December 10, 2016

Motivated Sellers Willing To Look At All Offers

A report from CTV Vancouver in Canada. “Some Vancouver detached homes have sold for hundreds of thousands of dollars below asking, and there’s now proof the trend is in effect beyond the city’s borders as well. Prices appear to be dipping in other parts of the Metro area and Fraser Valley too, according to realtor Steve Saretsky. Saretsky called the dip in prices a ‘kickback,’ following a spike in list prices that left many priced out of Vancouver, Richmond and the North Shore. ‘It’s a totally different market. It’s crazy what can happen at overnight,’ Saretsky told CTV Vancouver. ‘We’ve gone from crazy bidding wars – basically anything would sell – and now it’s turning into a full-on buyers’ market.’”

“Saretsky said prices are especially low east of the city: ‘We’re seeing prices down roughly 15 per cent in most areas of the Fraser Valley, and it’s just getting started.’”

“In analyzing sales data available to realtors, he says South and North Surrey appear to be the ‘hardest hit’ by the price reductions, but that Langley is starting to be affected as well with the average sell price down 19 per cent in November compared to June. CTV News found a number of listings outside Vancouver hinting at desperations. A listing in Langley described ‘motivated sellers’ willing to ‘look at all offers.’”

From News 1130. “Secretive methods such as shell companies were used to buy nearly half of Vancouver’s most expensive properties, according to a new report from Transparency International. If you don’t know who owns a property, that can mean it’s easier for people to launder money or evade taxes, according to NDP housing critic David Eby, who supplied the documents used by the transparency watchdog for this report.”

“The documents show that 46 out of the priciest 100 Vancouver properties were bought under this shroud. ‘If we don’t know where the money’s coming from, we don’t know who brought it in, because it’s held by a company rather than the individual who actually owns it, we’re unable to enforce money laundering rules,’ says Eby.”

“On the plus side, there are jurisdictions with more loose laws in this regard. The report notes setting up an untraceable company is easier in Kenya.”

The Vancouver Sun. “The head of the CMHC recently came from the East to Vancouver to lecture residents about creating an ‘us against them’ attitude to foreign buyers, reports Postmedia’s Peter O’Neil. Canada Mortgage and Housing Corp. President Evan Siddall claimed studies by his federal government corporation show that only 2.2 per cent of condos in Metro Vancouver are owned by off-shore buyers in 2016, and 2.3 per cent in Toronto.”

“As the top bureaucrat chastized Vancouver city council and the region’s residents, there was a great deal, however, that Siddall was not telling his audience at the Vancouver Board of Trade. Was he trying to distract us from years of inaction by the CMHC on Metro Vancouver’s housing crisis?”

“He sounded much like the Vancouver developers who began in the 1990s to silence community groups by suggesting they’re xenophobic. Readers have been emailing The Sun to say how upset they are by Siddall’s moralistic insinuations. It looks as if we will have to add the CMHC to the long list of government departments that have failed the citizens of Metro Vancouver (and Toronto): The Canada Revenue Agency, Immigration Canada, Fintrac and the B.C. premier and her ministers responsible for housing. Siddall’s remarks reveal just how terribly out of touch Ottawa is with the crisis in Metro Vancouver.”

The Meridian Booster. “More than one-quarter of rental units in the Border City are vacant according to a report from the Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation. According to the report, the cooling economic climate which has washed over the energy market for the past number of years is now starting to show signs of leakage into other sectors of the economy, as vacancy numbers are growing in both provinces.”

“The vacancy rate for Lloydminster is resting around 25.4 per cent, up from 13.6 per cent in 2015, which is one of the highest numbers Lloydminster Economic Development CEO Ward Read has seen in around nine years. ‘Generally, we have had quite a low apartment vacancy and it shows the depth of the impact of the energy price and now it is flowing through to that sector of our economy,’ Read said.”

“Read also explained how the unfortunate timing which resulted from an increase in rental demand and a bump in supply, came just as we saw energy prices start to sink. ‘About two years back, there were two large complexes on the East and the West end of our city which opened up about 150 units in each complex,’ he said. ‘It is an unfortunate alignment of more supply and less demand happening, and those numbers have really kicked those numbers up higher than we have seen before,’ Read added.”




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Comment by Ben Jones
2016-12-10 10:42:32

‘add the CMHC to the long list of government departments that have failed the citizens of Metro Vancouver (and Toronto): The Canada Revenue Agency, Immigration Canada, Fintrac and the B.C. premier and her ministers’

What I’d like to know is there any government or industry body that has stood up to this mafia?

Comment by snake charmer
2016-12-10 17:44:54

No, because they’re likely in on it.

 
Comment by PitchforkPurveyor
2016-12-10 18:36:49

“What I’d like to know is there any government or industry body that has stood up to this mafia?”

Stood up to central bankers? Hellz to the no!

 
 
Comment by 2banana
2016-12-10 10:44:45

MERS…?

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“The documents show that 46 out of the priciest 100 Vancouver properties were bought under this shroud. ‘If we don’t know where the money’s coming from, we don’t know who brought it in, because it’s held by a company rather than the individual who actually owns it, we’re unable to enforce money laundering rules,’ says Eby.”

Comment by PitchforkPurveyor
2016-12-10 18:38:00

It seems like it’s working as designed!

 
 
Comment by Ben Jones
2016-12-10 10:47:26

‘The Ryan Mansion, one of the most famous homes in Newfoundland and Labrador, has been on the market for a month now, with a nibble here and there from potential buyers, but no sale. “There’s a couple of people who have been looking at it, no offers yet,” said Re/Max realtor Keith Bradbury, who is working the property and spoke with The Telegram.’

‘He acknowledged the luxury housing market is down right now, given the current state of the provincial economy, but also said the market is not entirely dead.’

‘It was built…between 1909 and 1911, as a home for Bonavista fish merchant and politician James Ryan. The grand staircase is perhaps the most famous of its features — made by the same designer and craftsmen as made the steps in the Titanic.’

‘The mansion is on the market for $1.25 million. ‘Given the current market conditions the property has been listed at a price considerably lower than a recent certified appraisal,’ Nolan told The Telegram.”

Comment by 2banana
2016-12-10 10:53:55

In Canada you need a government issued ID to vote.

Who would want to live in such a racist country…

 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2016-12-10 10:55:39

“Luxury housing” is going to be a wealth extraction bonanza for the tax man as municipal tax bases continue to deteriorate.

 
Comment by In Colorado
2016-12-10 11:39:54

The Ryan Mansion, one of the most famous homes in Newfoundland and Labrador

Who would want to live in that remote, frigid wasteland?

Comment by Blue Skye
2016-12-10 12:30:40

Fishermen and loggers?

Comment by tresho
2016-12-10 20:25:11

Overheated loners?

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Comment by azdude
2016-12-10 10:49:42

BUY LOW sell HIGH~

Comment by 2banana
2016-12-10 10:55:07

You get get a Hillary speech now for $250 and some pizza…

Comment by rms
2016-12-10 16:03:45

Rejoice that Koch, Soros, etc., aren’t getting any return on their graft.

 
 
Comment by Ben Jones
2016-12-10 11:29:33

Poet, Did you miss out on ANOTHER chance to lose your a$$?

‘Langley is starting to be affected as well with the average sell price down 19 per cent in November compared to June. CTV News found a number of listings outside Vancouver hinting at desperations. A listing in Langley described ‘motivated sellers’ willing to ‘look at all offers.’

Comment by azdude
2016-12-10 13:41:15

LMFAO I think you have missed another bull market!

Comment by The Enrager
2016-12-10 16:06:52

Your rage us showing.

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Comment by PitchforkPurveyor
2016-12-10 19:29:22

WOW, 19% price drop in 5 months! That is a staggering freefall for real estate, which is historically sticky on the way down. I don’t remember anywhere in the US logging such precipitous declines even at the worst of times. Oh, Canada!

 
 
 
Comment by 2banana
2016-12-10 11:02:31

The last decree of the Nobel Peace Prize tyrant…

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President Obama has issued a memo waiving restrictions on the provision of military equipment to rebel groups in Syria. Speaking to Radio Sputnik, Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity director Daniel McAdams slammed Obama for trying to reignite the war, just as things are starting to look up for the establishment of a lasting peace.

https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201612101048406117-us-weapons-waiver-daniel-mcadams-commentary/

Comment by rms
2016-12-10 19:50:04

Won’t be long before Russian aircraft begin falling from the sky. Technology.

 
 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2016-12-10 11:10:20

Um…does anyone know a single Trump voter who would’ve voted for Crooked Hillary with out without Russian “interference” (presumably referring to Wikileaks exposing DNC and Team Hillary corruption and sleaze that the MSM would’ve blacked out).

http://www.businessinsider.com/chuck-schumer-russia-election-trump-2016-12

Comment by 2banana
2016-12-10 11:19:24

Does obama encouraging illegals to vote count?

 
Comment by Ben Jones
2016-12-10 11:38:22

‘According to the Post, intelligence officials identified people with connections to the Russian government who they say handed thousands of hacked emails and other documents to WikiLeaks.’

No mention that what was in the emails was true.

I was thinking about the civil war stuff. Funny that when the south just tried to leave war broke out. Here’s my understanding: our system is determined by elections. If you lose, you can be in opposition and wait some years, put candidates up and have another go. Now I think we all agree to make an exception for California and Oregon. They can leave, like yesterday. But they have to take Nevada with them. So go. And if you ain’t got the courage, see above for how you proceed.

Comment by 2banana
2016-12-10 12:16:32

Liberals and progressive like to talk about Civil War and secession.

It would be incredible brutal on violent.

And who do they think has the guns or would fight for them? The FSA and illegals are only in it for the free shit. They ain’t about to go and die so rich white urban liberals can continue to live in their bubble.

And take California. The minute they would try secession, 75% of the rest of the state would secede from them. Taking all the food and water with them. Are the liberals going to force them to seceded with them at the point of a gun?

Welcome to Bosnia…

Comment by new attitude
2016-12-10 13:39:24

CA does not care if you stomp your little feet. Very light rain and 65 degrees today. Lots of cyclist on the road. Life is good.

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Comment by rms
2016-12-10 16:06:32

“Lots of cyclist on the road. Life is good.”

Envy.

 
Comment by palmetto
2016-12-10 19:00:28

“Very light rain and 65 degrees today. Lots of cyclist on the road. Life is good.”

Watch out for the strontium and plutonium in that rain!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-10/officials-admit-radioactive-fish-us-west-coast-have-disturbing-fingerprint-fukushima

Are ya hangin’ 12 yet?

 
Comment by LolasGreenShirt
2016-12-11 07:15:14

All of CA’s wonderfulness is now built on scams and fraud. Borrowed money and fake eyeballs/subscribers/revenue. Silicon Valley is for the most part an Internet bubble ponzi scheme soon to collapse.

Bicycle that down to the beach, but don’t get hit by the insane traffic.

 
 
Comment by scdave
2016-12-10 15:00:30

Liberals and progressive like to talk about Civil War and secessio

You mean like Texas ??

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Comment by new attitude
2016-12-10 17:41:08

+1

 
Comment by phony scandals
2016-12-10 18:29:40

“Liberals and progressive like to talk”

Yup they like to talk.

These Are The Celebrities Who Vowed To Leave America If Trump Wins

by Tyler Durden
Nov 9, 2016 8:25 PM

Singers

Cher tweeted this summer that if Trump gets elected, “I’m moving to Jupiter.”

Miley Cyrus wrote in an emotional Instagram post in March that tears were running down her cheek and she was unbelievably scared and sad. “I am moving if he is president,” the young pop star said. “I don’t say things I don’t mean!”

Barbara Streisand, a vocal Clinton supporter, told “60 Minutes” that “I’m either coming to your country if you’ll let me in, or Canada.”

Ne-Yo told TMZ last month that he’d move to Canada and be neighbors with fellow R&B singer Drake if the country elected Trump.

Comedians

Comedian Amy Schumer said in September that Spain would be her destination of choice.

“My act will change because I will need to learn to speak Spanish,” Schumer said in an appearance on the BBC’s “Newsnight.” “Because I will move to Spain or somewhere. It’s beyond my comprehension if Trump won. It’s just too crazy.”

Chelsea Handler said she already made contingency plans months ago.

“I did buy a house in another country just in case,” the comedian and talk show host said during an appearance on “Live with Kelly and Michael” in May. “So all these people that threaten to leave the country and then don’t — I actually will leave that country.”

Former “Daily Show” host Jon Stewart said he would consider “getting in a rocket and going to another planet, because clearly this planet’s gone bonkers” if the real estate mogul wins.

Whoopi Goldberg, co-host of the “The View”, said on an episode of the talk show earlier this year that if the country elects Trump, “maybe it’s time for me to move, you know. I can afford to go.”

Keegan-Michael Key said he would flee north to Canada. “It’s like, 10 minutes from Detroit,” the comedian told TMZ in January. “That’s where I’m from; my mom lives there. It’d make her happy too.”

Hispanic comedian George Lopez said Trump “won’t have to worry about immigration” if he takes the White House because “we’ll all go back.”
* * *
Political Figures

Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg joked in an interview with The New York Times in July that it’d be time to move to New Zealand if Trump were to win.

“Now it’s time for us to move to New Zealand,” she said quoting her husband who died in 2010. “I can’t imagine what the country would be with Donald Trump as our president. For the country, it could be four years. For the court, it could be — I don’t even want to contemplate that.”

Ginsburg later apologized for her comments, calling them “ill-advised.”

Civil rights activist Al Sharpton told a reporter earlier this year that he’s “reserving my ticket out of here if [Trump] wins.”

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-09/these-are-celebrities-who-vowed-leave-america-if-trump-wins

 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2016-12-10 18:43:59

Now they’ve all decided to stay here and “struggle.” For the children.

 
Comment by LolasGreenShirt
2016-12-11 08:59:23

And they need to quit spreading that lie that they are a net giver to the country. Counting all the illegals they are a massively broke taker.

 
 
 
Comment by palmetto
2016-12-10 13:31:07

‘According to the Post, intelligence officials identified people with connections to the Russian government who they say handed thousands of hacked emails and other documents to WikiLeaks.’

And this may be why “according to the Post”:

https://www.thenation.com/article/amazon-washington-post-and-600-million-cia-contract/

Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2016-12-10 19:41:16

Funny how nobody is disputing the truth of the leaked DNC e-mails revealing how corrupt and sleazy the Democrats and Team Hillary were.

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Comment by In Colorado
2016-12-10 11:42:53

Like I said the other day, it sure is funny how even though they stuffed the ballot box, had dead people and non citizens vote, Hillary still lost the election.

Comment by Blue Skye
2016-12-10 12:44:36

Funny maybe, but Fantastic for sure.

Comment by MightyMike
2016-12-10 13:22:19

yes, a fantasy it certainly is

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Comment by Blue Skye
2016-12-10 16:00:21

We’ve been hearing that Hillary lost the election. In real life.

 
Comment by Obama Goons
2016-12-10 16:09:03

Hillaryous was unelectable.

 
Comment by phony scandals
2016-12-10 16:39:26

The crowd love Donald Trump at the Army Navy game today, not only were they were cheering him but there wasn’t a Special Snowflake or Safe space in sight.

 
Comment by MightyMike
2016-12-10 18:19:08

The part about the votes from dead people and non-citizens is the fantasy.

 
Comment by MightyMike
2016-12-10 18:22:57

The crowd love Donald Trump at the Army Navy game today, not only were they were cheering him but there wasn’t a Special Snowflake or Safe space in sight.

The game took place in Baltimore. There were probably some people there not too pleased about Trump.

 
Comment by phony scandals
2016-12-10 18:38:16

Not inside the stadium.

 
Comment by MightyMike
2016-12-10 18:40:17

Maybe they just stayed quiet fearing the Trump people.

 
Comment by phony scandals
2016-12-10 20:19:27

The Cadets?

 
Comment by In Colorado
2016-12-10 20:58:09

“The part about the votes from dead people and non-citizens is the fantasy.”

How so? You don’t need to prove citizenship to register to vote. There is no doubt that non citizens vote. I recall more than a few non citizen MEChistas from my college days bragging about how they voted.

 
Comment by MightyMike
2016-12-10 21:30:00

There’s no evidence.

 
Comment by tj
2016-12-11 04:47:24

There’s no evidence.”

http://www.immigration911.org/news/2012/04/alarming-evidence-shows-how-easy-illegal-aliens-can-vote-in-the-usa/

excerpt: “This video verifies the existence of the voting loophole in this country that will allow virtually anyone to vote in our elections. Whether Americans are willing to listen to the Obama administration and ignore its existence because it does not draw attention to itself, is yet to be determined.”

 
Comment by phony scandals
2016-12-11 06:09:49

“Maybe they just stayed quiet fearing the Trump people.”

TRUMP CHEERED BY FANS AT ANNUAL ARMY-NAVY GAME

BY KEN THOMAS
ASSOCIATED PRESS
Dec 10, 6:41 PM EST

BALTIMORE (AP) — Donald Trump was greeted with cheers on his arrival at the annual Army-Navy game on Saturday, basking in one of the nation’s most storied football rivalries as he prepares to enter the White House.

 
Comment by MightyMike
2016-12-11 09:17:47

There’s no evidence that illegal voting occurred this year.

 
Comment by LolasGreenShirt
2016-12-11 09:18:03

The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Also there is plenty of evidence for anyone who cares to look. And there’s gonna be a whole lot more as this is dug into over the next 8 years. Easy to do running various database lists against each other. Permanent D supermajority wishers no longer control that data to prevent the truth from outing like Lola on a mango.

 
Comment by MightyMike
2016-12-11 09:18:59

Donald Trump was greeted with cheers

So that must mean that every single person in the stadium cheered and no one was quiet.

 
Comment by MightyMike
2016-12-11 09:20:13

The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

I never said that it was. There’s no evidence that illegal immigrants voted this year.

 
Comment by tj
2016-12-11 09:41:33

The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Also there is plenty of evidence for anyone who cares to look. And there’s gonna be a whole lot more as this is dug into over the next 8 years. Easy to do running various database lists against each other. Permanent D supermajority wishers no longer control that data to prevent the truth from outing like Lola on a mango.

every sentence you wrote is true. in addition, many illegals have bragged about voting illegally.

and in addition to that, before the next midterms, the voter registrations are going to cleaned of dead people. plus, voter ID is slowly starting to be implemented in many states and won’t end until all have voter ID laws in place.

the poor libs are going to have to start fighting in fair elections. i can already see their sweet little tears..

 
Comment by tj
2016-12-11 09:44:33

There’s no evidence that illegal immigrants voted this year.

plenty have bragged about voting.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Neuromance
2016-12-10 12:04:42

So the Russians purportedly influenced the election by exposing truth (the emails).

Saudis and other influence the government by copious donations to shell organizations linked to politicians.

European politicians howl against Trump. Is that also influencing the election?

Comment by 2banana
2016-12-10 12:28:58

And the 100s of millions of dollars of foriegn “donations” to the Clinton Foundstion had no influece at all

Fake….legacy….media…

Comment by Blue Skye
2016-12-10 12:47:02

It will be interesting to see if Obama gets the $250 million standup comedy gigs after he leaves office, or not.

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Comment by MightyMike
2016-12-10 19:36:47

I just read this about Rudy Giuliani after he gave up running for president.

What do you do after that? You’re done. You go off and make a lot of money with your security-consulting business working for the pharmaceutical company that makes OxyContin in a wrangle with the Justice Department, and the government of Qatar. You give a jillion paid speeches — in 2006 alone, the Times reported, he gave 124 speeches and raked in $11.4 million. The most infamous of these have been to groups affiliated with the Mujahedeen-e-Khalq, the Iranian opposition group that was named a terrorist organization by the U.S. government until 2012 and that advocates regime change today. All that has worked nicely in financial terms — the man’s net worth today is estimated at $45 million.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/12/rudy-giulianis-moral-decline-isnt-such-a-mystery-at-all.html

 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2016-12-10 19:42:54

Rudy Giuliani is a Class A Douchebag.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Vancouver Guy
2016-12-10 11:32:54

Oh my god, how sweet the karma is. I can almost taste the sweet tears of the sellers. I can’t remember how many times sellers were offendedu by buyers offering asking prices.

Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2016-12-10 16:35:26

It’s the idiot buyers who enabled these asset bubbles with their greed and entitlement who I want to see suffer. They priced housing out of reach of the prudent…now it’s payback time.

 
 
Comment by Vancouver Guy
2016-12-10 11:46:38

The outright snobbery of the “owners” has become so unbearable in the last 10 years as the bubble inflated, that it was getting harder to bear each day. Each new valuation exposed deeper and deeper character flaws of the giddy “owners”. Even today the news describing the nascent crash hopes to crush the would be buyers hopes stating that home ownership will stay a dream because of the massive price increases, not realizing it is the owners who are holding the hot potato this time around. Bring on the crash, sellers need to be taken down humility alley for a good thorough financial ass raping.

 
Comment by Neuromance
2016-12-10 12:07:42

Institutionalize corruption, and don’t be surprised when you get institutionalized corruption.

“Yet one of the reasons why Mr Greenspan became Fed chairman was that the Reagan administration wanted to get rid of Mr Volcker, who “continued to believe that the alleged advantages of financial modernisation paled next to the risks of financial hubris.”

Yet Mr Greenspan also held a fear and a hope. His fear was that participants in the financial game would always be too far ahead of the government’s referees and that the regulators would always fail. His hope was that “when risk management did fail, the Fed would clean up afterwards.”

http://www.economist.com/news/books-and-arts/21707908-was-alan-greenspan-blame-financial-crisis-man-dock

 
Comment by taxpayers
2016-12-10 13:15:39

If u r a taxpayer foreign non per mmm s nbg ent home owners are a beautiful thing. See seasonal beach areas for results
Super low taxes

 
Comment by taxpayers
2016-12-10 13:16:51

Whoops ,non permanent

 
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Comment by new attitude
2016-12-10 13:36:52

Looks like this mooching wont end anytime soon.

ExxonMobil, BP, ConocoPhillips, Chevron and Shell — receive a combined $4 billion in tax breaks each year.

Comment by aNYCdj
2016-12-10 13:51:05

eliminate the corporate income tax well there wont be any more tax breaks if you dont pay any. problem solved.

Comment by new attitude
2016-12-10 14:14:53

Have you seen our credit card bill? Wars, walls, deportations, tariffs are not free.

Did you read what Kansas did? Kansas’ Experiment in Right-Wing Economics Is Still Failing Miserably–Under the leadership of Brownback and one of the most conservative legislatures in America, Kansas dramatically slashed the tax rates of Kansas’ wealthy and its corporations. According to ideology, the cuts should have jumpstarted Kansas’ economy and led to rapid growth that created jobs and helped the tax cuts pay for themselves. Of course, nothing of the sort happened.

http://washingtonmonthly.com/2016/07/03/kansas-experiment-in-right-wing-economics-is-still-failing-miserably/

got popcorn?

 
 
Comment by 2banana
2016-12-10 14:11:02

Companies and people keeping more of the money they EARNED is a good thing.

It something progressives never seem understand.

It is NOT government’s money.

Giving money to illegals, muslim immigrants and unions through car company bailouts is welfare to buy votes. They never EARNED the money.

The freight train is coming.

God bless DJT.

Comment by MightyMike
2016-12-10 14:33:48

Companies and people keeping more of the money they EARNED is a good thing.

In other words, deficits don’t matter.

Comment by 2banana
2016-12-10 14:40:26

On other words…

It is NOT your money.

Cut spending and live within your means.

I know that makes progressive tears not being able to buy as many votes…

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Comment by MightyMike
2016-12-10 18:25:15

No, raise taxes. Live within means that way. Start by raising taxes on those who claimed that deficits don’t matter.

 
Comment by LolasGreenShirt
2016-12-11 09:33:05

The Wall pays for itself in saved welfare, healthcare, and prison costs.

 
Comment by tj
2016-12-11 09:45:35

No, raise taxes.

no, lower spending.

 
 
 
Comment by new attitude
2016-12-10 17:39:59

Did you read what Kansas did? Kansas’ Experiment in Right-Wing Economics Is Still Failing Miserably–Under the leadership of Brownback and one of the most conservative legislatures in America, Kansas dramatically slashed the tax rates of Kansas’ wealthy and its corporations. According to ideology, the cuts should have jumpstarted Kansas’ economy and led to rapid growth that created jobs and helped the tax cuts pay for themselves. Of course, nothing of the sort happened.

http://washingtonmonthly.com/2016/07/03/kansas-experiment-in-right-wing-economics-is-still-failing-miserably/

 
 
 
Comment by Overbanked
Comment by new attitude
2016-12-10 14:12:02

With Exxon now our secretary of state, the wars for oil will not stop, nor with the spending.

Comment by 2banana
2016-12-10 14:38:03

Hopefully they won’t follow the lead of what a community organizer who never had a job did…

Trillion dollars yearly deficits…

Adding more to the debt than every other administration combined and accounting for inflation…

Wars everywhere. Iraq. Libya. Syria. Iraq. Yemen…

Boasting how good he is at killing people…

 
 
Comment by 2banana
2016-12-10 14:17:01

Yes. Time for them to lead.

The democrats will accuse them of wanting to starve kids, kicking grandma out into the streets and wanting to put blacks back in chains.

But that is what democrats do.

Comment by MightyMike
2016-12-10 14:35:38

only when it’s true

Comment by Blue Skye
2016-12-10 16:23:25

I think the bedwetters are angry about Trump’s staff picks because they might possibly be successful. I am just guessing of course, but why else would they wail and moan about a pick that would be just fine to them under their own Hildabanner.

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Comment by butters
2016-12-10 16:47:07

hey might possibly be successful

Nah….politics as usual. Nobody can be successful managing or leading this behemoth called US empire.

 
Comment by new attitude
2016-12-10 18:13:57

We want him to fail ( or succeed at breaking it) I thought, we want the mother of all crashes after this 8 yr Obama bubble–dont we? We want deals!!

 
Comment by MightyMike
2016-12-10 18:21:23

I think the bedwetters are angry about Trump’s staff picks because they might possibly be successful.

Yeah, people are worried that they’ll be successful at starving kids, kicking grandma out into the streets, etc.

 
Comment by LolasGreenShirt
2016-12-11 09:37:26

The MightyMikes of the world can do without their Obamaphones. And it’s been the Ds that have sentenced multiple generations of poor inner city kids to the endless cycle of broken home poverty.

 
Comment by tj
2016-12-11 09:50:49

Yeah, people are worried that they’ll be successful at starving kids, kicking grandma out into the streets, etc.

virtue signaling mikey is holier than everyone else. you post nothing but vacuous drivel trying to show everyone that you’re ‘concerned’ or ‘good’.

the problem that it’s so false it can only be believed by a brain dead liberal. you might at least try posting something believable sometime.

 
Comment by MightyMike
2016-12-11 09:52:29

poor inner city kids

The fascination with big cities remains strong.

 
Comment by tj
2016-12-11 10:04:20

The fascination with big cities remains strong.

your fascination with denial remains strong.

 
Comment by MightyMike
2016-12-11 10:29:33

virtue signaling mikey is holier than everyone else. you post nothing but vacuous drivel trying to show everyone that you’re ‘concerned’ or ‘good’.

the problem that it’s so false it can only be believed by a brain dead liberal. you might at least try posting something believable sometime.

That’s false. I post lost if useful information, along my with my own insightful analysis. the occasional Republican here will break down and agree. Others just supply crickets. None of it has nothing to do with virtue signaling. All of us, other than Ben Jones, are anonymous to each other.

 
Comment by tj
2016-12-11 10:42:31

I post lost if useful information, along my with my own insightful analysis.

you post pure drivel.

the occasional Republican here will break down and agree.”

very rarely, and usually misguided.

Others just supply crickets.”

they just know you’re a hopeless cause, mikey.

None of it has nothing to do with virtue signaling.”

keeping believing mikey. it’s the only way you can live with yourself.

All of us, other than Ben Jones, are anonymous to each other.”

board identities have to have a moniker mikey. even if they’re easily changeable.

 
 
 
 
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Comment by 2banana
2016-12-10 14:43:20

God bless DJT.

And democrats tears are delicious.

 
 
 
Comment by MightyMike
2016-12-10 14:42:30

Free-market Republicans contort to defend Trump

Lawmakers who slammed Barack Obama’s stimulus say they’re fine with Trump’s — among other ideological accommodations they’re making for the president-elect.

By RACHAEL BADE and JAKE SHERMAN 12/09/16 01:33 PM EST

Back in 2009, when Barack Obama was pleading with Congress to rescue a cratering economy, Rep. Doug Lamborn (R-Colo.) blasted the new president’s multi-hundred-billion stimulus package as a “waste” and “more of the same from Washington Democrats still bent on spending their way out of the recession.”

Now Donald Trump is eyeing his own, very pricey public works program and telling Time Magazine “sometimes you have to prime the pump” — the exact turn of phrase Obama used to defend his own view of government stimulus. And Capitol Hill Republicans like Lamborn are suddenly singing a very different tune.

“If it’s very well considered, like expanding an airport that’s become a jammed bottleneck, or deepening a port because it can’t take in all the shipping that it wants to … there are [projects] like that that would make sense to examine and perhaps improve through a stimulus and infrastructure package,” he told POLITICO.

To understand the spell Trump has cast on the Republican Party, just listen to the members of the House Republican Conference these days: The same gang that made slashing spending their singular cause in Congress are now entertaining — and in many cases embracing — the president-elect’s pitch to pump billions into the economy in the form of a massive infrastructure package.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/trump-free-market-republicans-stimulus-232387

Comment by 2banana
2016-12-10 15:05:26

Back in 2009…

Obama had a super majority in the house

Obama had a filibuster proof senate

He could and did pass legislation without a SINGLE republican vote.

And he did.

Was that unpatriotic?

Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2016-12-10 16:33:05

Obama promised hope n’ change. How’d that work out for ya, ‘Murica?

 
Comment by new attitude
2016-12-10 17:45:27

Bush (handed a surplus) had a super majority, we got deficits, a recession, 10% unemployment and wars for oil.

good try. your gop sucks even worse.

Comment by In Colorado
2016-12-10 21:03:02

Bush sucked. Trump destroyed their dynasty.

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Comment by Overbanked
2016-12-10 17:53:11

Good For Thee But Not For Me

 
Comment by MightyMike
2016-12-10 18:17:50

Was that unpatriotic?

The issue has nothing to do with patriotism or its absence.

 
 
Comment by new attitude
2016-12-10 17:49:30

never trust a neo-con, they love to spend, spend, spend. See Reagan (tripled the deficit) and Bush (doubled it).

Comment by palmetto
2016-12-10 18:30:49

meh, Reagan. He meant well, but not the sharpest tool in the shed. I cringe every time a Republican trots out his name, like he was some sort of patron saint. Best thing about him, he wasn’t Carter. I’m just glad Trump didn’t invoke his name much. And when he did, it was sort of half-hearted.

Thanks for the shamnasty, St. Ronnie!

Comment by MightyMike
2016-12-10 18:36:33

Trump’s cabinet choice indicate that he’s probably going to be a lot like Reagan.

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Comment by palmetto
2016-12-10 18:52:15

How so?

 
Comment by new attitude
2016-12-10 18:58:41

Reagan? The guy who created the Taliban,sold weapons to Muslims illegally and tripled the deficit. yikes! and of course: trickle down econ???

 
Comment by palmetto
2016-12-10 19:02:42

And he was from…wait for it…California! Star Wars!

 
Comment by MightyMike
2016-12-10 19:07:11

His EPA guy is in the pocket of the oil industry, bringing back memories of James Watt. He Dept. of Labor choice wants a large portion of all workers to live in poverty. Trump himself wants big tax cuts, which will mostly benefit the wealthy. Along with infrastructure plan and his interest in military spending, that’ll drive up the deficit.

Then there’s that Twitter attack on the union leader, reminiscent of Reagan’s assault on PATCO at the beginning of his administration.

 
Comment by MightyMike
2016-12-10 19:12:16

And he was from…wait for it…California! Star Wars!

He was originally from Illinois, just like Hillary. Isn’t that interesting?

 
Comment by palmetto
2016-12-10 19:14:03

I remember the PATCO dust-up. I certainly wouldn’t compare it to the Twitter takedown of the union guy. He was probably right to tell the guy to work more and talk less. “Reduce dues!”

 
Comment by MightyMike
2016-12-10 19:23:06

He probably has no idea how much the dues are.

 
Comment by tj
2016-12-10 19:25:29

“He Dept. of Labor choice wants a large portion of all workers to live in poverty.

yes, every sane man’s dream.

do you know how nuts you sound?

Trump himself wants big tax cuts, which will mostly benefit the wealthy.”

a good economy will help the poor the most.

Along with infrastructure plan and his interest in military spending, that’ll drive up the deficit.”

if the economy improves, tax revenues increase.

Then there’s that Twitter attack on the union leader, reminiscent of Reagan’s assault on PATCO at the beginning of his administration.”

good move on his part.

 
Comment by MightyMike
2016-12-10 19:27:55

do you know how nuts you sound?

sensible and well-informed

 
Comment by palmetto
2016-12-10 19:38:35

“Isn’t that interesting?”

No.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by rms
2016-12-10 15:54:20

Gotta love those Motivated Sellers… working on one right now on eBay. Hehe.

Comment by palmetto
2016-12-10 16:44:11

Didja give ‘em a low ball offer?

Comment by rms
2016-12-10 17:15:26

Indeed, and I want faster shipping too. :)

Comment by palmetto
2016-12-10 18:26:07

Well, did they go for it? Or are ya still waiting?

I’m watching something right now, haven’t pulled the trigger yet and made an offer. It’s more of a want, not a need for me.

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Comment by rms
2016-12-10 19:04:06

Well, did they go for it? Or are ya still waiting?

Still waiting. We’re past denial, so now it’s the anger stage. I’m not going to bug him this weekend, but come Monday…

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by new attitude
2016-12-10 18:15:45

Another odd decision -

Stalwart Donald Trump supporter Newt Gingrich has denounced the president-elect’s decision to continue as executive producer of the reality show “The New Celebrity Apprentice” when he’s in office.

“I think it’s weird. It’s weird. I don’t think it’s relevant,” he told Fox News on Friday.

“He is going to be the executive producer of the American government and a huge TV show called ‘Leading the World.’”

Gingrich suggested Trump turn the program over to his three eldest children. “He ought to just relax, give the executive producer to Eric or Donald or Ivanka. I think he is still going through some transition things here where it hasn’t quite sunk in totally,” he added.

 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2016-12-10 18:27:39

Anytime neocon “think tanks” like the RAND Corporation or Heritage Foundation start claiming our military is on the brink of collapse, get ready for a multi-trillion-dollar spending spree for the MIC, followed by more neocon regime-change adventurism.

http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/u-s-military-on-the-brink-of-collapse/

Comment by new attitude
2016-12-10 18:55:44

Will Trump be fooled by them and go along with the spending of money we dont have?

Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2016-12-10 19:11:20

I don’t know. I keep hearing about a $5.3 trillion dollar “fiscal stimulus” for infrastructure - we don’t have that money, either.

 
Comment by Overbanked
2016-12-10 19:32:05

Who’s zoomin’ who?

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2016-12-11 07:55:46
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Comment by phony scandals
2016-12-11 06:20:30

What song is this and which line did I change?

Hello,
Is there anybody in there?
Just nod if you can hear me.
Is there anyone at home?

Come on now
I hear you’re feeling down
Well, I can ease your pain
And get you on your feet again

Relax
I’ll need some information first
Just the basic facts
Do you know what the Electoral College is?

Comment by Carl Morris
2016-12-12 12:45:04

I have become…electorally numb.

 
 
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