 11:23 A.M. ET
TIPS Are Way Outperforming Treasuries
By Amey Stone

For a global bond portfolio manager like Raman Srivastava, deputy chief investment officer at Standish Mellon, a boutique within BNY Mellon, one of the most notable developments in the bond market since Donald Trump’s election is the strong performance of Treasury Inflation Protected Securities (TIPS).

It’s a little hard for individual investors to see the outperformance since they are judged relative to ordinary Treasuries, which have been falling in price as rates rise. TIPS prices are affected by inflation expectations — which are rising — but also interest rates.

Here’s the comparison Srivastava provided Barron’s to highlight TIPS outperformance:

The yield on the 10-year Treasury note has moved from 1.86% as of Tuesday’s close to 2.08%. That’s a 22 basis point move. If look you look at the 10-year inflation- linked security, over same period the yield has gone up about 5 basis points. You have a slight negative return, but much less than Treasuries.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Ben Jones
2016-11-13 07:18:01

‘What stood out to Roland Fumasi, lead author for the report titled ‘California Agricultural Land Values Outlook 2016′, when compiling information for the report was the run-up in prices for ‘marginal ground.’

‘The numbers showed the additional risk folks were willing to take by either paying high lease rates or paying high prices to put permanent crops into marginal-yielding ground’

Then he says this:

‘Land value increases from 2010 to 2015 were ‘certainly supported by underlying profitability’ in various crops’

So was it marginal ground or did the profits support the high prices? Sounds like they were betting on even higher nut prices. And we can add almonds and the like to what has been over-planted.

Comment by Professor Bear
2016-11-13 08:48:26

Sounds to me like they were betting on even nuttier prices.

 
Comment by Price Discovery
2016-11-13 09:14:24

This explains the clearance prices of pistachios and almonds I’m observing at warehouse outlets and supermarkets.

Comment by Professor Bear
2016-11-13 12:07:27

Never been a better time to buy nuts!

 
 
Comment by Lurker
2016-11-13 10:02:56

This has been easy to see driving down Hwy 5 over the last few years. Every year more nut tree farms spring up out of nothing! On 101 it’s more and more wineries on previously open space.

At the same time, Central Valley farmers have been fighting over ever-decreasing supplies of water for more than a decade (see “Congress created dustbowl” signs along Hwy 5.) Apparently nut trees are one of the higher water use crops in CA, but also one of the more productive:

“There’s a reason the amount of water almond and pistachio trees use jumped 54 percent between 2000 and 2010: They’re very profitable, generating $4.4 billion a year, or $1,200 for each acre-foot of water… Vineyards used far less—1.6 million acre-feet that year—but wrung $2,470 from every acre-foot of water.”

Apparently vineyards and nut trees are also better suited for marginal land than other crops.

It seems self-reinforcing: higher land prices + less water per farm = need for higher profits per acre and acre-foot of water = more nut tree farms on previously unused marginal land = higher land prices + less water per farm = rinse and repeat, at least until oversupply changes the equation.

Interesting articles here:

http://www.takepart.com/article/2015/05/11/cows-not-almonds-are-biggest-water-users

https://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/2015/05/19/who-is-behind-those-water-signs-on-the-i-5/

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2016-11-13 12:02:22

“…the run-up in prices for ‘marginal ground.’”

The same thing happens with marginal residential ground during a real estate bubble, as outlying hell holes like Tracy and Stockton attract an increasing number of long-distance commuters who can’t afford to buy or rent anywhere near their Bay Area workplaces.

Once the bubble pops, it is these same marginal outlying areas that get hammered the hardest, a nobody would want to live there if prices were sane.

 
 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2016-11-13 07:48:22

Not housing related, but a beautiful story nonetheless about enduring love and friendship (Leonard Cohen’s final letter to his Norwegian muse, Marianne Ihlen).

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/leonard-cohen-pens-heartbreaking-final-letter-to-dying-muse-marianne-ihlen-a7177126.html

 
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Comment by phony scandals
2016-11-13 08:40:20

:)

 
 
Comment by Ben Jones
2016-11-13 08:18:15

Stock buy backs. Another fine mess Janet:

ExxonMobil Is Digging Its Own Grave

And it’s not just Exxon.

Comment by Raymond K Hessel
 
 
Comment by phony scandals
2016-11-13 08:29:11

This post is about homes for sale that should be coming on to the market.

Why is George Stephanopoulos on my TeeeVeeee presiding over a bunch of Lying Losers yammering about Alt-right, Climate Change and Whitelash when he should be on a one-way Qantas flight to Australia?

Actress wife of George Stephanopoulos promises post-Trump exit from country – offers to help pack come pouring in!

November 5, 2016

The actress wife of George Stephanopoulos threatened a move to Australia in the case of a Donald Trump victory Tuesday and many are ready to help her pack.

Actress and comedian Ali Wentworth, who is married to the host of ABC News’ “This Week,” co-anchor of “Good Morning, America” and former political adviser to Bill Clinton, joined the growing list of Hollywood lefties who promise an exodus if Trump wins the election.

Read more: http://www.bizpacreview.com/2016/11/05/actress-wife-george-stephanopoulos-promises-post-trump-exit-country-offers-help-pack-come-pouring-408626#ixzz4PtxAabOo

Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2016-11-13 08:39:43

None of these libtard asshats are going anywhere. They’ll “stay and fight.” For the children….

 
Comment by palmetto
2016-11-13 08:41:48

I think Mother Nature sent a warning to New Zealand:

http://news.trust.org/item/20161113113702-re5f9

 
 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2016-11-13 08:37:43

A typical corporate racket: “cost-cutting” by skimping on products and reducing “headcount,” while oligarch CEOs and company officers award themselves obscene salaries and bonuses.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3931412/Boss-snack-company-cut-number-triangles-Toblerone-earned-100million-just-six-years.html

 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2016-11-13 08:44:07

Oh dear. London’s property market - driven up to insane heights by global oligarchs and embezzlers parking their ill-gotten loot in real estate - is now “tanking.” Pity the overleveraged FBs who fell for “buy now or be priced out forever.”

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-10/london-property-market-tanking-by-the-day-green-s-vernon-says

 
Comment by phony scandals
2016-11-13 08:45:42

Isn’t there a new friend here from New Zealand?

Quake strikes New Zealand, thousands flee homes as tsunami hits

by Reuters
Sunday, 13 November 2016 15:38 GMT

Comment by palmetto
2016-11-13 08:50:34

Yes, hope he/she is OK and is able to weigh in.

As I recall, one of the HBB’s early posters, aladinsane, wanted to move to NZ. Hope he made it.

I would be curious if there are any parts of NZ which are not earthquake prone.

Comment by Blue Skye
2016-11-13 09:08:14

Last he reported IIRC he was spending time in a monastery in Mexico. I hope he found himself.

Comment by palmetto
2016-11-13 09:15:37

Wow, I missed that one.

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Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2016-11-13 08:59:53

God is warning New Zealand not to even think about giving sanctuary to any butt-hurt libtards fleeing from the Trump Regime.

 
Comment by palmetto
2016-11-13 09:23:52

This is cool, a farewell haka for a retiring teacher at a school in New Zealand. Holy Jeebus, those are warriors for real.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz7DzheCeuQ

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2016-11-13 12:09:54

Shaking was strong, but apparently loss of life was limited compared to similar magnitude quakes that hit in less prepared parts of the world. Also the feared tsunami appears to not have materialized.

Comment by Incognito Owl
2016-11-14 13:05:23

Yo there.

Yes, it was a wild ride. Bypassed highly-populated areas this time, but lots of damage. If you’ve seen the aerial photos, lots of stranded farm animals on precarious islands of solid ground, where the land has just collapsed around them.

There was a tsunami, max of 5 metres, greatest damage to upper East Coast of South Island. No news yet because the town is completely cut off, but Kaikoura probably had a lot of tsunami damage in addition to earthquake damage. Lots of residential is within a block of the beach.

Only way in and out at the moment is by helicopter, so supplies, medical and rescue teams going in, tourists coming out. Navy ship is on its way.

Tourist season probably a write-off this year. State Highway 1 and the railway are shagged, will take months to repair, if ever.

But, to be expected here. When it comes to geology, New Zealand does not piss around. Whole country extremely earthquake-prone, lots of active volcanoes.

 
 
 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2016-11-13 08:46:03

Paul Krugman thinks the Ring of Fire is bullish for housing and the economy, what with all that destruction needing to be fixed.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AS_NEW_ZEALAND_EARTHQUAKE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-11-13-07-36-31

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2016-11-13 08:47:26

“Of note, Fumasi cautions while the current change could be termed a ‘correction,’ it is not a ‘bubble,’ or false economic beliefs that have come to roost because of ‘paper profits.’ Land value increases from 2010 to 2015 were ‘certainly supported by underlying profitability’ in various crops, Fumasi says. Nevertheless, the decline in land values at rates similar to what they rose will, in the short term, appear significant.”

If it expands like a bubble, glimmers like a bubble, and pops like a bubble, IT’S A BUBBLE!

Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2016-11-13 08:58:51

Welcome back, PB. I’ve been worried about you & Bill. Remember, you have every reason to go on. None come to mind just yet, but I’m sure I’ll think of something.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/11/national-suicide-hotline-confirms-big-increase-in-calls-after-trump-victory/

Comment by Professor Bear
2016-11-13 12:12:50

You’re projecting the way you would have reacted to an HRC victory, and maybe you missed my post that I voted for neither of the Republicrat candidates.

The sun has risen every day since Tuesday, and the weather has never been better.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2016-11-13 12:20:54

P.S. I’m very happy for you that all of the Goldman Sachs candidates were defeated, including Lyin’ Ted and Crooked Hillary.

A list of possible Trump cabinet picks that everyone has had to Google
Published: Nov 12, 2016 3:13 p.m. ET

Treasury Secretary: The little-known candidate here is Steve Mnuchin, formerly of Goldman Sachs and Trump’s finance chairman. Mnuchin is also a prodigious producer of Hollywood movies, including “Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice.”

 
 
 
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Comment by Professor Bear
2016-11-13 12:15:36

Who wasn’t “biased”? Rasmussen, perhaps?

It’s bloody difficult to predict an election outcome when the candidate who wins doesn’t even capture a majority of the popular vote.

Voters Predict Clinton Will Beat Trump
Monday, November 07, 2016

The presidential race between Democrat Hillary Clinton and Republican Donald Trump has been tight nationally for months, but a majority of voters think Clinton will win the election.

Comment by Blue Skye
2016-11-13 12:32:30

It was somewhat of a miracle. What kind we will have to be patient to see.

Comment by Professor Bear
2016-11-13 12:47:52

I definitely see upside potential. For example, Trump’s pick for Fed chair is quite likely to finally put an end to the Greenspan era.

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Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2016-11-13 08:55:54

Given the weakening of global economies, we should’ve had deflation by now given the gutting of the middle and working classes by our oligarch overlords and the Fed’s “No Billionaire Left Behind” financial warfare against the 99%. But surprise surprise, when you create $16 trillion out of thin air and gift to to your favored banksters, inflation starts to manifest. When is the bond market going to force Yellen the Felon and the rest of the “former” Goldmanites and Keynesian fraudsters at our central banks to start hiking interest rates?

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/german-inflation-confirmed-at-2-year-high-2016-11-11

 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2016-11-13 09:04:58

The politicians’ War on Cash - you can’t comprehensively loot taxpayers and the productive until you have full visibility into their assets and revenue streams - is meeting resistance in India.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/anger-rising-india-banks-slow-dispense-cash-millions-073107745.html?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma

Comment by 2banana
2016-11-13 09:21:06

Fiat money.

Governments can do anything with it. By the stroke of a pen.

For example:

The UK periodically changes its money.

The older printed denominations are no good.

You have to go to a single bank in London if you missed the exchange date.

And they ask lots of questiins…

 
 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2016-11-13 09:17:36

Chris Hedges is a lefty, but one I’ve always respected due to his keen powers of observation and cogent warnings of the dangers to society of the corporate state and its unfettered greed and concentration of power in oligarch hands. His insights tend to be prescient and are worth reading.

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/its_worse_than_you_think_20161111

Comment by 2banana
2016-11-13 09:33:15

A silly ultra left wing article.

For example:

We missed fascism by a hair’s breath of the Clintons.

I don’t remember the Jews of Germany rioting, raping and creating no go zones.

Barely a mention of obama ignoring laws on the books, making up laws with EOs and creating treaties with senate approval.

Fascism requires a big government controlling every facet of your life.

Mussolini described fascism as the following:

“All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state.”

Now which party and politicians does that sound like?

Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2016-11-13 13:12:43

“All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state.”

Now which party and politicians does that sound like?

Both.

 
 
 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2016-11-13 09:23:17

Ms. Lindsey Graham, John McCain’s lapdog and a pom-pom shaker for every neocon debacle of the past ten years, blasts Trump’s foreign policy. Now that’s rich.

http://www.businessinsider.com/lindsey-graham-trump-foreign-policy-2016-11

 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2016-11-13 09:28:48

Trump reiterating his intent to deport three million criminal aliens. I’ll believe it when I see it. He could start by demanding the expedited deportation of any illegal-alien Soros Scum arrested for participating in violent protests.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3932048/Trump-says-immediately-deport-two-three-million-illegal-immigrants-criminal-records-insists-build-wall.html

Comment by 2banana
2016-11-13 10:58:59

A politician keeping his promises…

Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2016-11-13 13:13:59

Talking about keeping your promises and actually doing it are two different things. Let’s see what he does his first 100 days in office. And who he appoints. That will tell all.

 
 
Comment by 2banana
2016-11-13 11:00:13

No public and private positions.

How unclinton…

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2016-11-13 12:26:27

It appears that a sea change is coming to the Fed within the next couple of years, after Bernanke and Yellen extended the Greenspan era for another decade beyond his retirement.


Fed Chairman: Although any changing of the guard likely won’t happen until 2018, that hasn’t stopped talk of possible replacements for Fed Chairwoman Janet Yellen. The Horatio Alger here is David Malpass, who served in the Ronald Reagan Treasury Department and became chief economist at Bear Stearns from 1993 until 2008. After that, he unsuccessfully ran for the U.S. Senate in New York. He organized a letter campaign to former Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke trying to get the central bank’s second round of quantitative easing “reconsidered and discontinued.” Another mention is given to former Kansas City Fed President Tom Hoenig, who is now the vice chairman of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. Floating among speculators, too, is Kevin Warsh, who served at the Fed under Bernanke, but has been more critical of policy since leaving the central bank, and Stanford University economist John Taylor.

Comment by Professor Bear
2016-11-13 20:50:51

The Financial Times
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Henry Kaufman says Trump will help kill 30-year bond rally

‘Dr Doom’ also predicts dramatic change in the Fed’s composition

Henry Kaufman gained his gloomy moniker ‘Dr Doom’ by correctly calling the last bond bear market in the 1970s
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November 11, 2016
by: Robin Wigglesworth

The election of Donald Trump represents a “tectonic shift” for global economics and politics, and will help kill the three-decade bond market rally, according to Henry Kaufman, the original “Dr Doom”.

The former Salomon Brothers chief economist gained his gloomy moniker by correctly calling the last bond bear market in the 1970s, and is now predicting another one, as Mr Trump will probably fire a massive slug of inflationary government spending and reshape the Federal Reserve in a hawkish way in the coming years.

“We have already seen a burst higher in long-term interest rates … I would say the secular trend is going to be upwards now,” he told the FT. “Secular swings are hard to forecast, but the secular sweep downwards in interest rates is over, and we are about to have a gentle swing upwards.”

He doubted that the Fed would allow bond yields to rise quickly or too high, given that global indebtedness remained elevated, but did not see much chance of them falling. “To get a move downwards would require a significant downshift in the economy, a recession, and I cannot see one coming,” he said.

The Fed’s main policymaking board is also likely to see a radical overhaul under president Trump, who has in the past claimed that the US central bank has kept interest rates low to bolster the outgoing Obama administration.

 
 
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