February 20, 2009

Countdown To LV - Day 0 - Topic Suggestions

OK folks, I could use some topic suggestions for this weekend. Here are some comments from the last countdown thread. “1. Regardless of the protests from Washington and Wall Street that ‘they never saw it coming’, many folks here did. It actually WAS as plain as the nose on your face when examined in comparison to historical data. Not only was it possible, it was inevitable. They knew it would fall apart, but maybe not how quickly it would implode. If we could see it coming, they could see it coming.”

“2. Also, the ‘best and brightest’ in Washington and Wall Street are the idiots who GOT us here and then couldn’t possibly see it coming- does anyone REALLY believe that these same idiots now know the way to get us out??”

“3. First the Bush administration and now Obama’s are trying to stop an erupting volcano by burying it with dump-trucks full of money. It won’t work and they are wasting scarce resources. You can’t cure a heroin addict by giving him another fix and you can’t cure our rampant debt problem by encouraging more people to borrow. We need to do something different, but the government is too frightened to admit, much less encourage it.”

“4. Obama, like all politicians, talks out of both sides of his face. He rails about the need for more affordable housing and then tries to impliment a plan to stop the decline in housing prices- WTF?”

Another posted, “The simple math, % interest, tax, insurance, cost of house, credit card debt, did not calculate out for my income and the house price. The loan officer said it would but the math just did not support it. Could I tell the peak? Yes, when the first loans started to reset. When will housing prices improve? When unemployment drops. Who will buy the empty houses? Investors who will turn them into rentals for the newly employed who will be reluctant to buy a home.”

One had this, “I’d first convey emapthy for what i imagine will be the horrid state of affairs they find themselves in. Then I’d tell them that money is a tool. Money is time. Money is food and shelter. Money is power. Money is an escape artist. Money is a viscious pit bull. Money is a sweet smelling rose. Money is a weapon. Money is freedom. Money is a ball and chain. Money is a joker. Money can lift you up or bury you.”

“Money is what gives strength to the people of all societies, no matter what political and/or economic system may be in use. Money is a lot of things, good, bad and indifferent.”

“Money directly impacts all parts of your life whether you have a little, a lot, or none. So, first learn about it. Then teach your children everything about it. Overcome what is sure to be powerful opposition and make economics studies a requirement in all schools, at all levels. Teach everyone where money comes from, where it goes, what it does and doesn’t do, what it can and can’t do, and how to use and control money.”

“Any society generally ignorant of and complacent about money puts itself at severe risk and will eventually find it to be their cruel, arbitrary and heavy-handed captor.”

One said, “Such immense kudos to the blog regulars, who saved my sanity, what little of it was left, when I found you in 2005 or so, and realized that there were smart articulate people who shared my belief–labeled fear and pathology by so many–that this whole housing bubble was truly the equivalent of a massive-scale ponzi scheme, based on no fundamental value or sound economic model fathomable by little ol’ me, anyway!”

“You guys were *brave* as well as smart enough to analyse the housing scene. As others have said, to see what was coming didn’t require genius or a crystal ball. Sure, to argue forcefully and lucidly some saavy was important– and so many of you surely have that. But to say it plain, say it often, say it with conviction, also required that the blinders of greed and fear be shaken off long enough to really see what was happening.”

“I hope you all have lots of fun in Vegas, now as ‘empty’ as Detroit?! omg, wow, what an appropriate place to speak about the bubble, about the gambling schemes that got us here…cheers all!”




An Opportunity To Be Glorified Renters

It’s Friday desk clearing time for this blogger. “Drive into the sprawling development of stucco starter homes in this Phoenix suburb by the San Tan Mountains and the first thing you notice are the ‘For Sale’ signs. The next thing is what many of them say: ‘Bank-Owned Home.’ Jinae Nielsen, 24, with her husband and two toddlers, she moved into a foreclosed four-bedroom home for $118,000. The family driven out had bought it for $259,000.”

“A larger home nearby sold for $111,000. ‘In order to get back what we want, we’re going to have to be here for a while,’ she says.”

“What seemed like a can’t-miss business model — building retirement homes for tens of millions of active older people with money — is in the same predicament as the rest of the nation’s housing market. Among the seniors who sold their departure homes before the housing crash is David Clukey, who with his wife, Ruth, and their two cats share a villa at Arbor Homes’ Crimson Oaks development near Lake Saint Louis. The Clukeys moved there in 2006. Of the eight homes, only two are completed. The builder has cut prices by $50,000 and is delaying closings in hopes buyers can sell their departure homes.”

“Clukey said his only regret is that he can’t take advantage of Crimson Oaks’ new low prices. ‘I wish I was just moving in because you could make a hell of a deal,’ he said.”

“Troublesome to other observers of the Obama plan is the lack of focus on solving the underwater mortgage problem by writing down boom-time loan amounts to bring them in line with current housing values. Fort Lauderdale-based real estate analyst Jack McCabe said the vast problem of underwater homeowners will not be solved simply by refinancing to lower interest rates. ‘If you have a $300,000 loan on a property that’s now worth $150,000, how are you going to refinance that?’ McCabe said.”

“‘If they don’t have the money, they’ll just wind up in foreclosure and turning in the keys anyway. So really this is just offering people in desperate positions of losing their homes an opportunity to be glorified renters,’ McCabe said.”

“In 2005, the typical seller netted $225,000 from the sale of a home there, said Leslie Appleton-Young, chief economist for the California Association of Realtors and keynote speaker at the 2009 Real Estate Market Forum Wednesday at The Coeur d’Alene Resort. That is now $100,000. ‘They are moving in with their parents or relatives,’ she told The Press.”

“Loose credit that is blamed for the current mortgage meltdown is a thing of the past, Appleton-Young said. ‘You have to be who you say you are,’ she said.”

“‘What a concept,’ said Bruce Jolicoeur, a principal in Auble, Jolicoeur & Gentry, which prepares real estate market reports from its offices in Spokane and Coeur d’Alene. ‘It’s amazing she had to say that.’”

“Marin’s home sales in January showed another steep price drop compared with one year ago and matched declines throughout the Bay Area, according to figures released Thursday. The median price of a single-family home in Marin in January was $750,000, down 24 percent from $990,000 last year.”

“Katie Beacock, president of the Marin Association of Realtors, said the current market’s silver lining ‘is for the first time in many years, Marin is creating a good, affordable first-time homebuyer market. Who knows when (the market) is going to level off,’ said Beacock. ‘I don’t think we’ve hit bottom, but I think we’re coasting at a relatively realistic pace.’”

“A third of owners will walk away when the value of their homes drops 20 percent or more below what they owe, even if they can afford the payments, a situation known as ‘rational default,’ said Norm Miller, director of real estate programs at the University of San Diego School of Business Administration.”

“‘The biggest reason modifications end up re-defaulting is because they are in markets where prices have continued to go down,’ Miller said in an interview. ‘When people are underwater and don’t see an end to it, a lot of them just walk away, even if they can make their payments, because they don’t want to be wiped out financially.’”

“‘We’re trying to make the financial decisions you made when you bought your house more affordable for you, not undo your bad real estate investments,’ said Evan Wagner, a spokesman for IndyMac Federal Bank in Pasadena, California. ‘When people say, ‘My home is underwater, therefore I can’t afford it,’ what they are saying is they have buyer’s remorse.’”

“James Muise of Billerica, Massachusetts, has seen his home’s value tumble $30,000 below his mortgage in the past 18 months. He got a modification last year that gave him a five-year reduction of interest on the 30-year mortgage he took out in 2007, cutting his monthly payment to $1,800 from $2,500. Still, he is on the edge of default, he said.”

“‘I’m working 15 hours of overtime each week and I’m barely able to make the payment on a $280,000 house that has a $310,000 mortgage,’the 50-year-old exterminator said. ‘When I sit here deciding whether I should pay the heating bill or pay the mortgage, I’m close to handing the keys back to the bank.’”

“Virginia Pratt, a foreclosure prevention counselor at Jamaica Plain-based ESAC, a community action agency, said that while West Roxbury/Roslindale doesn’t hold a candle to other Boston neighborhoods on foreclosure numbers, she’s noticed changes in recent months. ‘We still continue to see the bulk of people from Hyde Park, Mattapan and Dorchester,’ she said. ‘But recently we have been getting calls from [better-off suburbs] Needham and Dedham.’”

“But Les Rudman, of ERA Key Realty Services in Milford, who is currently marketing a home on Ainsworth Street in Roslindale, said his business is growing. The Ainsworth Street home has been shown to more people than others Rudman is listing in central Massachusetts and Rhode Island, he said. ”

“‘That’s because I think the Roslindale market has reached bottom and is starting to come back up,’ he said.”

“Richard Fulkerson retired last fall after 10 years as Colorado’s top banking regulator. There was just one bank failure, in 1998, during the tenure of the taciturn Wyoming native. Fulkerson spoke to the Rocky in January about the state of the industry.”

“On the root cause of today’s problems: ‘(Home loans) have always been considered the easiest loan to make, and the safest loan. But in an effort to put as many people as possible into a home to strengthen society, we stretched the credit process to the point where origination has detached from collection. Anyone can make a loan if they don’t care whether someone else has to collect. At the highest level of Wall Street, there was a lack of understanding of the risk of mortgage pools and how they’d react in a downturn.’”

“It’s the difference between someone doing the right thing because they know someone else will look at it in 12 to 18 months, versus someone saying, ‘How much can we get away with before it blows up and we walk away.’”

“Garden Grove and Westminster are the latest Southern California cities to consider using taxpayer dollars to ’solve’the so-called housing crisis. But there’s little chance that the dollars will do anything more than waste money, increase the power of local government fiefdoms and even slow the market correction that’s going on in real estate.”

“There is no real housing crisis. Market-based economies are constantly adapting to new realities, provided the government doesn’t interfere with market processes. Housing prices have tumbled in the past year, and when prices fall back to Earth, buyers snap up the bargains. Yet government at all levels seems committed to trying to artificially reinflate the housing bubble.”

“Given the budget insanity at the state level and the stimulus insanity at the federal level, it’s hard to be too harsh on cities for wanting to join in on the action. Still, the best antidote for craziness is sanity, not more craziness. Why don’t Garden Grove and Westminster tend to the basics of city government and let real estate buyers and sellers work out the foreclosure situation on their own?”