March 23, 2012

The Real Estate Extravaganza That Shook The World

It’s Friday desk clearing time for this blogger. “Hundreds of home buyers lined up to buy new condo units in the Marine Gateway project on Saturday morning. Within just four hours, all 415 units were sold. Many buyers had set up camp as early as Thursday night. Tracie McTavish, president of Rennie Marketing Systems, said such a high number of potential buyers has not been seen in Vancouver since 2006. Completion is expected in 2015.”

“Stephen Tse, from Vancouver, only found out about the sale on Saturday morning. He managed to snag the very last unit, and intends to live in it after he retires. ‘This morning, I got my newspaper, looked at it, it was a good location, and I rushed down here,’ he said, adding that it only took him five minutes to make a decision. ‘By that time, you only have one unit left, you either take it or leave it.’”

“Where the Gardiner Expressway meets Bathurst St., the development known as Garrison at the Yards now stands about seven storeys tall, giving passersby a clear view of just how cosy it is with the highway. Even with some units that Barry Fenton, CEO of Lanterra Developments says are a ‘tire’s throw’ away from the expressway, Lanterra’s Ice Condominiums sold out in five months. Fenton and many other Toronto real estate agents believe most of the units are purchased as investment properties — by people who don’t always see them before they buy — and then rented out to young professionals who don’t spend much time at home.”

“Gordie Wong bought his 600-square-foot unit four years ago for $253,000. The rail corridor doesn’t bother Wong because he can’t hear the trains over the incessant tha-dunk tha-dunk of traffic zipping over a seam in the expressway. ‘For some ludicrous reason, I bought it,’ said Wong, standing on the balcony of his seventh-floor condo as rush-hour traffic roars by.”

“From being awash in unsold condos and foreclosures, Miami’s downtown has morphed into a thriving mecca of bustling sales activity, a new report says. ‘Global investors, real estate investment trusts, and private equity are tripping over themselves to invest in Miami,’ says Neisen Kasdin, vice chair of the Miami Downtown Development Authority.”

“Alicia Cervera Lamadrid, managing partner of Miami-based Cervera Real Estate, agrees. ‘Our buyers are as international as our city is,’ she says. ‘We have a strong influence from South and Central America, and a few customers from Europe and the Far East. Canadians are increasingly coming south to Miami and buying more expensive product as a result of the currency.’”

“Five years ago Chris received a call from his home lender. His normal payment of $520 was now going up to $2,500. It was a payment he could not make. So, a judge told him he had move out within six months. Chris said he has never tried to live outside of his means or take out a loan he couldn’t handle. Chris says he knew his loan rate would eventually go up but he says he was never notified. Now he has the mark of foreclosure. ‘It just felt like i was violated’ he said.’

“‘People buy a house and they put 5% down and the value of the home goes down 10% and they are upside down,’ said David Fitzgerald, president of the Realtors Association of Northwest Wisconsin. ‘And if they’re in a position to sell they are looking at a foreclosure or short sale situation.’”

“Consumer advocates are calling for relief after more than 14,000 Maryland families learned in January they may lose their homes. Outside Wells Fargo Bank in downtown Baltimore, Roger Williams said his mortgage fell behind three payments in 2009, and he never got a final loan modification. Now, he just wants his original loan reset. Williams explained both his frustration and his resolve. ‘I don’t want to give up my home. I’m not giving up my home,’ said Williams, of Jarrettsville. ‘To me, I’ve given them tens of thousands of interest payments as a service charge. Now, give me some service here,’ Williams said.”

“A Coon Rapids couple are fighting to save their home from foreclosure. Frank and Kristina Clark hosted a ‘Foreclosure Free Barbeque’ at their home Saturday. The barbeque was the first of several public events planned by the Clarks and Occupy Minnesota. The Clarks purchased their Coon Rapids home in 2006 for $230,000 with a conventional, 30-year fixed rate mortgage through the Bank of America. According to Kristina Clark, they made their monthly payments on time until the summer of 2009 when the economic recession hit and Frank’s hours were reduced.”

“‘We were paying $1,538 a month before, but after the modification we had to pay $1,662 a month,’ she said. ‘What we want is for the bank to negotiate in good faith. We don’t want anything free, but something affordable to keep us in the house.’”

“Cynthia Spratt, a single mother of two, is one of thousands of New Jersey homeowners who have watched as what was supposed to be their most valuable assets — their homes — lose so much ground that it is virtually worthless to them. She bought her home in 2007 near the peak of the housing market. ‘There’s no way I could turn around and sell my house,’ said Spratt, 37. ‘I would walk away from this house with almost nothing to put down on the next house.’”

“Before the housing bubble, a house was ‘forced savings,’ said Jordan Celkupa, a financial planner in Red Bank. ‘You borrowed a chunk of money. You paid the mortgage off. And then, magically, you owned this big asset,’ Celkupa said.”

“Dozens of community activists and several city supervisors today called for a suspension of foreclosures — rallying around a resolution by Supervisor John Avalos to stop local foreclosures and support the California Homeowner Bill of Rights. The rally on City Hall steps, organized by Occupy Bernal Heights and the Alliance of Californians for Community Empowerment (ACCE, formerly known as ACORN) featured several ‘foreclosure fighters,’ residents who are on the verge of losing their homes.”

“Avalos, whose own family home is ‘under water about $100,000,’ said the foreclosures are not only wrecking communities, they are undermining the future of a whole generation. ‘Our property is our wealth,’ he said. ‘This is how we pay for our kids going to college, how we pay for our medical care.’”

“Property information group RP Data said that 6.4 per cent of homes were valued at less than their purchase price in the December 2011 quarter, rising from 4.9 per cent of the market in the September quarter. New home owners fared the worst in the report with those owning a home between one and two years, holding about 27 per cent of the total of properties affected in the December quarter.”

“‘Since late 2010, the Australian housing market has been quite weak with home values falling by 5.5 per cent across the combined capital cities since the market peaked,’ the report said. ‘Buyers who purchased a home since this time have in many instances seen the value of their home move below their contract price.’”

“RP Data showed that Far North Queensland had the highest proportion of mortgages in negative equity, at 22 per cent, followed by Gold Coast, with 19.4 per cent in the quarter. Sunshine Coast was in the third spot at 15.3 per cent.The Reserve Bank warned last month that falling home prices tend to increase the rate of late payments on mortgages, especially in a recession with rising unemployment. The RBA also urged lenders to maintain high lending criteria to avoid a US-style housing bust.”

“A huge statue of the mighty warrior Genghis Khan presides over Genghis Khan Plaza in Ordos New Town. Only one element is missing from this vast ensemble - people. Most of the new town buildings are empty or unfinished. The rampant apartment blocks are full of unsold flats. If you want to find a place where China’s huge housing bubble has already burst, then Ordos is the place to come. And it is merely the most spectacular example of a new Chinese phenomenon, in many cities - unsold flats, unlet shops, empty office blocks.”

“It looks to outsiders as though the great Chinese building boom is over, the real estate extravaganza that shook the world. Western financial experts who fear a bursting of the Chinese real estate bubble point out that the Chinese economy is more dependent on house building than the United States economy was.”

“Mr Li had prospered when the local council bought up the land on which his family’s shop had been located. He invested the compensation with local private financiers. Mr Li’s private financier naturally invested the money in property, and paid him interest every three months at the rate of about 40% a year. Mr Li had put the equivalent of over $1m (just over £600,000) into such schemes. For two years they paid out, but last year the interest payments began to dry up. Then one of the financiers disappeared.”

“This has become a very familiar story in China now, one that is making big headlines as some famously rich private finance people come up for trial on charge of huge financial irregularity. At least half of Mr Li’s money now seems to have disappeared. As a Mongolian, he told me he was very angry when it happened last year. But now his mood has changed to a curious, fatalistic resignation, quite unlike Genghis Khan. ‘Once we were rich, and now we’re poor again,’ said Mr Li, with something like a wry grin.”




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Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-03-23 05:49:16

“Avalos, whose own family home is ‘under water about $100,000,’ said the foreclosures are not only wrecking communities, they are undermining the future of a whole generation. ‘Our property is our wealth,’ he said. ‘This is how we pay for our kids going to college, how we pay for our medical care.’”

Somebody missed the memo about how the housing bubble popped back in 2006.

Comment by Ben Jones
2012-03-23 08:12:10

Well, if there is a general sense of entitlement in the US, many Californians have delusions of entitlement. I’ve seen this for years; buy a house in the Bay area and your set for life. Hell, in their world you don’t even have to sell the house to get all these things. Refi every year, buy a car, send your kid to a private school, and still live in the house!

I don’t know how delusion could get any deeper. IMO California is just a place. And given the population of idjits like this one, I wouldn’t want to share in the tax bill or other collective decisions.

‘A group of more than 40 people defied stormy weather and held a vigil on the steps of San Rafael City Hall last week — right where foreclosed homes are auctioned off every day. Marin homeowner Jenna LaFleur joined the group holding a sign, ‘Wells Fargo is selling my home, but they don’t own it,’ referring to the legality of the foreclosure sales.’

‘For every nine Marin workers who earn less than $30,000 per year, there is only one Marin home in their price range ($500 to $749 rent per month). But at the other end of the scale (salaries of $60,000 to $80,000), Marin has a surplus of rental choices ($1,500 to $1,999 per month).’

April 2007. ‘A prominent real-estate economist predicts that troubles will persist in the California housing sector throughout the year, but she said Marin’s unique market is weathering the downturn better than other areas. ‘It’s God’s country, what can I say,’ (said) Leslie Appleton-Young, chief economist for the California Association of Realtors. ‘When is the 30 percent decline in Marin County’s market going to happen? Not in my lifetime.’

‘Marin’s foreclosure activity nearly doubled in the fourth quarter of last year. By comparison, notices of default were up 134 percent in the nine-county Bay Area over the same period, DataQuick reported. Statewide, default notices increased 145 percent year-over-year. In Merced, Placer and Santa Barbara counties, the increase exceeded 250 percent.’

‘Recent foreclosure activity has apparently been brisk in Marin. According to Yahoo, dozens of foreclosures have been listed in Marin in the past two weeks alone. Local real estate agents said they were encouraged by Appleton-Young’s talk. Vicki Buckle-Clark, an agent with Pacific Union in Greenbrae, described the market as ‘extremely unique.’

‘We can’t be lumped together with all the California statistics and the nationwide statistics,’ she said.’

Comment by Lisa
2012-03-23 10:19:12

Oh yes, Marin, where I’ve lived since 1996. I was one of the lucky ones, bought then and sold in 2005. Happily renting here since.

The subject of home ownership seems to have been taken out of polite conversation, at least in my neck of the woods. I know so many people who are stuck, can’t trade up for a larger family home, or trade over or trade down without taking a substantial loss.

In my neighborhood alone, I’ve seen 2 bedroom cottages go from $900K at the peak to low $500K’s, and still not selling after many months on the market. The local Marin IJ continues to pump out the kool aid. Market is showing signs of recovery, blah, blah. It’s only a matter of time before values “recover.”

I keep hearing the RE market these days is first time buyers and investors, but how long before those two groups run out of juice?

Comment by snake charmer
2012-03-23 13:59:35

They’d run out of juice the instant the federal government stopped guaranteeing home mortgages.

I have never in my lifetime seen so many simultaneously unsustainable things around the world. The issue is no longer whether the global economy is going to have a “hard landing.” It is. The issue is whether human society is going to have a hard landing.

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Comment by rms
2012-03-24 08:11:41

They’d run out of juice the instant the federal government stopped guaranteeing home mortgages.

+1 Ditto for housing along California’s coastline.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Jerry
2012-03-23 10:29:49

Still popping! Going down for several more years as incomes go down and the large hedge funds buyers start unloading their houses in “bulk” which they purchase from the shadow inventorys from the banks at 30 cents on the dollar. What is this going to do for prices? Take a wild guess!

 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-03-23 05:51:26

Interesting to read about famously rich private finance people coming up for trial on charge of huge financial irregularity.

Too bad the story is about China, not America.

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-03-23 05:52:45

“It looks to outsiders as though the great Chinese building boom is over, the real estate extravaganza that shook the world. Western financial experts who fear a bursting of the Chinese real estate bubble point out that the Chinese economy is more dependent on house building than the United States economy was.”

Not to worry, as they had no subprime lending in China — right?!

Comment by Jojo
2012-03-23 09:04:31

Right. The Chinese economy may be more dependent on property construction than the US was, but its banking system is far less dependent on it than US banks were.

 
Comment by Dave of the North
2012-03-23 11:33:21

“Most of the new town buildings are empty or unfinished. The rampant apartment blocks are full of unsold flats. If you want to find a place where China’s huge housing bubble has already burst, then Ordos is the place to come. And it is merely the most spectacular example of a new Chinese phenomenon, in many cities - unsold flats, unlet shops, empty office blocks.”

I read somewhere that in China 30,000,000 people live in caves. Couldn’t they just move into all these nice new vacant places….:-)

Comment by Ben Jones
2012-03-23 11:41:06

It’s Mongolia. I might prefer a cave.

They did said these empty cities are not uncommon. Problem is, the developers, and their lenders, need someone to pay for it.

 
 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-03-23 05:56:38

“Stephen Tse, from Vancouver, only found out about the sale on Saturday morning. He managed to snag the very last unit, and intends to live in it after he retires. ‘This morning, I got my newspaper, looked at it, it was a good location, and I rushed down here,’ he said, adding that it only took him five minutes to make a decision. ‘By that time, you only have one unit left, you either take it or leave it.’”

Other than the setting, and the absence of the tailwinds of a hurricane to sex up the story, it could have been about Florida condo investing circa Summer 2005.

Comment by In Colorado
2012-03-23 06:05:15

What made me laugh about Mr. Tse’s remark is that I put in about 20 times more thought before I bought a new TV last year.

There’s no bubble in Vancouver … sure.

Comment by Ben Jones
2012-03-23 06:16:55

Yeah, and camping out for condos? Haven’t seen that for a while.

How do you sell 400 units in 4 hours? I kinda doubt these people read what they were signing.

Comment by ProperBostonian
2012-03-23 07:08:22

Completion is expected in 2015. Stay tuned for a further episode of half-built condos and buyer lawsuits.

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Comment by Jim A
2012-03-23 12:38:24

And when they’re completed, we’ll have a rerun of the “impossible choice.” http://thehousingbubbleblog.com/?p=4224

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Comment by ProperBostonian
2012-03-23 14:56:30

This is a great idea for next weekend’s topic. We could play the Linkback to Stupidity Game. How to play:

1. Find a good example of stupidity like Canadians buying into unbuilt, overpriced condos in Vancouver.
2. Find a good example of stupidity from our own bubble, like the one Jim found from the 2008 posting of Residences at Midtown in Palm Beach Gardens. It lost 50% of its pre-built value and the developer gave the buyer an impossible choice: Lose $200,000 at closing, or walk away from your $80,000 deposit.

The HBB is full of such treasures. Although we don’t have anything to match the stupidity of the empty cities in China.

 
 
 
Comment by ProperBostonian
2012-03-23 07:14:49

Yep, no bubble, look at this comment to the article:

“there will be plenty more condos going up… go learn about economics before you comment!”

 
 
Comment by DudgeonBludgeon
2012-03-23 08:21:23

‘This morning, I got my newspaper, looked at it, it was a good location, and I rushed down here,’ he said, adding that it only took him five minutes to make a decision. ‘By that time, you only have one unit left, you either take it or leave it.’

Bwaahahahhahhahha!!!!!

So, is Vancouver at its peak?

 
Comment by snake charmer
2012-03-23 14:04:21

You read something like this, and despair. No one learns anything anymore. Stephen Tse just fell into his own financial grave. But he doesn’t realize he’s falling. He thinks he’s flying.

Comment by Carl Morris
2012-03-23 18:45:09

He’s falling…with style.

 
 
 
Comment by Realtors Are Liars®
2012-03-23 06:01:28

Over the years with all the incentivization(token one time “gifts” like homedebtor tax credits) to get people to commit financial suicide and buy house, why is it that price and interest rates are never part of the discussion? How about zero interest money? How about a lower principal amount BEFORE the transaction occurs? As we all know, 4% on any principal over a multi-decade term is a massive financial loss.

Why is this never discussed by the Housing Crime Syndicate? The temple money changers are hiding in their bunkers on this.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2012-03-23 06:01:50

I can see the same sort of chicken-and-egg question looming for China as has been raised many times for the U.S.: Is a housing bust driving the recession, or is the recession driving the housing bust? It’s rather the conundrumish pecuniary externality…

Indicators Fall in China and Europe
[Photo by Timothy Fadek/Bloomberg News:
A ThyssenKrupp steel plant in Germany, where manufacturing is falling, according to a Markit Economics survey.]
By JACK EWING and BETTINA WASSENER
Published: March 22, 2012

FRANKFURT — A main indicator of business sentiment in Europe unexpectedly fell deeper toward recession territory Thursday, compounding concerns about the global recovery after signs of slowing manufacturing in China.

[Photo: An employee on the production line of a safety net factory in Hefei, China. Weak external and domestic demand continued to weigh on the manufacturing sector in March, a survey showed.]

The gloomy data provided a reminder that, despite the aura of calm in Europe after months of debt-crisis fever, the 17 European Union members that use the euro still have fundamental problems.

Major stock indexes in Europe fell broadly Thursday, and the euro slipped against the dollar, after a survey of purchasing managers suggested that growth in the euro zone declined in the first three months of the year. That would be the region’s second consecutive quarter of negative growth, which would meet the broad definition of a recession. Stocks were also down in the United States. Reinforcing the survey results, manufacturing orders in the euro zone fell 2.3 percent in January from December, according to a report Thursday by Eurostat, the European Union’s statistics office. That was a slightly bigger drop than expected.

The figures suggest that the euro zone is still struggling even after a flood of cash from the European Central Bank helped calm fears of a banking crisis and credit crunch.

“The easing of the sovereign debt crisis has apparently failed to bring about a lasting improvement in business sentiment,” Christoph Weil, an economist at Commerzbank, wrote in a note to clients. Reports next week should offer more clues about the direction of the European economy.

 
Comment by t3chiman
2012-03-23 08:04:30

...some famously rich private finance people come up for trial on charge of huge financial irregularity...

This seems to us a bit of cosmic justice, but things are not what they seem. Rich people in China are targets of extreme envy. Local government officials are not above bringing bogus charges against landowners, and imprisoning entire extended families, in order to simply take over their holdings. It’s one motivation for the rich folks to get out of Dodge, and pay any amount, just to live in a place where the rule of law is observed.

Comment by Ben Jones
2012-03-23 08:15:24

Please check out my weekend topic suggestion on China, the housing bubble and regime change.

http://thehousingbubbleblog.com/?p=7071#comment-2028918

 
Comment by Carl Morris
2012-03-23 18:47:10

It’s one motivation for the rich folks to get out of Dodge, and pay any amount, just to live in a place where the rule of law is observed.

Do they still think that’s here? I’ll admit we’ve got it better than them, but I’m not feeling 100% confident that things will stay that way.

 
 
Comment by erik
2012-03-23 08:36:47

To me it demonstrates people’s susceptibility to delusional thinking that anyone would want to “buy” a condo. I guess when you turn the key in the lock you feel security that it’s yours and nobody can kick you out, even though they sure can if you don’t keep paying just as if you were renting, except you pay less if you’re renting. $253K for a studio apt. of 600 sq. feet. I know someone who did that in Herndon, Va. Guess what? After 3 years, job changed and they had to move. So now there’s a tenant there living in a rent subsidized apt…..Subsidized by the owner who’s paying $800/month towards the portion of the mortgage and condo fees not covered by rent.

 
Comment by t3chiman
2012-03-23 21:42:17

…we’ve got it better than them…
In some ways, it’s better being rich in a poorer country–you can buy a better class of servants, for one thing. But “we” (which to a wealthy Chinese person is: the US, Canada, Western Europe, Australia, or New Zealand) have a long-established tradition of property rights and contract law. The idea is to protect the individual property owner from arbitrary and capricious taking of the property by anyone who happens to be richer or more powerful. Such a basic protection simply does not exist in China. Everything you own is up for grabs at all times. Of course, rich people are not stupid; they have their sponsors, their protectors. But they may know all too well how easy it is for the game to change, for a successful predator to become a victim.

It’s a very stressful existence. After a while, you can’t sleep at night. You lose what peace of mind your wealth has bought you. At that point, nice quiet neighborhoods in, say, Vancouver, look pretty good. Better than a Chinese prison cell by a long shot.

 
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