HBB Remedies For Getting The Nation Back On Its Feet
Readers suggested a topic on housing bubble solutions. “On this July 4 weekend - how do we declare economic independence from the housing and credit mess that some very unpatriotic business and gov’t leaders got us into? HBB remedies for getting the nation back on its feet.”
One posted, “We need a crash course in America to not only teach people to read write and speak English, (eliminate functional illiteracy) but also mandatory financial education courses to graduate high school AND college.”
“If we as Americans knew how to do 8th grade math and use a calculator, there would not have been a housing bubble…IMO.”
A reply, “The more educated the populace, the more unhappy that they will be with their inevitable fate. Do you really want a lot of disgruntled Ph.Ds working checkout or cleaning bathrooms? These are the jobs of the future in this country. Awareness will only breed discontent. Education will just exacerbate the bad feelings. Have a good 4th.”
Another, “I’m not so sure. Most people are greedy and lazy. I’d also suspect that the majority of people who participated in the bubble were frustrated lower-class people who really wanted that Hummer but didn’t want to work for it. No math will convince them that they don’t deserve what they think is the jet-set Hollywood lifestyle…”
And another, “They knew 8th grade math well enough to calculate all the riches they would sock away after they flipped the McStuccoBox in Queen Creek onto a Greater Fool…”
One suggested, “How about some stories where people are doing well with real estate where they showed some commonsense and aren’t drowning in debt?”
A reply, “A good portion of the folks who aren’t drowning in debt do not have the perspective that they are doing well.”
“For instance, my in-laws purchased their suburban Atlanta home 30+ years ago. It’s gone up in value (not much - it’s hasn’t kept pace with inflation) and they only pay small yearly property tax and insurance bills for housing. So, based on my perspective, they’re doing very well.”
“However, they do not view their fate the same way. They talk about all the value they have lost in their home since 2005 - something they view as real lost money.”
“They also focus on the appreciation other areas of Atlanta have experienced relative to theirs. Had they purchased the same value home in Midtown Atlanta back in the late 70s, their home would be worth triple what their current home is worth.”
“Their case is not unique. I hear from many long-time owners with loads of equity about all the money they have ‘lost’ since the crash. It seems to me that they only people who are happy with the crash is people who have been renting since 2005.”
One added, “My dad is the same way - huge house, bought cheaply in late 70s, paid off years agot, intends to put on the market this month. He is adamant about not taking less than $400,000 for it. The man could take $300,000 and it’d STILL be an enormous win-win for him, but he can’t see that.”
Another observed, “I know a guy at the gym with a long face he is always talking about the $100,000 dollars he has lost on his house just this last year. Has owned the the house for over 15 yrs!”
One had this, “We seem to be doing better than the people my husband works with. All of them do a lot of driving since they do onsite technical support. Some days my husband sits at home and does research or studies. Other days he drives 300 or 400 miles. He gets 35 miles per gallon. Most of his coworkers drive trucks or SUVs.”
“Also we owe very little on the house, mainly from necessary repairs such as a roof. They are either renting expensive places or bought in the last couple of years.”
The Mansfield News Journal. “Even folks in the Optimist Club are having a tough time toeing an upbeat line these days. They use words such as ‘terrified,’ ‘disgusted’ and ’scary’ to describe what one calls ‘this mess’ we Americans find ourselves in. Happy birthday, America? This year, we’re not so sure.”
“‘There are so many things you have to do to survive now,’ says Larue Lawson of Forest Park, Ill. ‘It used to be just clothes on your back, food on the table and a roof over your head. Now, it’s everything. I wish it was just simpler.’”
“Lawson, mind you, is all of 16 years old.”
“Some of the gloom and doom may simply reflect a society that demands more and expects to have it yesterday, but in many cases there’s nothing imaginary about the problems.”
“Stay-at-home-mom Heather Hammack grapples with tough decisions daily about how to spend her family’s dwindling income in the face of rising food costs.”
“‘We used to have more money than we knew what to do with. Now, I have to decide: Do I pay the electric this week? Do I pay for gas? Do I get groceries?’ says Hammack, 24, who lives with her boyfriend, a window installer, and their 5-year-old son in a rented home in rural Rowlesburg, W.Va. ‘You can’t get ahead. You can’t save money. You can’t buy a house. It just stinks.’”
“Allison Alvin condemns an ‘out of style’ values system, in which even kids have cell phones, credit card debt is out of control and families purchase four-bedroom homes they can’t afford instead of the two-bedroom ones they could.”
“‘I’m mad at us … all of my fellow Americans. Maybe a little hardship would be good for us,’ says Alvin, who at 36 has a job as a freight exporter in Cincinnati, a husband with a factory job, two healthy children, her own home and four cars, all paid off.”
“At the same time, she acknowledges feeling that ‘things are getting worse.’ ‘When you’re my age, you feel like you should be improving - more financially stable, instead of hand-to-mouth. It doesn’t matter that we’re better off than (others). It still hurts. It’s still painful.’”
“At 82, Ruth Townsend has experienced her share of downturns - in her own life and that of the country. She suffered a stroke years ago that left her in a wheelchair, and lives now in an assisted-living facility in Orlando, Fla. Townsend recalls World War II and having to ration almost everything: sugar, leather shoes, tires, gas.”
“‘You made do with the little you had because you had to. You shopped in the same stores over and over because you HAD to. We had coupon books and stamps to figure out what we could have,’ Townsend says. Americans have gotten so used to ‘things,’ she says, ‘that we can’t take it when we hit a bad patch.’”
The Press Enterprise. “Beverlee Williams had what she thought was a carefully crafted plan for retirement. But she saw that shatter with the Inland housing market.”
“Upon retiring in 2001, Williams, 63 and a former city planner, paid off the mortgage on the modest single-story house she has owned in Riverside more than half her life and got it ready to sell to supplement her small pension and Social Security.”
“But the house fell out of escrow a year ago, and she said she waited too long to put it back on the market. Her house had lost about $125,000 in value.”
“Williams said the loss of equity means she probably will have to abandon plans to lower her living costs by moving to Arizona and buying an annuity to help offset the rising prices of gas, food and utilities.”
“‘We are looking at a generation approaching retirement that has taken a very hard hit. They counted on the equity in their homes and it is not going to be there,’ said Dean Baker, co-director at the Center for Economic Policy and Research, a nonpartisan think tank in Washington, D.C.”
“Chuck Cox, 65, said since he retired from the construction industry in 2006, he has seen about $175,000 of equity vanish from the four-bedroom house that he and his wife Cindy, a retired school principal on disability, own in the Del Rosa area of San Bernardino.”
“Cox said the house was appraised at $400,000 in January 2007, when he refinanced it to pay off all their other debt, including a car and credit cards, in preparation for retirement. He also remodeled, updating the kitchen and installing a new furnace and air conditioner to appeal to prospective buyers.”
“In retrospect, Cox wishes he had not refinanced. He said he has learned that the ultra-low interest rate he has been paying on his new mortgage is just a fraction of the actual interest he is being charged, and which has increased the debt on his home from $182,000 to $200,000 while the home’s value has shrunk to about $225,000.”
“In the summer of 2007, the couple traveled to Arizona and Montana to shop for a less-expensive house they wanted to buy after selling the one in San Bernardino. But by the time they returned to Southern California, Cox said, ‘home prices were starting to fall and falling fast.’ Before their house could be sold, he said, there was no chance they could make enough profit to move.”
“So, the couple sought a reverse mortgage that would eliminate their need to make a monthly house payment and make it easier for them to cope on their Social Security and savings. But they were short $50,000 in equity they needed to qualify for the mortgage.”
“Cox said although he suffers from chronic leukemia that makes him fatigued, he needs to put off retirement and find work.”
“Some people like Larry Gage with large real estate investments have decided to wait for some improvement.”
“Gage, 65, a real estate agent, said two years ago he was easing into retirement because he thought he no longer needed to work. He had bought about 22 homes, most in southwestern Riverside County.”
“Gage’s plan was to put in renters and sell a house occasionally to finance his retirement, because he expected the property would appreciate. He said that now the houses would sell for less than he paid and he doesn’t plan to retire for another four to five years, in which time he hopes for the housing market to begin to rebound.”